Restructuring of the Kenya Defence Forces

[Freddie998]

Chooze a struggle, Sell charcoal in Somalia or Fight alshabaab.
I donno what UG airforce has to do with this thread, they can crash all their jets and copters as they wish.
KDF is poorly trained in all aspects, They have no training in dealing with insurgency, they dont have a simple duty roaster to keep watch at night in their camps, no equipment to detect and neutralize IDE's.

Physical fitness is a challege,Just look at the General Karangi and his Successor Mwathethe..that is the SI unit for fitness,lazy fat fellows.

What about your army? Is it well trained? Kupigwa mapanga na yet sana bunduki

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

What about your army? Is it well trained? Kupigwa mapanga na yet sana bunduki

Raids and ambushes occur from time to time, but you cannot compare the ambushes KDF have suffered at the hands of Al shabaab. Its so embarassing that at one time they were sodomized for 24 hrs nonestop. What a shame

 

[Kafrican]

KDF is very weak Force comprises of conmen and relathieves, nowhere KDF won a single war in the past, we all know what happened in South Suda where KDF failed terribly to protect civilians, report of UN indicated that KDF was very weak to be part of UN mission in South Sudan, Ban Ki Mon had no option except to fire Kenyan Commender, this was followed by Uhuru to call home his useless Solders.

The Kenya General had only been there for 3 weeks when that attack happened, The UN was just looking for a scape goat to cover up there own failures for giving the peacekeepers impractical rules of engagement . Infact what the Kenya general did prevented a far worse situation from happening. If they had engaged Govt rebels, then the UN peacekeepers would have been fighting with the South Sudan govt! What do you think would have happened next day????? The UN mission would have been over. Not to forget civilian casualties kiled in the crossfire.

Ofcoarse the UN was under pressure by USA because US aid worker had been raped, USA is the biggest funder of all UN missions, the UN had to be seen to be "doing something about it"...

But the UN did not anticipate Kenya's reaction and the chain reaction it caused, After Kenya started pulling out, The Chinese told the UN if Kenya pulls out, we are also pulling out......

And thats why the UN apologised to Kenya, and aked her notto pull out, and as a sign of good faith, Kenya was given command of the Dafur peacekeeping mission in Sudan and also promised the command of S.Sudan once the term of the current commander ends!!!!


Kenya makes peace with UN, returns troops in Sudan

Guterres said he wanted to see UN reconciled with Kenya, for Kenya was a very important player in the region
''Let us make a fresh start. I feel that we have to work together to secure peace and security. Let us put the past behind us,'' he said.

He noted UN had full confidence in Kenya’s military.

"As a sign of our confidence in the Kenya Defence Forces, and in the Kenyan government, the UN would like to offer Kenya the Darfur command,'' Guterres added during the Opening of the 28th Ordinary Session of the Assembly of Heads of State and government of the African Union, in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

Kenyatta agreed to a reset in the relations, and would look forward to senior officials from both sides meeting in Addis Ababa to work out details of the new arrangements

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TPDF imekua Dafur kwa miaka mingi, ni siku gani mmepewa Command ya vikosi vyote huko Dafur???

 

[Kafrican]

Chooze a struggle, Sell charcoal in Somalia or Fight alshabaab.
I donno what UG airforce has to do with this thread, they can crash all their jets and copters as they wish.
KDF is poorly trained in all aspects, They have no training in dealing with insurgency, they dont have a simple duty roaster to keep watch at night in their camps, no equipment to detect and neutralize IDE's.

Physical fitness is a challege,Just look at the General Karangi and his Successor Mwathethe..that is the SI unit for fitness,lazy fat fellows.

See how you clearly have no insight, just bubbling theories, You think TPDF soldiers even know what an IED is let alone how to defuse one, hao bado wamezoea mines za WW2...


Do you know How many IEDs KDF defuse everyday while on patrol??? Everyday you dont hear anything on the frontline just know multiple ieds have been neutralised...

Here is one bieng neutralised

Another one

That landrover with mulidirection antenas is aradio signal jammer thats why alshabaab stopped using remotely triggered IEDs in Somaliaon KDf convoyes because it never worked

Here is a more recent one, A kdf vehicle stepped on the first ied while on routine patrol, when counter EOD engineers were called, they found two pther IEDs on the same road...As you can see, They have changed tact and are now using plastic IEDs that are undetectable by machines, only sniffer dogs can detect these

Watch this video and See KDf EoD search and destroy for IEDs and unexploded ordinance



You can also watch this video, especially at 2:57m where they devide each other into units of Sentries and take overwatch for two hours




So the question would be, Whyis it that KDF soldiers still get bown off by IEDS if they have all that? Before I answer that, I would just like to point out that over 3,000 Americans died in Afghanistan, 80-90% was NOT through gunshot wounds but through IEDs.... They have satelites, Drones with ground penetrating radar, and all kinds of equipments that KDf can only dream of, but still, Over 2,000 were killed by the hands of IEDs.... because those things are damn evective tool, especially onconvoyes on routine patrol, If you spend you time looking for IEDSon a dirt road, you will spend six hours covering 1 km, when you are supposed to patrol 80km in 8 hours on light skinned vehicle that have high mobility.....

 

[YoungD]

tanzagiza ni majanga tupu, unakumbuka hii story??

 

[joto la jiwe]

The Kenya General had only been there for 3 weeks when that attack happened, The UN was just looking for a scape goat to cover up there own failures for giving the peacekeepers impractical rules of engagement . Infact what the Kenya general did prevented a far worse situation from happening. If they had engaged Govt rebels, then the UN peacekeepers would have been fighting with the South Sudan govt! What do you think would have happened next day????? The UN mission would have been over. Not to forget civilian casualties kiled in the crossfire.

Ofcoarse the UN was under pressure by USA because US aid worker had been raped, USA is the biggest funder of all UN missions, the UN had to be seen to be "doing something about it"...

But the UN did not anticipate Kenya's reaction and the chain reaction it caused, After Kenya started pulling out, The Chinese told the UN if Kenya pulls out, we are also pulling out......

And thats why the UN apologised to Kenya, and aked her notto pull out, and as a sign of good faith, Kenya was given command of the Dafur peacekeeping mission in Sudan and also promised the command of S.Sudan once the term of the current commander ends!!!!


Kenya makes peace with UN, returns troops in Sudan

Guterres said he wanted to see UN reconciled with Kenya, for Kenya was a very important player in the region
''Let us make a fresh start. I feel that we have to work together to secure peace and security. Let us put the past behind us,'' he said.

He noted UN had full confidence in Kenya’s military.

"As a sign of our confidence in the Kenya Defence Forces, and in the Kenyan government, the UN would like to offer Kenya the Darfur command,'' Guterres added during the Opening of the 28th Ordinary Session of the Assembly of Heads of State and government of the African Union, in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

Kenyatta agreed to a reset in the relations, and would look forward to senior officials from both sides meeting in Addis Ababa to work out details of the new arrangements

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TPDF imekua Dafur kwa miaka mingi, ni siku gani mmepewa Command ya vikosi vyote huko Dafur???

Sasa ninyi ni watu gani msiokosa visingizio? Mbona hayo mambo hayatokei kwa vikosi vingine vilivyochini ya UN ni Kenya pekee?. Acheni sababu mingi, mkishindwa South Sudan mnasema sababu za kushindwa, mkishindwa Somalia mnatoa sababu za kushindwa, tunaomba mshinde vita hata moja basi ili angalau mtoe sababu za kushinda,, mtaendelea kushindwa na kutafuta sababu hadi mini?

Wewe ni mtu wa ajabu sana, eti unasema Kenya Commander alikua ana miezi mitatu kwa hiyo hajajipanga, hivi ukifika vitani adui anakupa muda wa kujipanga?, Hii sababu pia mliitaja pale kambi ya KDF ilipotekwa na wanajeshi 500 walipouliwa na Alshabab, mlisema hicho kikosi kilikua kimefika hapo ndani ya wiki mbili. Kwa ukweli KDF ni very weak army, endeleeni kutafuta sababu za kulinda useless KDF wakati wanaendelea kuuliwa left and right.

 

[Freddie998]

See how you clearly have no insight, just bubbling theories, You think TPDF soldiers even know what an IED is let alone how to defuse one, hao bado wamezoea mines za WW2...


Do you know How many IEDs KDF defuse everyday while on patrol??? Everyday you dont hear anything on the frontline just know multiple ieds have been neutralised...

Here is one bieng neutralised

Another one

That landrover with mulidirection antenas is aradio signal jammer thats why alshabaab stopped using remotely triggered IEDs in Somaliaon KDf convoyes because it never worked

Here is a more recent one, A kdf vehicle stepped on the first ied while on routine patrol, when counter EOD engineers were called, they found two pther IEDs on the same road...As you can see, They have changed tact and are now using plastic IEDs that are undetectable by machines, only sniffer dogs can detect these

Watch this video and See KDf EoD search and destroy for IEDs and unexploded ordinance



You can also watch this video, especially at 2:57m where they devide each other into units of Sentries and take overwatch for two hours




So the question would be, Whyis it that KDF soldiers still get bown off by IEDS if they have all that? Before I answer that, I would just like to point out that over 3,000 Americans died in Afghanistan, 80-90% was NOT through gunshot wounds but through IEDs.... They have satelites, Drones with ground penetrating radar, and all kinds of equipments that KDf can only dream of, but still, Over 2,000 were killed by the hands of IEDs.... because those things are damn evective tool, especially onconvoyes on routine patrol, If you spend you time looking for IEDSon a dirt road, you will spend six hours covering 1 km, when you are supposed to patrol 80km in 8 hours on light skinned vehicle that have high mobility.....

Man I like this🤔👊👊

 

[vulcan]

See how you clearly have no insight, just bubbling theories, You think TPDF soldiers even know what an IED is let alone how to defuse one, hao bado wamezoea mines za WW2...


Do you know How many IEDs KDF defuse everyday while on patrol??? Everyday you dont hear anything on the frontline just know multiple ieds have been neutralised...

Here is one bieng neutralised

Another one

That landrover with mulidirection antenas is aradio signal jammer thats why alshabaab stopped using remotely triggered IEDs in Somaliaon KDf convoyes because it never worked

Here is a more recent one, A kdf vehicle stepped on the first ied while on routine patrol, when counter EOD engineers were called, they found two pther IEDs on the same road...As you can see, They have changed tact and are now using plastic IEDs that are undetectable by machines, only sniffer dogs can detect these

Watch this video and See KDf EoD search and destroy for IEDs and unexploded ordinance



You can also watch this video, especially at 2:57m where they devide each other into units of Sentries and take overwatch for two hours




So the question would be, Whyis it that KDF soldiers still get bown off by IEDS if they have all that? Before I answer that, I would just like to point out that over 3,000 Americans died in Afghanistan, 80-90% was NOT through gunshot wounds but through IEDs.... They have satelites, Drones with ground penetrating radar, and all kinds of equipments that KDf can only dream of, but still, Over 2,000 were killed by the hands of IEDs.... because those things are damn evective tool, especially onconvoyes on routine patrol, If you spend you time looking for IEDSon a dirt road, you will spend six hours covering 1 km, when you are supposed to patrol 80km in 8 hours on light skinned vehicle that have high mobility.....

GREAT ANALYSIS BRO. These danganyikas will never understand what an assymetrical war is all about. To them they all know about an army facing a clearly defined enemy at a defined place and shooting him until surrender. If that was the case in Somalia we would be out of the place now.

Those are the engagements they have been engaged in, the biggest war they have ever won , the TZ-UG war against Iddi Amin, when the economy of UG was on on the floor and Amin had lost the peoples support and they just wanted him out.

They will come here shouting how they would have eliminated Al-shabab by now and how we are losing.
You will not hear a citizen of the countries who have soldiers in Somalia saying such crap, because they know how the situation is. Then Danganyikas are all over shouting about DRC, rebels in DRC are childs play, they are just fighting over resources, not religious ideologies.

The day TPDF enters Somalia, come we have a real conversation about fighting terror.

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

See how you clearly have no insight, just bubbling theories, You think TPDF soldiers even know what an IED is let alone how to defuse one, hao bado wamezoea mines za WW2...


Do you know How many IEDs KDF defuse everyday while on patrol??? Everyday you dont hear anything on the frontline just know multiple ieds have been neutralised...

Here is one bieng neutralised

Another one

That landrover with mulidirection antenas is aradio signal jammer thats why alshabaab stopped using remotely triggered IEDs in Somaliaon KDf convoyes because it never worked

Here is a more recent one, A kdf vehicle stepped on the first ied while on routine patrol, when counter EOD engineers were called, they found two pther IEDs on the same road...As you can see, They have changed tact and are now using plastic IEDs that are undetectable by machines, only sniffer dogs can detect these

Watch this video and See KDf EoD search and destroy for IEDs and unexploded ordinance



You can also watch this video, especially at 2:57m where they devide each other into units of Sentries and take overwatch for two hours




So the question would be, Whyis it that KDF soldiers still get bown off by IEDS if they have all that? Before I answer that, I would just like to point out that over 3,000 Americans died in Afghanistan, 80-90% was NOT through gunshot wounds but through IEDs.... They have satelites, Drones with ground penetrating radar, and all kinds of equipments that KDf can only dream of, but still, Over 2,000 were killed by the hands of IEDs.... because those things are damn evective tool, especially onconvoyes on routine patrol, If you spend you time looking for IEDSon a dirt road, you will spend six hours covering 1 km, when you are supposed to patrol 80km in 8 hours on light skinned vehicle that have high mobility.....

This is pretty useless information. IEDs are simple explosives that cannot penetrate an armoured vehicle..The americans in afghanistan faced land mines with the kill power of a tank mortars and ofcourse clandestine support by russian bombs and RPGs. The question is why are KDF buying unarmoured vehicles or poor quality vehicles that cannot stand even a mosquito bite while spending millions of dollars?

Audit Report: Kenya’s Military bought 32 faulty vehicles

If KDF thinks that spending their time finding homemade bombs that a simple armoured patrol vehicle can drive over then they are chasing a wild goose.

It still bothers me that KDF dont have night watch in their camps! I mean they eat and drink themselves silly then they all fall asleep like babies and leave no soldier to guard the camp. This is the highest form of incompetence. They think war is a picnic, and these night/ dawn raids have cost them the highest number of soldiers more than IEDs

With this kind of incompetence, lack of dicipline and corrupt procurement of bogus vehicles and artillery, even a small battalion of UPDF or TPDF can simply slaughter the whole KDF

 

[much know]

In light of the Ministry of Defence 2019 White Paper, the Kenya Defence Forces are to be restructured in order to better carry out their mandate to protect the Republic of Kenya, her people, her territories, and her interests, both at home and abroad.

A focus will be placed on the KDF being a highly mobile, technologically advanced, and well-trained force, capable of operating in multiple roles with a high degree of efficiency and professionalism. This restructuring will not be quick, but it is hoped that by 2030, the Kenya Defence Forces will be fully restructured and extremely capable.

This is our vision for Kenya.

Kenya Army
As the senior and largest branch of the KDF, the Kenya Army is responsible for the defence of the Republic on land, both at home and abroad. It is currently deployed in operations in both Somalia and in the Republic's northern counties, acting in a counterinsurgency capacity. Recent terror attacks in the Republic, and the Army's slow responses to them, have made it clear that the Kenya Army is in dire need of modernization and refitting in order to continue its mandate.

As such, drawing inspiration from the Australian and British armies, the Kenya Army shall be restructured in accordance with the following Order of Battle...

Kenya Army ORBAT
First Kenyan Division (EASTCOM)

HQ: Embakasi, Nairobi

1st Kenya Brigade Group

HQ: Nyali Beach, Mombasa

• 15th Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Mariakani Barracks, Mombasa)
• 17th Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Nyali Beach, Mombasa)
• 40th (Ranger Strike Force) Battalion, the Special Operations Regiment (Nyali Beach, Mombasa)
• 77th Artillery Battalion (Mariakani Barracks, Mombasa)

2nd Kenya Brigade Group

HQ: Embakasi, Nairobi

• 7th Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Langata Barracks, Nairobi)
• 22nd Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Embakasi, Nairobi)
• 12th Engineers Battalion (Thika, Nairobi)
• 50th (Air Cavalry) Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Embakasi, Nairobi)
• 75th Artillery (Air Defence) Battalion (Embakasi, Nairobi)
• 78th Armoured Battalion (Isiolo)

20th Kenya Brigade (Reserve)

HQ: Nyali Beach, Mombasa

• 1st Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Nyali)
• 2nd Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Malindi)
• 3rd Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Lamu)
• 4th Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Marsabit)

21st Kenya Brigade (Reserve)

HQ: Embakasi, Nairobi

• 5th Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Embakasi)
• 6th Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Voi)
• 7th Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Machakos)
• 8th Battalion, the Askari Rifles (Dadaab)

Second Kenyan Division (WESTCOM)

HQ: Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil

3rd Kenya Brigade Group

HQ: Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil

• 5th Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Gilgil Barracks, Gilgil)
• 20th (Parachute) Battalion (Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil)
• 66th Artillery Battalion (Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil)
• 76th Armoured Reconnaissance Battalion (Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil)
• 1st Mortar Battalion (Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil)

4th Kenya Brigade Group

HQ: Moi Barracks, Eldoret

• 1st Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Nanyuki)
• 3rd Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Lanet Barracks, Nakuru)
• 9th Battalion, the Kenya Rifles (Moi Barracks, Eldoret)
• 10th Engineers Battalion (Nanyuki)
• 81st Armoured Battalion (Lanet Barracks, Nakuru)
• 30th (Special Forces) Battalion, the Special Operations Regiment (Jamhiri Barracks, Nakuru)

22nd Kenya Brigade (Reserve)

HQ: Kenyatta Barracks, Gilgil

• 1st Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Gilgil)
• 2nd Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Kericho)
• 3rd Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Kisumu)

23rd Kenya Brigade (Reserve)

HQ: Moi Barracks, Eldoret

• 4th Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Eldoret)
• 5th Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Nakuru)
• 6th Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Nyahururu)
• 7th Battalion, the Rift Valley Rifles (Lodwar)

Kenya Army Primary Reserves
The Kenya Army will be drawing upon a reserve force consisting of 15 battalions in 4 brigades, with reservists supplementing standing regular force soldiers in support, administrative, logistics, and combat roles. Reservist deployments will be for the most part voluntary, and almost always within the Republic's territorial limits. These part-time citizen-soldiers will be trained to the same exacting standard of their regular force comrades, although will not constitute a standing force for much of the year. Reservist units will parade and train approximately four times a month, with a three-week period set aside each year during the winter months for intense training.

Kenya Air Force
The Kenya Air Force is in dire need of expansion and modernization in order to continue to fulfil its mandate to defend the Republic and her people in the skies. A meagre 47 F-5E fighter aircraft and a handful of small transports is simply inadequate for the 21st Century. As such, over the 2020-2030 timespan the Kenya Air Force will be pursuing the following goals...

Modernization

• 2-3 squadrons of light fighter aircraft
• 1-2 squadrons of 4th-generation multirole fighter aircraft
• 2 squadrons of medium transport aircraft
• 1 squadron of heavy transport aircraft
• 3 squadrons of medium lift helicopters
• 1 squadron of heavy transport helicopters
• 1 squadron of armed Unmanned Aerial Vehicles
• 1 squadron of unarmed Unmanned Aerial Reconnaissance Vehicles
• 1 squadron of trainer aircraft
• 1 squadron of light utility aircraft

Expansion of Infrastructure

• Establishment of an airbase in Lodwar (Modernization and expansion of Lodwar Airport)
• Modernization of facilities at KAF Wajir
• Expansion of KAF Nanyuki
• Expansion of KAF Mombasa
• Expansion and modernization of KAF Nyeri
• Expansion and modernization of KAF Mandera

Assuming Control of Force Protection
HQ: KAF Eastleigh

• 1st Squadron, the KAF Regiment (KAF Eastleigh)
• 2nd Squadron, the KAF Regiment (KAF Nanyuki)
• 3rd Squadron, the KAF Regiment (KAF Mombasa)
• 4th Squadron, the KAF Regiment (KAF Nyeri)
• 5th (Armoured) Squadron, the KAF Regiment (KAF Mandera)

The Kenya Navy
The Kenya Navy is responsible for the defence of the Republic's shores and waters. While certainly capable, its fleet of two offshore patrol vessels and handful of missile boats would be much more effective if augmented with modern vessels and systems.

Modernization

• Acquisition of at least 3 additional OPVs
• Acquisition of at least 4 additional missile boats
• Acquisition of at least 3 additional patrol boats
• Acquisition of at least 2 additional landing craft

Assuming Control of Shipboard and Shore Security
HQ: KNS Mtongwe (Mtongwe Naval Base, Mombasa)

• 1st Battalion, the Kenya Marines (KNS Mtongwe)
• 2nd Battalion, the Kenya Marines (KNS Malindi)

Afadhali mmeona mapungufu haiwezekani wakenya wanapigwa na Al shabab pale Westgate wanajeshi wanaiba biskuti na kunyang'anyana maziwa.

 

[Sherlock]

This is pretty useless information. IEDs are simple explosives that cannot penetrate an armoured vehicle..The americans in afghanistan faced land mines with the kill power of a tank mortars and ofcourse clandestine support by russian bombs and RPGs. The question is why are KDF buying unarmoured vehicles or poor quality vehicles that cannot stand even a mosquito bite while spending millions of dollars?

Audit Report: Kenya’s Military bought 32 faulty vehicles

If KDF thinks that spending their time finding homemade bombs that a simple armoured patrol vehicle can drive over then they are chasing a wild goose.

It still bothers me that KDF dont have night watch in their camps! I mean they eat and drink themselves silly then they all fall asleep like babies and leave no soldier to guard the camp. This is the highest form of incompetence. They think war is a picnic, and these night/ dawn raids have cost them the highest number of soldiers more than IEDs

With this kind of incompetence, lack of dicipline and corrupt procurement of bogus vehicles and artillery, even a small battalion of UPDF or TPDF can simply slaughter the whole KDF

what is the significant difference btwn IEDS and Landmines?
Who told you that all armoured vehicles can withstand IEDS?
Know the difference between APCs and MRAPs.The government bought APCs.

 

[Sherlock]

Chinese are just

I repeat you are more than stupid, in military technology China is just behind USA and Russia, by 2030 China is expected to top the world. You stupid, all those European fighter jets you have mentioned are made joint venture by more than two European countries, but you still support and call them advanced fighter jets, but when China uses some parts from Russia you oppose that idea.

Even USA uses some parts from other countries, there is no single country which can make whole jets without borrowing and uses some parts from other country.

China is on its way to lead this world in technology for one reason, technology means you produce at affordable price. Trump is afraid of China because no body is interested to buy made in USA or Europe because, the same item can be produced by China at cheaper price.

I repeat you know nothing about this world, 45% percent of high tech equipments in the world now are Chinese technology. Turkey, India and other allies of USA are turning their face towards Russia and China for more advances military arsenal, China is leading USA in Submarine technology, stupid nyang'au, you respect Wazungu more than Mungu.

Chinese are just copycats the are facing many court cases on intellectual property theft.

 

[Hamster255]

This is pretty useless information. IEDs are simple explosives that cannot penetrate an armoured vehicle..The americans in afghanistan faced land mines with the kill power of a tank mortars and ofcourse clandestine support by russian bombs and RPGs. The question is why are KDF buying unarmoured vehicles or poor quality vehicles that cannot stand even a mosquito bite while spending millions of dollars?

Audit Report: Kenya’s Military bought 32 faulty vehicles

If KDF thinks that spending their time finding homemade bombs that a simple armoured patrol vehicle can drive over then they are chasing a wild goose.

It still bothers me that KDF dont have night watch in their camps! I mean they eat and drink themselves silly then they all fall asleep like babies and leave no soldier to guard the camp. This is the highest form of incompetence. They think war is a picnic, and these night/ dawn raids have cost them the highest number of soldiers more than IEDs

With this kind of incompetence, lack of dicipline and corrupt procurement of bogus vehicles and artillery, even a small battalion of UPDF or TPDF can simply slaughter the whole KDF

Now its Dr Gen. Kiherehere hahahahahahahahaha this idiot needs the 2018-2019 Kiherehere award...

 

[Hamster255]

Meanwhile TPDF working on the "SGR"

 

[Kafrican]

This is pretty useless information. IEDs are simple explosives that cannot penetrate an armoured vehicle..The americans in afghanistan faced land mines with the kill power of a tank mortars and ofcourse clandestine support by russian bombs and RPGs. The question is why are KDF buying unarmoured vehicles or poor quality vehicles that cannot stand even a mosquito bite while spending millions of dollars?

Audit Report: Kenya’s Military bought 32 faulty vehicles

If KDF thinks that spending their time finding homemade bombs that a simple armoured patrol vehicle can drive over then they are chasing a wild goose.

It still bothers me that KDF dont have night watch in their camps! I mean they eat and drink themselves silly then they all fall asleep like babies and leave no soldier to guard the camp. This is the highest form of incompetence. They think war is a picnic, and these night/ dawn raids have cost them the highest number of soldiers more than IEDs

With this kind of incompetence, lack of dicipline and corrupt procurement of bogus vehicles and artillery, even a small battalion of UPDF or TPDF can simply slaughter the whole KDF

UPDF is in Somalia, TPDF doesnt have MRAPS or Level 3 APCs... the ones they have are ot even more than 50. hata wacha MRAPS, show me pictures of a contiget of regular TPDF in bullet proof vests, I don't think I have ever seen one.

There is no army in the world that has fought a war in fully amoured vehicles, not especially war on terror, you need vehicles with high mobility, easy to exit and enter the car at moments notice, even the US used up-amoured humvees in M.east that have level 2 protection against projectiles and RPG...




# The difference between a land mine and an IED one is professionally done and the other is home made, modifyied to fit the users intended purpose........ The IEDs made by alsabaab are copies of IEDS made in Middle-east from alqaida, isis and the rest... Alshabaab uses experts from M.east...

to know which one is powerful between a mine and IED depend of the explosive used. if you wanna know if IED made by alshabaab is powerful just look at the blast radius at the core

Keep in mind that these ieds are ment to concentrate their blast, upwards, that hole is made from the weak side of the explosion....

Humvees have been used in plenty in M.east

Also as of late October 2004, nearly 5,100 up-armored Humvees were reported by the Department of Defense to have been delivered to Army and Marine Corps units in Iraq, with another 724 on ships bound for the theater. As of late October 2004, US Central Command's requirement for up-armored Humvees called for 8,105 up-armored Humvees in Iraq. Prior to the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom, the Army had only about 500 up-armored Humvees, called "UAHs," in its inventory. Up-Armored HMMWV

Here is one blown up by and IED

French made Panhard AML which is used by almost every country in Africa as a reconaisance amoured vehicle

Completely destroyed

Here is yet another vedio showing KDF night watch





There is a small documentary series shot by american soldiers themselves fighting in Afghanistan... I suggest you watch it and see for yourself how it's like fighting terrorism

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

UPDF is in Somalia, TPDF doesnt have MRAPS or Level 3 APCs... the ones they have are ot even more than 50. hata wacha MRAPS, show me pictures of a contiget of regular TPDF in bullet proof vests, I don't think I have ever seen one.

There is no army in the world that has fought a war in fully amoured vehicles, not especially war on terror, you need vehicles with high mobility, easy to exit and enter the car at moments notice, even the US used up-amoured humvees in M.east that have level 2 protection against projectiles and RPG...




# The difference between a land mine and an IED one is professionally done and the other is home made, modifyied to fit the users intended purpose........ The IEDs made by alsabaab are copies of IEDS made in Middle-east from alqaida, isis and the rest... Alshabaab uses experts from M.east...

to know which one is powerful between a mine and IED depend of the explosive used. if you wanna know if IED made by alshabaab is powerful just look at the blast radius at the core

Keep in mind that these ieds are ment to concentrate their blast, upwards, that hole is made from the weak side of the explosion....

Humvees have been used in plenty in M.east


Here is one blown up by and IED

French made Panhard AML which is used by almost every country in Africa as a reconaisance amoured vehicle

Completely destroyed

Here is yet another vedio showing KDF night watch





There is a small documentary series shot by american soldiers themselves fighting in Afghanistan... I suggest you watch it and see for yourself how it's like fighting terrorism

Nothing of importance there, Nothing can explain all the numerous lapses in night watch resulting to deadly camp raids.
Nothing but incompetence and corruption can explain purchase of mabati APC's and regular civillian type landrovers in a war.
You can make all the excuses but the fact remains. Kenya cannot sustain war with a Proffesional army let alone rag tag militias

 

[joto la jiwe]

UPDF is in Somalia, TPDF doesnt have MRAPS or Level 3 APCs... the ones they have are ot even more than 50. hata wacha MRAPS, show me pictures of a contiget of regular TPDF in bullet proof vests, I don't think I have ever seen one.

There is no army in the world that has fought a war in fully amoured vehicles, not especially war on terror, you need vehicles with high mobility, easy to exit and enter the car at moments notice, even the US used up-amoured humvees in M.east that have level 2 protection against projectiles and RPG...




# The difference between a land mine and an IED one is professionally done and the other is home made, modifyied to fit the users intended purpose........ The IEDs made by alsabaab are copies of IEDS made in Middle-east from alqaida, isis and the rest... Alshabaab uses experts from M.east...

to know which one is powerful between a mine and IED depend of the explosive used. if you wanna know if IED made by alshabaab is powerful just look at the blast radius at the core

Keep in mind that these ieds are ment to concentrate their blast, upwards, that hole is made from the weak side of the explosion....

Humvees have been used in plenty in M.east


Here is one blown up by and IED

French made Panhard AML which is used by almost every country in Africa as a reconaisance amoured vehicle

Completely destroyed

Here is yet another vedio showing KDF night watch





There is a small documentary series shot by american soldiers themselves fighting in Afghanistan... I suggest you watch it and see for yourself how it's like fighting terrorism

Stop complaining too much, before you go for war, you must know well your enemy as part of military intelligence so that you can prepare accordingly, it is stupid to go without good knowledge of your enemy, remember "Failure to prepare yourself, is the preparation for failure".

In South Sudan also KDF failed terribly and you came up with tones of excuses, there is no room for excuses when is war, you must win war by all means, TPDF always wins wars, KDF must copy from TPDF ways of fighting wars, otherwise will continue losing wars forever.

 

[Sherlock]

Nothing of importance there, Nothing can explain all the numerous lapses in night watch resulting to deadly camp raids.
Nothing but incompetence and corruption can explain purchase of mabati APC's and regular civillian type landrovers in a war.
You can make all the excuses but the fact remains. Kenya cannot sustain war with a Proffesional army let alone rag tag militias

How many camp raids have succeeded? you are talking as if they are thousands
Only once has kdf lost a camp to alshabaab

 

[Sherlock]

Stop complaining too much, before you go for war, you must know well your enemy as part of military intelligence so that you can prepare accordingly, it is stupid to go without good knowledge of your enemy, remember "Failure to prepare yourself, is the preparation for failure".

In South Sudan also KDF failed terribly and you came up with tones of excuses, there is no room for excuses when is war, you must win war by all means, TPDF always wins wars, KDF must copy from TPDF ways of fighting wars, otherwise will continue losing wars forever.

TPDF have never fought a war against a local insurgency let alone terrorists. We have nothing we can learn from you . you only fought a uniformed force who you can easily map out their positions and fire rockets or artillery demolarising them hence advancing .whereas terrorists blend in with the local populace.We only train and learn from the best

 

[stormryder]

TPDF have never fought a war against a local insurgency let alone terrorists. We have nothing we can learn from you . you only fought a uniformed force who you can easily map out their positions and fire rockets or artillery demolarising them hence advancing .whereas terrorists blend in with the local populace.We only train and learn from the best

Because TPDF have strong and capable functioning bodies. We study and foresee the threats before it's too late too little, we had terrorists in Kibiti and Pangani but we eliminated and definitely they are surprised with our tactics.

Our nation is at calm because of our sacrifices and Great Civilization.
In Kenya you Still live under Tribes Umbrellas, and yet you are proud of your economy.
Once upon a time Somali was among great Nations of Africa but the same reason somali Collapsed still live on in Kenya.

Mtatupa kazi sana ya Kubeba wakimbizi wenu