Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Proved · Dec 2, 2023

T14 Armata said:
Sijawahi amini counteroffensive isiyo na 3:1 kwa attacking army versus defending army kama majeshi hayo yana nguvu sawa.
Sasa kwa Ukraine na Urusi bado Urusi ndio ina advantage kwa population, number of combatants na weaponry hivyo hakuna uwezekano Ukraine ishinde labda kuwepo na uzembe wa hali ya juu kwa Urusi.
Hapa ni attrition mpaka mmoja achoke.

Na hapo kwenye attrition Urusi ndiye mnufaika mkubwa mno, maana ana man power ya kutosha na artillery zisizo na idadi.....hivyo mwishowe Ukraine atashindwa.

Nadhani pia Urusi walikuwa na muda mrefu sana wa kutengeneza defense lines imara kuzuia counter offensive,

Bado tena Ukraine hana airpower nzuri ya kutoa support kwa offensive yake.

Kiufupi Ukraine sioni kama atatoboa kwenye hii counter offensive na wafadhili wake ndio hao wamegeukia huko Gaza na uchaguzi wa Marekani huenda ukaharibu kabisa mambo.

Lwiva · Dec 2, 2023

T14 Armata said:
Sijawahi amini counteroffensive isiyo na 3:1 kwa attacking army versus defending army kama majeshi hayo yana nguvu sawa.
Sasa kwa Ukraine na Urusi bado Urusi ndio ina advantage kwa population, number of combatants na weaponry hivyo hakuna uwezekano Ukraine ishinde labda kuwepo na uzembe wa hali ya juu kwa Urusi.
Hapa ni attrition mpaka mmoja achoke.

Ukweli ni kwamba silaha za urusi zina tec kubwa kuliko za nato ...ugumu wa kulipua kifaru kimoja cha urusi kilicho na high tec ni sawa na kulipua vifaru 8 vya marekani vyenye high tec....vifaru vya marekani vilikuwa vina shindwa hata kumuona adui maana havikuweza kata kumsogerea mrusi umbali wa km 8 uso kwa uso vililipuliwa vikiwa mbali kabisa na adui vingine vili haribika vyenyewe bila hata ya kuguswa na adui

mohamedidrisa789 · Dec 2, 2023

T14 Armata said:
Sijawahi amini counteroffensive isiyo na 3:1 kwa attacking army versus defending army kama majeshi hayo yana nguvu sawa.
Sasa kwa Ukraine na Urusi bado Urusi ndio ina advantage kwa population, number of combatants na weaponry hivyo hakuna uwezekano Ukraine ishinde labda kuwepo na uzembe wa hali ya juu kwa Urusi.
Hapa ni attrition mpaka mmoja achoke.

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] mmeanza kunena kwa lugha.tuliwambia nyie ila hamkutaka kusikia, sasa kipo wapi.

mohamedidrisa789 · Dec 2, 2023

T14 Armata said:
Sijawahi amini counteroffensive isiyo na 3:1 kwa attacking army versus defending army kama majeshi hayo yana nguvu sawa.
Sasa kwa Ukraine na Urusi bado Urusi ndio ina advantage kwa population, number of combatants na weaponry hivyo hakuna uwezekano Ukraine ishinde labda kuwepo na uzembe wa hali ya juu kwa Urusi.
Hapa ni attrition mpaka mmoja achoke.

Kwa iyo unashauri nini kifanyike mchambuzi wetu[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

kp kipanya44 · Dec 2, 2023

Hii ni Jana tu, zaidi ya elf Moja walichinjwa 🥱🥱🥱🥱

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mohamedidrisa789 · Dec 2, 2023

kp kipanya44 said:
Hii ni Jana tu, zaidi ya elf Moja walichinjwa 🥱🥱🥱🥱 View attachment 2831269

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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Kipanya44 una habari kuwa mji wa Marinka umeshanguka.

Mwenzako T14 Armata kashaungama kwenya madhabau ya moscow.kasema hakuna uwezekano wa Nato kushinda hii vita

MWANAHARAMU · Dec 2, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Kipanya44 una habari kuwa mji wa Marinka umeshanguka.

Mwenzako T14 Armata kashaungama kwenya madhabau ya moscow.kasema hakuna uwezekano wa Nato kushinda hii vita

Kipanya mzee wa takwimu utasikia 530 leo wamekufa.

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] Mji wa Marinka ulikuwa unanikela kutochukuliwa mapema.

Bado Siversk haka kamji Nako Ukirene wameufanya ngome.

Uraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Jacob kalokola · Dec 2, 2023

Lwiva said:
Ukweli ni kwamba silaha za urusi zina tec kubwa kuliko za nato ...ugumu wa kulipua kifaru kimoja cha urusi kilicho na high tec ni sawa na kulipua vifaru 8 vya marekani vyenye high tec....vifaru vya marekani vilikuwa vina shindwa hata kumuona adui maana havikuweza kata kumsogerea mrusi umbali wa km 8 uso kwa uso vililipuliwa vikiwa mbali kabisa na adui vingine vili haribika vyenyewe bila hata ya kuguswa na adui

Ukraine imekiri kabisa kuwa vifaru vya Marekani vinahitaji Service walau ya air cleaner Mara 1 kwa masaa 12 na ni vizito vinazama.

Jacob kalokola · Dec 2, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Kipanya44 una habari kuwa mji wa Marinka umeshanguka.

Mwenzako T14 Armata kashaungama kwenya madhabau ya moscow.kasema hakuna uwezekano wa Nato kushinda hii vita

Umetwaliwa? Mbona BBC hawatangazi!
Sijuhi nao utatwaliwa?
Maana Warusi kila wakiteka mji wanaugeuza wao.huo ni ujambazi.

Proved · Dec 2, 2023

Lwiva said:
Ukweli ni kwamba silaha za urusi zina tec kubwa kuliko za nato ...ugumu wa kulipua kifaru kimoja cha urusi kilicho na high tec ni sawa na kulipua vifaru 8 vya marekani vyenye high tec....vifaru vya marekani vilikuwa vina shindwa hata kumuona adui maana havikuweza kata kumsogerea mrusi umbali wa km 8 uso kwa uso vililipuliwa vikiwa mbali kabisa na adui vingine vili haribika vyenyewe bila hata ya kuguswa na adui

Hichi uliochoandika ni propaganda tu zisizo ukweli wala uhalisia wowote.

Ingekuwa ulichokiandika ni ukweli, Urusi isingepoteza vifaru 2000+ mpaka sasa huko Ukraine.

Russia Lost A Staggering 2400 Tanks, 200 Aircraft, 400,000 Personnel In Ukraine War: UK Defense Ministry

Since the beginning of its military invasion of Ukraine, Russia has lost 400,000 personnel and over 2,400 main battle tanks, which account for around 15 percent of its pre-war inventory. Armed Rebels Seize Nearly 50% Of Myanmar In Military Offensive; Junta Says Nation On The Brink Of Breaking...

www.google.com

Lwiva · Dec 2, 2023

Proved said:
Hichi uliochoandika ni propaganda tu zisizo ukweli wala uhalisia wowote.

Ingekuwa ulichokiandika ni ukweli, Urusi isingepoteza vifaru 2000+ mpaka sasa huko Ukraine.

Ukraine Has Caught Up With Russia’s Tank Numbers, Data Signal

New data on military aid to Ukraine highlights a significant change in the balance of heavy weapons on the nation’s battlefields after more than 16 months of war.

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Nimelinganisha vifaru kwa vifaru

Proved · Dec 2, 2023

Lwiva said:
Nimelinganisha vifaru kwa vifaru

Unapolinganisha vifaru kuna mambo mengi sana ya kuangalia.

How Big is the Difference Between Western and Soviet Tanks and Why Its Not Just About Weight or Automatic Ammo Loading | Defense Express

The rivalry between Western-school and Soviet tanks was hot even long before the Ukrainian-russian war, and while indulging is speculations about trivia like the combat weight or automatic loading system, experts often forget about things that really matter

www.google.com

T14 Armata

lee Vladimir cleef · Dec 2, 2023

Proved said:
Na hapo kwenye attrition Urusi ndiye mnufaika mkubwa mno, maana ana man power ya kutosha na artillery zisizo na idadi.....hivyo mwishowe Ukraine atashindwa.

Nadhani pia Urusi walikuwa na muda mrefu sana wa kutengeneza defense lines imara kuzuia counter offensive,

Bado tena Ukraine hana airpower nzuri ya kutoa support kwa offensive yake.

Kiufupi Ukraine sioni kama atatoboa kwenye hii counter offensive na wafadhili wake ndio hao wamegeukia huko Gaza na uchaguzi wa Marekani huenda ukaharibu kabisa mambo.

Proved hapa umeongea kwa kuongozwa na facts na kwa Hali hii umejikuta unaongea kama pro Russia.
Hiyo ndio Hali halisi hakuna namna Ukraine ataweza kuishinda Urusi.

lee Vladimir cleef · Dec 2, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] mmeanza kunena kwa lugha.tuliwambia nyie ila hamkutaka kusikia, sasa kipo wapi.

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂😃😃

Lwiva · Dec 2, 2023

Proved said:
Unapolinganisha vifaru kuna mambo mengi sana ya kuangalia.

How Big is the Difference Between Western and Soviet Tanks and Why Its Not Just About Weight or Automatic Ammo Loading | Defense Express

The rivalry between Western-school and Soviet tanks was hot even long before the Ukrainian-russian war, and while indulging is speculations about trivia like the combat weight or automatic loading system, experts often forget about things that really matter

www.google.com

T14 Armata

Pia elewa lengo la urusi mwanzoni lilikuwa tofauti kabla ya ya nato kuingilia kati ...urusi ilikuwa imeingia ndani kabisa ya ukrain bila ya kuangamiza jeshi la ukrain ...maana yake jeshi la ukrain lilishaona ni tatizo kupigana na urusi ...sasa nambo yalipo badilika gafla kwa nato kuingilia ndani ya mzozo ....urusi ilikuwa ndani kabisa ya ukrain bila kuua maaskali wa ukrain hivyo upepo ulipo geuka russia ikabidi kurudi nyuma na kupata hasara kubwa ya vifaru ..pia mimi sikuongelea vifaru vyovyote bali vile vya high tec

lee Vladimir cleef · Dec 2, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
Kwa iyo unashauri nini kifanyike mchambuzi wetu[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

😂🤣🤣😃😂🤣🙌🙌🙌

lee Vladimir cleef · Dec 2, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Kipanya44 una habari kuwa mji wa Marinka umeshanguka.

Mwenzako T14 Armata kashaungama kwenya madhabau ya moscow.kasema hakuna uwezekano wa Nato kushinda hii vita

🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

lee Vladimir cleef · Dec 2, 2023

Jacob kalokola said:
Umetwaliwa? Mbona BBC hawatangazi!
Sijuhi nao utatwaliwa?
Maana Warusi kila wakiteka mji wanaugeuza wao.huo ni ujambazi.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😃😃😃

lee Vladimir cleef · Dec 2, 2023

Jacob kalokola said:
Ukraine imekiri kabisa kuwa vifaru vya Marekani vinahitaji Service walau ya air cleaner Mara 1 kwa masaa 12 na ni vizito vinazama.

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

Jacob kalokola · Dec 2, 2023

Lwiva said:
Pia elewa lengo la urusi mwanzoni lilikuwa tofauti kabla ya ya nato kuingilia kati ...urusi ilikuwa imeingia ndani kabisa ya ukrain bila ya kuangamiza jeshi la ukrain ...maana yake jeshi la ukrain lilishaona ni tatizo kupigana na urusi ...sasa nambo yalipo badilika gafla kwa nato kuingilia ndani ya mzozo ....urusi ilikuwa ndani kabisa ya ukrain bila kuua maaskali wa ukrain hivyo upepo ulipo geuka russia ikabidi kurudi nyuma na kupata hasara kubwa ya vifaru ..pia mimi sikuongelea vifaru vyovyote bali vile vya high tec

Vifaru vya high tech havikuingia Ukraine. Umeeleweka.

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