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nothing called time exists....Hawking ambaye ndiye kitovu cha mjadala huu anasema time ikianzia baada ya bingbang. Wewe unasema time haijawai kuwepo kabisa ni illusion , inamaana Hawaking alikuwa na illusion. Kwa msingi kwamba Hawking alikuwa na illusion una discredit kila kitu alichokisema yaani Mungu, time and space kama nakuelewa vizuri.
Contradictions za Quran umeziruka kama hujaziona.
How should I take you seriously?
Well James,Kwa maelezo haya unamaanisha kurani ina sapoti Bing bang na siyo handcraft ya Mungu mwenyewe ama nini?
Kiranga anajidai kasoma bibilia mkuu kwa quran ni mtupu kama kazaliwa leo.AL-HAMDULILLAH! HUO NI USHINDI MKUBWA. ALLAHU AKBAR.
**JAA L-HAKU WAZAHAKAL - BAATWIL. INNAL-BAATWIL KAANA ZAHUUKA** - Arabic transcription!.
meaning: (Haki imekuja na batili imeondoka, na mara zote batili Ni yenye kuondoka).
ANZISHA MADA MPYA HALAFU IITE CONTRACDICTIONS ZA QUR'AN. TUKUTANE HUKO.
jitahidi uwe vizuri kihoja maana Qur'an ni nyepesi sana kueleweka kwa wale wenye akili zilizo sawa!
Usidhani Watanzania Hatuna uwezo wa kufikiri na kujenga HOJA ZENYE AKILI eti kwa vile omelets hoja kwa kiingereza. Ona, Paloja na vijitabu unavyovitegemea na wnazuoni wako, nimeweza kuvunjilia mbali hoja zote kwa msaada wa Allah.
MUNGU YUPO KWA HOJA NILIZOZIJENGA!
NAOMBA AJITOKEZE MWINGINE KAMA KIRANGA NIMPELEKE DARASANI. KIRANGA KAPWAYA
Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe
By Brandon Specktor, Senior Writer | October 17, 2018 04:23pm ET
Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe
In a new book that was published posthumously, Stephen Hawking, who died in March, wrote that it is impossible for God to exist in our universe.
From his desk at Cambridge University and beyond, Stephen Hawking sent his mind spiraling into the deepest depths of black holes, radiating across the endless cosmos and swirling back billions of years to witness time's first breath. He viewed creation as a scientist, and when he was called to discuss creation's biggest puzzles — Where do we come from? What is our purpose? Are we alone? — he answered as a scientist, often to the chagrin of religious critics.
In Stephen Hawking's final book "Brief Answers to Big Questions," published Tuesday (Oct. 16) by Bantam Books, the professor begins a series of 10 intergalactic essays by addressing life's oldest and most religiously fraught question of all: Is there a God? [Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]
Hawking's answer — compiled from decades of prior interviews, essays and speeches with the help of his family, colleagues and the Steven Hawking Estate — should come as no surprise to readers who have followed his work, er, religiously.
Credit: Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images
"I think the universe was spontaneously created out of nothing, according to the laws of science," Hawking, who died in March, wrote. "If you accept, as I do, that the laws of nature are fixed, then it doesn't take long to ask: What role is there for God?"
In life, Hawking was a vocal champion of the Big Bang theory — the idea that the universe began by exploding suddenly out of an ultradense singularity smaller than an atom. From this speck emerged all the matter, energy and empty space that the universe would ever contain, and all that raw material evolved into the cosmos we perceive today by following a strict set of scientific laws. To Hawking and many like-minded scientists, the combined laws of gravity, relativity, quantum physics and a few other rules could explain everything that ever happened or ever will happen in our known universe.
"If you like, you can say the laws are the work of God, but that is more a definition of God than a proof of his existence," Hawking wrote.
With the universe running on a scientifically guided autopilot, the only role for an all-powerful deity might be setting the initial conditions of the universe so that those laws could take shape — a divine creator who caused the Big Bang to bang, then stepped back to behold His work.
"Did God create the quantum laws that allowed the Big Bang to occur?" Hawking wrote. "I have no desire to offend anyone of faith, but I think science has a more compelling explanation than a divine creator."
Hawking's explanation begins with quantum mechanics, which explains how subatomic particles behave. In quantum studies, it's common to see subatomic particles like protons and electrons seemingly appear out of nowhere, stick around for a while and then disappear again to a completely different location. Because the universe was once the size of a subatomic particle itself, it's plausible that it behaved similarly during the Big Bang, Hawking wrote.
"The universe itself, in all its mind-boggling vastness and complexity, could simply have popped into existence without violating the known laws of nature," he wrote.
That still doesn't explain away the possibility that God created that proton-size singularity, then flipped the quantum- mechanical switch that allowed it to pop. But Hawking says science has an explanation here, too. To illustrate, he points to the physics of black holes — collapsed stars that are so dense, nothing, including light, can escape their pull.
Black holes, like the universe before the Big Bang, condense into a singularity. In this ultra-packed point of mass, gravity is so strong that it distorts time as well as light and space. Simply put, in the depths of a black hole, time does not exist.
Because the universe also began as a singularity, time itself could not have existed before the Big Bang. Hawking's answer, then, to what happened before the Big Bang is, "there was no time before the Big Bang."
"We have finally found something that doesn’t have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."
This argument will do little to persuade theistic believers, but that was never Hawking's intent. As a scientist with a near-religious devotion to understanding the cosmos, Hawking sought to "know the mind of God" by learning everything he could about the self-sufficient universe around us. While his view of the universe might render a divine creator and the laws of nature incompatible, it still leaves ample space for faith, hope, wonder and, especially, gratitude.
"We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe," Hawking concludes the first chapter of his final book, "and for that I am extremely grateful."
Originally published on Live Science.
cc James Comey
Unaelewa kwamba hayo unayoyaita maandiko matakatifu yamejaa contradictions na hivyo hayawezi kuwa matakatifu?
There are many logical flawson his explanation, one to think that because there was no time, then Cause does not exist. One of the biggest mistake scientists seem to make is to ask philosophical questions then trying to seek scientific explanation.Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe
By Brandon Specktor, Senior Writer | October 17, 2018 04:23pm ET
Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe
In a new book that was published posthumously, Stephen Hawking, who died in March, wrote that it is impossible for God to exist in our universe.
From his desk at Cambridge University and beyond, Stephen Hawking sent his mind spiraling into the deepest depths of black holes, radiating across the endless cosmos and swirling back billions of years to witness time's first breath. He viewed creation as a scientist, and when he was called to discuss creation's biggest puzzles — Where do we come from? What is our purpose? Are we alone? — he answered as a scientist, often to the chagrin of religious critics.
In Stephen Hawking's final book "Brief Answers to Big Questions," published Tuesday (Oct. 16) by Bantam Books, the professor begins a series of 10 intergalactic essays by addressing life's oldest and most religiously fraught question of all: Is there a God? [Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]
Hawking's answer — compiled from decades of prior interviews, essays and speeches with the help of his family, colleagues and the Steven Hawking Estate — should come as no surprise to readers who have followed his work, er, religiously.
Credit: Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images
"I think the universe was spontaneously created out of nothing, according to the laws of science," Hawking, who died in March, wrote. "If you accept, as I do, that the laws of nature are fixed, then it doesn't take long to ask: What role is there for God?"
In life, Hawking was a vocal champion of the Big Bang theory — the idea that the universe began by exploding suddenly out of an ultradense singularity smaller than an atom. From this speck emerged all the matter, energy and empty space that the universe would ever contain, and all that raw material evolved into the cosmos we perceive today by following a strict set of scientific laws. To Hawking and many like-minded scientists, the combined laws of gravity, relativity, quantum physics and a few other rules could explain everything that ever happened or ever will happen in our known universe.
"If you like, you can say the laws are the work of God, but that is more a definition of God than a proof of his existence," Hawking wrote.
With the universe running on a scientifically guided autopilot, the only role for an all-powerful deity might be setting the initial conditions of the universe so that those laws could take shape — a divine creator who caused the Big Bang to bang, then stepped back to behold His work.
"Did God create the quantum laws that allowed the Big Bang to occur?" Hawking wrote. "I have no desire to offend anyone of faith, but I think science has a more compelling explanation than a divine creator."
Hawking's explanation begins with quantum mechanics, which explains how subatomic particles behave. In quantum studies, it's common to see subatomic particles like protons and electrons seemingly appear out of nowhere, stick around for a while and then disappear again to a completely different location. Because the universe was once the size of a subatomic particle itself, it's plausible that it behaved similarly during the Big Bang, Hawking wrote.
"The universe itself, in all its mind-boggling vastness and complexity, could simply have popped into existence without violating the known laws of nature," he wrote.
That still doesn't explain away the possibility that God created that proton-size singularity, then flipped the quantum- mechanical switch that allowed it to pop. But Hawking says science has an explanation here, too. To illustrate, he points to the physics of black holes — collapsed stars that are so dense, nothing, including light, can escape their pull.
Black holes, like the universe before the Big Bang, condense into a singularity. In this ultra-packed point of mass, gravity is so strong that it distorts time as well as light and space. Simply put, in the depths of a black hole, time does not exist.
Because the universe also began as a singularity, time itself could not have existed before the Big Bang. Hawking's answer, then, to what happened before the Big Bang is, "there was no time before the Big Bang."
"We have finally found something that doesn’t have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."
This argument will do little to persuade theistic believers, but that was never Hawking's intent. As a scientist with a near-religious devotion to understanding the cosmos, Hawking sought to "know the mind of God" by learning everything he could about the self-sufficient universe around us. While his view of the universe might render a divine creator and the laws of nature incompatible, it still leaves ample space for faith, hope, wonder and, especially, gratitude.
"We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe," Hawking concludes the first chapter of his final book, "and for that I am extremely grateful."
Originally published on Live Science.
cc James Comey
Really? Are the things you said a proof that God does not exist? How could death be a reason that God does not exist. I do not see any casual relation of the things you mentioned and the existence of super natural being.Mungu angekuwepo,(mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote) tusingekunya wala kufa.
Tunakunya na kufa kwa sababu Mungu hayupo.
Unaelewa hilo?
Forumyangu ,Makanyaga, Magobe and Tactus - Appreciated your comments,By the way, what is the rhetoric difference between the statements 'No Possibility' of God and No God? Why Hawking 's assertion or calim, that there is No Possibility' of God instead of, that of "No God"? You know why? Because he is uncertain!
Namsubiria aanzishe hiyo mada tukutane huko…...Kiranga anajidai kasoma bibilia mkuu kwa quran ni mtupu kama kazaliwa leo.
Atakusumbua tu huyo hata alif hajui bali anakopi na kupest tu wallahi kiranga ana vihoja vya kitoto tu.
Nakuambia tena lazima akimbie mkuu akianzisha mada ya kuhusu mgoangano wa quran.
Kwa sababu kiarabu ndio msingi wa quran,sasa ikiwa hajui kiarabu na misingi yake kama vile نحو ،صرف، n.k
Sasa kiranga atayajulia wapi haya?
Ni boga tu huyo jamaa.
Yani hata Mungu ukishaona anahitaji maelezo emngi sana, tafsiri za kutoka Kirabu au Kilatini, Kiyunani, ki Amharic na Kiingereza, ujue huyo si Mungu.Kiranga akianzisha dini naweza kuwa muumini. Sababu sitahitaji kujieleza sana kuhusu dini yangu, ukiniuliza maswali nakupelekea kwa mwenyewe.
Napenda anavyokomaa
Contradictions za Quran hujazijibu.From Stephen Hawking book. He wrote;
Because the universe also began as a singularity, time itself could not have existed before the Big Bang. Hawking's answer, then, to what happened before the Big Bang is, "there was no time before the Big Bang."
"We have finally found something that doesn’t have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."
Let us think the above statement of his:
He says, since the universe was a singular thing, time itself could not have existed before the bang. If that is the case to him he then draws his conclusion that there was no time for a cause (creator) to exist in.
That's is interesting story!
Let us take an example of a FATAKI (Firecracker, fireworks, rockets, banger, maroon - name it you like) which we normally see people explode in the sky during new year or during celebration of world cup. It is a result of singular balloon or singular object. But when ejected it explodes and scatter all over the place with dim lights of different colors looking pretty good for viewers.
Now Stephen Hawking is looking the causer (creator) from inside the balloon/firecrackers.
QUESTIONS:
**Was the creator who made firecrackers present inside???
**If the time has started after firing the firecracker (fataki), is this time related to the firecracker or the one
who made firecrackers/fataki???
**Was the firecracker made itself or there is someone who made it??
**The creator of the firecracker is subjected with the time of the firecracker??
**Does the firecracker exist or they does not exist??
**Does the maker of firecracker's exists or he does not exist?
**If you deny he does not exist, does this exempt the fact that he does exist???????????
Qur'an 64:3
He created the heavens and earth in truth and formed you and perfected your forms; and to Him is the [final] destination.
The illusion of time is created by speeds that are lower than the speed of light.nothing called time exists....
no different between past,present an future...all three exist at the same incidence...
Matter is the product of space time collapse...
Mimi nasema hakuna kitu kinachoitwa muda( time) ...its an illusion of your mental prediction...
Contradictions za Quran umeziruka kama hujaziona.AL-HAMDULILLAH! HUO NI USHINDI MKUBWA. ALLAHU AKBAR.
**JAA L-HAKU WAZAHAKAL - BAATWIL. INNAL-BAATWIL KAANA ZAHUUKA** - Arabic transcription!.
meaning: (Haki imekuja na batili imeondoka, na mara zote batili Ni yenye kuondoka).
ANZISHA MADA MPYA HALAFU IITE CONTRACDICTIONS ZA QUR'AN. TUKUTANE HUKO.
jitahidi uwe vizuri kihoja maana Qur'an ni nyepesi sana kueleweka kwa wale wenye akili zilizo sawa!
Usidhani Watanzania Hatuna uwezo wa kufikiri na kujenga HOJA ZENYE AKILI eti kwa vile omelets hoja kwa kiingereza. Ona, Paloja na vijitabu unavyovitegemea na wnazuoni wako, nimeweza kuvunjilia mbali hoja zote kwa msaada wa Allah.
MUNGU YUPO KWA HOJA NILIZOZIJENGA!
NAOMBA AJITOKEZE MWINGINE KAMA KIRANGA NIMPELEKE DARASANI. KIRANGA KAPWAYA
By the way, what is the rhetoric difference between the statements 'No Possibility' of God and No God? Why Hawking 's assertion or calim, that there is No Possibility' of God instead of, that of "No God"? You know why? Because he is uncertain!