Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

lee Vladimir cleef said:
10 MAR,
Ex-Prime Minister of UK discussed Ukrainian conflict with Venezuelan President — newspaper

According to The Sunday Times, Boris Johnson discussed the conflict in Ukraine with Nicolas Maduro amid speculations of potential supplies of armament and other materiel by Venezuela to Russia
LONDON, March 10. Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson paid a secret visit to Caracas in February, when he met President of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro, The Sunday Times newspaper reported, citing sources.

Johnson arrived in Caracas on board of a private jet flying from the Dominican Republic, sources said. The ex-prime minister discussed the conflict in Ukraine with Maduro amid speculations of potential supplies of armament and other materiel by Venezuela to Russia, the newspaper said.

Johnson also held talks on conditions of normalization of relations between the two countries, The Sunday Times reported.
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Hicho kitu wasahau walitaifisha pesa zao hawawezi kuwasamehe
 
Zitaje hizo bomba kwa majina.
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moja inaitwa ORSIS T-5000
 
MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE
10 MAR, 18:10
Top Polish diplomat says that NATO troops are already in Ukraine

MOSCOW, March 10.
NATO troops are already present in Ukraine, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said.

"The NATO military are already present in Ukraine. And I would like to sincerely thank the representatives of these countries for taking this risk," he told a conference dedicated to the 25th anniversary of Poland’s membership in NATO.

After a conference on Ukraine in Paris on February 26, Macron said that the participants had considered sending ground troops to Ukraine. Although no consensus was reached on this topic, he left the door open to such a scenario in the future. After the conference, most of the participating counties stated that they have no plans to send troops to Ukraine to fight against Russia.

Commenting on Macron’s statements, Russian presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that a direct military conflict between NATO and Russia will be inevitable if Western troops are sent to Ukraine. He also said NATO countries "should also assess" the consequences of such actions and be aware of them.
 
lee Vladimir cleef said:
MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE
10 MAR, 18:10
Top Polish diplomat says that NATO troops are already in Ukraine

MOSCOW, March 10.
NATO troops are already present in Ukraine, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said.

"The NATO military are already present in Ukraine. And I would like to sincerely thank the representatives of these countries for taking this risk," he told a conference dedicated to the 25th anniversary of Poland’s membership in NATO.

After a conference on Ukraine in Paris on February 26, Macron said that the participants had considered sending ground troops to Ukraine. Although no consensus was reached on this topic, he left the door open to such a scenario in the future. After the conference, most of the participating counties stated that they have no plans to send troops to Ukraine to fight against Russia.

Commenting on Macron’s statements, Russian presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that a direct military conflict between NATO and Russia will be inevitable if Western troops are sent to Ukraine. He also said NATO countries "should also assess" the consequences of such actions and be aware of them.
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ni nini hiki kinaenda kutokea
 
millerson said:
ikiwa inasemekana kuna baadhi ya wanachama wa nato wameshapeleka wanajeshi wao pale ukrein ni mwanzo wa dalili za nini mkuu
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Ikiwa kansela ,ujeremani,waziri Mkuu wa UK, Rais wa USA na Rais wa Poland wamekataa kupeleka askari wao hao ufaransa na vikina Lithuenia,Latvia ni vijidagaa TU
Mkuu hao waliokataa wanajua kabisa kupigana na nchi yenye nyukilia kama Urusi ni kumaliza kizazi hiki na maendeleo yake,kuifanya Dunia kurudi zama za mawe.
Huyo ufaransa na wenzie wanajaribu kumvuta Putin kwenye Meza ya mazungumzo kwa mashrti Yao.
 
Kiev rejects pope’s ‘white flag’ appeal
The Vatican should avoid repeating the mistakes of the past when talking about the conflict in Ukraine, the foreign minister said

Pope Francis was wrong to suggest that Kiev should restart negotiations with Moscow, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba has said. The pontiff ruffled some feathers in Ukraine this week by speaking about the importance of having “the courage of the white flag.”

“When it comes to the white flag, we know this Vatican’s strategy from the first half of the twentieth century,” Kuleba wrote on X (formerly Twitter), apparently referring to the policy of neutrality pursued by Pope Pius XII during World War II.

Kuleba urged the Vatican to “avoid repeating the mistakes of the past and to support Ukraine and its people.”

“Our flag is a yellow and blue one. This is the flag by which we live, die, and prevail. We shall never raise any other flags,” the minister wrote.

In an interview with Swiss broadcaster RSI published on Saturday, the pontiff urged to have “the courage of the white flag,” and suggested that the parties should restart peace talks.
 
lee Vladimir cleef said:
Ikiwa kansela ,ujeremani,waziri Mkuu wa UK, Rais wa USA na Rais wa Poland wamekataa kupeleka askari wao hao ufaransa na vikina Lithuenia,Latvia ni vijidagaa TU
Mkuu hao waliokataa wanajua kabisa kupigana na nchi yenye nyukilia kama Urusi ni kumaliza kizazi hiki na maendeleo yake,kuifanya Dunia kurudi zama za mawe.
Huyo ufaransa na wenzie wanajaribu kumvuta Putin kwenye Meza ya mazungumzo kwa mashrti Yao.
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Anaeelekea kushinda kwenye vita ndie anaeweka masharti ya kumaliza vita.
 
Richard said:
Anaeelekea kushinda kwenye vita ndie anaeweka masharti ya kumaliza vita.
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Hakika kabisa.
Na mpaka kufikia hapa Urusi ndio anaelekea kushinda..
Ushahidi ni kama huu,yaani wamepelela Kila aina ya misaada,lakini haijasaidiwa,Sasa wanaongelea kuingiza jeshi la NATO.
Ikiwa hivyo maana yake Ukraine wameshashindwa Sasa NATO ndio wanataka kuingia.
Hata hivyo ni mwendawazimu TU ndio anaweza kupeleka majeshi ya NATO kwenda kupigana na Urusi.
Vita hiyo haitakua sawa na hii smo tunayoiona leo.kuna nchi zitakalishwa mapema kabisa ili kuondoa usumbufu halafu Sasa itaanza vita ya kuharibu masatelaiti na ma rada,mwisho wa siku miundombinu.
Sasa hebu fikiria miundo mbinu ya west na hata ya Urusi iliyojengwavkwa Karne mbili ije kubomolewa kwa wiki tatu.hakuna mjingavwa hivyo.
Hata hivyo NATO wakiingia Urusi nae maswahiba zake nao wataingia upande wake.tayari hiyo ni vita kubwa mno.
Nani ataruhusu Hali hiyo?
Kwa maslahi Gani? Na kwa faida ya nani?
Mimi bado siiamini kabisa kama NATO kweli achilia mbali askari mmoja mmoja kutoka nchi mojamoja za NATO kama wataingia vitani na Urusi.
 
lee Vladimir cleef said:
Hakika kabisa.
Na mpaka kufikia hapa Urusi ndio anaelekea kushinda..
Ushahidi ni kama huu,yaani wamepelela Kila aina ya misaada,lakini haijasaidiwa,Sasa wanaongelea kuingiza jeshi la NATO.
Ikiwa hivyo maana yake Ukraine wameshashindwa Sasa NATO ndio wanataka kuingia.
Hata hivyo ni mwendawazimu TU ndio anaweza kupeleka majeshi ya NATO kwenda kupigana na Urusi.
Vita hiyo haitakua sawa na hii smo tunayoiona leo.kuna nchi zitakalishwa mapema kabisa ili kuondoa usumbufu halafu Sasa itaanza vita ya kuharibu masatelaiti na ma rada,mwisho wa siku miundombinu.
Sasa hebu fikiria miundo mbinu ya west na hata ya Urusi iliyojengwavkwa Karne mbili ije kubomolewa kwa wiki tatu.hakuna mjingavwa hivyo.
Hata hivyo NATO wakiingia Urusi nae maswahiba zake nao wataingia upande wake.tayari hiyo ni vita kubwa mno.
Nani ataruhusu Hali hiyo?
Kwa maslahi Gani? Na kwa faida ya nani?
Mimi bado siiamini kabisa kama NATO kweli achilia mbali askari mmoja mmoja kutoka nchi mojamoja za NATO kama wataingia vitani na Urusi.
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Mimi siwezi kushangaa NATO kupeleka majeshi Ukraine ukizingatia NATO ni US. Hao wengine ni vibaraka wasio na maamuzi.

Russia wana lengo pana zaidi kwenye hii vita ambalo ni kumaliza ukiritimba wa US duniani. Wakifanikiwa kwenye hili US ataathirika sana kiuchumi.

Tusitarajie US kukubali kukalishwa kirahisi. Atatumia kila mbinu, ikiwezekana hata hizo silaha za maangamizi, kuhakikisha anabaki na ushawishi/utapeli alionao duniani.

Kauli tunazosikia hizi za "hatutakubali Putin ashinde" zinaashiria hatari iliyo mbele ya dunia.
 
Gagnija said:
Mimi siwezi kushangaa NATO kupeleka majeshi Ukraine ukizingatia NATO ni US. Hao wengine ni vibaraka wasio na maamuzi.

Russia wana lengo pana zaidi kwenye hii vita ambalo ni kumaliza ukiritimba wa US duniani. Wakifanikiwa kwenye hili US ataathirika sana kiuchumi.

Tusitarajie US kukubali kukalishwa kirahisi. Atatumia kila mbinu, ikiwezekana hata hizo silaha za maangamizi, kuhakikisha anabaki na ushawishi/utapeli alionao duniani.

Kauli tunazosikia hizi za "hatutakubali Putin ashinde" zinaashiria hatari iliyo mbele ya dunia.
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Dedollarization is inevitable. BRICS sasa inazaidi ya 35% ya total world's GDP.

Kwa hiyo vita zote chini ya jua ni vita za kiuchumi (directly or indirectly/subliminally).
Na alichokosea Marekani kuji expose uwezo wake kwa kile alichokifanya kwa kumzuia Urusi kutumia Swift
 
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