So Violent people on earth?

[MwanaFalsafa1]

Have you realized a common flow to your reply? There is a lot of "maybe". When there is a maybe it means what you are saying is not a matter of fact and is at best debatable. Now let me take each piece of your reply and answer it accordingly.

Connection between being christian and violent?: Since most violent people happens to be from christian countries, and human being being is influenced by enviroment including culture (christian in this case) ..we can deduce that christianity might be the cause..

You also have to understand that culture is wide and does not include only religion. What you are saying only holds true if religion is the only thing that influences culture. Have you looked and investigated other parts of the white man's culture? You can not say simply religion is the only thing that influences the way they act. That is a very one dimensional argument.

Are this white violent because there are christians?: yes or may be! that is the fundamental question for the thread.

You say "yes or may be" which already shows you are not sure. It means you have not proven yet that these whites are violent because they are Christians. And stop saying that is the fundamental question to the thread. Your thread says Christian nations are most violent people it never said anything about whites. Don't change your own thread. I'm the one who pointed out that your thread only refers to white Christians.

Your argument that this traits are unique cannot nullify the hypothesis that most violent people on earth happens to be christians..because there are vivid historical evidence which support the argument..the central issue is why many if not selected few from africa and other parts of the world are so violent?

That is my question. Why do you provide evidence only for white Christians and not all Christians? If Christianity meant being violent then all Christians would be violent. If other Christians are not violent then it is safe to presume that there is another factor which is not Christianity which makes them violent. Mkuu weren't you taught critical thinking in school? And yes my argument can nullify your hypothesis because that's exactly what this thread is a hypothesis not a proven fact. Unajua maana ya neno hypothesis?

Does bible encourage violence?: may be ...because if you consume garbage then expect the negative consequences...perhaps bible the book were christians derived their moral standard is behind this violent behavior, may be the cause...

Again maybe. Prove your point. How is the Bible rubbish? The Holy Book is there so mention specific examples from the Bible which you feel causes are person to be violent. Again here all your answers are "may be" which is a sign of not being sure.

If not.then bibles effects to human moral behaviour is less less and useless book which change nobody (except few) leaving majority on their violent bahaviour...

If not? So you are not sure but you are just throwing ideas out there and seeing which one works? I'm starting to doubt you know what you are talking about.


Like I said earlier your replies are full of uncertainties. Too many ifs and maybes. I have asked you questions you failed to answer but rather just repeated what I said, said if or maybe and threw the questions back to me. Word of advise.

*You said Christians are violent but you gave evidence for only White Christians. You have no supporting evidence to show that other Christians behave the same way. So until you give the same examples of Christians in Africa, Asia and Latin America your evidence will remain unique to Westerners only. For example, let's say regarding suicide bombings. I could give an example of Muslim suicide bombings by Arab Muslims, Asian Muslims, African Muslims, White Muslims etc. But I can't give an example of something that happens only in Arabia and say this is the characteristics of all Muslims.

 

[Tumain]

Allah, yaani kasahau kumweka Marehemu Moham-mad kwenye Koran yake iliyo jaa shaka. lol.

Kweli Yesu ni kiboko.

Mkuu hii siyo sehemu yake..yanajadiliwa kweli kwenye dini...by the way Allah ndio kamtuma yesu..so hakuna tatizo kutajwa kwenye kitabu chake...kitukufu...hatuna uogomvi na hilo,..next

 

[MaxShimba]

Mkuu hii siyo sehemu yake..yanajadiliwa kweli kwenye dini...by the way Allah ndio kamtuma yesu..so hakuna tatizo kutajwa kwenye kitabu chake...kitukufu...hatuna uogomvi na hilo,..next

Allah kamtuma Yesu wapi na kufanya nini?

 

[Tumain]

Have you realized a common flow to your reply? There is a lot of "maybe". When there is a maybe it means what you are saying is not a matter of fact and is at best debatable. Now let me take each piece of your reply and answer it accordingly.



You also have to understand that culture is wide and does not include only religion. What you are saying only holds true if religion is the only thing that influences culture. Have you looked and investigated other parts of the white man's culture? You can not say simply religion is the only thing that influences the way they act. That is a very one dimensional argument.



You say "yes or may be" which already shows you are not sure. It means you have not proven yet that these whites are violent because they are Christians. And stop saying that is the fundamental question to the thread. Your thread says Christian nations are most violent people it never said anything about whites. Don't change your own thread. I'm the one who pointed out that your thread only refers to white Christians.



That is my question. Why do you provide evidence only for white Christians and not all Christians? If Christianity meant being violent then all Christians would be violent. If other Christians are not violent then it is safe to presume that there is another factor which is not Christianity which makes them violent. Mkuu weren't you taught critical thinking in school? And yes my argument can nullify your hypothesis because that's exactly what this thread is a hypothesis not a proven fact. Unajua maana ya neno hypothesis?




Again maybe. Prove your point. How is the Bible rubbish? The Holy Book is there so mention specific examples from the Bible which you feel causes are person to be violent. Again here all your answers are "may be" which is a sign of not being sure.



If not? So you are not sure but you are just throwing ideas out there and seeing which one works? I'm starting to doubt you know what you are talking about.


Like I said earlier your replies are full of uncertainties. Too many ifs and maybes. I have asked you questions you failed to answer but rather just repeated what I said, said if or maybe and threw the questions back to me. Word of advise.

*You said Christians are violent but you gave evidence for only White Christians. You have no supporting evidence to show that other Christians behave the same way. So until you give the same examples of Christians in Africa, Asia and Latin America your evidence will remain unique to Westerners only. For example, let's say regarding suicide bombings. I could give an example of Muslim suicide bombings by Arab Muslims, Asian Muslims, African Muslims, White Muslims etc. But I can't give an example of something that happens only in Arabia and say this is the characteristics of all Muslims.

Ha ha ha..
When you want examine the cause of any problem you have to deduce some assumptions, using the facts in hand...and for this case...it is historical facts that countries with christians are most violent people on earth..this is our starting point...

what causes that;religious might the cause that is why I use may be...because there might be other factors worth mentioning..however you did'nt point out are those factors...so far we discussing religion (christianity as the cause)..if you think there are other..the ball is yours play it..let me know..

As for mention the bibles verses...it does not matter..because my assumption is that "if you from christian country" you derive your moral value from the bible...which actually makes you most ot its belivers...most violent, arrogant, racist etc..so we deduce knowledge from what you eat you eat bible (garbage) you produce violent people...

unless you are dump in doing research

 

[MwanaFalsafa1]

Ha ha ha..
When you want examine the cause of any problem you have to deduce some assumptions, using the facts in hand...and for this case...it is historical facts that countries with christians are most violent people on earth..this is our starting point...



what causes that;religious might the cause that is why I use may be...because there might be other factors worth mentioning..however you did'nt point out are those factors...so far we discussing religion (christianity as the cause)..if you think there are other..the ball is yours play it..let me know..



As for mention the bibles verses...it does not matter..because my assumption is that "if you from christian country" you derive your moral value from the bible...which actually makes you most ot its belivers...most violent, arrogant, racist etc..so we deduce knowledge from what you eat you eat bible (garbage) you produce violent people...

You want a mention of other factors? It could history, tradition, politics, family values, origin and etc etc. All these affect a person's behavior. Need more possible factors? Lol.

Not all moral comes from religion. There are some people who religion is not even a factor in their lives. Sources of moral comes from parents. family, school etc etc. Hahaha and that about the Bible being gabbage lookin at how Muslims blow themselves up I wonder what that says about the kulani. considering your own prophet was a killer(fact).

 

[Tumain]

You want a mention of other factors? It could history, tradition, politics, family values, origin and etc etc. All these affect a person's behavior. Need more possible factors? Lol.

Not all moral comes from religion. There are some people who religion is not even a factor in their lives. Sources of moral comes from parents. family, school etc etc. Hahaha and that about the Bible being gabbage lookin at how Muslims blow themselves up I wonder what that says about the kulani. considering your own prophet was a killer(fact).

Good try, So this christians violent people happens to be violent because of history? because of origin?, tradition? family moral?...what affetcs all these factors in one way or another..what was the common denominator?

 

[MwanaFalsafa1]

Good try, So this christians violent people happens to be violent because of history? because of origin?, tradition? family moral?...what affetcs all these factors in one way or another..what was the common denominator?

Lol. O.k. let me go slow for you. If you say Tanzanians are of a certain trait or characteristics it means that trait must include a majority of Tanzanians including those of different parts of Tanzania. You can not say for example Tanzanians are tall if you have only looked at certain tribes which happen to have tall people. You can't come to that conclusion. You said Countries with majority Christians are violent but as a matter of fact you have given example of Westerners only. Are you getting this concept?

So to prove your point you must give evidence that all Christians are like that and not limiting yourself to one part of the world. And this is where the question arises of what caused the Westerners to do this. If you can't prove violence is a trait of all the majority countries with a majority of Christians around the world you can't say they are violent because they are Christians.


So you have given your hypothesis now show an example of other countries which have a majority Christian population outside Europe & America which resemble the same traits. If your hypothesis is correct it shouldn't be hard to do so.

 

[Tumain]

Lol. O.k. let me go slow for you. If you say Tanzanians are of a certain trait or characteristics it means that trait must include a majority of Tanzanians including those of different parts of Tanzania. You can not say for example Tanzanians are tall if you have only looked at certain tribes which happen to have tall people. You can't come to that conclusion. You said Countries with majority Christians are violent but as a matter of fact you have given example of Westerners only. Are you getting this concept?

So to prove your point you must give evidence that all Christians are like that and not limiting yourself to one part of the world. And this is where the question arises of what caused the Westerners to do this. If you can't prove violence is a trait of all the majority countries with a majority of Christians around the world you can't say they are violent because they are Christians.


So you have given your hypothesis now show an example of other countries which have a majority Christian population outside Europe & America which resemble the same traits. If your hypothesis is correct it shouldn't be hard to do so.

The thing is most countries with larger population of christians (at least in number of people) happens to be westerners...and therefore western countries is a representative sample if one is looking to christians behaviours and develop a generalized christian behaviour...in this violent..

so the conclusion that christians whom happens to be most violent comes from countries with majority christians using western countries is generally acceptable with minor limitation/

 

[Mzee2000]

To me, religions are number one evils if not bunch of childish stories. And in recent years, Islam has become even more evil. They are killing people in the name of their God. This is strange. What kind of God is that who would instruct his/her followers to kill people?

Kwa kupitia dini hizi, waarabu na wazungu waliitawala Afrika. Wakawatesa na kuwaua babu zetu. Wakachukua raslimali zetu kwa nguvu. Mababu zetu wakapelekwa utumwani kufanyishwa kazi bila ujira wowote. Katika hali ya kawaida, Waafrika tungekuwa ni watu tunaoongoza kwa kuchukia dini hizi. Surprisingly, tunajifanya tunazifahamu dini hizi kuliko hata hao waarabu na wazungu waliotuletea hizi dini. Kumbuka tulikuwa na dini zetu. This is insane. Na hii inadhihirisha waafrika ni watu wa ajabu kabisa. That said, ni bora hayo mataifa yanayoitwa ya kikristo [refer Tumain posts] yakawa na nguvu kuliko mataifa ya kiislamu. Waarabu [ambao wanaunda mataifa mengi ya kiislamu] hawaana maana. They are just so stupid! Na wamewaambukiza hata waislamu katika maeneo mengine duniani. They are not rational at all. If you don't believe what I am saying, you just wait and see responses by some to my post.

Sasa hapa wewe ndio wa kwanza kusema jambo hili,haya ni mambo ya ajabu sana,watu hao hao waliokuwa wanaimba praise the lord or allah akbar ndio walituchuka utumwani,wakawabaka wakinamama wetu, wakatuuza kama commodities na mpaka sasa wanatutawala kimawazo leo hii (ukienda kanisani utaona picha za yesu eti alikuwa mzungu yet the white men did not exist in the beggining of the world all people were black and african!)

Lakini la hasha waafrika tulikuwa na dini zetu kuanzia enzi za wamisri (soma ISIS na OSIRIS) wayahudi na wagiriki wakachukua hizi dini zetu kutoka misri wakazitwist na kuzikoroga halafu wakaturudishia.

Sasa ona hii brainwashing, mwisillamu kusali unaelekea Mecca,kuzikwa kaburi lako linaelekea huko huko, umefundishwa kumsujudu mwarabu na mila zake na kuchukia mila zako(ndio maada waafrika wengi hawajipendi), yet nwarabu anakuona wewe kama mbwa hata kama wewe ni mwislamu mwenzake.

Lakini ukiangalia kiundani wafuasi wa hizi dini nio watu waliofanya mabaya kuliko wote duniani, ndio maan nasema we better go back to our ancestral religions!!

 

[Mzee2000]

Mzee unaonyesha jinsi gani ulivyokuwa weak katika kufuatilia historia vizuri. Unakumbuka miaka ya karibuni mataifa ya ulaya pamoja na marekani walitakiwa kutoa "compasation" kwa mataifa ya Africa yaliyokumbwa na slave trade kwa kiasi kikubwa?

Kwa nini waarabu hawakuwepo kwenye hiko kikao na hatukusikia hata kutajwa na vyombo vya habari? amboa kwa itikadi ya wengi ndio waislam?

Elewa ni propaganda tuu kuwa waarabu ndio walikuwa wafanyabiashara wakubwa wa Slaves.

Kuwa muangalifu next time

Mimi simtetei mwarabu, mwarabu and his wretched religion has inflicted untold suffering on africans.Lakini ieleweke kuwa mtu mweupe alifaidika zaidi kwa utumwa kuliko mwarabu na mweupe alifanya utumwa kwa kiwangi kikubwa kuliko mwarabu.Wakati mwarabu anatumia watumwa kupolish viatu vyake, the white man aliwatumia kuzalisha mali kwenye cotton fields akajitolea utajili mkubwa .. yaani capitalism lakini ofcourse mwislamu ndiye alianza utumwa afrika.

The Pope was the most powerful spiritual leader in europe and he personally legitimized slavery all historians agree on this(usibishe ndugu yangu nitakumwagia data ukitaka), if the Pope condemmed slavery, we would not have the trans antractic slave trade which was and is still the biggest mass enslavement and explotation of the a people in the history of the world(arabs did not even came near this barbarity)

 

[Waberoya]

Weborya,
Still with all you have said...historic record shows that the most violent people comes/raised from christian countries why?

Dear Tumaini.

Thanks for your open mind in the thread you have just initiated.However our judgement are purely based on

1. The foundation of Muslim and Christian, believe me you can never have weak foundation and expects to have stable building.

2. Information we have.


Foundation of these religions

Tumaini what you have just mentioned is deniable truth by the facts that, there is no relation between those violences and Christian.There is no any Christian who says I am killing people because Bible says so, or because Jesus sent me to do so.

Having christian name does not warrant a christian faith! Those guys (name them) they have never ever mentioned that they did those killings under the umbrella of Christians.

Your Muslim(your name is not muslim) Suppose today you steal somewhere, people may simply say christian are thiefs, why? because Tumain did that!

That situation is even crucial in Tanzania we have Jumas , Mwanahamisi , Halima, Joseph, Mary,Jacquline, but most of them are neither Muslims nor that are christians!! unless you are telling names is actually makes you to be religion follower!

I repeat, hawa watu sio wakristo japo wana majina ya kikristo na pia nchi zao hazijajitangaza kuwa ni za kidini ya kikristo! kama Iraq, Iran, n.k may be Rome

In Islam killing someone will make you to see heaven, there are waiting seven virgins women!

Wha is in Quran

BOOK OF PEACE AND HONEST PRACTITIONERS

Two-tonques Tariq Ramadan---the most influential Muslim intellectial.


Information we have

We are judging according to information that we have! you can find information regarding USA, ENGLAND, GERMAN etc, because they are available.They document everything they do.Situation is different in Islamic regions like middle East, many things have been going on there no one reports! I came to know what SADDAM did during the war!, Before I new Saddam is actually a saint; the fact that he killed his own people using poisson shocked me.

You are aware of slave trade, how our forefathers were castrated; even today interaction of black and arab race is a dream!

What you dont know about muslim! not you!


(Islam requires killing of blasphemers and apostate)

HALAL SLAVE MARKETS
Islam allows sex with captured women and slave girls. During Islam's early days of Prophet Muhammad and his followers, slave-markets of Islamic capital were bursting at the seems with gorgeous captured women from all over the world as Islamic armies conquered half the known world in 100 years and captured thousands and thousands of beautiful women. Our prophet always got 20% of them and after sampling them once or twice gifted them to friends and relatives or sent them to the slave market.

A beauty from Egypt disrobed and ready to be sold

A Persian beauty disrobed for inspection
by potential Muslim buyers.

HALAL ONE-NIGHT STANDS (TEMPORARY MUTA MARRIAGE)
Islam (Quran 4:24) allows acquiring temporary wives with money. One does not have to be rich to cough up big bucks to buy a slave-girl and have fun. For a few bucks a poor man can also have fun with one or two women for a night.

HALAL HAREMS
Since Islam allows unlimited number of captured women and slave girls, many rich Muslim have large harems.

FUN FOR PEDOPHILES WITHOUT GUILT
Quran 65:4 allows sex with little girls:

Tumain, these people they hide simply because they are weak, what could have happened if one Islamic Country would have power like USA

KILLING FOR DRAWING MUHAMMAD'S CARTOONS
Punishment for drawing Muhammad's cartoons or naming any animal (or even an stuffed one like teddy-bear) Muhammad is death by beheading.

My take;from Bible point of view it says that ALL PEOPLE HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT A GLORY OF GOD!

WE ALL EQUALLY SINNER , WE HAVE FLESH , WILL AND EMOTION THAT MAY LEAD YOU TO DO ANYTHING.

THE ONLY WAY TO OVERCOME VIOLENCE IS LOVE, Christians preach love not by words! by doing, I can not kill people just by drawing Jesus Cartoon! HIS POSITION IF FAR MORE THAN KILLING SOMEONE, and no one fights for Jesus HE fight himself HE don't want help from anyone!!!

You may continue asking questions

 

[Zungu Pule]

Ha ha ha..
When you want examine the cause of any problem you have to deduce some assumptions, using the facts in hand...and for this case...it is historical facts that countries with christians are most violent people on earth..this is our starting point...

what causes that;religious might the cause that is why I use may be...because there might be other factors worth mentioning..however you did'nt point out are those factors...so far we discussing religion (christianity as the cause)..if you think there are other..the ball is yours play it..let me know..

As for mention the bibles verses...it does not matter..because my assumption is that "if you from christian country" you derive your moral value from the bible...which actually makes you most ot its belivers...most violent, arrogant, racist etc..so we deduce knowledge from what you eat you eat bible (garbage) you produce violent people...

unless you are dump in doing research

They are just not rational! [Refer my earlier post]

 

[Ngalikihinja]

Nashangaa na kusikitishwa, Baada ya kutafiti historia ya vita na uvamizi kupta kutokea duniani kwa zaidi ya miaka 1,700 iliyopita nimegundua kwamba “vita vyote vimeanzishwa na mataifa yanayojiita mataifa ya kikiristo. duniani.

The most deadly were the so called

1. Hundred years War,
2. The Thirty Five Years War,
3. WW1 and WW2

All fought in Europe and wiping out tens of millions of people. Add to those the US invasion of Vietnam and resulting 3,000,000 Vietnamese deaths and now the current invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

In fact I cannot find a time when the same nations were not at war somewhere. Why do you think it is that these so called Christian people are so violent? I am curious.

Hivi hayo ni mataifa ya kikristo au yenye wakristo wengi...???? US inatawaliwa kikristo........????

 

[Tumain]

Hivi hayo ni mataifa ya kikristo au yenye wakristo wengi...???? US inatawaliwa kikristo........????

Haya ni mataifa yenye wakristo wengi..hayo mataifa ndio wametokea kuwa na most violent, arrogant, racist in the world..why?

 

[Tumain]

Weborya,
My take;from Bible point of view it says that ALL PEOPLE HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT A GLORY OF GOD!

WE ALL EQUALLY SINNER , WE HAVE FLESH , WILL AND EMOTION THAT MAY LEAD YOU TO DO ANYTHING.

THE ONLY WAY TO OVERCOME VIOLENCE IS LOVE, Christians preach love not by words! by doing, I can not kill people just by drawing Jesus Cartoon! HIS POSITION IF FAR MORE THAN KILLING SOMEONE, and no one fights for Jesus HE fight himself HE don't want help from anyone!!!
Swali kwa weborya!

Kwakuwa watu wote ni sinners ndio maana hizo nchi zenye wakristo wengi ndio zimetokea kuwa na most violent, arrogant, racist, people on earth?

 

[Babylon]

Dear Tumaini.

Thanks for your open mind in the thread you have just initiated.However our judgement are purely based on

1. The foundation of Muslim and Christian, believe me you can never have weak foundation and expects to have stable building.

2. Information we have.


Foundation of these religions

Tumaini what you have just mentioned is deniable truth by the facts that, there is no relation between those violences and Christian.There is no any Christian who says I am killing people because Bible says so, or because Jesus sent me to do so.

Having christian name does not warrant a christian faith! Those guys (name them) they have never ever mentioned that they did those killings under the umbrella of Christians.

Your Muslim(your name is not muslim) Suppose today you steal somewhere, people may simply say christian are thiefs, why? because Tumain did that!

That situation is even crucial in Tanzania we have Jumas , Mwanahamisi , Halima, Joseph, Mary,Jacquline, but most of them are neither Muslims nor that are christians!! unless you are telling names is actually makes you to be religion follower!

I repeat, hawa watu sio wakristo japo wana majina ya kikristo na pia nchi zao hazijajitangaza kuwa ni za kidini ya kikristo! kama Iraq, Iran, n.k may be Rome

In Islam killing someone will make you to see heaven, there are waiting seven virgins women!

Wha is in Quran

BOOK OF PEACE AND HONEST PRACTITIONERS

Two-tonques Tariq Ramadan---the most influential Muslim intellectial.


Information we have

We are judging according to information that we have! you can find information regarding USA, ENGLAND, GERMAN etc, because they are available.They document everything they do.Situation is different in Islamic regions like middle East, many things have been going on there no one reports! I came to know what SADDAM did during the war!, Before I new Saddam is actually a saint; the fact that he killed his own people using poisson shocked me.

You are aware of slave trade, how our forefathers were castrated; even today interaction of black and arab race is a dream!

What you dont know about muslim! not you!


(Islam requires killing of blasphemers and apostate)

HALAL SLAVE MARKETS
Islam allows sex with captured women and slave girls. During Islam's early days of Prophet Muhammad and his followers, slave-markets of Islamic capital were bursting at the seems with gorgeous captured women from all over the world as Islamic armies conquered half the known world in 100 years and captured thousands and thousands of beautiful women. Our prophet always got 20% of them and after sampling them once or twice gifted them to friends and relatives or sent them to the slave market.

A beauty from Egypt disrobed and ready to be sold

A Persian beauty disrobed for inspection
by potential Muslim buyers.

HALAL ONE-NIGHT STANDS (TEMPORARY MUTA MARRIAGE)
Islam (Quran 4:24) allows acquiring temporary wives with money. One does not have to be rich to cough up big bucks to buy a slave-girl and have fun. For a few bucks a poor man can also have fun with one or two women for a night.

HALAL HAREMS
Since Islam allows unlimited number of captured women and slave girls, many rich Muslim have large harems.

FUN FOR PEDOPHILES WITHOUT GUILT
Quran 65:4 allows sex with little girls:

Tumain, these people they hide simply because they are weak, what could have happened if one Islamic Country would have power like USA

KILLING FOR DRAWING MUHAMMAD'S CARTOONS
Punishment for drawing Muhammad's cartoons or naming any animal (or even an stuffed one like teddy-bear) Muhammad is death by beheading.

My take;from Bible point of view it says that ALL PEOPLE HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT A GLORY OF GOD!

WE ALL EQUALLY SINNER , WE HAVE FLESH , WILL AND EMOTION THAT MAY LEAD YOU TO DO ANYTHING.

THE ONLY WAY TO OVERCOME VIOLENCE IS LOVE, Christians preach love not by words! by doing, I can not kill people just by drawing Jesus Cartoon! HIS POSITION IF FAR MORE THAN KILLING SOMEONE, and no one fights for Jesus HE fight himself HE don't want help from anyone!!!

You may continue asking questions

wake up your mind !!!

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[Babylon]

Waislamu huwa mnachekesha sana siku zote. Hivi ukiondoa Vatican ambayo ni typical Catholic state kuna taifa linaloitwa taifa la Kikristo duniani? Hivi tangu lini Marekani, Urusi, Ujerumani, Uingereza and the co. yakaitwa mataifa ya Kikristo duniani? Nani aliyekudanganya wewe Tumaini? Hujuwi kuwa mataifa haya yamesheheni wapagani na waabuudu dini za shetani?

Tukiliacha hilo, hivi kuna dini inayochochea ghasia dunia kama dini ya uislamu? Na matokeo yake tunayaona duniani kote leo hii. Dunia sasa si salama na watu wanahofia usalama wao kila mahali kwa sababu ya dini inayoitwa uislamu. Bila uislamu dunia ingekuwa mahali salama kabisa pa kuishi. Lakini leo hakuna amani kisa, kuwepo kwa dini inayoitwa uislamu.

Mnara huo .wakristo wakweli ndio mnawasikia hao.
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Hii ineonesha jinsi gani watoto weusi waliokuwemo ndani ya chuchu walivyopigwa moto wakiwa wanasoma Bible .anyway ukipenda chongo unita makengeza ,endleni hivyo hivyo

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[Babylon]

Give us some tangible and impeccable exhibits to support your vendetta and/or fisticuffs fracas.

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[Tumain]

babylon,
Asante we will prove bit by bit that...the most violent, arrogant, racist, and cruel people on earth happens to be from countries with large christians population.

 

[Waberoya]

Weborya,
My take;from Bible point of view it says that ALL PEOPLE HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT A GLORY OF GOD!

WE ALL EQUALLY SINNER , WE HAVE FLESH , WILL AND EMOTION THAT MAY LEAD YOU TO DO ANYTHING.

THE ONLY WAY TO OVERCOME VIOLENCE IS LOVE, Christians preach love not by words! by doing, I can not kill people just by drawing Jesus Cartoon! HIS POSITION IF FAR MORE THAN KILLING SOMEONE, and no one fights for Jesus HE fight himself HE don't want help from anyone!!!
Swali kwa weborya!

Kwakuwa watu wote ni sinners ndio maana hizo nchi zenye wakristo wengi ndio zimetokea kuwa na most violent, arrogant, racist, people on earth?

Tumain, labda kama unataka tubishane sawa, ila kama tunataka kuelimishana lazima tuwe na basis ya argument zetu

1. Nimesema biblia inasema watu wote wametenda dhambi na kupungukiwa na utukufu wa Mungu.Kwa kusema hivi hakuna mwanadamu anayeweza kumnyooshea mkono mwingine kuwa ni mtu mbaya kabisa(wote tunahitaji tiba because we are equally the same before God)

Kwa kusema hivi ndio Yesu akaja kwa ajili ya ukombozi wa watu woote ukiwamo wewe.

2. Nikakueleza pia si kila mwenye jina la Uislam ni mwislamu wala mwenye Jina la Kikristo ni Mkristo! ili kuepuka unafiki waislamu na wakristo wa kweli ni wachache sana kuliko udhaniavyo , Tanzani wakiwemo.wale haswaa wanaofuata dini zao.

3. Kuja kwenye argument zako, Dini hizi mbili , kutoka kwenye maandiko nimekueleza Uislamu unaeneza violence( nikakupa ni asilimia ngapi ya text kwenye Quran zinaeleza hivyo). Cha ajabu ni kuwa unataka kusema waislamu wengi basi sio waislamu kwa sababu wanaeneza ni watu wa amani wakati dini yao inahimiza na kueneza chuki! LOL!
Ajabu nyingine unataka kutuaminisha kuwa wale wakristo(wa kweli) they are so violence wakati biblia yao haihimizi hivyo! huoni hapa kuna confusion

So either you should refine your argument, just say non-islami countries are not violence! wengine tupata picha kuwa wanaobaki wenye dini zingine ndio violence.KWA LEVEL yako ya elimu ni kichekesho kikubwa kusema Wamarekani ni taifa la kikristo wakati 98% ya marais wao ni freemesons!!! rais wa kwanza wa dini tofauti- Kennedy alipata sana shida kupata cheo na unajua kilichompata.

Hypothesis of your study was wrong from beginning, kwenye biblia hayo mataifa unayoyaita wakristo ndio tunaowajua kuwa ni WAPINGA KRISTO!! kwa hiyo hapa inaonyesha elimu yako kuhusu ukristo na biblia iko shallow!!!

Nijuavyo binadamu wote wabaya ndugu na Yesu amekuja kutubadilisha.China hawana Uislam wala Ukristo ni makatili sana, nenda russia the same story.

Afrika dini hizi zimekuja baadae, kwa hiyo ukristo ulipoingia tu watu wakawa violence?? can you prove before that Afrika hatukuwa vioelence??

Nipe shule baba