Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Nimekuliza swali ujanipa jibu.niambie silaha ambayo India aliwahi kutengeneza.india ni kama vile Tanzania tu.silaha zote nzuri ananunua.bora hata Pakistan kuliko India
Mada ni Su 57 Vs F-35.
Hujajibu hoja unakimbilia kwenye silaha za India.

Hata Russia tuliambiwa ina air defense bora duniani lkn ukweli tumeuona kwenye hii vita baada ya Ile Meli yake iliyojaa air defenses za kila aina kubutuliwa na Makombora mawili tu Neptune ya Ukraine.

Karibu Robo tatu ya silaha za India ni toka Russia kwahiyo unavyosema Bora ya Pakistan (yenye silaha za Marekani na Mchina) kuliko India unamaanisha silaha za Urusi zinazonunuliwa na India ni piece of [emoji90][emoji90][emoji90][emoji90]?!
 
Kwanza unatakiwa kujua Sukhoi 57 ni ndege ya Warusi peke yao wala hakuna mkono wa mtu pale.

India na Urusi walikuwa na project ya ndege inaitwa Sukhoi/HAL Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft. Ni copy ya SU-57
Ndo usome uelewe,kabla ya wahindi kukubali kuivest fedha zao kwenye project mpya ya stealth fighter jet warusi waliwapelekea prototype ya Su-57 wajirishishe Kwanza ambayo wakati huo iliitwa T-50. Ndipo wahindi waliikataa hiyo ndege wakisema haijainjiniwa vizuri kama ndege ya kizazi cha tano...wakajitoa kwenye project.
 
Baadae India ikaamua kununua Rafale toka Ufaransa.
 
Wewe ndo inabidi usome vizuri upate kuelewa.hii ndege ina muda gani alafu mkataba wa wahindi na Urusi ulianza lini.utapata jibu.
 
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Wahindi walijitoa 2018,hata sijui unazungumzia nini!

But New Delhi pulled out of the co-development deal in April 2018. According to Indian air force officials, the Su-57 was too expensive, poorly engineered and powered by old and unreliable engines.

The Indians’ complaints illustrated the yawning gulf between stealth-warplane design and the actual production of radar-evading jets. It’s one thing to sketch an advanced warplane on paper. It’s quite another to build one and get it to work.
Why India Rejected Russia's Advanced Su-57 Fighter Jet
 
Project ya ndege ya pamoka kati ya Urusi na India ulishakufa kwa iyo hata ndege moja haikuwahi kutoka.ila SU-57 ni ndege ambazo zinaendelea kutengenezwa na ilishaonekana kwenye anga la Syria na pia imeonekana Ukraine.usichanganye vitu kama ujui.

Hapo ni vitu viwili tofauti.jaribu kuelewa
 
Ndo maana Putin kawaaambia watambue kwanza majimbu mapya ya urusi😂😂😂😂
 
Ndege ya india na Urusi ipo picha tu ya design ila su 57 ishatengenezwa na inatumika
 
Kwani kujitoa kwenye project kuna sababishwa na ubora tu waproject husika ama!!?

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Kwani ile 40 ya awali iliishaisha mara hii

Kaomba maana RUSSIA walisema wazi kua mazungumzo yasihusishe sehem zao mpya walizopewa nawa UKRAINE

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[emoji627][emoji635][emoji298]️Japanese authorities fear Russian retaliation after G7 countries and Australia agreed to impose a ceiling on Russian oil prices at $60 per barrel - Kyodo news agency

Hv kwa anaejua kabla ya hao G7 kupitisha hili wazo lao pipa moja la wese lilikua lauzwa kiasi gani na UCHINA na INDIA walipata punguza yakuuziwa kiasi gani

Ila kama mpaka wenyewe wanaanza kulia lia nanna hii hakuna litakalokua hapa

Kwawanaojua

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Mnajibiwa kulingana na mnavyokuja, popote kambi.
Sio lazima kila mtu awe na mtizamo wenu, nyie mliamini kwenye demilitarization ya wanajeshi wa Ukraine, kibao kikageuzwa leo Urusi ndio wanapigwa za uso na kuwa demilitarized.
Rais wa EU yule mama mwembamba "kamwaga maharage", anasema zaidi ya askari 100,000 wa Ukraine wame'sagwa'. Na waendesha operation ya demilitarization and denazification walisema EU na US +UK wanatumia askari na raia wa Ukraine kama 'canon fodder'( naweza kuwa nimekosa kuandika fungu hili la maneno). Yaani walikuwa wanatumwa mstari wa mbele wa mapambano kama chambo. Sasa Rais wa EU kakiri.

Mbaya sana hii.
 
[emoji1263][emoji724][emoji921]Venezuela’s largest oil refinery has suspended operations


Axel Lloyd unaona habari njema kwa RUSSIA tokea huko VENEZUELA[emoji16]

juzi hapa mlisema US anaenda kuchimba wese huku kufidia gape la RUSSIA

Hii SVO kina PUT IN hawakukurupuka walijipanga sanaaa

Mmeeka bei elekezi na huku wese munakosa mtarudi tena RUSSIA kumpa faida mara dufu [emoji16][emoji23][emoji16]

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Mama mgani huyo mtamtegemea, vita viko frontline na vitaishia Crimea, Urusi ameishiwa wanajeshi tena kwenye nchi ya watu.
 
Wewe ndo huelewi unarukaruka kama maharage. Hata kwenye hiyo paragraph ya Wikipedia wamekuandikia "concept based on Russian Su-57".

Kabla wahindi kuanza kufund hiyo project Urusi iliwapelekea prototype ya Su-57,wakati ule T50 ili wahindi waifanye evaluation ndo pesa itoke. Wahindi kuichunguza prototype wakasema ni poor designed,ina engine mbaya na hata stealth profile yake hairidhishi ndipo wakaamua kujitoa. Sasa ww hapo unachobisha ni kipi?! Wakati wataalam wa India wenyewe ndio waliotoa hizo feedback.

Unadhani watu hua wanatoa ela Tu kununua au kufund project fulani lazima assesment ifanyike wakiona project haina maslahi wanajitoa,mbona India haikujitoa kwenye project ya pamoja (na Russia) ya kutengeneza Brahmos missiles?!. Si sababu ilikidhi mahitaji Yao.

Kwanini haikujitoa kwenye project ya pamoja na Israel kutengeneza Barak air defense systems based on Israel's Barak system.

Hata Australi ilijitoa kwenye deal la kununua diesel submarine toka Ufaransa wakakimbilia Nuclear submarine ambazo itazipata toka kwa Marekani & Uingereza chini ya AUKUS.
 
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