Sababu ya kukataliwa katika biblia(apokrifa)

[Gavana]

Asante Mkuu [emoji120]

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I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8
"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

 

[Gavana]

Vitabu vya apokrifa. Je umewahi Kusikia biblia yenye Vitabu 72? "Huu ni uvumbuzi Mkubwa watu wengi watakasirika"Habari hii inabadili historia ya ukristo wa mapema"maneno Hayo yenye kuchochea fikra yalisemwa na wasomi Fulani Walio furahi kupata maandishi ya "injili ya yuda"yaliyodhaniwa Kwamba yalikuwa ya mepotea kwa zaidi ya karne 16. Vitabu vitakatifu vya watu wa kiyahudi ambavyo havikujumuishwa kwenye katika Biblia ya waebrania . Ufunuo uliotolewa Kupitia Joseph Smith Nabii huko Kirtland Ohio Tarehe 9march1833 Alikuwa anajishughulisha na tafsiri ya agano la kale Akiwa amefika kwenye sehemu ya maandishi ya kale yaitwayo Apokrifa alimuuliza bwana(Mungu) nakupokea Maelezo ya fuatayo "Apokrifa kwa kiasi kikubwa vimetafsiriwa kwa usahihi lakini kina nyongeza na Mabadiliko yasiyo sahihi"M na M 91:1-3 "Apokrifa zaweza kuwafaa wale wenye kuongozwa na roho"M na M 91:4-6(M na M -Mafundisho na Maagano ya Kanisa la Yesu kristo la watakatifu wa siku za mwisho yenye mafunuo yaliyo tolewa kwa nabii Joseph Smith pamoja na nyongeza zilizo tolewa kwa warithi wake katika uraisi wa kanisa) Neno apokrifa linatokana na neno la kigiriki ambalo lina maanisha kuficha. Mwanzoni neno hili lilimaanisha maandishi ambayo yalisomwa na kikundi cha watu Fulani Waliokuwa na Maoni yaliyo patana na ambayo yalifichwa kutoka kwa watu ambao hawakuwa sehemu ya kikundi hicho. Baadaye neno hilo likatumiwa kamaanisha maandishi ambayo hayakuonwa kuwa katika Vitabu vya biblia vinavyo kubalika. Majina ya Vitabu vya apokrifa ni 1Tobiti 2Yudith 3lmakabayo 4IIMakabayo 5Yoshua bin sira 6Hekima ya sulemani 7Baruku UMUHIMU WA BAADHI YA VITABU. Vitabu hivi daima nivya muhimu katika kuunganisha Agano la kale na jipya na vinachukuliwa katika Kanisa kama Vitabu vya manufaa vinasaidia wanazuoni kufahamu mambo yafuatayo nini kilikuwa kinaendelea katika dini na taifa la kiyahudi katika miaka Ile ya Giza Kati ya malaki na mathayo kufahamu Mazingira ya siasa dini na Tamaduni aliyo zaliwa Yesu kujua chanzo cha Ibada za wafu katika Kanisa katoliki na viongozi Walio anzisha SABABU ZA KUKATALIWA. Havi kukubaliwa na waebrania na dini yao hata wakati Mmoja kitabu cha mapokeo ya wayahudi kinasema baada ya malaki roho mtakatfu aliondoka Israeli hii ina maana unabii au uandishi wowote baada ya malaki ulikuwa Hauna uvuvio wa Mungu maneno yaliyomo katika apokrifa haya kutajwa kwenye agano jipya wanafalsa yosefu na filo wataalamu Walio bobea katika historia ya wakati ule walivikataa Vitabu hivi havikuwa na haviko katika orodha yoyote Ile ya maandiko matakatifu kabla ya mwaka 400kk waaandishii wa Vitabu hivi hawakudai Hata Mara moja kuwa Vitabu hivi ni vya Mungu havipatikani katika mAmbo makuu ya theologia Yesu hakuwahi kunukuu katika Vitabu hivi mitume na manabii hawakuwahi kunukuu Vitabu hivi. VILIANZA LINI KUTUMIKA. Vilianza kutumiwa rasmi na Kanisa katoliki mwaka 1546Bk katika kukabiliana na matengenezo yaliyo kuwa ya kifanywa na Martin Luther na wenzake chini ya papa Paul III . Karibuni Wakuu

I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8
"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

 

[Gavana]

Nitapataje Biblia ya kiswahili yenye vitabu vya apokrifa...msaada Please[emoji120]

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The New Testament confirms the Apocalypse (Revelation in Greek) of Peter which claims that Jesus never died on the cross!

The sections of this article are:

1- The NT confirms that only Peter witnessed the crucifixion.
2- The Apocalypse of Peter was written and spoken by Peter himself!
3- Some important notes about the "blind" trinitarians from the Apocalypse.

- Even the NT itself is confused about whether it was the cross or a tree!
- The Apocalypse of Peter answers this confusion!

4- The current trinity lie is not different from the far eastern pagan religions.

5- Did the Disciples of Jesus really die for the trinity and/or crucifixion lie?
- Christians fought fiercely (in debates) among each others on who Jesus was!
- Jesus' sins when he was a "kid".
- The vast popularity of the Apocalypse of Peter among early Christians even in the 4th century!
- The wrath of Rome on everybody, including the Christians.

6- So why would people really dare to make up lies about Jesus or any Truth in general for this matter?
- The "Big Brother" law.

7- The many different Canons (New Testaments) that Christians believe in, and the hundreds of manuscripts.
- Constantine's unified "Bible" was permanently lost! Only portions of it were found almost 1/2 century later.
- Hundreds of conflicting manuscripts existed among early Christians.
- Detailed listing of the different canons of the "Bible".

 

[the muter]

Ukiweza naomba tujie na uchambuzi wa kitabu kimoja moja mfano injili ya petro, Thomas, barnaba nk

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[mgen]

The New Testament confirms the Apocalypse (Revelation in Greek) of Peter which claims that Jesus never died on the cross!

The sections of this article are:

1- The NT confirms that only Peter witnessed the crucifixion.
2- The Apocalypse of Peter was written and spoken by Peter himself!
3- Some important notes about the "blind" trinitarians from the Apocalypse.

- Even the NT itself is confused about whether it was the cross or a tree!
- The Apocalypse of Peter answers this confusion!

4- The current trinity lie is not different from the far eastern pagan religions.

5- Did the Disciples of Jesus really die for the trinity and/or crucifixion lie?
- Christians fought fiercely (in debates) among each others on who Jesus was!
- Jesus' sins when he was a "kid".
- The vast popularity of the Apocalypse of Peter among early Christians even in the 4th century!
- The wrath of Rome on everybody, including the Christians.

6- So why would people really dare to make up lies about Jesus or any Truth in general for this matter?
- The "Big Brother" law.

7- The many different Canons (New Testaments) that Christians believe in, and the hundreds of manuscripts.
- Constantine's unified "Bible" was permanently lost! Only portions of it were found almost 1/2 century later.
- Hundreds of conflicting manuscripts existed among early Christians.
- Detailed listing of the different canons of the "Bible".

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[Otorong'ong'o]

Cc Eiyer AROON Ntunzu

Ohhh.....Ngoja nisome

SALA NA KAZI

 

[Otorong'ong'o]

Yani umeandika kama umeharisha...hakuna nukta, mara Matayo, filo, yosepfu..yani vurugu tupu

 

[mgen]

I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8
"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

wee ungekuwa mjuzi ungekuwa mkamuliwa ngama mtarajiwa [emoji47] subiri tu huna ujanja mkamuaji anasubibi kujinafasi kuchezea mvutu kata tatu hadi aridhike, na ulivyo tonge nyama [emoji86] yalah [emoji8] [emoji39]

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[Otorong'ong'o]

Yeah Ila Wanadaii havina uvuvio wa Mungu

Wakina nani wanadai..??

 

[Otorong'ong'o]

sio wakati roho mtakatfu aliondoka Israeli?

Sijakupata.. huyo Roho akaondoka akaenda wapi..?? Kwanini aondoke..? Nani alimuondoa..??

 

[baba bora]

Yani umeandika kama umeharisha...hakuna nukta, mara Matayo, filo, yosepfu..yani vurugu tupu

[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] nimejaribu ku edit nimeshindwa asante

 

[baba bora]

Wakina nani wanadai..??

Wayahudi na waporestanti katika orodha ya Vitabu vyao

 

[baba bora]

Sijakupata.. huyo Roho akaondoka akaenda wapi..?? Kwanini aondoke..? Nani alimuondoa..??

Aliondoka kurudi Mbinguni(yalipo makao ya Mungu kwa mujibu wa biblia)

 

[Nichumu Nibebike]

Kha! Kuna kitabu kama kile cha 2Esdras... Kina ujumbe mzito kweli kweli. Vile vitabu navipendaga sana na sijui ni kwa nini walivitoaga kwenye Bible...
Hili tukio linalosimuliwa hapa hata mimi niliwahi kuliona. Siku moja nikiwa nimelala usingizi mwepesi ilikuja picha/ maono nikaona mwana wa Adam akiwa amesimama katika kundi kubwa sana la watu... Ghafla ile picha ikapotea maana ili last for about three seconds only...

2Esdras2

42 I Esdras saw upon the mount Sion a great people, whom I could not number, and they all praised the Lord with songs.
43 And in the midst of them there was a young man of a high stature, taller than all the rest, and upon every one of their heads he set crowns, and was more exalted; which I marvelled at greatly.
44 So I asked the angel, and said, Sir, what are these?
45 He answered and said unto me, These be they that have put off the mortal clothing, and put on the immortal, and have confessed the name of God: now are they crowned, and receive palms.
46 Then said I unto the angel, What young person is it that crowneth them, and giveth them palms in their hands?
47 So he answered and said unto me, It is the Son of God, whom they have confessed in the world. Then began I greatly to commend them that stood so stiffly for the name of the Lord.
48 Then the angel said unto me, Go thy way, and tell my people what manner of things, and how great wonders of the Lord thy God, thou hast seen.

King James Version + Apocrypha 2 Esdras 2

 

[baba bora]

I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8
"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

Mkuu vimefichwa na karamu ya uongo ya waandishi.

 

[Gavana]

wee ungekuwa mjuzi ungekuwa mkamuliwa ngama mtarajiwa [emoji47] subiri tu huna ujanja mkamuaji anasubibi kujinafasi kuchezea mvutu kata tatu hadi aridhike, na ulivyo tonge nyama [emoji86] yalah [emoji8] [emoji39]

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Nilijua utajibu hayo kwa Yayo Agassi , hutaki kuusikia ukweli , lakini ninawe mpaka kieleweke

I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8

"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

 

[Gavana]

wee haya hayakuhusu nenda kilingeni mbuguma wanakusubiri uwaoshe nuksi [emoji15] [emoji4]

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NI KWELI MIMI HAYANIHUSU NA NDIO NIKAKULETEA WEWE YANAYOKUHUSU UYAELEWE

HAPA KAZI TU 😀😀😀


The NT confirms that only Peter witnessed the crucifixion:

First of all, it is important to know that according to the New Testament itself, all of Jesus' Disciples fled for their lives on the night of crucifixion. None of them witnessed Jesus' crucifixion except for one, that is Saint Peter! He was the lone and only witness of the actual crucifixion event. Let us look at what the Bible's New Testament says:


Matthew 26:34-35, 55-57, 69-75
34 Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples.
.......
55 In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
57 And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.
69 Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.
70 But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest.
71 And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
72 And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man.
73 And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee.
74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.



Now as we clearly see, Peter did witness the so-called crucifixion event. He was present there. The only thing that saved him from death is his denial that he knew Jesus. Otherwise, he would've got crucified that night.

 

[Titicomb]

I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8
"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

Gavana umeweka hoja nzito sana, wenye kuelewa lazima wakubaliane na kudai hivyo vitabu, Je ndio hivi vilivyokataliwa? Nasubiri majibu ....

 

[mgen]

Nilijua utajibu hayo kwa Yayo Agassi , hutaki kuusikia ukweli , lakini ninawe mpaka kieleweke

I have been reading with interest the last few exchanges regarding the reading of Jeremiah 8:8.

JEREMIAH 8:8

"How can you say,We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie,"
Note: ( Whenever you see that term 'law of the Lord' the Hebrew word is Torah.)


To me with all due respect to my Christian friends, I think what is stated is crystal clear.

This will also hope to explain why Jesus a.s was always so hard on the SCRIBES!

I think for those who don't believe that the Torah was lost to posterity at one time would do good to read the following .

2 KINGS 22:8

"And Hiil-kiah, the high priest,said unto Shaphan, the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hil-kiah gave the book to Sha phan, and he read it."

"The accession of Josiah and his eagerness to restore the worship of Jehovah led to the renovation of the Temple, and in the course of this, B.C. 621, the book of Deuteronomy was discovered. The priest took it to the king, who joyfully welcomed it and set about putting its program of religious reformation into effect. The dramatic story is told in 2 Kings 22 and 23. Josiah put a stop to the idolatrous practices of the people,..." (Edgar J. Goodspeed 'How came the Bible?' pgs22-23)

The Holy Quran is not the only book claiming that some previous scripture was lost! The Bible does, on occasion, mention books now lost to posterity.

EXAMPLES:

NUMBERS 21:14
"Wherefore it is said in the BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD, What He did in the Red Sea, and in the brooks of Arnon..."

Has any one during an Archeological dig(to prove the Bible) found this little gem?

JOSHUA10:13

"...Is this not written in the BOOK OF JASHER?"

Does any one know where this book is?

I KINGS 11:41

"And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are not written in the BOOK OF THE ACTS OF SOLOMON?"

Could someone let me know where this book is?

1 CHRONICLES 29:29

"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written a BOOK OF SAMUEL THE SEER, and in the BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET, and in the BOOK OF GAD THE SEER,.."

Does anyone know where I may find these original books?

WHERE ARE THE ABOVE MENTIONED BOOKS?

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The NT confirms that only Peter witnessed the crucifixion:

First of all, it is important to know that according to the New Testament itself, all of Jesus' Disciples fled for their lives on the night of crucifixion. None of them witnessed Jesus' crucifixion except for one, that is Saint Peter! He was the lone and only witness of the actual crucifixion event. Let us look at what the Bible's New Testament says:


Matthew 26:34-35, 55-57, 69-75
34 Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples.
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55 In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
57 And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.
69 Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.
70 But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest.
71 And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.
72 And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man.
73 And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee.
74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.



Now as we clearly see, Peter did witness the so-called crucifixion event. He was present there. The only thing that saved him from death is his denial that he knew Jesus. Otherwise, he would've got crucified that night.

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