Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

Hivi you people where are getting this english? Am trying hard to be fluent in this language but the you are letting me down
Almost 95% of the classical arguments against the existence of God are not available in Swahili.

And even at that percentage, I am being overly generous towards Swahili.

There is no Swahili translation of Dawkins, Russell or Hitchens.

How could you realistically and efficiently engage us in this conversation, if you are not familiar and possibly intimidated by everyday English?

What will happen if we start writing in the philosophers language, avec savoir faire?
 
He never claimed he could.

You have posed a notion that has disjointed logic and is purely irrelevant.

I can't believe him on such complex topic, while he can't apply his mind to do simple prediction, such as on his death. He just put forth an assertion, not even scientific - there is no empirical evidence or observation that validates his claim. He decided to write something to impress hif family and his fans.
 
I can't believe him on such complex topic, while he can't apply his mind to do simple prediction, such as on his death. He just put forth an assertion, not even scientific - there is no empirical evidence or observation that validates his claim. He decided to write something to impress hif family and his fans.
He did not ask you to believe.

He did not even know you exist.
 
He did not ask you to believe.

He did not even know you exist.

Do you believe/agree with his book "Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe"?

If so, what justifies your belief/agreement?
 
Do you believe/agree with his book "Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe"?

If so, what justifies your belief/agreement?
I do not believe, I do not want to believe. I want to understand and know.

I agree with him. Because the God he disputes is essentially self contradicting.

A self contradicting God cannot exist.
 
when you are broke there are topics you should only listen to. So guys keep debating, am here listening, won't say a word.
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] HON: CASTR I'm with you because I might add something to be a reason for me to be poor poor and poor.

These topics are for successful people.
I keep my words with my broke black *ss
 
Pale mlemavu anapo wapumbaza watu na akili zao ndo mjuwe Kama Mungu yupoo
Kuwepo kwa ulemavu duniani ni ishara Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote hayupo.

Mungu huyo angekuwepo, kungekuwa hakuna ulemavu popote.

Ulemavu ungekuwa hauwezekani kutokea.

Kuwepo kwa ulemavu kunaonesha Mungu huyo hayupo.
 
when you are broke there are topics you should only listen to. So guys keep debating, am here listening, won't say a word.
Una point ya muhimu sana. Mtu mwenye njaa hana muda mwingi wa kuhoji uwepo wa Mungu.

Atasaka tonge kwanza, tena kwa kuomba Mungu.

Na ukimwambia Mungu hayupo, afanye kazi apate hela, anaweza kuona unamuwekea kijiba cha uchuro.

Ndiyo maana wengi wanapingana nami bila point.

Mtu katoka kusali kanisani apate kazi ili imsaidie kulisha familia yake, halafu unamwambia Mungu hayupo.

Unafikiri atafurahi?
 
kuna clear difference in critical thinking kati ya wanaotheorize mungu yupo na hayupo. baada yakusoma hoja zote utaconclude, mungu hayupo kama una reasoning IQ above average.
 
Kuwepo kwa ulemavu duniani ni ishara Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote hayupo.

Mungu huyo angekuwepo, kungekuwa hakuna ulemavu popote.

Ulemavu ungekuwa hauwezekani kutokea.

Kuwepo kwa ulemavu kunaonesha Mungu huyo hayupo.
Dah Mkuu apo sitaki Ubishi i believe in God
 
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] HON: CASTR I'm with you because I might add something to be a reason for me to be poor poor and poor.

These topics are for successful people.
I keep my words with my broke black *ss
Kuna rais mmoja wa Marekani wa mwanzo kabisa, nafikiri alikuwa John Aadams yule, alisema wao wanayafanyia kazi masuala ya msingi kabisa yasiyokwepeka katika maisha ya kila siku (kula, pahala pa kuishi, afya, mambo ya kimsingi ya kiuchumi kama ajira etc) ili watoto wao wawe na luxury ya kuweza kuchambua masuala mengine (kama haya ya uwepo wa Mungu).

Tatizo kwetu huko wengi hawajatatua matatizo ya msingi, sasa kujadiliana na mtu ambaye hajapata muda wa kumsoma Anselm, Augustine, Russell, Dawkins, Hitchens, kwa sababu hata bajeti ya vitabu hana, au Kiingereza hajui kwa sababu hakufanikiwa kupata nafasi ya kujifunza, ni tabu sana.

Ndiyo maana nafikia nafasi hata kuonesha areguments za kutokuwepo kwa Mungu zinazotolewa na watu wanaosema Mungu yupo.

Hawana uwezo wa kufikiri kwa kina, muda wao mwingi unatumiwa kufukuza riziki ya siku.

Mtu anakwambia complexity ya dunia na viumbe ni lazima iwe imeumbwa, haiwezi kuwa imetokea yenyewe tu.

Hajui kwamba, kwa kusema hilo, anachosema kiukweli kabisa, ni kwamba Mungu muumba vyote hawezi kuwepo.

Kwa sababu, kama complexity ni lazima iumbwe, haiwezi kutokea tu, hata Mungu naye ni complex, naye atahitaji muumba, na muumba wake atahitaji muumba, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

Kwa hiyo, hapo hakuna Mungu muumba yote, kuna an infinity of viumbe.

Kwa hiyo Mungu hayupo.

Yani mtu anafikiri ananipinga mimi, kumbe anajipinga mwenyewe.

Kwa nini? Kwa sababu hajapata nafasi ya kuchunguza hoja yake kwa umakini kabla ya kuitoa, amejikita kwenye kufukuza riziki.
 
I do not believe, I do not want to believe. I want to understand and know.

I agree with him. Because the God he disputes is essentially self contradicting.

A self contradicting God cannot exist.

So, with your analogy, if a person is self-contradicting, he/she cannot exist?
 
kuna clear difference in critical thinking kati ya wanaotheorize mungu yupo na hayupo. baada yakusoma hoja zote utaconclude, mungu hayupo kama una reasoning IQ above average.
Tatizo wanaosema Mungu hayupo wana kitu kinaitwa "deus ex machina".

Deus ex machina ulikuwa ni mtindo wa Wagiriki wa kale kumaliza maigizo kama ile story waliyokuwa wanaicheza katika maigizo imekuwa complex halafu haina resolution.

Kwa kweli hata katika waandishi wa leo, muandishi wa riwaya akiambiwa kamaliza riwaya yake kwa deux ex machina, ni kama ametukanwa kwamba hajui kuandika resolution ya hadithi vizuri.

So, Wagiriki walitunga hadithi complex, huko mwisho wakishindwa kufikia resolution, walikuwa wana limungu lao la mbao, linashuka, linamaliza hadithi bila kufuata logic wala mtiririko wowote.

Yani ni kama Rambo kashikwa na wanajeshi elfu kumi wenye mizinga na silaha kali, kafungwa jela ya nguvu yenye mageti kumi, halafu anatokea malaika anafungua mageti yote na kuua wanajeshi wote. Story inakuwa ya kitoto.

Ukiwashinda kwa kuonesha Mungu wao hayumkiniki kwa sababu hana logoic, wanakwambia Mungu hafuati logic na huwezi kumuelewa.

Sasa mtu kama huyo utabishana naye vipi?
 
Dah Mkuu apo sitaki Ubishi i believe in God
Kinachojadiliwa nami hapa si belief.

Una haki ya kuamini chochote, naitambua haki yako hiyo ya kikatiba.

Naitambua haki ya kuamini unavyotaka, au kutoamini unavyotaka, kama ilivyoandikwa katika International Declaration of Human Rights tangu December 10 1948.

Mtu akikuingilia katika haki yako hiyo, nitakusaidia kupingana naye kuilinda, hata kama mimi siamini unachoamini. Natetea uhuru wako kuamini unachotaka.

Sijadili imani hapa, najadili facts.

Naona unachanganya mambo.
 
How can a person be self contradicting, give me a concrete example.

And do not confuse a person being self contradicting, with a person holding self contradicting ideas.

These are two different things.

How is God self-contradicting? And how does self-contradiction related to existence?
 
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