Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[ERoni]

It's now RU vs US+UK+EU!

 

[Kilimbatz]

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Dutch newspaper NRC: Police in Sweden and Norway uncovered a large network of sex workers, most of whom are Ukrainians. Moreover, for the first time, Ukrainian prostitutes outnumbered the Romanians. The publication notes that this is just the tip of the iceberg, and the current schemes for accepting Ukrainian refugees in Europe contribute to their sexual exploitation.

Acha noende huko nikajivunie mtoto wa kiukraine?

 

[Sigonella Island]

Muulize zelensk anao..leo kalalamika kuliko kawaida..kumbe makamanda wake wa ngazi za juu "wamevunwa"...

Usijichangane ukamgusa Russia mbupu [emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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[EINSTEIN112]

🇺🇦 At least 23 people were killed when a Russian cruise missile hit a building in the Ukraine city of #Vinnytsia.

Moscow says the attack was directed at a building where top army officials were meeting foreign arms suppliers.

Kyiv denies any military target was hit.

📸 Valentyn Ogirenko/Reuters

 

[Sigonella Island]

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[Grand Master]

Acha noende huko nikajivunie mtoto wa kiukraine?

Mkuu twende nikupeleke,

 

[MR MAJANGA]

"Winter horror is coming to Europe"

The Economist predicts an icy horror for the EU during next winter.
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Waambie wajiandae kama bongo hivi kwao kutakuwaje????🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Waambie wakapige goti Kwa Putin ili maisha yasinge

 

[MR MAJANGA]

My source

Do you want to know what the world thinks about the war in Ukraine? Position of world leaders and political tendencies in Washington or in Beijing, Brussels and London?

Who really helps Ukraine, and who sabotages and why?

Telegram channel Media_Post will show and explain the world's top headlines! Actual news of the world media about Ukraine.

Concisely, objectively, concretely!

MediaPost

Все об Украине в иностранных СМИ, подписывайся и будь в курсе международных новостей.

t.me

Mkuu mbona nimeingia nakutana na kirusi tupu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hebu nipe maujanja maana nimetafuta sehemu ya translate sijaiona, au inabidi niikopi halafu kinaitranslate???

 

[ngaboru]

Aaaaah shangazi leo una nini kipenzi chetu? Mbona hii si kawaida yako.

Ona Urusi yasemekana kapeleka wanajeshi kati ya 150,000 hadi 250,000. (Hizi taarifa wamezisema west)

Ukubwa wa jeshi la Russia ni jumla ya kama 1,350,000. (Kiufundi Sasa hii ndio tunaita Data in term of figures, ambayo ndio basic ya reasoning juu ya kile kilichosemwa)

Kauli ya 18% imetolewa Urusi, na baadhi ya wataalamu wa mambo ya kivita walilisema hilo.

Tukitafuta 18% ya 1,350,000 ni 243,000.

243,000 ni jibu linalozijibu hoja zote 2, ya west kua Urusi wamepeleka wanajeshi kati ya 150,000 hadi 250,000. Vile vile inajibu ama kushahabiana na kile urusi wana dai kwamba wametumia 18% ya nguvu la jeshi lao.

Sasa shangazi huoni kama madai yako ya kusema 18% ni uongo hayana msingi wowote? Ni madai ambayo yamejaa hisia za kudanganywa ila sio kweli?

Issue ya jana ya kaka Mathanzua, kitendo cha kusema kua hizo data katika figures sio sahihi maana yake alikuwa na data(facts) ambazo alizitumia kama msingi wa madai yake.

Sasa hapo shangazi huoni kama kusema wako nje ya point wale walio-omba basic reference (facts) zake ndugu Mathanzua hauko sawa?

Na mimi niseme ni miongoni mwa watu tunao fatilia mazungumzo yenu na Galip Vrl

Alicho kiona Grand Master ni sawa na kile nachokiona baina yenu. Data ni facts na statistics ambazo hutumiwa kwa lengo kubwa la kufanya analysis ama references.

Hizo facts na statistics are not merely kwamba ni figures (number). Mfano mtu anakwambia sim yako imedukuliwa data. Maana yake ni kua imedukuliwa taarifa zako.

"Figures" zinaweza kua kijisehem katika hizo taarifa. Figures ni moja y aina za Data.

So na mie naungana na wale kusema kua walioomba data walikuwa sahihi, hawakua OP.

Hapa naona kama wenzangu, nyie wawili kila mmoja ana maana yake kuhusu data. Lakini mtambue mwenye maana sahihi ya data ndie aliye sawa kwenye hoja zenu.

Maana ya Data (Nje ya itumikavyo katika technology) ⚡Things known or assumed as facts, making the basis of reasoning or calculation.

Jana Kaka Mathanzua alichemka kwenye kujitetea hilo halina ubishi. Na hadi sasa hakuna aliye tetea hoja yake zaidi ya kuhamisha magoli.

Ajabu upande ulio hamishiwa magoli unapwaya, hizo 18% jana niliziona ingawa sikutaka kulisemea. Na leo umeirudia lakini sio hoja yenye mashiko. Inajibika saaana tu kama mtu yupo more detailed unless not.

Naungana na wengine kuwapongeza kwa mjadala wenu! Muendelee hivi hivi hakika inapendeza. Mtu akisema ndio atoe sababu, na akisema hapana atoe sababu. Inaongeza sana uwezo wa kufikiri.

Ngoja nikupe mukhtasari.

Picha linaanza Mathanzua kuna post ilipostiwa ila yeye akasema ni uongo (data)

Hiyo post haikua na mambo ya 40b au 18%.

Ilikua ni mambo ya
(wanajeshi 50,ndege saba,vifaru 10 naona uvivu kuitafuta)kuonyesha kimepotea kipi mpaka sasa hapo tuu.(kipeperushi flan jackal anapenda kukipost sanaa) kama unaweza kukipata unaweza kukiattach.

Galip Vrl na mwenzie wakasema "no data no right to speak"

Mimi nikajibu ila katika engo ya kumsaport Mathanzua ila sina data zozote ni kutokana na post tuu.

blablaa zangu ( 18%,kauli ya Madvedve pamoja na kisinga,black market nikagusia pia) nikasema figa zinaweza kua kubwa zaidi ila Russia hasemi ukizingatia alivyozungukwa na maadui wengi(defense mechanism)

Akaja Grand Master na blablaa( 40b$ na nyingine ambazo azitangazwi,black market,akionyesha msaada ni mkubwa ila figure ni ndogo( Russia analinda status ya OP)

M sikuona shida kwa sisi wote wawili (kubwa au ndogo) ambao conclusion yake ni kwamba uko field ndio wanajua ukweli.

Galip Vrl akaja kumpa tag kwamba kaeleza vizuri mi sina tatizo ila alivyosema kubwa ni uongo na 😏juuu😂😂😂

Nikarudi mzigoni huyu jamaa vip (iwe kubwa au ndogo) hakuna data zozote zilizotumika kumsaport ameshajisahau yy msimamo wake ni upi ndio yakaendelea yaliyoendelea.

Gafla tena Grand Master kaja na uchambuzi kupitia battle yangu na galip ila kama vile mm sijaelewa data ilhali galip amekubali point yake bila suport ya data.

Na mimi msimamo wangu ni hivii siziamini data za kimedani kwa fact izi apa.

Ntatumia mfano.

Ilipoanza OP tuliambiwa ni wanajeshi 150k ila mpaka sasa tunapokea takwimu za majeruhi,waliokua,mateka n.k.hapo tuu.

Ivi shoigu alishawai kusema bado tuko na 150 despite izo casualties maana kuna wanaopewa off pia.
Kwangu data ni kitu complex na ni siri ambayo inalindwa na hao mambwana kwa sababu wanazozijua wao.

😂😂😂😂😂 jibu moja tuu nataka kuhusiana na hili saga la mtu tatu mimi na hao nani wanajichanganya( ni wazi wote tumetoka kwenye msingi mkuu (data))

Kati yangu na Grand Master hakuna data zilipotumika ila mtu kwa ridhaa yake kachagua upande alafu mimi ndio naonekana niko nje ya script.

Na mbaya zaidi aliyejichanganya hajui kama kajichanganya kwamba data ndio zitoe jibu kwa jinsi alivyotaka toka kwa Mathanzua na sio blablaa zangu na Grand master.

 

[Kilimbatz]

My source

Do you want to know what the world thinks about the war in Ukraine? Position of world leaders and political tendencies in Washington or in Beijing, Brussels and London?

Who really helps Ukraine, and who sabotages and why?

Telegram channel Media_Post will show and explain the world's top headlines! Actual news of the world media about Ukraine.

Concisely, objectively, concretely!

MediaPost

Все об Украине в иностранных СМИ, подписывайся и будь в курсе международных новостей.

t.me

Mkuu naomba link za makundi mengine

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Ivi haya machuma chuma(M777 howitzer) ya Marekani si bora wangetupa sisi tu maana naona yanateketea tu

 

[Grand Master]

Mkuu mbona nimeingia nakutana na kirusi tupu [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] hebu nipe maujanja maana nimetafuta sehemu ya translate sijaiona, au inabidi niikopi halafu kinaitranslate???

Mkuu telegram ina translation, no need to copy mkuu.

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Ukraine imeuza HIMARS huko kwa $800,000 [emoji23][emoji23][emoji1316][emoji1316]

 

[Grand Master]

Mkuu naomba link za makundi mengine

Наблюдатель

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[ngaboru]

Nadhani wakuu huo mjadala hapo juu mngeufunga tu, maana issue ni mtazamo tu.

Ila wote mpo sahihi, mtazamo ndio mnatofautiana.

Tumpe pia hongera Iron Lady Ngaboru.

Unakuaga wapi kunipa shavu🤩🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍itabidi nianze kampeni ili nipate wapambe wa kunishangilia.

Kuna vitu tunabishana mpaka unaanza kujiona genius hata kama haupewi tag.

Majibu mawili (kubwa / ndogo) conclusion ni uhalisia wanao huko field.

Huu ni mjadala hauna jibu moja lililosahaihi ila ni opinions tuu so mwenzako akiona nyeusi we ukaona nyeupe inamaanisha mko sawa kwenye level moja ya utambuzi ( rangi)

Parata atakubishia nyeupe ndio yenyewe wakati mwisho wa siku jibu ni rangi sema uko kwenye engo hipi.

 

[Sigonella Island]

Ivi haya machuma chuma(M777 howitzer) ya Marekani si bora wangetupa sisi tu maana naona yanateketea tu View attachment 2291879View attachment 2291880

Safi agiza whisky umwagilie moyo mi na umwagilia moyo [emoji41][emoji41]

 

[Final Boss]

GOOD NEWS 😌

🇷🇺🇰🇷 South Korea has started accepting Mir cards. Purchases can be paid in BC Card payment system devices.

This was reported in the technical support of the Russian company.

▪️BC Card is the largest payment processing company in South Korea, which serves more than 3 million sellers.

 

[ngaboru]

Kingine nilichokiona hapa ni kua mtu akiwa appreciated anapanda hadhi.

Hapaswi kuchalenjiwa ndio anajuaga tayari imeisha hiyo😂😂😂sasa tutakua tuna sifu na kuabudu alafu kwenye masinagogi tubishane kwa fact.

NB.
Sijakech ni mtazamo tuu.
Hapa ni sehemu ya burudani pia 👍👍😂😂😂.

 

[Grand Master]

Warusi weusiiiiiiii,