Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Champagnee said:
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Huwa vijana hawa wanatia kinyaa sana. Hajui hata historia na Geography ya dunia anakuja kubwabwaja tu.
Iran (Persia, Achaemenid, Median Empire, Lydia) Kama mtu huyo ni mkristo atakuwa hajui hata biblia. Ndanj ya biblia Iran imeongelewa sana.
Kuna wafalme:-

Darius, Ahasuerus nk.
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Pietro said:
Mkuu Marekani wana program Yao inaitwa FME (Foreign Material Exploitation), wanadaka zana za adui (hasa Urusi) wanazisoma na kuzifanyia mazoezi ili ikitokea siku wamekutana nazo kwenye uwanja wa mapambano wajue jinsi gani wanazimaliza. Haijalishi hiyo zana ni mbaya au nzuri.

The TTF remains relevant today in part because so many Soviet-era air-defense systems or aircraft remain in use around the world. U.S. forces responding to conflicts or crises, even in what are considered low-threat environments, could potentially face some of these older systems as non-state actors such as terrorist groups have been known to acquire and use older air defense systems. The "Petting Zoo" is just one — and probably the most public — element of a far larger enemy hardware familiarization ecosystem, much of which remains draped under a shroud of secrecy.

Foreign materiel exploitation, or FME, allows U.S. forces to train on actual threat-representative systems to look for potential vulnerabilities and get acquainted with these foreign military capabilities under real-world conditions. Some of these foreign-made systems are also often used in Red Flag and other exercises to provide enhanced realism alongside simulated adversary forces. There is also a reverse engineering and deep technological exploitation aspect to some FME activities.


While the full list of the assets being moved at Nellis is interesting on its own, it's not as if these systems were a big secret once the facility was declassified. In fact, they sit out in the open and are viewable on Google Maps, and tours of the facility are provided to VIPs and those who could find it operationally beneficial. Still, seeing them listed out along with the size and weight of each piece of equipment offers a new comprehensive overview of the wide range of foreign materiel at the base.

An overhead view of the facility available on Google Maps., Google Maps
While the Petting Zoo at Nellis provided familiarity to a number of threats, many of which are now dated, far more modern foreign systems exist in U.S. hands and are trained against and tested in highly secure locales. It's probable that this new facility, which appears to offer a large enclosed display space, will display a new generation of potential adversary weapons, including those from China.


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AZFelix
36w ago

Some of these seem familiar. Back in the early 90's after the dissolution of the CCCP, I was able to spend some time with the visiting Ukrainian flyers at the London, ON airshow. This was during the evening when they were finishing up thei...See more

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James Goodwin
36w ago

I recall a few years ago. Or perhaps a decade ago there was an online post about aircraft in the petting zoo at Nellie and there was a Mig-29 and Mig-23 inside hangars in the Petting Zoo. The other aircraft displayed outdoors to the eleme...See more

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dubois2
36w ago

I went here once.. It was so fun to target the jets passing by with the old soviet AA guns.

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36w ago

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Richard: Peppers arrived and I thank you again for your gift!! Happy New Year to you, sir. It is my hope you received my email as well.

Blessings to you and your family. Stay safe. Stay WARM....See more

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gonein60seconds
36w ago

Can we replicate "Petting Zoo" for other bases to use:
Camp Pendalton, Nellis AFB, Quantico VA, Miami, Yuma, Sacramento? Pearl Harbor

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Hivi mbona mnadanganywa sana?? Hivi unaichukulia Russia poa sana mdogo wangu. Katika tech Russia yuko mbali sana ya US na uzuri Russia anajitegemea kwenye tech zake kamuacha US mbali sana hasa za kivita.

Kama ana hizo program anasubir nini kuingia moscow??? Kwanini anakataza mataifa mengine yasitumie S-400 ya mrussi??

Kuna Warship ya US inaitwa USS donald cook tuliamininishwa ina aegis combating system za kisasa na walijitapa sana lakin ilizimwa na kitu kidogo tu hii ni electronic warfare “khibiny US anavyosema hataki direct war na Russia hatanii maana anajua hawezi kupumua Mrussi ni dude kubwa endeleeni kulishwa matangopori.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]



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Neither Moscow nor Beijing are seeking to rule the world – unlike some other countries, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said.

“In implementing their bilateral relations, Russia and China do not lay claim to ruling the whole world,” he told Russia’s Rossiya 1 channel on Sunday. However, “we know that some other countries have this tendency,” he added.

Moscow and Beijing also have “absolute similarity” in their views regarding “all sorts of provocative actions” by the US, according to President Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson. He added that both countries consider Washington’s “destabilizing behavior” to be “unacceptable.”

Here’s the real reason that the US wants to sanction China

The remark comes shortly after Putin met with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping in Uzbekistan’s Samarkand as part of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit last week.

The Russian head of state said Moscow “highly appreciates China’s balanced position on the Ukraine crisis,” adding that the Kremlin “understands China’s concerns.”

President Xi, in turn, thanked Moscow for its stance on the issue of Taiwan – an apparent reference to Russia’s condemnation of US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to the island last month.

Unlike most Western countries, China has not imposed sanctions on Russia in response to its military operation in Ukraine, maintaining a good rapport with the Kremlin
 
Pietro said:
Kaka hii ni fake news 100%, na Leo nakushauri tena tafuta source nyingine hii ya sasa unayochukua habari haina tofauti na Yeriko Nyerere

Hapo wanasema Russia wanasonga mbele Kupiansk, Kupiansk ipi?!,wakati yote ipo mikononi mwa Ukraine pamoja na Izium yote (zote zipo chini ya Ukraine). Na Leo Ukraine imezidi kusonga mbele zaidi wamevuka Oskill river wanaelekea kwenye mapambano ili waikomboe Lyman.
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Nipe evidence yako
 
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Neither Moscow nor Beijing are seeking to rule the world – unlike some other countries, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said.

“In implementing their bilateral relations, Russia and China do not lay claim to ruling the whole world,” he told Russia’s Rossiya 1 channel on Sunday. However, “we know that some other countries have this tendency,” he added.

Moscow and Beijing also have “absolute similarity” in their views regarding “all sorts of provocative actions” by the US, according to President Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson. He added that both countries consider Washington’s “destabilizing behavior” to be “unacceptable.”

Here’s the real reason that the US wants to sanction China

The remark comes shortly after Putin met with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping in Uzbekistan’s Samarkand as part of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit last week.

The Russian head of state said Moscow “highly appreciates China’s balanced position on the Ukraine crisis,” adding that the Kremlin “understands China’s concerns.”

President Xi, in turn, thanked Moscow for its stance on the issue of Taiwan – an apparent reference to Russia’s condemnation of US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to the island last month.

Unlike most Western countries, China has not imposed sanctions on Russia in response to its military operation in Ukraine, maintaining a good rapport with the Kremlin
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Biden anakiwaona hawa WANAUME tumbo la kuhara lazima limshike
 
Champagnee said:
Hivi mbona mnadanganywa sana?? Hivi unaichukulia Russia poa sana mdogo wangu. Katika tech Russia yuko mbali sana ya US na uzuri Russia anajitegemea kwenye tech zake kamuacha US mbali sana hasa za kivita.

Kama ana hizo program anasubir nini kuingia moscow??? Kwanini anakataza mataifa mengine yasitumie S-400 ya mrussi??

Kuna Warship ya US inaitwa USS donald cook tuliamininishwa ina aegis combating system za kisasa na walijitapa sana lakin ilizimwa na kitu kidogo tu hii ni electronic warfare “khibiny US anavyosema hataki direct war na Russia hatanii maana anajua hawezi kupumua Mrussi ni dude kubwa endeleeni kulishwa matangopori.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]



jamestown.org

Russia’s Advances in Electronic Warfare Capability - Jamestown

Since the reform of Russia’s Armed Forces began in late 2008, Moscow has developed a credible conventional military capability. Among the subset of capabilities over the past decade are the critically important advances in combat support offered by Electronic Warfare (EW) (see EDM, April 17...
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Russia yupo mbali ya US lakini cha ajabu huo umbali wake hatuuoni kwenye uwanja wa Vita pale Ukraine tena Ukraine ikiwa na silaha za zamani toka Marekani.

Air defense systems za Russia zimeshindwa kabisa kuzuia vikombora dhaifu kama M31 za Himars. AGM 88 HARM zinabomoa Rada za Urusi mpaka kufanya ndege za Ukraine kuanza tena mashambulizi halafu Leo unatuambia Yuko mbali ya USA?! Seriously?!

Hiyo habari ya Donald cook ni fake news ambayo ilianzishwa na vyombo vya habari vya Urusi na Marekani ilisha itolea ufafanuzi! Hivi kama hiyo Khibiny inaweza kuzima Meli nzima kwanini isizime vikombora vya Ukraine,juzi hapa nilipost picha ya Su-30 imetunguliwa Kharkiv ikiwa na huo mfumo WA Khibiny ambao Ukraine waliondoka nao baadae,sasa kwann hiyo ndege haikuzuia hiyo ant aircraft missile Kwa kuijam?!

Moskva ilizamishwa Kwa Makombora ya Ukraine huo mfumo ulikua wapi kujam hayo Makombora?! Achana na propaganda za Urusi kubrand silaha zao kwenye TV na magwaride lkn zikija kwenye battlefield zinakalishwa,Israel kila siku inaingia na kutoka Syria kama chooni lakini air defenses za Urusi zipo tu!

Bayraktar drones zimelipua Mifumo ya Ulinzi ya Pantsir kuanzia Armenia, Syria,Libya,Ukraine...
 
Champagnee said:
Hivi mbona mnadanganywa sana?? Hivi unaichukulia Russia poa sana mdogo wangu. Katika tech Russia yuko mbali sana ya US na uzuri Russia anajitegemea kwenye tech zake kamuacha US mbali sana hasa za kivita.

Kama ana hizo program anasubir nini kuingia moscow??? Kwanini anakataza mataifa mengine yasitumie S-400 ya mrussi??

Kuna Warship ya US inaitwa USS donald cook tuliamininishwa ina aegis combating system za kisasa na walijitapa sana lakin ilizimwa na kitu kidogo tu hii ni electronic warfare “khibiny US anavyosema hataki direct war na Russia hatanii maana anajua hawezi kupumua Mrussi ni dude kubwa endeleeni kulishwa matangopori.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]



jamestown.org

Russia’s Advances in Electronic Warfare Capability - Jamestown

Since the reform of Russia’s Armed Forces began in late 2008, Moscow has developed a credible conventional military capability. Among the subset of capabilities over the past decade are the critically important advances in combat support offered by Electronic Warfare (EW) (see EDM, April 17...
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Russia’s claims about harming the Donald Cook are false,” said Jorge Benitez, director of NATOSource and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Brent Scowcroft Center on International Security. “The Russian fighter jet was unarmed and there is no evidence that it damaged the U.S. ship in any way.”

During the incident, a Russian Su-24 buzzed the USS Donald Cook within 300 meters for some 90 minutes. A video shot from the ship shows that the Russian aircraft had neither external weapons hanging under the wings or fuselage, nor any external pods essential to house the electronics that Vesti claims it used against the Cook.

The U.S. Navy also says there was no damage to the destroyer. In an email response to VOA's Polygraph.info website, the Navy wrote, that on April 12, 2014, a Russian SU-24 indeed “made numerous close-range and low altitude passes” over the USS Donald Cook in international waters in the Black Sea.

The Navy described the Russian action as “unsafe and unprofessional” adding that “the [the Russian] aircraft did not respond to multiple queries from the Donald Cook. The event ended without incident after approximately 90 minutes, and the ship continued without impact on its original tasking.”

Benitez believes that the Russian media produces false stories of this kind “to cover up the weaknesses of the Russian military.”

While the Russians failed to “intimidate the Donald Cook,” the expert said the incident was connected to Russia’s actions in Ukraine in 2014.

“The original lies about this non-existent electromagnetic wonder weapon appeared in 2014 during Russia’s attacks against Ukraine,” Benitez said. “The Donald Cook was the first U.S warship into the Black Sea after Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea and Putin’s media seems to have wanted a story of acting tough against the presence of the American military so close to the crisis area. Thus, they fabricated this story of disabling the electronic systems of a U.S. warship.”

Stephen Blank, an analyst at the American Foreign Policy Council, said the story about the Russian “wonder weapon” is “a standard Russian propaganda trick to disseminate false articles” meant to “impress audiences with Russian military-technological might
 
Jesus Mlokozi said:
Huwa vijana hawa wanatia kinyaa sana. Hajui hata historia na Geography ya dunia anakuja kubwabwaja tu.
Iran (Persia, Achaemenid, Median Empire, Lydia) Kama mtu huyo ni mkristo atakuwa hajui hata biblia. Ndanj ya biblia Iran imeongelewa sana.
Kuna wafalme:-

Darius, Ahasuerus nk.
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Ukipenda kujifariji kwa kutuletea takwimu kutoka List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, sawa.
Ila jaribu kusoma jedwali inayoleta data kutoka vyanzo vitatu: IMF, UM, World Bank.
Ona hapa
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Iran ni ajabu katika jedwali hii kwa sababu ni nchi ya pekee ambako data ziko tofauti kabisa. Kwa nini? Soma tanbihi chini, inasema IMF inatumia exchange rate iliyo rasmi Iran - lakini hii ni ndoto, pesa ya Iran iko duni mno ingawa serikali inajaribu kuificha na kutangaza tofauti. Ukitumia data za World Bank, Iran si nafasi ya 14 duniani, bali nafasi ya 55.
Sababu ni ule udikteta maalum katika Iran ambako upande moja serikali, upande mwingine taasisi zilizopo mkononi mwa akina Khamenei zinatawala sehemu kubwa ya uchumi.
Ile exchange rate ya ajabu (inayoopeleka Iran kwa na. 14) inawasaidia tu hao watu wachache (na marafiki wa kiongozi mkuu) wanaopata USDollar kwa bei nafuu maana unahitaji kibali. Wote wengine wananunua dollar kwenye soko huru ambako rate ni tofauti kabisa.
 
Jesus Mlokozi said:
Huwa vijana hawa wanatia kinyaa sana. Hajui hata historia na Geography ya dunia anakuja kubwabwaja tu.
Iran (Persia, Achaemenid, Median Empire, Lydia) Kama mtu huyo ni mkristo atakuwa hajui hata biblia. Ndanj ya biblia Iran imeongelewa sana.
Kuna wafalme:-

Darius, Ahasuerus nk.
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Imagine inakamata nafasi ya 14 kwa GDP despite kuandamwa kote huko miaka kenda rudi na vikwazo juu ya vikwazo. Lau kungekua na fair competition kwenye international sphere angekuwa wapi leo?

We need a multipolar world, tumechoshwa na hii hegemony ya Global north 🤔
 
Pietro said:
Russia’s claims about harming the Donald Cook are false,” said Jorge Benitez, director of NATOSource and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Brent Scowcroft Center on International Security. “The Russian fighter jet was unarmed and there is no evidence that it damaged the U.S. ship in any way.”

During the incident, a Russian Su-24 buzzed the USS Donald Cook within 300 meters for some 90 minutes. A video shot from the ship shows that the Russian aircraft had neither external weapons hanging under the wings or fuselage, nor any external pods essential to house the electronics that Vesti claims it used against the Cook.

The U.S. Navy also says there was no damage to the destroyer. In an email response to VOA's Polygraph.info website, the Navy wrote, that on April 12, 2014, a Russian SU-24 indeed “made numerous close-range and low altitude passes” over the USS Donald Cook in international waters in the Black Sea.

The Navy described the Russian action as “unsafe and unprofessional” adding that “the [the Russian] aircraft did not respond to multiple queries from the Donald Cook. The event ended without incident after approximately 90 minutes, and the ship continued without impact on its original tasking.”

Benitez believes that the Russian media produces false stories of this kind “to cover up the weaknesses of the Russian military.”

While the Russians failed to “intimidate the Donald Cook,” the expert said the incident was connected to Russia’s actions in Ukraine in 2014.

“The original lies about this non-existent electromagnetic wonder weapon appeared in 2014 during Russia’s attacks against Ukraine,” Benitez said. “The Donald Cook was the first U.S warship into the Black Sea after Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea and Putin’s media seems to have wanted a story of acting tough against the presence of the American military so close to the crisis area. Thus, they fabricated this story of disabling the electronic systems of a U.S. warship.”

Stephen Blank, an analyst at the American Foreign Policy Council, said the story about the Russian “wonder weapon” is “a standard Russian propaganda trick to disseminate false articles” meant to “impress audiences with Russian military-technological might
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....and superiority over the U.S.”

8 years later ilichosema USA tunakiona Ukraine jinsi silaha za Mrusi zinavyochakazwa kuanzia vifaru vya kisasa kama T-90M,drones,air defenses,nk.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...een-as-sign-of-military-weakness/3834792.html
 
Pietro said:
Russia yupo mbali ya US lakini cha ajabu huo umbali wake hatuuoni kwenye uwanja wa Vita pale Ukraine tena Ukraine ikiwa na silaha za zamani toka Marekani.

Air defense systems za Russia zimeshindwa kabisa kuzuia vikombora dhaifu kama M31 za Himars. AGM 88 HARM zinabomoa Rada za Urusi mpaka kufanya ndege za Ukraine kuanza tena mashambulizi halafu Leo unatuambia Yuko mbali ya USA?! Seriously?!

Hiyo habari ya Donald cook ni fake news ambayo ilianzishwa na vyombo vya habari vya Urusi na Marekani ilisha itolea ufafanuzi! Hivi kama hiyo Khibiny inaweza kuzima Meli nzima kwanini isizime vikombora vya Ukraine,juzi hapa nilipost picha ya Su-30 imetunguliwa Kharkiv ikiwa na huo mfumo WA Khibiny ambao Ukraine waliondoka nao baadae,sasa kwann hiyo ndege haikuzuia hiyo ant aircraft missile Kwa kuijam?!

Moskva ilizamishwa Kwa Makombora ya Ukraine huo mfumo ulikua wapi kujam hayo Makombora?! Achana na propaganda za Urusi kubrand silaha zao kwenye TV na magwaride lkn zikija kwenye battlefield zinakalishwa,Israel kila siku inaingia na kutoka Syria kama chooni lakini air defenses za Urusi zipo tu!

Bayraktar drones zimelipua Mifumo ya Ulinzi ya Pantsir kuanzia Armenia, Syria,Libya,Ukraine...
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Russia bado hajafanya chochote Ukraine. Angalia Iraq, Libya, Somalia, yugoslavia then compare na Ukraine utakua umepata jibu. Ishu ya Donald ni fake news?? Upo dunia gani kijana.
 
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