Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

US was turning Ukraine into base for strikes on Russia — former US military adviser​

BUSH BIN LADEN said:

Hapa ndo hua nashindwa kuelewa. Kwahiyo lengo la nato lilikuwa lipi kum support Ukraine wakati wanajua mwisho wa siku hawezi kushinda? Hesabu hapa ilikuwa ipi? Yaani bondia wako aingie kwenye ring ila umvalishe kofia ngumu asiumie kichwa huku umemfunga mikono asimshambulie adui? Bado kuna kitu hakieleweki. Kwangu naona bora wangemsaidia awage total war ikibidi na wao waingie mazima wamkarishe kabisa Urusi au ni bora wangeacha kabisa wakakubaliana na masharti ya Urusi kuliko hiki kituko walichokifanya kinacheelekea kuisha kwa Ukraine kubomoka na kuvunjika vunjika vipande

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T14 Armata said:

Kwani mkuu ni lini Ukraine alikuwa na nafasi ya kushinda. Tangu February 2022 mpaka sasa hivi November 2023 taja ni mwezi gani Ukraine alikuwa na chance ya kushinda vita.

Kinachotokea hapa sio ajabu, kilichotokea nyuma ndio ajabu Urusi nchi ya pili kwa uwezo wa kijeshi kushindwa kupigana na jirani unayevuka kwa miguu. Jirani ambaye jeshi lake ni dhaifu kuliko hata majirani zake Finland na Poland.

Kitu gani kwenye mlinganyo ni favourable kwa Ukraine tangu vita haijaanza? Si population size, sio idadi ya wanajeshi, sio uchumi, sio ukubwa wa jeshi.
Hakuna miujiza vitani, ni courage kwa Ukraine na uzembe kwa Urusi vita inaendelea mpaka sasa. Hii sio vita ya insurgents au magaidi, ilitakiwa Urusi iwe imeshinda muda mrefu kulingana na mlinganyo wao ulivyo.

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Cushite said:

Soon mtasikia habari za Zelenzky kuliwa kichwa.

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Cushite said:

Soon mtasikia habari za Zelenzky kuliwa kichwa.

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lee Vladimir cleef said:

^I will leave it to the Ukrainians and military commanders to make these difficult operational decisions,^ Stoltenberg said.

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lee Vladimir cleef said:

^Wars are inherently unpredictable,^ the official said. ^But we know that the more we support Ukraine, the faster the war will end.^

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T14 Armata said:

Urusi ateswe na Ukraine isiyo na navy aje apigane na China yenye navy kubwa zaidi ya mara mbili kuzidi Urusi.

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kp kipanya44 said:

Wale mnaosema Ukraine kachoka soma maelezo haya;

⚡⚡U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin criticized those endorsing "an American retreat from responsibility" at the Reagan National Defense Forum, emphasizing the necessity for consistent U.S. leadership to contribute to a world that remains as safe, free, and prosperous as possible.

Austin delivered a lengthy defense of U.S. support to Ukraine in its war against Russia and Israel in its war against Hamas on Dec. 2.

"In both Israel and Ukraine, democracies are fighting ruthless foes who are out to annihilate them," Austin said. "And we will not let Hamas or Putin win. And we will not let our enemies divide or weaken us. So as we surge support into Israel, we remain focused on Ukraine. And we remain fully able to project power, to uphold our commitments, and to direct resources to multiple theaters."

Austin said that in the 21 months "into Putin's unsuccessful conquest, the Russian military has significantly weakened, thanks in large part to Ukraine's courageous troops." The achievements, he said, are also result from bipartisan U.S. leadership and the coalition of approximately 50 countries formed.

Since the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022 the U.S. has delivered about $44 billion worth of security aid to Ukraine. As the U.S. Congress has recently failed to approve any new financial support for the wars in Ukraine and Israel and has managed to pass only a short-term budget bill, Austin emphasized that "we still urgently need bipartisan support in Congress to pass the supplemental to rush security assistance to our partners in Ukraine, Israel, and elsewhere."⚡⚡

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Proved said:

Nani atamla ? Au Putin ?

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lee Vladimir cleef said:

US was turning Ukraine into base for strikes on Russia — former US military adviser​

"The Russians has finally felt compelled to intervene and they have," Douglas Macgregor added

NEW YORK, For years, the United States had been turning Ukraine into a base for strikes on Russia, and Moscow had no other choice but to respond, said Col. (ret.) Douglas Macgregor, who was the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Donald Trump administration.
Macgregor said in a video, posted on his YouTube channel, that the US media has "systematically misinformed" the American public about events in eastern Europe and portrayed Russia’s special operation as an "unprovoked attack" on Ukraine.
"There's a lot of nonsense," he said. "We've been working for years building up this enormous 600,000 man standing army with one purpose in mind to attack Russia and turn Eastern Ukraine into a platform for attacks on everything in Russia, including the use of theater ballistic missiles."
"The Russians has finally felt compelled to intervene and they have," Macgregor added.

On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that, in response to a request from the Donbass republics, he made a decision to carry out a special military operation in Ukraine. He underscored that Moscow does not plan to occupy Ukrainian territories, instead planning to demilitarize and denazify the country. In response, the West started introducing sweeping sanctions against Russia and shipping weapons and military vehicles to Kiev already worth tens of billions of dollars at this point.

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Jasmoni Tegga said:

kp kipanya44
T14 Armata
Proved
vunjo
Joe biden
@Volodymyr Zelensky
@Zaluzhny
@Stoltenberg

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T14 Armata said:

Ukraine haina Navy kabisa kabisa, almost haina fighter jets na haina silaha nyingi sana za muhimu vitani.
Marekani hajaamua kuwa serious kivile kama alivyokuwa kwenye WW2 alivyotoa war materiel kwa USSR dhidi ya Nazi Germany. Msaada wa silaha chache hauwezi kukufanya useme Ukraine imekuwa na nguvu, mafunzo bila silaha ndio nini sasa hao NATO wakifanya mafunzo huwa hawanunui silaha za kutosha?

Ukraine hailingani wala haikaribii kulingana na NATO. Tazama hata drills zao zinavyokuwa structured na vitu gani vinahusishwa. Kupata mafunzo hata Kenya hapo wana trainers wa Marekani na Uingereza wanashinda nao permanently based kambi Nanyuki ila Kenya haiwezi kuwa kama wao.

NATO ikufundishe uwe kama wao wakati huna ndege zao, huna vifaru vyao, huna Navy, huna artillery zao hata standard mm yako ni 122mm na chache 152mm wakati yao ni 155mm. Hata rifles zako ni cartridges tofauti na zao.

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kp kipanya44 said:

Wale mnaosema Ukraine kachoka soma maelezo haya;

⚡⚡U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin criticized those endorsing "an American retreat from responsibility" at the Reagan National Defense Forum, emphasizing the necessity for consistent U.S. leadership to contribute to a world that remains as safe, free, and prosperous as possible.

Austin delivered a lengthy defense of U.S. support to Ukraine in its war against Russia and Israel in its war against Hamas on Dec. 2.

"In both Israel and Ukraine, democracies are fighting ruthless foes who are out to annihilate them," Austin said. "And we will not let Hamas or Putin win. And we will not let our enemies divide or weaken us. So as we surge support into Israel, we remain focused on Ukraine. And we remain fully able to project power, to uphold our commitments, and to direct resources to multiple theaters."

Austin said that in the 21 months "into Putin's unsuccessful conquest, the Russian military has significantly weakened, thanks in large part to Ukraine's courageous troops." The achievements, he said, are also result from bipartisan U.S. leadership and the coalition of approximately 50 countries formed.

Since the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022 the U.S. has delivered about $44 billion worth of security aid to Ukraine. As the U.S. Congress has recently failed to approve any new financial support for the wars in Ukraine and Israel and has managed to pass only a short-term budget bill, Austin emphasized that "we still urgently need bipartisan support in Congress to pass the supplemental to rush security assistance to our partners in Ukraine, Israel, and elsewhere."⚡⚡

📸: President's Officehay

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kp kipanya44 said:

Wale mnaosema Ukraine kachoka soma maelezo haya;

⚡⚡U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin criticized those endorsing "an American retreat from responsibility" at the Reagan National Defense Forum, emphasizing the necessity for consistent U.S. leadership to contribute to a world that remains as safe, free, and prosperous as possible.

Austin delivered a lengthy defense of U.S. support to Ukraine in its war against Russia and Israel in its war against Hamas on Dec. 2.

"In both Israel and Ukraine, democracies are fighting ruthless foes who are out to annihilate them," Austin said. "And we will not let Hamas or Putin win. And we will not let our enemies divide or weaken us. So as we surge support into Israel, we remain focused on Ukraine. And we remain fully able to project power, to uphold our commitments, and to direct resources to multiple theaters."

Austin said that in the 21 months "into Putin's unsuccessful conquest, the Russian military has significantly weakened, thanks in large part to Ukraine's courageous troops." The achievements, he said, are also result from bipartisan U.S. leadership and the coalition of approximately 50 countries formed.

Since the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022 the U.S. has delivered about $44 billion worth of security aid to Ukraine. As the U.S. Congress has recently failed to approve any new financial support for the wars in Ukraine and Israel and has managed to pass only a short-term budget bill, Austin emphasized that "we still urgently need bipartisan support in Congress to pass the supplemental to rush security assistance to our partners in Ukraine, Israel, and elsewhere."⚡⚡

📸: President's Off

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kp kipanya44 said:

Wale mnaosema Ukraine kachoka soma maelezo haya;

⚡⚡U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin criticized those endorsing "an American retreat from responsibility" at the Reagan National Defense Forum, emphasizing the necessity for consistent U.S. leadership to contribute to a world that remains as safe, free, and prosperous as possible.

Austin delivered a lengthy defense of U.S. support to Ukraine in its war against Russia and Israel in its war against Hamas on Dec. 2.

"In both Israel and Ukraine, democracies are fighting ruthless foes who are out to annihilate them," Austin said. "And we will not let Hamas or Putin win. And we will not let our enemies divide or weaken us. So as we surge support into Israel, we remain focused on Ukraine. And we remain fully able to project power, to uphold our commitments, and to direct resources to multiple theaters."

Austin said that in the 21 months "into Putin's unsuccessful conquest, the Russian military has significantly weakened, thanks in large part to Ukraine's courageous troops." The achievements, he said, are also result from bipartisan U.S. leadership and the coalition of approximately 50 countries formed.

Since the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022 the U.S. has delivered about $44 billion worth of security aid to Ukraine. As the U.S. Congress has recently failed to approve any new financial support for the wars in Ukraine and Israel and has managed to pass only a short-term budget bill, Austin emphasized that "we still urgently need bipartisan support in Congress to pass the supplemental to rush security assistance to our partners in Ukraine, Israel, and elsewhere."⚡⚡

📸: President's Office

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BUSH BIN LADEN said:

Umemtaja bwana vunjo nimekumbuka vidio zake za the sun, jamaa alikuwa na vitisho sana

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T14 Armata said:

Marekani haina mpango wa kupigana na Urusi, ila nyinyi mnaolialia Urusi inapigwa na Marekani ndio muifanye Urusi iivamie Marekani ama sivyo basi Urusi inaogopa. Hamuwezi kudai Urusi inapigana na Marekani mara NATO na yenyewe ipo tu inajificha.

Unaijua Red Army?
Hata jeshi la Urusi hulijui kumbe. Sasa unachangia nini.

Wafungwa wa Urusi wanamiliki Moskva missile cruiser ya tani 11,000 iliyozamishwa vitani?

Wafungwa ndio Rais Putin alipitisha mobilization? Last time Urusi unafanya mobilization kabla ya 2022 ni 1941 Putin hajazaliwa.

Wafungwa wanamiliki S-400, Kinzhal, fighter jets?

Majenerali wa Urusi waliouwawa vitani ni wafungwa? Urusi imekubali majenerali 7 wamefariki vitani. Hao ni wafungwa, Chechens au PMC?

Unadharau teknolojia ndio maana jeshi la Urusi ni kufa kwa wingi. Wao ni kujaza idadi ya watu kama wanaenda hija.

Na hiyo bei mbaya ya platform za Marekani si ni kwa sababu hela ipo. Sasa Urusi hata ikitaka silaha za bei mbaya hela itoe wapi wakati GDP yao ni level za jimbo la California.

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