Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Ncb]

Kwanza inabidi uelewe tofauti ya vita na SMO.Ukraine yuko vitani - ndo maana unaona kuna Marshall laws, Rais kaongezewa nguvu, wanaume wamepigwa marufuku kuondoka Ukraine, Mobilization (Forced mobilization)..civilian military groups, Hakuna cha uchaguzi, kila kitu ni vita tu.

Russia akitangaza vita:
1.Uchumi wote:Industrial production zitabadirika - war economy...viwanda vinavyotengeneza civilian products asilimia kubwa vitapaswa kuzalisha mahitaji ya kijeshi

2 Marshall Law: Mambo ya uchaguzi, maisha ya kawaida hakuna

3.Full country mobilization: watu karibia 30M watapaswa kwenda vitank
4.Kutoka nje ya nchi itakuwa ni ngumu ili watu wasitoroke.

5.Huyo Putin ataongezewa nguvu kikatiba ya kuweza kuhandle mambo moja kwa moja...

6.Bunge lingetangaziwa fully na kupitisha.

7.Military exercises hakuna: Wote ni real war.Sasa hivi Russia Navy wako pacific huko wanafanya mazoezi utafikiri hawajui kinachoendelea.

8.Unlimited use ya silaha.Silaa za maangamizi nzitonzito ungeziskia - hata zilizozuiliwa.Watu wangepigwa hadi chemical weapons, (Kasome alichokua anakifanya USA kwa Wa - Vietnam.)
9.Total unhiliation ya miji: Kiev, Odess,Kharkiv,l usingeziona zimesimama....

10.Watu wengi zaidi wangekufa sababu ingekuwa ni kurusha makombora kwa lengo la kuharibu..

11.Hayo majengo ya Bunge la Ukraine, Serikali yasingekuwa yamesimama.

Nenda kaone anachokifanya Israel Gaza ndo utaelewa utofauti.vitu vinashushwa popote tu.
Au nenda kaangalie Berlin ilivyokua 1945....pamoja na mija mingine ya Ulaya au Japan ndo utaelewa utofauti wa kinachoendelea Ukraine.

Umemaliza🙌🙌🙌👍👍👍👏👏👏

 

[Ncb]

Mmmmhhh naangaliaga tu hizo losses za Ukraine hapo kurk ni za kweli au zinapikwa maana zipo Kasi balaa

The ministry noted that over the period of combat operations in the Kursk area, the enemy has lost over 12,200 personnel, 96 tanks, 42 infantry fighting vehicles
MOSCOW, September 11. /TASS/. The Ukrainian armed forces have lost over 350 servicemen and 13 armored vehicles, including three tanks, in the borderline Kursk area over the past 24 hours, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Wednesday.

"Over the past 24 hours, the Ukrainian army’s losses amounted to over 350 personnel and 13 armored vehicles, including three tanks, three armored personnel carriers, seven armored combat vehicles, as well as an artillery gun, two multiple rocket launch systems and 19 motor vehicles," the ministry said in a statement.

The ministry added that over the period of combat operations in the Kursk area, the enemy has lost over 12,200 personnel, 96 tanks, 42 infantry fighting vehicles, 77 armored personnel carriers, 656 armored combat vehicles, 401 motor vehicles, 90 artillery guns, 26 multiple launch rocket systems, including seven HIMARS rocket launchers and five M270 MLRS, eight surface-to-air missile systems, two transporter-loader vehicles, 22 electronic warfare stations and seven counter-battery radar stations, two air-defense radar systems, eight engineering vehicles, among them two obstacle-clearing vehicles and one UR-77 mine-clearing vehicle.

 

[Narumu yetu]

Umemwelewe Richard kweli wewe?
Au Kila mtu anaongea lwake?
Richard anasema wanajeshi wa Ukraine waliovamia mkoa wa kursk jukumu la kuwafurusha wamepewa wa Chechen.
Sio Ukraine nzima.

Huko kursk vikosi vya urusi vinavyopigana na wavamizi kimojawapo ndio hao Spertnaz Akhmat,Hawa ni kutoka Urusi mkoa wa Chechen.
Huko ndani ya Ukraine wanajeshi wengine wa Urusi wanaendelea kuchukua miji.

Wanachukua mji gan alaf inaingia akilini super power mpaka leo kavamiwa amezima, Jana drones kma 200 zimetanda anga la super power wa mchongo

 

[Nickson francis]

Dah!
unapenda sana ligi za kishule ya sekondari.
Sasa Mimi nakuambia uvamizi wa kursk ni sehemu ya SMO.
Kwa sababu smo ndio umepelekea Ukraine kujibu kwa kuvamia kursk.
Hao wavamizi wanapigwa Kila siku na watashindwa TU.
Tatizo lenu nyinyi mnataka waondolewa Kwa siku moja Kwa wao Ukraine ni wajinga?
Unaambiwa waliondoa wanajeshi Bora kutoka ndani ya Ukraine kuja kursk kwa hiyo wanajua mbinu za kukabilaina na majeshi ya Urusi.

Unaona wanavyoiandika wenyewe?

MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE
11 SEP, 14:08

Ukraine’s army loses over 350 troops in Kursk area over past day — Russia’s top brass

in the Kursk area, the enemy has lost over 12,200

Wewe sasa unatudanganya, yani nchi ivamiwe nabado utuambie ni SMO, hatakama ni ushabiki punguza mkuu,

 

[Kalicho]

Haaahaaa!! Eti UK inaweza futika na kuzamishwa. WABONGO HEBU ACHENI UJUAJI. Yaani wewe unajua kuliko Muingereza mwenyewe. Kama ingekuwa hivyo unafikiri UK angesubutu kuichokoza Russia. Kimsingi hayo mataifa makubwa ya Magharibi yameshafanya tathimini na wanajua Russia anapigika tu na wanachofanya ni hatua kwa hatua kwa kuitumia Ukraine. IPO SIKU DUNIA ITASHANGAZWA ITAKAPOSIKIA NUCLEAR PLANS ZOTE ZA RUSSIA ZIMEPIPIGWA ILI MADHARA YABAKI KWAO HUKOHUKO.

PIA KWENYE HII DUNIA MWENYE JEURI YA KUTAMBIA NUCLEAR NI MAREKANI TU MAANA NI YEYE TU AMBAYE ALIIFANYIA KAZI . WENGINE WANAWEZA KUSEMA WANA NUCLEAR LAKINI KUMBE NI TUI LA TATU LA NAZI

Sasa wewe na huyo uliesema ni mjuaji mna tofauti gani??? Mfumo wa elimu wa Tanzania unazalisha watu wa ajabu sana

 

[Kokolo]

Majeneza wanajeshi wa NATO wanakufa sana. , leo wamefika 12,200. Wameshazingilwa hawatoki, kwenda mbele hawaendi nyuma hawarudi wanauwawa kama siafu.

 

[Sela Son]

Ukraine anunue nuclear za magendo ili Urusi akianza na yeye awe na majibu.

Tusubiri na kuona

 

[Kosugi]

Wachana na WW2 ambapo USSR ilipewa misaada na marekani, kwanza USSR ilipoteza wanajeshi wengi kuliko walioshindwa vita, tuongelee vita ya Leo ambapo urusi ipo peke ake, nimekuelewa sana mkuu wangu ila ngoja tuone Putin atafanya nini kuhusu uvamizi huu wa Ukraine

Sawa ila kuhusu USA kumpa msaada USSR hapa umeteleza mkuu.
Katizame vizuri.
Kipindi USSR inaangaika na Germany nayo USA ilikua ikihangaika na Japan.
USA anafika USSR kazi ikiwa ishafanyika.

 

[MWANAHARAMU]

Chenchen Bado haiwezi kuhimili vita na Ukraine hapa tusidanganyane, yani hicho kikosi hakifikishi hata wapiganaji 50000 ndio kije kuhimili vita na nchi? Hili ni jeshi la urusi linapigana na wanaokufa Wana sare jeshi la urusi, Hapa Putin anatakiwa apige kama netanyahu kule gaza, tofauti na hapo Bado Putin katuangusha sanaa

Kwani uliambiwa Chechen ni nchi tofauti?

 

[MWANAHARAMU]

Erdogan?I do not believe he said these words,especially given the fact that his policies and those of the West are so different.I do not believe he would like to be seen as supporting the West since he has shifted his alliance to BRICS.

Waturuki wana uchungu wa kupigwa na kufurumushwa kutoka Crimea na Urusi.

Walipigwa maeneo mengi ya Eastern Europe na kuondolewa na Urusi.

Hivyo kinyongo Chao Cha kale bado kipo na wanatamani wapate nafasi ya kulipa kisasi

 

[Top gear]

Jambo ambalo Russia watalifanya ni kwamba Ukraine akitumia hizo ATCMS, basi tusije kushangaa miji kama Kiev umesambaratishwa kwa mabomu yenye nguvu zaidi na kufanywa majivu.

Hivi Putin akiamua kila ATCMS moja inayotua Moscow,kutakua na Long range bomb 1 inayotua New York shida ingekua wapi?

 

[kp kipanya44]

Hivi Putin akiamua kila ATCMS moja inayotua Moscow,kutakua na Long range bomb 1 inayotua New York shida ingekua wapi?

Thubutuu..,atagombaniwa kama Mpira wa kona

 

[Lee Van free]

Wewe sasa unatudanganya, yani nchi ivamiwe nabado utuambie ni SMO, hatakama ni ushabiki punguza mkuu,

Na wewe kama huna uwezo wa kuelewa jambo usiulize swali.
Pia punguza ushabiki kwa nchi za west.
Kwanza sijui kama unajua tofauti kati ya kudanganya na kusema ukweli.
Ungekua una uwezo wa kuelewa wala usingetilia mashaka jibu langu.
Jibu langu limenyooka ila sema wewe uwezo wako wa kuelewa ndio mdogo haijaliahi una Phd.
Iko hivi,Mimi nimekujibu kwa kufuata kauli na msimamo wa walioianzisha hii SMO.
Wao walioianzisha bado wanaiita SMO licha ya kua Kuna wavamizi Kursk.
Wao hao hao ndio wanajua sabb kwa Nini Hadi Leo wanaiita SMO badala ya Full scale war.
Kama ni uongo wanaosema uongo ni Urusi sio Mimi,Mimi nafuata taarifa za Kremlin.
Kila nchi Ina vigezo vyake kulingana na uwezo wake.
Siku Urusi itakapo tangaza vita kamili ndio tutapata na kujua tofauti kwa Nini waliamua kuiita SMO licha ya kua wlivamiawa..
Uongo wangu uko wapi hapo?
Niambie lini Urusi wamefuta kauli ya smo na kua vita kamili?
Sasa muongo Mimi au Moscow?

 

[Lee Van free]

Thubutuu..,atagombaniwa kama Mpira wa kona

Atagombaniwa kama mpira wa Kona na nani?

 

[Lee Van free]

Hivi Putin akiamua kila ATCMS moja inayotua Moscow,kutakua na Long range bomb 1 inayotua New York shida ingekua wapi?

Mkuu wala hujakosea wazo lako,kwa kifupi hatuko mbali sana na hicho unachokosema.
Imeshafahamika kua Nia ya west ni kutaka kumdhoofisha kijeshi Urusi ili iwe rahisi kumvamia kwa pamoja.
Urusi analijua hilo na Dunia inalijua hilo.
Urusi imechora mstari mwekundu wakivuka TU unachowaza ndicho kinaenda kutokea.
Wala haya sio mawazo Yako peke Yako hata baadhi ya wataalamu wa kijeshi wa west wasiopenda vita wameshaonya na wanaonya Kila siku juu ya ujinga huo ambao NATO wanataka kufanya ndio maana kunahofu ya ww3 na nyukilia war.
Urusi analijua mipango Yao ovu yote.
Hawezi kua Mjinga wakawa wanapiga sehemu muhimu kwake huku yeye amekaa TU.
Kuna kitu atafanya Dunia haitaamini.
Wengi hatuombei ifike huko lkn naona shetani Yuko bize.
Nikuambie kitu Urusi sio china.
Urusi itajibu kwa nguvu mno.

 

[Lee Van free]

Hofu yetu sisi mashabiki wa Urusi ni Ukraine kuendeleza vita vyake huko Kursk, sasa unaenda mwezi wa pili malengo ya Ukraine hayajafanikiwa, lakini uvamizi huu bado umweka doa au mimi ndio nattizama vibaya mkuu

Kumbe wewe ni mashabiki ndio maana unakalili mambo.
Sisis wengine ni washabiki wa haki.
Hivi nyinyi hua mnatoaaga wapi taarifa za muda?
Kwamba Kursk imeshafikwa mwezi,kwani nani aliekuambia wavamizi wataondolewa Kwa siku mbili?
Nitajie ni kiongozi Gani wa Urusi alitoa muda wa kuwaondoa wavamizi.
Doa lipi ndugu kwani Ukraine nao si Wana pigana?
Mbona nyie mnajifanya vipofu na viziwi hamtaki kukubali kua Sasa hivi NATO inapigana na Urusi kwa kiwatumia kivuli Cha Ukraine,au hujui pia uwezo wa NATO.
Hivi unajua kua Ukraine imeenda USA kuomba ruhusa kutumia makombora ya NATO kupiga ndani ya Urusi ,je unadhani ni Kwa Nini Ukraine inayopigwa na Urusi ikaombe ruhusa kwa NATO kuipiga Urusi ?
Hebu muwe mnajiuliza maswali magumu siku moja moja ili kupanua ubongo.

 

[Lee Van free]

NYIE MNAPENDA SANA COMMENT ZA KUWAFURAHISHA MNAYOYAPENDA. MKIONA MTU ANATOA MAONI YANAYOBEBA UPANDE USIOUPENDA MNAKASIRIKA.

HAYA TUFANYE RUSSIA ANAZO HIZO NUCLEAR ZA KUIZAMISHA UK YOTE

Mkuu wala usimlaumu huyo mtaalamu,nadhani alisoma makala hii ya CNN.
Kwa ufupi makala inasema Urusi imeonesha kombora lake lenye uwezo wa kufuta kipande Cha Dunia chenye ukubwa wa jiji la Texas la USA au kuifuta ufaransa katika ramani ya Dunia.
Sasa ukilinganisha kati ya ufaransa na UK utaona ufaransa ni kubwa kwa mara Tatu hivi ya UK.
Habari yenyewe hii hapa.tusimlaumu mtaalamu huyo ana hoja.

World
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Russia unveils ‘Satan 2’ missile, could wipe out France or Texas, report says

By Sebastian Shukla and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN


First photos of Russia's 'Satan 2' missile released
01:12 - Source: CNN
CNN
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A Russian missile design company has unveiled the first image of a new weapon in Russia’s arsenal: the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile, nicknamed “Satan 2.”

The RS-28 Sarmat rocket “is capable of wiping out parts of the earth the size of Texas or France,” Russian state news outlet Sputnik reported in May.

The image was published by the Makeyev Rocket Design Bureau on its website.

Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borsiov said the Sarmat warhead was capable of destroying targets flying across both North and South Poles, Russian state news agency TASS reported Tuesday.

An image published by the Makeyev Rocket Design Bureau of the RS-28 Sarmat rocket, or 'Satan 2.'
An image published by the Makeyev Rocket Design Bureau of the RS-28 Sarmat rocket, or 'Satan 2.'
The missile will have a range exceeding 11,000 kilometers (6,835 miles), TASS said. The warhead will weigh 100 tons and is designed as a successor to the R-36M Voyevoda.

According to a statement posted on the maker's website, "the Sarmat is designed to provide strategic Russian forces with a guaranteed and effective fulfillment of nuclear deterrence tasks" and is being co-developed with the Russian military.

The Makeyev Rocket Design Bureau's website describes it as "one of largest research and design centers in Russia for the development of rocket and space technology."

 

[Lee Van free]

Hivi Putin akiamua kila ATCMS moja inayotua Moscow,kutakua na Long range bomb 1 inayotua New York shida ingekua wapi?

Ndugu yangu kumbe swali lako kumbe lilishajibiwa .
Ni suala la muda TU.

Why is Russia holding nuclear drills and should the West be worried?

By Guy Faulconbridge and Mark Trevelyan
May 15, 2024.
4 months ago
MOSCOW, May 15 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his military to practise the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons after what Moscow said were threats from France, Britain and the United States.
Why, and what will happen?
WHAT DRILLS WILL TAKE PLACE AND WHERE?
Russia's defence ministry said, opens new tab missile forces in the Southern Military District will take part, together with aviation and the navy. The southern district, headquartered in Rostov-on-Don, lies alongside Ukraine and includes, opens new tab parts of Ukraine which Russia controls. Belarus will also be involved.
The Russian Foreign Ministry linked the drills to what it called "militant statements", opens new tab by Western officials which it said created security threats for Russia. It specifically mentioned French President Emmanuel Macron, British Foreign Secretary David Cameron and the delivery to Ukraine of U.S. Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS).
Macron has floated the idea of sending European troops to fight Russia in Ukraine while Cameron said that Ukraine had a right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia.

 

[Lee Van free]

Nadhani Sasa Kwa wale mliokua mnafikiria kuishinda Urusi ni rahisi someni hapa.
Ila watakao elewa zaidi ni wale waliosome Cuba TU.
Hapa zelensky kapewa za uso na wafadhiri wake.
Huu mgogoro unaenda mwisho.


West tells Ukraine it can’t afford victory – WSJ


Kiev has reportedly been told it must abandon its hopes of defeating the Russian military
West tells Ukraine it can’t afford victory – WSJ

Ukraine’s Western backers have told Kiev that they can’t hand over enough money and weapons to defeat Russia, and that Vladimir Zelensky will need to “come up with a more realistic plan,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

When US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and British Foreign Secretary David Lammy meet with Ukrainian officials in Kiev on Wednesday, they will “discuss how best to define a Ukrainian victory and what aid it will need to achieve that,” anonymous officials told the newspaper.

Behind the scenes, unnamed European diplomats claimed that Kiev is being forced to downgrade its expectations, as Western nations tire of funnelling endless taxpayer cash into the conflict. “Kiev has been told that a full Ukrainian victory would require the West to provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of support, something neither Washington nor Europe can realistically do,” the WSJ stated.

The US and its European allies have provided Ukraine with more than $200 billion in military, economic, and humanitarian aid since the conflict began, with an additional $110 billion pending, according to figures from the Kiel Institute for the World Economy.

Despite the slim prospects of retaking Ukraine’s former territory, Zelensky said in August that he would present a “victory plan” to US President Joe Biden later this month. Zelsnsky suggested that this plan likely involves asking the US for more cash and weapons, saying that victory would depend on Washington giving Kiev “what is in this plan or not.”

However, Ukraine’s costly incursion into Russia’s Kursk Region has weakened its battlefield position. Instead of pulling troops from the Donbass frontline to repel the incursion, as generals in Kiev had hoped, Moscow went on the attack, and its forces have since captured multiple settlements en route to the key logistics hub of Pokrovsk.

Blinken and Lammy pledged nearly $1.5 billion in additional aid to Ukraine on Wednesday, with the former declaring that “we want Ukraine to win.” However, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmigal wrote on Telegram that talks with the two Western diplomats had been “intense.”

Back in Washington, White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby insisted that Blinken did not visit Kiev to push Zelensky into accepting a compromise with Russia. “Certainly a negotiated end is the most likely outcome here, but when that happens, and under what conditions and circumstances, that’s going to be up to President Zelensky,” he told reporters on Wednesday.

 

[Lee Van free]

11 SEP, 22:29
US’ Blinken admits Ukraine’s discussion of strikes at Russia may cause escalation

WASHINGTON, September 11. /TASS/. The United States take into consideration the factor of a potential escalation in Ukraine due to the ongoing discussion of strikes deep into Russian territory with Western weapons by the Ukrainian authorities, US Secretary of State said during the joint press conference with British Foreign Secretary David Lammy and Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrey Sibiga in Kiev.

"You referenced escalation. Of course, that's one of the factors that we always consider. But it's certainly not the only factor, and it's not necessarily a dispositive factor," he said.

The US diplomat also noted that he discussed strikes at Russia during the meeting with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and his British counterpart and plans to report on the outcome of his negotiations to US President Joe Biden.

"I'm going to take that discussion back to Washington to brief the President on what I heard, I know that David [Lammy] is doing the same, and both of our bosses, no doubt, will discuss this when they meet […] on Friday in Washington," he said.

Previously, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the West has apparently already authorized Kiev to carry out strikes at Russian territory with long-range missiles. According to the spokesman, this decision is being formalized in mass media.