Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

MOTOCHINI said:
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Ikabidi waitwe Wanaume wakazi kutoka Urusi wenyewe
yaani Special Forces amabao kazi yao ni ku storms na ku destroys
hawa Majamaa nihabari Nyingine
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FUSO said:
Kwa hiyo hata lile kombola lililopotea target na kutwanga Urusi humohomo pia Ukraine walifuta GPS eee !!

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Russia accidentally bombs own city near Ukraine​

At least three people were injured as a jet fired a weapon into the city of Belgorod, according to Russian state media.
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Sometimes ni makosa ya kibinadamu tu,au hata sabotage!
 
lee van cliff said:
Hapana Mkuu Extrovert.
Russia haikutingishwa mwanzo wa vita hata kidogo.
Isipokua Hali ilikua kama hivi.

-Jeshi la Ukraine lilikua bado liko fiti kabisa tayari kukabiliana na jeshi lolote hapa duniani,hasa likiwa na mafunzo makali kabisa kutoka majeshi Bora kabisa ya NATO.hasa USA,UK,Her,Fra,Canada n.k.

-jeshi la Ukraine lilikua bado liko na silaha Bora kabisa,kutoka Iliyokua USSR,USA UK na NATO.

-jeshi la Ukraine lilikua linapata taarifa zote muhimu kivita dhidi ya jeshi imara kabisa hapa chini ya jua.
Taarifa muhimu kama vile Urusi wanakuja na silaha Gani,mipango Yao,jinsi ya kuwapiga na kuingilia mawasiliano yao.taarifa hizi Ukraine alikua akipewa na NATO hasa USA UK Fra na Ger n.k.

-ukraine ikiwa na askari wenye morale ya Hali ya juu kabisa wakiwa brainwashed na ahadi no no-no kua wataishinda Red Army na kua Urusi itashindwa mfano wa USA walivyoshindwa Vietnam.

-Ukraine ikiwa na advantage ya "eneo",
Ikiwa imepakana na nchi zote wanachama wa NATO hivyo ikawa rahisi kupokea misaada haraka kutokea Western countries.

-ukraine ilikua Ina ngome ngumu sana kijeshi zilozojengwa kwa msaada wa NATO Kwa ajili ya kuja kukabiliana kijeshi na Might Russia.

Hivyo basi Russia wala haikua dhaifu,wala haikubahatisha,wala haikukurupuka.
Kumbuka Ukraine ilikua ni sehemu ya Urusi USSR kwa maana hiyo Wana masalia Yao yanayopata taarifa zote za kinachoendelea Ukraine,Wana majasusi Bora kabisa,hivyo,walikua wanajua Kila kitu kinachoendelea Ukraine kwa msaada wa NATO.
ilikua ni suala la muda TU.

Urusi Walifanya maandalizi yote ya hii SMO na kwa kujua uwezo wa kijeshi aliokua nao Ukraine Urusi akapanga mipango yake yote ya uvamizi huku akijua anaenda kukabiliana na nchi yenye uwezo Gani wa kijeshi.alijua fika atapoteza askari na vifaa vingi sana,kwani moja ya sababu kubwa kabisa ya SMO hii ni kumvua na kumnyang'anya Ukraine uwezo wake wa kijeshi.hapa sio mchezo,kumnyang'anya silaha mtu alieishika na akiwa ana mafunzo mujarabu kabisa sio kitu kidogo.yaani kuifanyia nchi kamili kitu kinachoitwa"Demilitalization"sio jambo dogo ATI,Tena nchi yenyewe inapewa Kila aina ya misaada inayotaka kutoka NATO.

Sasa basi Urusi iliyajua yote haya na ikaanzisha OP yake,wakati Ukraine ikiwa bado Iko fiti kabisa,ukweli hata Ingekua nchi Gani hapa duniani ni lazima ingepata upinzani mkali kabisa kutoka Kwa nchi yenye uwezo iliyokua nao Ukraine.
USA iliwahi kupata upinzani,Iraq, Afghanistan n.k.kwa Nini isiwe Russia?

Lakini basi kwa kuyajua hayo yote ,Might Russia ilianza kuvunja ngome moja Hadi nyingine, taratibu, hatua kwa hatua.

Kama inavyofahamika,katika vita huwezi ukaanza na silaha kubwa,Bali unakua unaingiza silaha kubwa kutokana na upinzani kuongezeka.
USA na washirika wake walisumbuliwa kidogo na Scud B za sadam husein,ndipo.wakaleta mwarobaini wake Patriot.
Vivyo hivyo kwa Urusi,sio kwamba haikua na solution za akina Juveline, Himmers nk.bali walipoona kua kumbe aina hiyo ya silaha zipo nao wakaleta Tiba zake.

Mwisho kabisa ni kwamba,kazi ya kulivunja nguvu jeshi la Ukraine ilikua ni ngumu yenye jasho na damu,lakini Sasa hatimae wameshalivunja tayari.
Silaha zote zinazotumika Sasa upande wa Ukraine ni mpya,ni zile zinazoingizwa kwa njia za panya na kificho,nazo zikibainika zinateketezwa.

Sio kwamba Urusi ilikua haijapata in war experience,Bali jeshi la Ukraine lilikua bado ni imara.
Urusi kafanya kazi kubwa na ya hatari sana ya kuli neutralize.
hatimae kamudu,na Sasa anajipigia TU.
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Comment of the day, shukran sana mkuu haya madini hayapatikani kokote zaidi ya hapa JF.
 
Kakijana said:
Hapana, uzi mzima huu ulijazwa na wanazi sasa wameshaona unazi wao haupendwi enzi hizi za uhuru na kujitegemea, nafsi zimewasuta walichokua wanakipigania ni maslahi ya kuja kuondolewa marinda yao, sasa mmebaki wanazi watatu(3) tuu humu jamvini
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Tutamuengua tu,ni swala la muda, hatimaye atajiona mjinga na kufyata mkia.Nashukuru watu wanazidi kujitambua.
 
Speaking after a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group on April 21, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said that Russia's war against Ukraine is "not the result of NATO enlargement" but "the cause" of it.

According to Austin, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin "made a series of grave miscalculations" when he ordered a full-scale invasion of Ukraine over a year ago.

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MOTOCHINI said:
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Vita Raha ukisikia tu sio Live ukiwepo
Huko Bakhmut Kuna Kikundi cha jeshi la Ukrein Kilikuwa kimejificha kwenye Jengo na Kuleta Usumbufu sana kwa WAGNER
Ikabidi waitwe Wanaume wakazi kutoka Urusi wenyewe
yaani Special Forces amabao kazi yao ni ku storms na ku destroys
hawa Majamaa nihabari Nyingine
Yaani Njugu zinamwagwa Live hakuna kurudi Nyuma FILAMU
yaani Zinapigwa Mpaka masikio yanatoboka kwa milio tu!!
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Ukraine war: Pentagon leaks reveal Russian infighting over death toll​


Leaked US documents have revealed that disagreements in Russia's security apparatus led to the defence ministry being accused of undercounting casualties of the war in Ukraine.

Russia has said very little publicly about the scale of its war deaths.
But the files show the FSB security service claimed officials were not counting deaths of the Russian National Guard, Wagner mercenaries and others.

Russia has already warned the leaks may be fake, deliberately dumped by the US.

However, the detail corroborates what was already widely known: that Russia's military and security groups have had frequent disagreements about the handling of the war in Ukraine and that Russia has avoided publicising the numbers of dead and wounded.

The FSB's reported calculation of almost 110,000 casualties by February is still far lower than numbers this week in previously leaked US documents, which estimated Russian losses at between 189,500 and 223,000 casualties, with 35,500-43,000 men killed in action.

Russia's most recent official figure dates back to September last year, when the deaths of 5,937 servicemen were confirmed.

The same document says under-reporting of casualties within the system highlights the military's "continuing reluctance" to convey bad news up the chain of command.

Commentators have often suggested that President Vladimir Putin has been shielded from the extent of Russia's losses on the battlefield, and this assessment appears to be borne out by these communications intercepts, labelled "SI" or Special Intelligence.

Another leaked document labelled top secret refers to an "information war" between the defence ministry and Wagner's mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigozhin in February.

Prigozhin repeatedly accused the military of halting ammunition supplies as his men fought to capture Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine.

The leak quotes ministry officials suggesting that they find "allies of equal status to fight Prigozhin rather than doing so itself".

Tellingly, the assessment in the leak asserts that significant losses suffered by Russia's National Guard, or Rosgvardia, will "probably hinder Moscow's attempts to fully secure all of its annexed territories".

Rosgvardia troops have taken part in combat and helped organise Russia's rigged referendums that led to Mr Putin annexing four Ukrainian regions last September.

Little is known about the identity of the leaker, but the Washington Post has reported that he is a gun enthusiast in his 20s who worked on a US military base.

According to the Post, the leaker transcribed and then typed up the content of classified documents he had seen on the base, and then posted photos of the documents themselves.

Among the pages of photographed documents, one shows a US assessment of Russia's "grinding campaign of attrition" in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region. It says barring an "unforeseen recovery" by Russian forces, Ukraine will be able to frustrate Moscow's war aims "resulting in a protracted war beyond 2023".

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov has suggested that the US may have dumped the documents deliberately.

As a "party to the conflict" he argued that Washington may have sought to "mislead the enemy, that is the Russian Federation".

Cadets of a military academy attend the funeral of Dmitry Menshikov, a mercenary for the private Russian military company Wagner Group, killed during the military conflict in Ukraine, in the Alley of Heroes at a cemetery in Saint Petersburg,
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Wagner mercenaries have died in large numbers in the battle for Bakhmut - these military cadets attend a mercenary's funeral
However, another intriguing leak cites Russia's Main Operations Directorate hailing a successful operation in early February aimed at convincing Ukrainian intelligence of a potential joint Russian-Belarusian offensive from Belarus.

As Russia's military campaign in the east stalled in the run-up to the anniversary of the war, there had been reports of a Russian military build-up in Belarus with the aim of reviving its failed invasion from Belarusian territory the year before.

Kyiv was forced to move troops to defend the area from possible attack, diverting them from the front lines in the east and south.
The leaked document cites a Directorate official recommending two more phases of activity in March "to further mislead Ukrainian forces". The leak makes clear the plans were being sent to Belarus's military chief for approval.

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Putin's war of choice turned a disaster for Russia.
 

Russian foreign ministry says NATO statements about Ukraine joining alliance are "dangerous"​

From CNN's Darya Tarasova

The Russian Foreign Ministry issued a warning Friday about NATO's "dangerous" statements regarding Ukraine joining the alliance.

"NATO sets itself the goal of 'defeating' Russia in Ukraine, and to motivate Kyiv, it promises that after the end of the conflict, the country can be accepted into the alliance," ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said.

It comes after NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg visited Kyiv on Thursday and said that “Ukraine’s future is in NATO."

Stoltenberg said he discussed a “multiyear support initiative” with President Volodymyr Zelensky, adding that it would help Ukraine transition from Soviet-era equipment and doctrines to “NATO standards.” This would “ensure full interoperability with the alliance,” Stoltenberg said.

His visit and the statements about Ukraine joining NATO were met with pushback from Russia. The Kremlin reiterated on Thursday that preventing Kyiv from joining NATO is one of its key goals.

"Such statements are short-sighted and downright dangerous. This can lead to the final collapse of the European security system," Zakharova said.

Stoltenberg also reaffirmed Friday during a meeting of allies at Ramstein Air Base in Germany that Ukraine will join the military alliance. He told reporters all NATO allies have agreed Ukraine should be a member — but did not give a definitive date of when this would happen.
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NATO ni dude kubwa mno lenye kutisha, Urusi wana haki ya kuingiwa hofu.
 
Proved said:

Warsaw Ghetto Uprising: German president draws Putin-Nazi parallels​


German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier (right) speaks in Warsaw, as Polish President Andrzei Duda (3rd right, front row) and Israeli President Isaac Herzog (1st left, front row) listen

IMAGE SOURCE,AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES
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German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier (R) asked "for forgiveness for the crimes" Nazi Germany had committed
Germany's president has drawn parallels between the brutal Nazi crackdown of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943 and Russian President Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine last year.

Mr Putin "has broken international law, challenged borders, committed land grabs", said Frank-Walter Steinmeier at a commemorative ceremony in Poland.

More than 10,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis during the ghetto uprising.

Mr Steinmeier asked "for forgiveness for the crimes" Germany had committed.

The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - one of World War Two's most remarkable acts of defiance - began exactly 80 years ago as a response to Nazi efforts to send the remaining Jewish population in the Polish capital to death camps.

Hundreds of young Jewish men - armed only with pistols, machine guns and grenades - withheld the onslaught of German troops for three weeks.

About 13,000 Jews were killed, many of them burnt alive or suffocated after the Nazis burned the ghetto block-by-block.

Of the remaining 50,000 residents, almost all were captured and sent to the death camps of Majdanek and Treblinka in Nazi-occupied Poland.

Nazi soldiers march Jews out of the ghetto on 19 April 1943

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Nazi soldiers march Jews out of the ghetto on 19 April 1943

On Wednesday, Mr Steinmeier - together with Polish President Andrzej Duda and Israeli President Isaac Herzog - laid wreaths at the monument to the ghetto heroes in Warsaw.

And speaking at the commemorative ceremony, the German president said that President Putin's war "brings immeasurable suffering, violence, destruction and death to the people of Ukraine".

"You in Poland, you in Israel, you know from your history that freedom and independence must be fought for and defended. You know how important it is for a democracy to defend itself.

"But we Germans, too, have learned the lessons of our history. Never again, which means that there must be no criminal war of aggression like Russia's against Ukraine in Europe."

Mr Steinmeier stressed this meant Germany and other Western nations would "stand firmly on the side of Ukraine".

It was the first time that a German head of state has been asked to speak at an anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

Unlike counterparts in other Western countries, German leaders had somewhat strained relations with Ukraine's authorities during the first few weeks of the Russian invasion, with senior officials in Kyiv openly criticising them for refusing to send modern weapons.

It was even reported that Mr Steinmeier was snubbed by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky last year, when he wanted to visit the Ukrainian capital together with other Western leaders.

But Germany is now seen as being at the forefront of Ukraine's fight with the invading forces.

Tens of thousands of people are believed to have been killed, and many Ukrainian towns and villages have been destroyed since President Putin launched his invasion on 24 February 2022.

Ukraine and its allies accuse Russian troops of committing thousands of war crimes, including mass murder, and rape and deportations.

Mass burial sites have been found in several parts of Ukraine previously occupied by Russian troops, including some containing bodies of civilians showing signs of torture.
Moscow has repeatedly denied the accusations.

Last month, the International Criminal Court in The Hague issued an arrest warrant against President Putin, triggering an angry response from the Kremlin.

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Putin amegeuka Hitler wa karne ya 21.
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Wao walipoivamia Iraq, Libya hawakuwa ma NAZI?

Wanatapatapa na kuumia kwa sababu ya strongest Russia. Walitarajia sanctions na ku supply silaha hapo Ukraine kunge disintegrate Russia.
 
lee van cliff said:
Hapana Mkuu Extrovert.
Russia haikutingishwa mwanzo wa vita hata kidogo.
Isipokua Hali ilikua kama hivi.

-Jeshi la Ukraine lilikua bado liko fiti kabisa tayari kukabiliana na jeshi lolote hapa duniani,hasa likiwa na mafunzo makali kabisa kutoka majeshi Bora kabisa ya NATO.hasa USA,UK,Her,Fra,Canada n.k.

-jeshi la Ukraine lilikua bado liko na silaha Bora kabisa,kutoka Iliyokua USSR,USA UK na NATO.

-jeshi la Ukraine lilikua linapata taarifa zote muhimu kivita dhidi ya jeshi imara kabisa hapa chini ya jua.
Taarifa muhimu kama vile Urusi wanakuja na silaha Gani,mipango Yao,jinsi ya kuwapiga na kuingilia mawasiliano yao.taarifa hizi Ukraine alikua akipewa na NATO hasa USA UK Fra na Ger n.k.

-ukraine ikiwa na askari wenye morale ya Hali ya juu kabisa wakiwa brainwashed na ahadi no no-no kua wataishinda Red Army na kua Urusi itashindwa mfano wa USA walivyoshindwa Vietnam.

-Ukraine ikiwa na advantage ya "eneo",
Ikiwa imepakana na nchi zote wanachama wa NATO hivyo ikawa rahisi kupokea misaada haraka kutokea Western countries.

-ukraine ilikua Ina ngome ngumu sana kijeshi zilozojengwa kwa msaada wa NATO Kwa ajili ya kuja kukabiliana kijeshi na Might Russia.

Hivyo basi Russia wala haikua dhaifu,wala haikubahatisha,wala haikukurupuka.
Kumbuka Ukraine ilikua ni sehemu ya Urusi USSR kwa maana hiyo Wana masalia Yao yanayopata taarifa zote za kinachoendelea Ukraine,Wana majasusi Bora kabisa,hivyo,walikua wanajua Kila kitu kinachoendelea Ukraine kwa msaada wa NATO.
ilikua ni suala la muda TU.

Urusi Walifanya maandalizi yote ya hii SMO na kwa kujua uwezo wa kijeshi aliokua nao Ukraine Urusi akapanga mipango yake yote ya uvamizi huku akijua anaenda kukabiliana na nchi yenye uwezo Gani wa kijeshi.alijua fika atapoteza askari na vifaa vingi sana,kwani moja ya sababu kubwa kabisa ya SMO hii ni kumvua na kumnyang'anya Ukraine uwezo wake wa kijeshi.hapa sio mchezo,kumnyang'anya silaha mtu alieishika na akiwa ana mafunzo mujarabu kabisa sio kitu kidogo.yaani kuifanyia nchi kamili kitu kinachoitwa"Demilitalization"sio jambo dogo ATI,Tena nchi yenyewe inapewa Kila aina ya misaada inayotaka kutoka NATO.

Sasa basi Urusi iliyajua yote haya na ikaanzisha OP yake,wakati Ukraine ikiwa bado Iko fiti kabisa,ukweli hata Ingekua nchi Gani hapa duniani ni lazima ingepata upinzani mkali kabisa kutoka Kwa nchi yenye uwezo iliyokua nao Ukraine.
USA iliwahi kupata upinzani,Iraq, Afghanistan n.k.kwa Nini isiwe Russia?

Lakini basi kwa kuyajua hayo yote ,Might Russia ilianza kuvunja ngome moja Hadi nyingine, taratibu, hatua kwa hatua.

Kama inavyofahamika,katika vita huwezi ukaanza na silaha kubwa,Bali unakua unaingiza silaha kubwa kutokana na upinzani kuongezeka.
USA na washirika wake walisumbuliwa kidogo na Scud B za sadam husein,ndipo.wakaleta mwarobaini wake Patriot.
Vivyo hivyo kwa Urusi,sio kwamba haikua na solution za akina Juveline, Himmers nk.bali walipoona kua kumbe aina hiyo ya silaha zipo nao wakaleta Tiba zake.

Mwisho kabisa ni kwamba,kazi ya kulivunja nguvu jeshi la Ukraine ilikua ni ngumu yenye jasho na damu,lakini Sasa hatimae wameshalivunja tayari.
Silaha zote zinazotumika Sasa upande wa Ukraine ni mpya,ni zile zinazoingizwa kwa njia za panya na kificho,nazo zikibainika zinateketezwa.

Sio kwamba Urusi ilikua haijapata in war experience,Bali jeshi la Ukraine lilikua bado ni imara.
Urusi kafanya kazi kubwa na ya hatari sana ya kuli neutralize.
hatimae kamudu,na Sasa anajipigia TU.
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Dah..an excellent piece of analysis...nimekuandalia birian hapa Vladivostok...jiji ambalo ni mwisho wa reli na bandari Safi na makao makuu ya Pacific fleet...
 
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