Ronaldinho alikuwa zaidi ya Messi Barcelona

Ronaldinho alikuwa zaidi ya Messi Barcelona

Mwana Mtoka Pabaya said:
Shame on you.
La tatu, (hii ni kwa faida yako na mama Yo Yo, Gang Chomba na wengineo) Messi kwa muda wote aliochezea timu ya Taifa ya Argentina amekuwa akicheza kama Playmaker (namba 8) ukiondoa mwaka 2012 ambapo kwa mara ya Kwanza amecheza kama Namba 10 na kudhihirisha kuwa hakabiki, mechi yake ya kwanza tu kucheza kama mshambuliaji alipiga Hat-Trik. Kumbuka hapo mwanzo jukumu la kufunga lilikuwa kwa Tevez na Higuan (Fuatilieni mpira sio majungu tu)

Kwa kuongezea, magoli 4 kati ya 12 aliyoifungia Argentina mwaka 2012 ameyafunga baada ya kumaliza beki zote kwa chenga za maudhi
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Kombe la dunia 2006 hiki ndicho kikosi cha Argentina yaani wewe zumbukuku kabisa unaweza kusema mbele ya wanaojua messi amuweke benchi wakati ule kwenye midifilidi nguli aliekuwa anavaa namba 10 Juan Riquelme??? nakuambia ka google tena wakali wa enzi hizo kwenye midifilidi mtu mzima pablo aimar wakalishwe benchi??

Argentina

Head coach: José Pekerman
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[TR]
[TD][TABLE="width: 100"]
[TR]
[TD]No.
[/TD]
[TD]Pos.
[/TD]
[TD]Player
[/TD]
[TD]DoB/Age
[/TD]
[TD]Caps
[/TD]
[TD]Club
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]GK
[/TD]
[TD]Roberto Abbondanzieri
[/TD]
[TD]19 August 1972 (aged 33)
[/TD]
[TD]22
[/TD]
[TD]Boca Juniors
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Roberto Ayala
[/TD]
[TD]14 April 1973 (aged 33)
[/TD]
[TD]100
[/TD]
[TD]Valencia
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Juan Pablo Sorín (c)
[/TD]
[TD]5 May 1976 (aged 30)
[/TD]
[TD]71
[/TD]
[TD]Villarreal
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Fabricio Coloccini
[/TD]
[TD]22 January 1982 (aged 24)
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]Deportivo La Coruña
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]MF
[/TD]
[TD]Esteban Cambiasso
[/TD]
[TD]18 August 1980 (aged 25)
[/TD]
[TD]22
[/TD]
[TD]Internazionale
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Gabriel Heinze
[/TD]
[TD]19 April 1978 (aged 28)
[/TD]
[TD]29
[/TD]
[TD]Manchester United
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]FW
[/TD]
[TD]Javier Saviola
[/TD]
[TD]11 December 1981 (aged 24)
[/TD]
[TD]31
[/TD]
[TD]Barcelona [SUP][24][/SUP]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]MF
[/TD]
[TD]Javier Mascherano
[/TD]
[TD]8 June 1984 (aged 22)
[/TD]
[TD]15
[/TD]
[TD]Corinthians
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]FW
[/TD]
[TD]Hernán Crespo
[/TD]
[TD]5 July 1975 (aged 30)
[/TD]
[TD]55
[/TD]
[TD]Chelsea
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10
[/TD]
[TD]MF
[/TD]
[TD]Juan Román Riquelme
[/TD]
[TD]24 June 1978 (aged 27)
[/TD]
[TD]31
[/TD]
[TD]Villarreal
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11
[/TD]
[TD]FW
[/TD]
[TD]Carlos Tévez
[/TD]
[TD]5 February 1984 (aged 22)
[/TD]
[TD]21
[/TD]
[TD]Corinthians
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12
[/TD]
[TD]GK
[/TD]
[TD]Leo Franco
[/TD]
[TD]29 May 1977 (aged 29)
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]Atlético Madrid
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Lionel Scaloni
[/TD]
[TD]16 May 1978 (aged 28)
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]Deportivo La Coruña [SUP][25][/SUP]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14
[/TD]
[TD]FW
[/TD]
[TD]Rodrigo Palacio
[/TD]
[TD]5 February 1982 (aged 24)
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]Boca Juniors
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Gabriel Milito
[/TD]
[TD]7 September 1980 (aged 25)
[/TD]
[TD]15
[/TD]
[TD]Real Zaragoza
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16
[/TD]
[TD]MF
[/TD]
[TD]Pablo Aimar
[/TD]
[TD]3 November 1979 (aged 26)
[/TD]
[TD]40
[/TD]
[TD]Valencia
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Leandro Cufré
[/TD]
[TD]9 May 1978 (aged 28)
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]Roma
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18
[/TD]
[TD]MF
[/TD]
[TD]Maxi Rodríguez
[/TD]
[TD]2 January 1981 (aged 25)
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]Atlético Madrid
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19
[/TD]
[TD]FW
[/TD]
[TD]Lionel Messi
[/TD]
[TD]24 June 1987 (aged 18)
[/TD]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]Barcelona
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[TD]FW
[/TD]
[TD]Julio Cruz
[/TD]
[TD]10 October 1974 (aged 31)
[/TD]
[TD]15
[/TD]
[TD]Internazionale
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21
[/TD]
[TD]DF
[/TD]
[TD]Nicolás Burdisso
[/TD]
[TD]12 April 1981 (aged 25)
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]Internazionale
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22
[/TD]
[TD]MF
[/TD]
[TD]Lucho González
[/TD]
[TD]19 January 1981 (aged 25)
[/TD]
[TD]27
[/TD]
[TD]Porto
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]GK
[/TD]
[TD]Óscar Ustari
[/TD]
[TD]3 July 1986 (aged 19)
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]Independiente
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Mwana Mtoka Pabaya said:
Shame on you.
La tatu, (hii ni kwa faida yako na mama Yo Yo, Gang Chomba na wengineo) Messi kwa muda wote aliochezea timu ya Taifa ya Argentina amekuwa akicheza kama Playmaker (namba 8) ukiondoa mwaka 2012 ambapo kwa mara ya Kwanza amecheza kama Namba 10 na kudhihirisha kuwa hakabiki, mechi yake ya kwanza tu kucheza kama mshambuliaji alipiga Hat-Trik. Kumbuka hapo mwanzo jukumu la kufunga lilikuwa kwa Tevez na Higuan (Fuatilieni mpira sio majungu tu)

Kwa kuongezea, magoli 4 kati ya 12 aliyoifungia Argentina mwaka 2012 ameyafunga baada ya kumaliza beki zote kwa chenga za maudhi
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Kombe la dunia 2006 hiki ndicho kikosi cha Argentina yaani wewe zumbukuku kabisa unaweza kusema mbele ya wanaojua messi amuweke benchi wakati ule kwenye midifilidi nguli aliekuwa anavaa namba 10 Juan Riquelme??? nakuambia ka google tena wakali wa enzi hizo kwenye midifilidi mtu mzima pablo aimar wakalishwe benchi??

Copa america 2007 again messi akacheza kama FW hiyo unayosema midifilidi umeotoa wapi??

Head coach: Alfio Basile [2]
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[TD]#[/TD]
[TD]Pos.[/TD]
[TD]Player[/TD]
[TD]Date of birth (age)[/TD]
[TD]Caps[/TD]
[TD]Goals[/TD]
[TD]Club[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]GK[/TD]
[TD]Roberto Abbondanzieri[/TD]
[TD]19 August 1972 (aged 34)[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Roberto Ayala[/TD]
[TD]14 April 1973 (aged 34)[/TD]
[TD]109[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Daniel Díaz[/TD]
[TD]13 March 1979 (aged 28)[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Hugo Ibarra[/TD]
[TD]1 April 1974 (aged 33)[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]MF[/TD]
[TD]Fernando Gago[/TD]
[TD]10 April 1986 (aged 21)[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Gabriel Heinze[/TD]
[TD]19 April 1978 (aged 29)[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]FW[/TD]
[TD]Rodrigo Palacio[/TD]
[TD]5 February 1982 (aged 25)[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]MF[/TD]
[TD]Javier Zanetti[/TD]
[TD]10 August 1973 (aged 33)[/TD]
[TD]103[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]FW[/TD]
[TD]Hernán Crespo[/TD]
[TD]5 July 1975 (aged 31)[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]MF[/TD]
[TD]Juan Román Riquelme[/TD]
[TD]24 June 1978 (aged 29)[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD][SUP][/SUP]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]FW[/TD]
[TD]Carlos Tévez[/TD]
[TD]5 February 1984 (aged 23)[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]GK[/TD]
[TD]Juan Pablo Carrizo[/TD]
[TD]6 May 1984 (aged 23)[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]MF[/TD]
[TD]Lucho González[/TD]
[TD]19 January 1981 (aged 26)[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Javier Mascherano[/TD]
[TD]8 June 1984 (aged 23)[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Gabriel Milito[/TD]
[TD]7 September 1980 (aged 26)[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]FW[/TD]
[TD]Pablo Aimar[/TD]
[TD]3 November 1979 (aged 27)[/TD]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Nicolás Burdisso[/TD]
[TD]12 April 1981 (aged 26)[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]FW[/TD]
[TD]Lionel Messi[/TD]
[TD]24 June 1987 (aged 20)[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]MF[/TD]
[TD]Esteban Cambiasso[/TD]
[TD]18 August 1980 (aged 26)[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]MF[/TD]
[TD]Juan Sebastián Verón[/TD]
[TD]9 March 1975 (aged 32)[/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]FW[/TD]
[TD]Diego Milito[/TD]
[TD]12 June 1979 (aged 28)[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD][
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]GK[/TD]
[TD]Agustín Orión*[/TD]
[TD]26 June 1981 (aged 26)[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]DF[/TD]
[TD]Clemente Rodríguez[/TD]
[TD]31 July 1981 (aged 25)[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Mwana Mtoka Pabaya said:
Shame on you.
La tatu, (hii ni kwa faida yako na mama Yo Yo, Gang Chomba na wengineo) Messi kwa muda wote aliochezea timu ya Taifa ya Argentina amekuwa akicheza kama Playmaker (namba 8) ukiondoa mwaka 2012 ambapo kwa mara ya Kwanza amecheza kama Namba 10 na kudhihirisha kuwa hakabiki, mechi yake ya kwanza tu kucheza kama mshambuliaji alipiga Hat-Trik. Kumbuka hapo mwanzo jukumu la kufunga lilikuwa kwa Tevez na Higuan (Fuatilieni mpira sio majungu tu)

Kwa kuongezea, magoli 4 kati ya 12 aliyoifungia Argentina mwaka 2012 ameyafunga baada ya kumaliza beki zote kwa chenga za maudhi
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copa america 2011 hiki ndicho kikosi,FIFA WC 2010 hakuwahi kucheza kama midifilidi…siku nyingine hata kama hujui basi jifunze hata ku google na sio kuleta ubishi wa zito na wakina nape....hapa tunaongea fact na sio siasa dogo.....
 
Companero said:
Ni ulimbukeni kubishana na Ronaldinho mwenyewe ambaye amekiri kuwa Messi ni noma !
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messi ni mkal hatujakataa ila dinho wa barca na messi wa barca dinho mkali...na vigezo kibao soma thread mwanzo......dinho dinho hawezi kusema messi sio mkali hata pele alisema messi mkali ila hamfikiii yeye enzi zake....eleweni msiwe wabishi kama ma profesa wa bongo
 
Yo Yo said:
messi ni mkal hatujakataa ila dinho wa barca na messi wa barca dinho mkali...na vigezo kibao soma thread mwanzo......dinho dinho hawezi kusema messi sio mkali hata pele alisema messi mkali ila hamfikiii yeye enzi zake....eleweni msiwe wabishi kama ma profesa wa bongo
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sasa mbishi kama maprofesa wa bongo ni mimi au weye unayebishana na ronaldinho kuhusu messi kama vile mtu anayelia kuliko wafiwa au kufurahia kuliko maharusi?
 
Gang Chomba said:
Hebu nitajie namba anayocheza Saint Gaucho awapo dimbani?
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huyo jamaa katoka pabaya kweli hajui analoliandika....najua hii playmaker ndio inamzuzua....messi hachezi kama namba 9 kama de lima messi anachez akama deep-lying foward au wale namba tisa za uongo uongo....mpira wa sasa uko tofauti wenye namba hiyo ni watu kama pirlo ambao wame stick haswa kwenye deep lying playmaker...so messi ni deep lying foward....
 
YOYO hapo ndo unapokosea.. Sasa kuweka list ya world cup 2006 unamaanisha ulitaka messi acheze mwenyewe akabebe world cup..

World cup ni team work, tena yenye experience players who can handle tough situations...

Italy wins the world cup 2006 hiyo unayoiongelea ikiwa na wachezaji 10 ambao wameshabeba champions league na clubs zao kwa wakati tofauti.. Ile italy ya 2006 iliundwa na Ac milan players, Juventus players, Inter milan players etc ni wachezaji wenye experience ya kutosha wameshacheza sana champions league..

Sasa messi alikosa hao watu katika Argentina na mpaka leo ndo maana anapata wakati mgumu kutwaa World cup sababu hana strong support from his team mates..

Na hata Spain ilichukua muda mrefu kuja kutawala soka la dunia hadi walipopata kizazi cha experince players like Xavi, iniesta, cassilas, ramos,villa, torres etc

World cup sio prove ya ubora maana hata messi angezaliwa spain au italy angeshabeba world cup maana pass ambazo angepewa na pirlo 2006 au Xavi na iniesta 2010 hazipati akiwa argentina
 
Companero said:
sasa mbishi kama maprofesa wa bongo ni mimi au weye unayebishana na ronaldinho kuhusu messi kama vile mtu anayelia kuliko wafiwa au kufurahia kuliko maharusi?
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hakuna logic hapo....andika kama anejua soka....nambie ukali wa messi zaidi ya dinho ni nini? kipi anachomzidi dinho?
 
MKATA KIU said:
YOYO hapo ndo unapokosea.. Sasa kuweka list ya world cup 2006 unamaanisha ulitaka messi acheze mwenyewe akabebe world cup..

World cup ni team work, tena yenye experience players who can handle tough situations...

Italy wins the world cup 2006 hiyo unayoiongelea ikiwa na wachezaji 10 ambao wameshabeba champions league na clubs zao kwa wakati tofauti.. Ile italy ya 2006 iliundwa na Ac milan players, Juventus players, Inter milan players etc ni wachezaji wenye experience ya kutosha wameshacheza sana champions league..

Sasa messi alikosa hao watu katika Argentina na mpaka leo ndo maana anapata wakati mgumu kutwaa World cup sababu hana strong support from his team mates..

Na hata Spain ilichukua muda mrefu kuja kutawala soka la dunia hadi walipopata kizazi cha experince players like Xavi, iniesta, cassilas, ramos,villa, torres etc

World cup sio prove ya ubora maana hata messi angezaliwa spain au italy angeshabeba world cup maana pass ambazo angepewa na pirlo 2006 au Xavi na iniesta 2010 hazipati akiwa argentina
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hivi nyie huwa mnasoma vema kabla ya kujibu? hebu soma vizuri kwanni nimeweka hiyo list...usiwe mvivu...soma post ya mtoka pabaya niliokopi....
 
Yo Yo said:
Kombe la dunia 2006 hiki ndicho kikosi cha Argentina yaani wewe zumbukuku kabisa unaweza kusema mbele ya wanaojua messi amuweke benchi wakati ule kwenye midifilidi nguli aliekuwa anavaa namba 10 Juan Riquelme??? nakuambia ka google tena wakali wa enzi hizo kwenye midifilidi mtu mzima pablo aimar wakalishwe benchi??

Copa america 2007 again messi akacheza kama FW hiyo unayosema midifilidi umeotoa wapi??
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Mbona unakurupuka mama Yo Yo? Mimi nilisema wapi kuwa Messi alimweka benchi Riquelme? Usitoke mishipa ya koo kwa maandishi ya mtandaoni, fainali za World Cup 2006 Messi hakucheza alikuwa benchi sasa sijui unacholilia ni nini? Au mchezaji akipata dkk 10 za mwisho ndio kacheza?

Copa America 2007 Messi na Aguero walikuwepo kwenye timu lakini hawakucheza mbele ya Tevez, Higuan na Millito au kujumuishwa kwao tu katika timu basi ndio walicheza?

Shida yako unakurupuka mama Yo Yo, mimi nilichosema ni kwamba Messi ni Gold Medalist wa Olympic 2005 na alikuwa Top Scorer. Kuonekana kwa Messi fully kwenye National Team ni World Cup 2010 ambapo alicheza kati na Mascherano. Mwaka jana, kwa mara ya kwanza Messi alichezeshwa namba 10 kuanzia mwanzo wa mechi mpaka mwisho na tayari amefunga magoli 12 ndani ya mwaka 2012 peke yake.

Unajua mnataka tu kujifanya wajinga wakati akili mnazo. Messi hayuko pabaya kwenye mchango wake kwa timu ya taifa, angalia chati

As of November 14, 2012, the ten players with the most goals for Argentina are:
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[TR]
[TH="class: headerSort, width: 50px"]#[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Career[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort, width: 50px"]Goals[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort, width: 50px"]Caps[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort, width: 50px"]Avg/Game[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Gabriel Batistuta[/TD]
[TD]1991–2004[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]0.718[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Hernán Crespo[/TD]
[TD]1995–2012[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]64[/TD]
[TD]0.555[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Diego Maradona[/TD]
[TD]1977–1994[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]91[/TD]
[TD]0.374[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Lionel Messi[/TD]
[TD]2005–present[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD]0.408[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luis Artime[/TD]
[TD]1961–1967[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]0.960[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Leopoldo Luque[/TD]
[TD]1975–1981[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]0.488[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Daniel Passarella[/TD]
[TD]1976–1986[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]0.314[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]José Sanfilippo[/TD]
[TD]1956–1962[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]0.724
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Herminio Masantonio[/TD]
[TD]1935–1942[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]1.105
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Mario Kempes[/TD]
[TD]1973–1995[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]0.465
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Haya na kama mnadhani Ronaldinho ndio Mungu wa Brazil, takwimu zake na yeye hizi hapa.

[h=3]Top goalscorers[/h] As of November 15, 2012[SUP][2][/SUP]Players in bold are still active, at least at club level. [TABLE="class: wikitable"]
[TR]
[TH="width: 30"]#[/TH]
[TH="width: 150"]Name[/TH]
[TH="width: 50"]Goals[/TH]
[TH="width: 50"]Caps[/TH]
[TH="width: 120"]First cap[/TH]
[TH="width: 120"]Latest cap[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Pelé[/TD]
[TD]77[/TD]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 7, 1957[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 18, 1971[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ronaldo[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]March 23, 1994[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 7, 2011[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Romário[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 23, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 27, 2005[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Zico[/TD]
[TD]52[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]February 25, 1976[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 21, 1986[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Bebeto[/TD]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 28, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 12, 1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Rivaldo[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]74[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]December 16, 1993[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 19, 2003[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jairzinho[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 7, 1964[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]March 3, 1982[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Ronaldinho[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]94[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 26, 1999[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]February 29, 2012[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ademir[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 21, 1945[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]March 15, 1953[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Tostão[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 15, 1966[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 9, 1972[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Zizinho[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 1, 1942[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 3, 1957[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Careca[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]March 21, 1982[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]August 1, 1993[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Kaká[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]85[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 31, 2002[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 15, 2012[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luís Fabiano[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 11, 2003[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]September 19, 2012[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Adriano[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]48[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 15, 2000[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]March 2, 2010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Rivelino[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 16, 1965[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 24, 1978[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Robinho[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 13, 2003[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]August 10, 2011[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jair[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]March 5, 1940[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 16, 1950[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Sócrates[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 17, 1979[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 21, 1986[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Leônidas[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]December 4, 1932[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 29, 1946[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Na umbea wenu, Messi kaichezea Argentina Mechi 76, ana magoli 31 na Ronaldinho kacheza Mechi 94 ana magoli 33. Halafu ngoja nikuoneshe jinsi msivyo na haya wala aibu. Cheki hiyo Poll ya Wabrazil hapa chini

Below are the results of a poll by International Federation of Football History & Statistics (IFFHS) for the best Brazilian player of the 20th century.[SUP][53][/SUP][SUP][54][/SUP]
[TABLE="class: wikitable"]
Player of the Century [TR]
[TH="width: 20"]#[/TH]
[TH="width: 150"]Name[/TH]
[TH="width: 100"]Career[/TH]
[TH="width: 40"]Votes[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Pelé[/TD]
[TD]1957–1971[/TD]
[TD]220[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Garrincha[/TD]
[TD]1955–1966[/TD]
[TD]142[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Zico[/TD]
[TD]1971–1989[/TD]
[TD]51[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Zizinho[/TD]
[TD]1942–1957[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Arthur Friedenreich[/TD]
[TD]1912–1935[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Tostão[/TD]
[TD]1966–1972[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Didi[/TD]
[TD]1952–1962[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Leônidas[/TD]
[TD]1932–1946[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nílton Santos[/TD]
[TD]1949–1962[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Ronaldo[/TD]
[TD]1994–2011[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Romário[/TD]
[TD]1987–2005[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Falcão[/TD]
[TD]1976–1986[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Rivelino[/TD]
[TD]1965–1978[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ademir da Guia[/TD]
[TD]1965–1974[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luís Pereira[/TD]
[TD]1973–1977[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Carlos Alberto Torres[/TD]
[TD]1964–1977[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Domingos da Guia[/TD]
[TD]1931–1946[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ademir[/TD]
[TD]1945–1953[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Bebeto[/TD]
[TD]1985–1998[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Jairzinho[/TD]
[TD]1963–1982[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Haya nioneshe jina la Ronaldinho lipo namba ngapi kwenye level za Wabrazil wenyewe.

Jealous zitawaua
 
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A look at 10 of the best Barcelona players to have donned the famous blaugrana shirt.

[h=3]1. Lionel Messi[/h]Laurence Griffiths / Getty Images

Messi is the club's record goalscorer and the 2009, 2010 and 2011 World Player of the Year just gets better. Any debate about the best player ever usually revolves around Pele and Maradona, but Messi is now being mentioned in the same breath as these two greats. The Argentinean is a supreme dribbler, passer and finisher, with the ability to affect a game without scoring. A regular provider of assists, Messi's rat like cunning leaves defenders dumbfounded.




2. László Kubala
Gianni Ferrari / Getty Images

A total of 274 goals in 345 appearances between 1950 and 1961 speaks for itself. The only European player to be capped by three different national sides (Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Spain), the forward was excellent at turning players and a strong dribbler. The way he dispatched the ball with power and precision past opposing goalkeepers made him feared across the land and ensured he regularly got into double figures in the goal charts. Winner of four Spanish titles and two Fairs Cups.



[h=3]3. Xavi Hernandez[/h]David Ramos / Getty Images

Now into his 30s, Xavi has been Barcelona's midfield metronome for many years. An expert distributor of the ball, Xavi is capable of being both economic or expansive in possession, regularly dictating a game's rhythm. He has become invaluable for Barcelona as the years have gone on, and although not a prolific scorer from midfield (he has only got into double figures once in his career), his runs into the box and ability to take free-kicks are invaluable for club and country.



[h=3]4. Ronaldinho[/h]Getty Images

For a while, Ronaldinho was the best player in the world. Those devastating bursts of acceleration that took him past multiple defenders were taken for granted at Camp Nou after the club beat Manchester United to his signature in 2003. Also an expert free-kick taker, Ronnie won two Spanish League titles and a Champions League during his time at the club. A penchant for partying has been a recurring theme during his career, and like fellow countryman Rivaldo, the cules (fans) were pleased to see the back of him in 2008, with Messi coming to the fore.



[h=3]5. Rivaldo[/h]Getty Images

The bow-legged Brazilian may have been the subject of jeers from certain sections of the club's demanding support base in his latter days, but that was merely because he was no longer producing the inventive performances that characterized his stay at Camp Nou. Rivaldo possessed a wicked left foot and his curling free-kicks were a thing of beauty. A repertoire of outlandish tricks made him a box office draw in La Liga from the mid-nineties to the early noughties (he also enjoyed a spell at Deportivo La Coruna. Eight-six goals in 159 Barca games was an impressive haul for a playmaker. Scorer of arguably the best hat-trick ever against Valencia in June 2001 to secure Champions League qualification.



[h=3]6. Andres Iniesta[/h]Shaun Botterill / Getty Images
Like Messi and Xavi, Iniesta came through the club's La Masia youth system. His understanding with the latter borders on the telepathic at times. Iniesta is scoring more goals as his career progresses, but his game is all about linking up with team-mates, those passing triangles he and Xavi produce being a trademark of Josep Guardiola's Barcelona tenure. Iniesta is also very modest, never creating problems for the coaches he works under. His winner for Spain in the 2010 World Cup final against Holland means he is loved by fans across the country, even those of city neighbors Espanyol.



[h=3]7. Hristo Stoichkov[/h]Clive Brunskill / Getty Images

Real Madrid's chief tormentor in his seven seasons at the club, the moody Bulgarian may have divided opinion away from Catalonia, but his two stints at Barca garnered no fewer than eight major trophies. An ability to produce the unexpected, mainly from the left of midfield, was his defining characteristic combined with a goals ratio (85 goals in 175 appearances) that surpassed expectation. He claimed in 2010 that Real Madrid ‘make me sick' – a comment that no doubt cemented his place in the hearts of the fans.



[h=3]8. Josep Guardiola[/h]Shaun Botterill / Getty Images

‘Pep' played the game with a delicious simplicity. Rarely taking more than two touches of the ball, he would dictate play in a similar fashion to how Xavi does nowadays. Guardiola was Jonan Cruyff's eyes and ears on the pitch and a key figure in the side that dominated Spanish soccer in the early 90s (winning four Liga titles in a row) and won the 1992 European Cup against Sampdoria at Wembley. Guardiola would also go on to become a successful coach at Barcelona. Elegant, humble and a workaholic.



9. Johan Cruyff
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The Dutch legend was one of the main protagonists in the challenge to Real Madrid's dominance after joining the club in 1974 for a world record US$1 million. After his arrival at the club, Barca enjoyed a greater share of the game's major honors. Cruyff's assertion that he chose Barca over Real because he could not play for a team associated with Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, won him instant admiration in Catalonia. His ability to dictate play set him apart from the rest, and 16 goals in 26 league appearances helped Barca to the title in his debut season.



[h=3]10. Michael Laudrup[/h]Shaun Botterill / Getty Images

One of the players most similar in style to Cruyff, the Dane was a major player in Barca's ‘Dream Team'. Cruyff handed Laudrup a free role after signing the player from Juventus in 1989 and was paid back with a flurry of assists for the likes of Stoichkov. His outstanding technique, dribbling ability and range of passing ensured that he was also a huge hit at bitter rivals Real Madrid, who he joined in 1994. Laudrup's trademark move was to look one way and pass the other.
 
Ni makosa kumfananisha Messi na mchezaji mwingine. Dinho was better but football wise, there is no way he can be better than Messi.acheni mambo ya kukatika viuno hapa..Tunapoongelea mpira hatuzungumzii madoido. Haya nani zaidi akiwa Barca
Ninaanza na Dinho

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Amecheza misimu 5. amecheza jumla ya mechi 214(club and country) amefunga goli 94 na kutoa assists 81. Ametwaa mataji kama ifuatavyo. laliga mara 2, champions league 1,ngao ya hisani(supercopa de espana) 2 na kufanikiwa kupata tuzo ya Ballon dOr mara moja akiwa Barca mwaka 2005.




Pia akiwa mchezaji wa Barca amepata award zifuatazo




Haya sasa tumuone Messi akiwa Barca amefanya nini?

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Amecheza misimu 9.amecheza jumla ya mechi 356+76 ( club and country ) amefunga jumla ya goli 289+31 .Hapa hazijajumlishwa assist ila nafikiri mnajua,ni more than 150 assists. Ametwaa mataji kama ifuatavyo laliga 4, copa de la rey 2,ngao ya hisani 5,champions league 3,supercup 2,fifa club world cup 2.na Ballon dOR ametwaa mara 4.

[h=3]Barcelona[/h]

Pia kwa ujumla akiwa mchezaji wa Barca amepata award zifuatazo kwa ujumla



Samahani Gang Chomba na wenzio mlikuwa mnasema nani zaidi? na kwa sababu gani?
 
Yo Yo said:
messi ni mkal hatujakataa ila dinho wa barca na messi wa barca dinho mkali...na vigezo kibao soma thread mwanzo......dinho dinho hawezi kusema messi sio mkali hata pele alisema messi mkali ila hamfikiii yeye enzi zake....eleweni msiwe wabishi kama ma profesa wa bongo
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Unajua shida yenu ipo kwenye ubongo na mioyo yenye jealous.

Kama mnataka kura yangu kwa Gaucho basi badilisha mada. Andika: MCHEZAJI ANAYEPIGA CHENGA ZAIDI na hapo nitawataja Ronaldinho, Okocha, Kanu, Zidane, Ginola, Vieira, na Messi atakuwa wa 8 au kumi na kitu hivi.

Lakini kama unazungumzia nani ni mkali wa Soka, basi unajipa shida kubishana na duni nzima.

Nimekuwekea takwimu nyingi tu kazi kwako kusoma, manake mlidhani Gaucho ana mchango mkubwa kwa Brazil zaidi ya Messi alivyoichangia Argentina. Acheni wivu, tofautisheni chenga na mpira.

Thamani ya Messi haiko kwenye midomo ya watu bali kwenye nini anafanya uwanjani. Hata ukikataa vipi Messi ataendelea kuvunja rekodi na kuweka za kwake.

Soma majedwali acha ubishi wa kike
 
Halafu hata huyo Dinho mwenyewe alishakubali Messi ni NOUUUUMAAAA!!!!!!!!!
 
Kalumbesa said:
Halafu hata huyo Dinho mwenyewe alishakubali Messi ni NOUUUUMAAAA!!!!!!!!!
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Watu wanamchukia Messi kwa sababu ya matendo mabaya ambayo Messi alizifanya timu zao. Kumchukia sio tija, huyo wanayemlinganisha naye sio hata wa kiwango chake. Hata hapo juu nimewawekea chati waone hata huko Brazil Dinho wala sio kama wanavyotaka awe kwa midomo yao.

He is 'JUICY' but not a Legend.

Messi ni habari nyingine, a frightening fighter.

SIE TUTABISHA KWA MIDOMO HUKU YEYE ANAVUNJA REKODI ZAIDI KWA MIGUU
 
Mwana Mtoka Pabaya said:
Watu wanamchukia Messi kwa sababu ya matendo mabaya ambayo Messi alizifanya timu zao. Kumchukia sio tija, huyo wanayemlinganisha naye sio hata wa kiwango chake. Hata hapo juu nimewawekea chati waone hata huko Brazil Dinho wala sio kama wanavyotaka awe kwa midomo yao.

He is 'JUICY' but not a Legend.

Messi ni habari nyingine, a frightening fighter.

SIE TUTABISHA KWA MIDOMO HUKU YEYE ANAVUNJA REKODI ZAIDI KWA MIGUU
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Sawia kabisa, Messi does the talking on the pitch.Na dogo atavunja rekodi nyingi.Hata rekodi ya goli nyingi argentina national team ataivunja ni suala la muda na uzima !!
 
mcubic said:
Dinho anakokota mpira katika upande wa kushoto....anamtambuka salgado...dinho anaingia kwenye kumi nane ...hatari pale....... Goooooooooooooo......mechi hii Madrid alikufa sita kwa mbili....benabeu...Lol Dinho kiboko.....
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Mkuu, Ronaldinho hakuwepo Barca wakati wa Pep Guardiola..!
 
Kalumbesa said:
Sawia kabisa, Messi does the talking on the pitch.Na dogo atavunja rekodi nyingi.Hata rekodi ya goli nyingi argentina national team ataivunja ni suala la muda na uzima !!
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Likely! Messi bado yupo hai na ndio kwanza mid twenties.

Hata Pele alijaribu kujishebedua na tumaneno twa mafungu kusema eti Neymar ni zaidi ya Messi. Maradona akamwambia 'Stay tuned, you just play macho' na naamini keshaona. The day Barca imecheza fainali ya Club Bingwa ya Dunia na Santos, kila mtu asiyemfahamu Messi alidhani kuwa angefunikwa na Neymar.

Matokeo yake ni Neymar ndio alitoka mchezoni. Messi akajifungia zake goli akalamba tuzo mbili hapo hapo.

Messi ni kitu kingine, labda tumshindanishe kwa kuchekacheka na kutabasamu kama baba nanii wa magogoni, lkn kwa kukipiga na rekodi, Messi is great. Ni matusi kumlinganisha na mtu ambaye hata kwenye nchi yake mwenyewe tu hayumo kwenye 20 bora
 
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