Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Axel Lloyd]

Mkuu haya mambo hayahitaji kuwa na PhD kuyafahamu,nani aliyekueleza kuwa USA hawezi kuwa na Economic hardship?
Hujui kuwa inflation kwa takribani miezi 8-ilikuwa imefikia kiwango cha 40% kikubwa zaidi kuwahi kutokea kwa kipindi cha miaka 40+ iliyopita?.Na hapo bado UE countries.

Imagine wewe unafanya kazi unalipa Kodi kisha Serikali yako badala ya kutumia Kodi hiyo kuboresha maisha ya watu wanatumia kuiwezesha Ukraine dhidi ya Russia kwa nini usitegemee uchumi wa hizo Nchi kuyumba?

Kiwango cha inflation Marekani hakijawahi fika 40% tangu vita hii ianze na fedha iliyoenda Ukraine haijafikia hata 5% ya Bajeti ya USA

 

[President of China]

💥💥💥Zelensky's apartment in the Crimea will be nationalized, - the head of the Crimea Sergey Aksyonov💥💥💥

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Nakubali

Kiongozi, kumbuka kuuliza sio ujinga.

Kabisa,ila unamrefer sana huyo mwamba.
Huyo mwamba Kuna seehem nyingi anapindisha ukweli,na Sasa amekua ana chuki za wazi dhidi ya urusi.hasemi ukweli Tena.
Lkn wewe ndo unamuamini,hakuna namna.

 

[President of China]

Putin plans to discuss Russia's technological sovereignty and investment support today

 

[President of China]

Putin announces the message of the state policy task for 2023.

 

[President of China]

"And what did you want? What else do they do with those who allow themselves to be wiped on their feet?"

Putin advised Europeans not to be surprised and not to ask questions why the United States pays a lower price than Europe for sanctions against Russia.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Anga la Ukraine litageuka gumu kwa ndege, drone na missiles za Supa-pawa kupenya.

Patriot ni ngao dhaifu sana kwa silaha za Urusi ndugu yangu.
Urusi walishaifanyia kazi miaka mingi sana .
Toka zama za Sadam Husein.
Kama unabisha subiri utaona.

Hapa sisi tunasubiri Thaad TU lkn sio Patriot.

 

[President of China]

Putin's decree concerning the reaction to the "price ceiling" for oil has not yet been released, but today the president announced the outlines of further work on the energy market:

🔹 Russia will look for partners in dynamically developing countries - in Asia, Latin America

The Russian Federation will develop port and pipeline systems in Asia, intends to increase gas supplies to the East by 2030 to 88 billion cubic meters

🔹 New projects will allow to increase LNG production by 70 billion cubic meters by 2030, which will help expand the geography of exports

🔹 It is possible to create a gas hub in Turkey in the coming years

Electronic platforms for trading Russian energy resources for the West can be created in the coming months, and prices for European consumers will be determined there.

 

[President of China]

Russia's Six tasks for 2023:

✔search for new partners and reorientation of energy supplies
✔Strengthening technological sovereignty
✔outstripping the growth of the manufacturing industry
✔ensuring the financial sovereignty of the country
✔a tangible increase in the income of citizens
✔Protection of motherhood and childhood

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Kifaru cha Urusi kikifanya yake maeneo ya Mar'inka.
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[President of China]

💥💥💥Russian oil exports to partner countries increased by a quarter;

1. ▪️ In the last 5 months, Russia has exported about 22 million tons of wheat, mainly to African and Asian countries;
2. ▪️By the end of the current season, the Russian Federation can bring the total volume of grain export supplies to 50 million tons;
3. ▪️ The Russian Federation will increase the supply of energy resources to Asia, Africa and Eastern countries;
4. ▪️ Russia continues to help the poorest countries with food, while the West covers itself;
5. ▪️For 9 months, the volume of mutual trade between EurAsEC countries increased by 12%;
6. ▪️Russia will focus on building rail approaches to ports in the Black Sea-Azov Basin;
7. ▪️The Russian Federation will not remove the accelerated creation of the Murmansk transport hub from the agenda;
8. ▪️ The President of the Russian Federation has asked to launch new robotics and aeronautical drone programs;
9. ▪️Putin instructed to adjust the work plans of the military-industrial complex and the state defense order💥💥💥

 

[Antonio Conte]

[emoji95][emoji95][emoji95]The supply of Patriot systems to Kiev will increase the risk of direct involvement of the US military in the Ukrainian conflict. - said Maria Zakharova[emoji95][emoji95][emoji95]

Tarehe 24 Putin mwenyewe alisema nchi yoyote itakayo isaidia Ukraine itapata Cha moto. US si anatoa misaada wazi wazi kabisa? Hiyo direct involvement Iko wp? Russia ni mbwa Koko tu na Zakharova wako

 

[Antonio Conte]

Kiwango cha inflation Marekani hakijawahi fika 40% tangu vita hii ianze na fedha iliyoenda Ukraine haijafikia hata 5% ya Bajeti ya USA

Hao jamaa wanaongea tu ujinga ujinga kwasbbu ya chuki zao ktk mataifa ya magharibi

 

[Antonio Conte]

Patriot ni ngao dhaifu sana kwa silaha za Urusi ndugu yangu.
Urusi walishaifanyia kazi miaka mingi sana .
Toka zama za Sadam Husein.
Kama unabisha subiri utaona.

Hapa sisi tunasubiri Thaad TU lkn sio Patriot.

America inaboresha silaha zake kila wakati

Patriots ziko Bora zaidi kuliko hizo S300 au 400 za Russia

 

[President of China]

Tarehe 24 Putin mwenyewe alisema nchi yoyote itakayo isaidia Ukraine itapata Cha moto. US si anatoa misaada wazi wazi kabisa? Hiyo direct involvement Iko wp? Russia ni mbwa Koko tu na Zakharova wako

Unajua mimi huwa sijadiliani na mbumbumbu kama wewe. Hapa hapa tunaongea facts issue zenu hizo peleka kwa wenzako wa facebook.

Nilikuuliza swali hivi USA anauchumi mkubwa kwa namna gani?
Asset or Liability?

 

[President of China]

America inaboresha silaha zake kila wakati

Patriots ziko Bora zaidi kuliko hizo S300 au 400 za Russia

Leta proof acha kubwabwaja.

 

[President of China]

America inaboresha silaha zake kila wakati

Patriots ziko Bora zaidi kuliko hizo S300 au 400 za Russia

Mavi ya kuku

 

[kp kipanya44]

Kiwango cha inflation Marekani hakijawahi fika 40% tangu vita hii ianze na fedha iliyoenda Ukraine haijafikia hata 5% ya Bajeti ya USA

Hapa umeupiga mwingi

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[President of China]

Washamba kutoka Ukronovika

Q:Are the S400 missiles better than patriot missiles?

I will answer definitly with Yes.

Lets Start with cost of a missile battery of both S-400 and MIM-104 Patriot-based on sails for Saudi-Arabia Patriots cost 3 Billions a battery…S-400 Triumph Battery costs 300–500 millions (to be just you will need more millions to add search radars and other equipment )but still the S-400 cost less than 1/5 the Ptriot witch is ??!!!!!!!!!!! wear ,No? !!! 🙂

The S-400 comes with multiple missiles that give it wide options to shoot-down different targets,while the Patriot have 3 main types only 2 are Practicaly used and it’s more suited for against ballistic targets.

• 9M96E Against close range targets.
• 9m96e2 with 120 km against all medium range aerial aerodynamic targets .
• 48N6E3/DM with 200–250 km against ballistic and longe range targets.
• 40N6 E against very long range targets

The Patriot Battery have less Equipment than S-400 specially the old one PAC-2.

CHARACTERISTICS OF THE S-400 AND THE PATRIOT:

• Range Vs Aerial targets:

S-400: 400 km range max.​

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Patriot:160 range max.​

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• Range Vs ballistic missiles(this one is interesting):

S-400 :60 km .​

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Patriot:50 km .​

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• Target elimination Altitude:

S-400:​

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Max — 27 km , min — 0,01 km.​

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Patriot:​

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Max — 24 km , min — 0,06 km.​

*Still even the 9m96E2 can reach hight of 70 km (unuasually) and 40N6 can go up 185 km.

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• Range of radar coverage using integrated Radars:

S-400:600 km.​

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Patriot:150-200 km.​

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• Maximum speed of targets for successful elimination:

S-400:Mach 15.​

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Patriot:Mach 6.​

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• Launch angle of missile:

S-400:360 degrees.​

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Patriot:45 degrees.​

You need 4 Launchers of Patriot to cover all 360 degree angles witch is little bad in logistics and overal system cost.

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• Mobility and Deployment time

S-400:5 minutes/mobile.​

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Patriot:30 minutes (may be less in PAC-3) /tracked.​

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The reaction time for both Aerial Aerodynamic targets and Ballistic missiles is in favor of the S-400 Triumph ,Radars connected to the S-400 are completely networked and yes S-400 batteries come with AESA radars like Gamma DEM S/X band and NEBO .

91N6E Search/Engagment Radar of the S-400 is advanced and more powerful than any comparable Land-Based system and mutch the latest SPY- Radar types working with AEGIS.

Patriot Performence in Saudi Arabia vs Big-Drones /cruise missiles and even Tactical ballistic missiles in the size of Burkan-2 /Scud type and Qaher 1–2–missiles was not that impresive,many lone missiles hit there targets,Bypassing there targets easily.
The leftovers from Houthi missiles shows that the Patriot’s kinetic warhead is not doing the best and missils hit there targets in many time -even those they claim them as successful intercepts-I can understand that anyway-

The S-400 can be integrated with most old generation Systems -Russian of curse- and this make it easy for other countries to put it in there arsenals the Patriot don’t have this capability.-accept with big huge modifications -

 

[President of China]

Issue ya Patriot tumeifunga rasmi kuwa ni ngoma ya watoto mbele ya Russia.​