Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

TUJITEGEMEE said:
Mtasema wenyewe!
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Kyiv says Russia has launched an intercontinental ballistic missile at Ukraine - it would mark the first attack from such a weapon in almost three years of war

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Ninavyoona hili kombora ndio limetumika Leo Kwa mara ya kwanza na jeshi la Urusi.
Ila Kuna mtindiga mmoja humu juzi alisema eti hakuna silaha ambayo Russia hajatumia.sikutaka kubishana nae,lkn Urusi bado ana silaha nyingi TU hajatumia,ila kadri wanavyokaza shingo nae ataongeza dozi.
Mtu huyo anajijua na ameonesha komenti Yako.
Watu humu wanjifanya wajuaji mno.
 
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milio imeanza kusikika😂😂😂
 
enzo1988 said:
Mwangalie baba yako alivyochanganyikiwa!

Zelenskyy: Russia has used a new missile that has 'characteristics of ICBM'​

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has claimed that Russia used a "new type" of missile in an attack on Ukraine today.

"Today, our crazy neighbour has once again shown what he really is and how he despises dignity, freedom, and human life in general," Zelenskyy said in a statement.
"He is so afraid that he is already using new missiles," he added.

The Ukrainian leader said the missile was of Russian origin, and that it "has all the characteristics - speed, altitude - of an intercontinental ballistic missile".

news.sky.com

Ukraine war latest: Putin may escalate if he doesn't get 'the only thing that can save him' - expert

While Russia's war in Ukraine shows no immediate sign of ending, Kyiv's allies fear Moscow could extend its war elsewhere in Europe. As the conflict enters its fifth year, an expert has suggested Vladimir Putin may eventually opt to escalate. Follow the latest.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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Huyu baladhuri Zelensky si alisema makombora yataongea yenyewe?
Sasa atulie yaongee.
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Aah wapi, hakuna Cha maana urusi anafanya huko,Bora hata angefanya Mass attacks kama alivofanya wiki iliyopita kwa kupiga vituo vya umeme,hiyo kidogo ingesaidia kuwapoza maumivu mashabiki wake 🏃🏃🏃
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Wewe jifariji tu kijana,wewe upo zako Tuliani hapo unakula wali na kambale wa nazi,athari hazikupati wewe bali wale walioko Eastern Europe.
Tuache utani vile vinu ni deadly.
 
Nickson francis said:
Sasa kama Urusi inapigana na NATO kwanini isirushe jiwe kwenye kambi za NATO zilizopo ulaya ili tuamini ni vita rasmi ya Russia vs NATO, sisi tuliopo huku tusubiri hao wakubwa watakachoamua na sio kujifanya wachambuzi wa maswala ya vita, baada ya trump kuapishwa ndio tutajua muelekeo wa hii vita, huwezi sema USA imefilisika kwa kutoa silaha za misaada tuu hapo haijaingia vitani, muda utaongea mkuu tusubiri
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Wewe member hua ni mgumu sana kuelewa halafu mwepesi wa kusahau.
Nimesema hivi,USA na NATO waache kuirushia mawe Urusi wakiwa nyuma ya Ukraine.
Nikaendelea kusema sio tabia ya USA na NATO kuisaidia nchi kijeshi kwa kuipa misaada bila wao kuingia mazima kama walivyofanya Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan na Libya.
Hapa nilikua nikilenga wanajifanya kumpa Ukraine silaha lakini wao ndio wanaziopareti.
Nikaongeza kusema wanapigana na Urusi kiujanjaujanja,hii sio tabia Yao na inaonekana udhaifu wao.
Nilimaanisha kua Hali hii inainyima Urusi uhalali wa kujibu mapigo moja kwa moja Kwa nchi yoyote inayorusha jiwe Urusi ikiwa nyuma ya Ukraine,sio nchi tu,hata NATO wote.
Kwa hiyo sio rahisi kwa Urusi kurusha jiwe Kwa NATO.
Ila kama unaona Urusi inaiogopa NATO basi omba Mungu NATO waingize jeshi lao kama walivyoingiza Iraq au Afghanistan au Yugoslavia halafu uone kama Urusi atajibu ama hatajibu.
 
Nickson francis said:
Tatizo mtu akiandika tofauti na mawazo yenu mnamchukulia kama adui, ndiomaana mashabiki wa west wamewaacha mtambe wenyewe humu ila siokwamba hawapo
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Acha uoga wewe,hivi humu jukwaani unawezaje kujua kama mtu Fulani amekuchukulia wewe kama adui?
Humu Kila mtu analeta hoja zake na watu ama wanpinga ama wanamuunga mkono.
Sasa kama wewe unakuja na hojambuzi zako watu hawawezi kukulea ili uendelee kupoteza watu.
Eti tunawachukulia kama adui,aisee!!
Leta hoja zenye facts.
 
Maonihuru said:
Wewe member hua ni mgumu sana kuelewa halafu mwepesi wa kusahau.
Nimesema hivi,USA na NATO waache kuirushia mawe Urusi wakiwa nyuma ya Ukraine.
Nikaendelea kusema sio tabia ya USA na NATO kuisaidia nchi kijeshi kwa kuipa misaada bila wao kuingia mazima kama walivyofanya Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan na Libya.
Hapa nilikua nikilenga wanajifanya kumpa Ukraine silaha lakini wao ndio wanaziopareti.
Nikaongeza kusema wanapigana na Urusi kiujanjaujanja,hii sio tabia Yao na inaonekana udhaifu wao.
Nilimaanisha kua Hali hii inainyima Urusi uhalali wa kujibu mapigo moja kwa moja Kwa nchi yoyote inayorusha jiwe Urusi ikiwa nyuma ya Ukraine,sio nchi tu,hata NATO wote.
Kwa hiyo sio rahisi kwa Urusi kurusha jiwe Kwa NATO.
Ila kama unaona Urusi inaiogopa NATO basi omba Mungu NATO waingize jeshi lao kama walivyoingiza Iraq au Afghanistan au Yugoslavia halafu uone kama Urusi atajibu ama hatajibu.
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Unajibizana na huyo jamaa!?😂😂😂😂.
Huyo jamaa hadi nilimu ignore.
Yupo factless.
 
Mr Devil said:
West bado hawaelewi ni nini kile maana akijakaa kama ICBM ,iskandar wala kinzhal
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Na hapo ndugu yangu wala sio majibu ya ujinga waliofanya wa kupiga ndani ya Urusi.
Majibu yanajadiliwa.

Pengine hili lilikua ni onyo,majibu yanaandaliwa ili kukomesha kabisa tabia hiyo.
Majibu ya ujinga huo hayatakua kwa Ukraine TU,Bali hata kwa wafadhiri wake.
Kama mnaona natania mtaona.
Urusi hua hawakurupuki.
 
Muite said:
Hivi ni kwanini Pro Russia mnakuwa na makasiriko sana mnapokutana na comments zinaoishusha Russia??
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Makasiriko unawezaje kuyatambua kwenye maandishi ndugu?
Wewe leta hoja zako,kama zina mashiko watu wataelewa TU,kama hazina mashiko utapingwa.
Sasa nyie Pro USAUkraiNATO Kila mkileta hoja zenu dhaifu mkipingwa kwa hoja mnadai mmekasirikiwa.
Zama zimebadilika ndugu yangu siku hizi hadanganywi mtu.
 
IamMrLiverpool said:
Putin alivyo muoga kajificha kwenye mahandaki tena chooni
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Lee Van Cleef,
Lee Vladimir Creef
Maoni Huru.

Hebu wenyewe oneni komenti kama hii!
Mtu kama huyu ni Pro USA UkraiNato ukimjibu mtasema tumemfanya adui na tumeonesha makasiriko.
Sasa hoja kama hii hata Pro NATO wenzake wanaona aibu.
Hivi kweli Mwamba VVP baba mtakatifu wa vita mtu pekee alieweza kuwakalisha nchi zote za west zaidi ya 53 ndio anaweza kujificha chooni kwa sababu ya makombora sita yote yaliyotunguliwa?/
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Putin anasubiriwa afanye kama anajikuna Ili wamgonbanie kama mpira wa kona
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Hao wa kumgombania Urusi kama mpira wa Kona ni akina nani?wanatokea Sayari Gani?
Maana kama ni Hawa mnaowasubiri naona wao ndio wamechelewa kwa sababu mgogora wa Ukraine na Urusi unafanana kabisa na mgogoro wa Iraq,Yugoslavia na Libya ambapo hao unaowaamini wala hawakuitwa walienda wenyewe,Sasa huku Ukraine kawaita wee ili wapeleke jeshi lao, wamegoma kwenda,mwisho kakata tamaa.
Kawaomba waweke No fly zone wee wakamkatalia,
lakini juzi TU hapa walienda kumsaidia Israel kujaribu kuangusha makombora ya Iran yaliyokua yanaelekezwa Israel.
Kitu pekee wanachofanya ni kupigana wakiwa nyuma ya mgongo wa Ukraine.
Lakini kibaya zaidi hata huko Afghanistan wote walikimbizwa.
Kama hutaki shauri Yako.
 
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