Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Nashangaa Sana watu kuumia na kutokwa na mapovu kwa hayo maeneo kujitenga na Ukraine na kuwa huru na kujiunga na Russia.

Mbona Kosovo ilijitenga na Serbia...
Sasa mbona Russia iliisaidia kwenye vita na inaendelea kuiuzia Serbia silaha dhidi ya Kosovo?

Kwa nini Russia na China haziitambui Kosovo kama nchi huru mpaka leo wakati mataifa mengi zaidi yanaitambua kama nchi huru?

Povu la Russia kwa Kosovo kujitenga ni la nini wakati Kosovo ilipagana vita vya ukweli yenyewe kwa mwaka mzima kujitenga dhidi ya Serbia tofauti na huo ushubwadu wa Ukraine mashariki ulionzishwa na Russia baada ya kibaraka wao kutimuliwa Kyiv na raia??
 
Mimi tatizo ninaloliona kwa Russia ni kwamba wali-miscalculate the enemy they were dealing with.They thought they were facing Ukraine,kumbe they were facing the US,NATO and Europe. This is proved by continuing to call what they are doing in Ukraine a Special Operation instead of a War,thus committing only around 200,000 soldiers in Ukraine and limited millitary equipment.Russia should have declared the Ukraine conflict a War right from the beginning. This would have enabled the country to mobilize and go full throttle in February and take Ukraine out of the World map right from the beginning.Now however that the West has mobilized against Russia and has put in place strategies to weaken the country in several fronts,Russia will have to use alot more resources in terms of equipment and manpower, if it wants to win the War.The problem ahead against Russia is huge,but is not unwinable.
Umesahau all along Russia amekua anapigana na Nato+EU ukurain anapigana 'proxy war' ila hili lilikua kama military tactics kwa upande wa Russia kupima uwezo wa Nato nakujua silaha zao zote ambazo zimeku unleashed katika battle field.

Hapo hamna doubt Russia inaingi full-scale war na Nato soon ila suali lina baki kwamba nchi za nato ziko tayari kupoteza wealth zao na glory kwa ajili ya Ukuraini na US?

Russia alitumia 28% ya military capability yake na ana plan "B" ya vita incase ikiwa ngumu ata tumia nukes kwasabb hana la kupoteza asipo pambana kwa kutumia silaha zake zote US lengo Lake ni ku-disintergrate Russia na kuiondoa kwenye ramani ya dunia kabisa. Kwahiyo hi vita ni ya life or death kwa Russia anything can happen.

Us na Nato walipenda kutumia strategy ya kuweaken Russia kwa kutumia Ukuraini ili ipambane kwa mda mlefu ili aishiwe silaha na other war logistics, ila Russia aligundua mapema na ka tuma 200k kati 1m, na alikua anaendelea na production ya silaha, sasa walio kua wana mbeza Russia ndo wanaenda kushuhudia vita nini na iko je, kuachia maeneo mengi ni military consolidation ya Russia na ku re-group for new military instruction and strategy.
 
Unamaanisha Luhansk na Donetsk wanatumika kinguvu kama Proxy wa Russia ?
Umesahau all along Russia amekua anapigana na Nato+EU ukurain anapigana 'proxy war' ila hili lilikua kama military tactics kwa upande wa Russia kupima uwezo wa Nato nakujua silaha zao zote ambazo zimeku unleashed katika battle field.

Hapo hamna doubt Russia inaingi full-scale war na Nato soon ila suali lina baki kwamba nchi za nato ziko tayari kupoteza wealth zao na glory kwa ajili ya Ukuraini na US?

Russia alitumia 28% ya military capability yake na ana plan "B" ya vita incase ikiwa ngumu ata tumia nukes kwasabb hana la kupoteza asipo pambana kwa kutumia silaha zake zote US lengo Lake ni ku-disintergrate Russia na kuiondoa kwenye ramani ya dunia kabisa. Kwahiyo hi vita ni ya life or death kwa Russia anything can happen.

Us na Nato walipenda kutumia strategy ya kuweaken Russia kwa kutumia Ukuraini ili ipambane kwa mda mlefu ili aishiwe silaha na other war logistics, ila Russia aligundua mapema na ka tuma 200k kati 1m, na alikua anaendelea na production ya silaha, sasa walio kua wana mbeza Russia ndo wanaenda kushuhudia vita nini na iko je, kuachia maeneo mengi ni military consolidation ya Russia na ku re-group for new military instruction and strategy.
 
Matokeo yametoka referendums Sasa Rasmi Majimbo yamemezwa na Russia [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
Russia pushes the panic button and raises risk of nuclear war

September 21, 2022 at 12:01 a.m. EDT

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Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a meeting with members of the government in Moscow in January 2020. (Alexey Nikolsky/Sputnik/Kremlin/Reuters)

What many watchers of the war in Ukraine feared is about to happen. Separatist leaders in four enclaves controlled by Russian forces and their proxies in Ukraine announced “referendums” to be staged Friday through Tuesday to decide whether their territories would join Russia. These votes, which are illegal under both Ukrainian and international law and viewed by most analysts as a sham, are similar to what Russia unfurled following its 2014 annexation of Crimea. Unlike then, the Kremlin’s military hold over these statelets in Ukraine’s Kherson, Donetsk, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia regions is more tenuous, with Ukraine in the midst of an ongoing offensive to push Russian troops out of more areas of the country.

Further Russian annexation of Ukrainian lands — no matter the spurious nature of the move — marks the latest roll of the dice by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Humbled on the battlefield in recent weeks, he may believe changing the political facts on the ground could stymie Ukrainian advances and force a recalculation among Western governments. “After annexing the territories, Moscow would likely declare Ukrainian attacks on those areas to be assaults on Russia itself, analysts warned, a potential trigger for a general military mobilization or a dangerous escalation such as the use of a nuclear weapon against Ukraine,” wrote my colleague Robyn Dixon.

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At the time of writing, Putin was set to deliver a speech in the early hours of Wednesday morning possibly outlining Russia’s next steps. His country’s rubber-stamp parliament is pushing through a bill that will stiffen punishments for a host of crimes, such as desertion and insubordination, if committed during military mobilization or combat situations. Pro-war hard-liners have called for such tougher measures to buttress Russia’s flagging war effort. They also believe that a tightening of control over Ukrainian territory occupied by Russia will up the ante in the Kremlin’s favor.

“Judging by what is happening and what is about to happen, this week marks either the eve of our imminent victory or the eve of nuclear war,” Margarita Simonyan, editor in chief of state propaganda channel RT, tweeted. “I can’t see any third option.”

Ukrainian officials were unimpressed. “Sham ‘referendums’ will not change anything. Neither will any hybrid ‘mobilization,’” responded Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. “Russia has been and remains an aggressor illegally occupying parts of Ukrainian land. Ukraine has every right to liberate its territories and will keep liberating them whatever Russia has to say.”

Ukrainian offensive thwarted Russia’s annexation plans in Kharkiv

"referenda" on #annexation:

Donetsk region - 94%
Luhansk - 93%
Zaporizhzhia - 87%
Kherson - 80% pic.twitter.com/S8WAqKXdyE

— Alex Kokcharov (@AlexKokcharov) September 20, 2022

That sentiment was echoed by French President Emmanuel Macron when speaking Tuesday at the dais of the U.N. General Assembly. He cast Russian actions since the Feb. 24 invasion as “a return to the age of imperialism and colonies” and spoke directly to nations in the developing world that seem to be sitting on the fence during this conflict. “Those who are silent now on this new imperialism, or are secretly complicit with it, show a new cynicism that is tearing down the global order without which peace is not possible,” Macron said.

Other Western diplomats condemned the mooted annexation plans. “Russia, its political leadership, and all those involved in these ‘referenda’ and other violations of international law in Ukraine will be held accountable, and additional restrictive measures against Russia would be considered,” E.U. foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement.

With the exception of the rhetorical backing of a clutch of far-right allies in Europe, Putin can’t count on much support from elsewhere, either. Last week at a summit in Uzbekistan, he faced a degree of pressure from the leaders of China and India, which have historically warm ties with Moscow, to draw down hostilities in Ukraine.

“Those countries signaled to Putin that he should end the war as quickly as possible, and stop claiming to represent the entirety of the non-Western world,” tweeted Alexander Baunov, a Russian journalist and international policy expert. “Moscow’s actions, therefore, are being taken to either end the war as soon as possible, or, if it that doesn’t work, to put the blame for that on other people, and turn Russia’s invasion of a neighboring country into a defensive war.”

Referendums planned in Russian-occupied Ukrainian regions on joining #Russia will not be recognized by the international community, said Emmanuel Macron and called the plans "cynical" and "a parody."

Also, Macron guaranteed the continuation of arms deliveries to #Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/a2hCAGDW6k



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Asilimia 80 ya jeshi la anga la Ukraine iko vizuri🤔
Ukraine retains 80% of its air force while Russia's failure to gain air superiority early on has deeply hobbled the effectiveness of its airpower.
 
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Mimi nimeshakupa majibu yangu ni wakati wako sasa utoe facts zako kuonyesha kwamba hiyo operation yao imefanikiwa.
With all due respect majibu unayodai umenipa sijayaona. Ungenipa facts kwanza wewe alfu ndio unidai na mimi nikupe facts! maoni na madai hayawezi kujibiwa kwa facts!

Kuhusu kufanikiwa au kutokufanikiwa kwa operation mbona ni suala la wazi.
 
Kabla ya Russia hajaingia Syria USA(nato) walikuwa wamempa Assad siku 3 akimbie nchi ...NATO wakawa wamekusanya jeshi kubwa nearly Syria

Siku ya kwanza ikapita siku ya pili urusi akatangaza ole wake nchi itakayovamia Syria (hapa NATO walishangaa kugundua tayari urusi alikuwa na base (raktakia)

NATO wakasepa wakaenda kujipanga kwa miezi 5 then ndio wakarudi na genge la magaidi
Weka source ya na kiongozi aliye toa izo siku.kile kipindi nchi kalibu zote za kiarabu kuliwa na migogoro .
 
GOOD MORNING [emoji635][emoji635][emoji635]

[emoji91][emoji91][emoji91]Brief summary of Putin
1) Partial mobilization has been announced: first of all, those who served in the RF Armed Forces have combat experience, etc. + those who are in the reserve. Mobilization activities start today
2) Mobilized receive the status of contractors and the corresponding salary
3) Russia will do everything possible to hold referendums in the liberated territories for their entry into the Russian Federation (LPR, DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions)
4) Russia is ready to use nuclear weapons and any other means of mass destruction in case of a threat to territorial integrity. “This is not a bluff,” according to Putin[emoji91]
 
Umesahau all along Russia amekua anapigana na Nato+EU ukurain anapigana 'proxy war' ila hili lilikua kama military tactics kwa upande wa Russia kupima uwezo wa Nato nakujua silaha zao zote ambazo zimeku unleashed katika battle field.

Hapo hamna doubt Russia inaingi full-scale war na Nato soon ila suali lina baki kwamba nchi za nato ziko tayari kupoteza wealth zao na glory kwa ajili ya Ukuraini na US?

Russia alitumia 28% ya military capability yake na ana plan "B" ya vita incase ikiwa ngumu ata tumia nukes kwasabb hana la kupoteza asipo pambana kwa kutumia silaha zake zote US lengo Lake ni ku-disintergrate Russia na kuiondoa kwenye ramani ya dunia kabisa. Kwahiyo hi vita ni ya life or death kwa Russia anything can happen.

Us na Nato walipenda kutumia strategy ya kuweaken Russia kwa kutumia Ukuraini ili ipambane kwa mda mlefu ili aishiwe silaha na other war logistics, ila Russia aligundua mapema na ka tuma 200k kati 1m, na alikua anaendelea na production ya silaha, sasa walio kua wana mbeza Russia ndo wanaenda kushuhudia vita nini na iko je, kuachia maeneo mengi ni military consolidation ya Russia na ku re-group for new military instruction and strategy.
Mkuu uliyosema ni sahihi na nayajua.Ninachosema ni kwamba Urusi wamekosea,wange-mobilize in February straight away na kuifuta Ukraine kabisa.Sasa itawawia vigumu kwa kuwa US,NATO na Europe nao wameshaweka in place millitary and sabotage strategies.Ndio Russia wana silaha nzuri na Jeshi kubwa,lakini tusisahau kwamba US,NATO and Europe combined, their millitary personnel can equate that of Russia,kwa hiyo sio wa kubeza hata kidogo,hasa tukizingatia kwamba "overall" the West is superior to Russia in terms of millitary hardware. Nimesema overall kwa kuwa Russia ina maeneo ambayo ni bora kuliko the West kama kwenye Cyber warfare,Marine hasa submarine technology,nuclear technology,missile technology na space warfare technology.Wakiyatumia haya maeneo appropriately and timely,naamini kabisa kwamba adversaries wao,ni no match.
 
Asilimia 80 ya jeshi la anga la Ukraine iko vizuri🤔
Ukraine retains 80% of its air force while Russia's failure to gain air superiority early on has deeply hobbled the effectiveness of its airpower.
Hii taarifa inatoka kwa a US Air Force General,mtu ambaye ana conflict of interest in the conflict,so it is obviously fake news.Huwa sijui kwa nini mnashindwa kuelewa vitu vidogo dogo kama hivi,are you really so dumb?Sijui bwana.
 
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