Tanzania SGR Bridges vs Kenyan

Tanzania SGR Bridges vs Kenyan

Geza Ulole said:
Aa wapii hata za abiria sasa hazikimbii hivyo kwa mitambo ile ya gongo kitu kinaweza ku-derail
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Hua mnapenda sana kujitungia story... Sorry to dissapoint you

Hii hapa ikiwa 132km/hr

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joto la jiwe said:
Kwanini unapanga wewe vile unavyotska au unavyofikiria?, kama Magufuli alimpatia kitalu Dangote achimbe mwenyewe makaa ya mawe ili gharama iwe chini kuliko kupitia wakala wa serikali, kitu gani kitamshinda Magufuli kuipe umeme wa bure au gharama nafuu SGR ili gharama ziwe cheap?, kumbuka tunajenga bwawa kubwa litakalozalisha umeme wa maji 2100MW, na tutaongeza umeme wa gas, ikifika 2020 ambapo Dar-Moro inategemewa kuanza, Tanzania inategemea kuwa na 5000MW, mwingi ni kutokana na maji ambao is the cheapest source of electricity.

Umeamua kukimbia jambo la msingi unaanza kukimbizana na picha za madaraja, kutakuwa na madaraja zaidi ya 200 kati ya Moro- Dodoma, ulitaka uwekewe picha ya madaraja yote?, then what for?. swali la msingi, ni kwanini SGR ya Kenya ni ghali kuliko zote, wakati is old model?
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Hhehe , eti mimeamua kukimbia jambo la msingi nikakimbizana na madaraja... Mbona unahubiri ndani ya bar??? Mada ilileywa kuongelea madaraja, wewe na gora lako mmekimbia mada mkajiamulia vyengune kabisa.
Alafu ukisema sgr kenya ni old model. Hebu define old model na utonyeshe ushamba
 
Kafrican said:
Kumbuka stima kutoka kampuni ya kusambaza umeme unalipwa kulingana na tariff... Tuseme Tz SGR itatumia 300MW, kampuni ya umeme itaitisha pesa ya hizo 300mw, kwahivyo ni lazima tz-sgr ipate faida ya kutosha kulipia hio stima... Kama hawarakua na faida ya kutosha na wakose kulipa stima, kampuni ya stima itachukua loss hiyo na kuipitisha kwa mwananchi, mtaongezewa kodi ya stima ili mlipie hio loss ya 300mw ...
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System yenyu wakenya ya Kuendesha uchumi iko tofauti sana na Tanzania, so hicho unachokiandika sio Sheria kuwa Tanzania lazima tutumie huo utaratibu unao/utakao tumika kwenu
 
Kafrican said:
Hhehe , eti mimeamua kukimbia jambo la msingi nikakimbizana na madaraja... Mbona unahubiri ndani ya bar??? Mada ilileywa kuongelea madaraja, wewe na gora lako mmekimbia mada mkajiamulia vyengune kabisa.
Alafu ukisema sgr kenya ni old model. Hebu define old model na utonyeshe ushamba
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Hahaha sasa kwani ni modern acha kuchekesha watu basi, sgr yenu ni very first early Stone age
 
Kafrican said:
Nop iliandikwa na min.transport na Sgr uganda, hao monitor walitoa ripoti tu.

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Anyway, hio ya 200km/hr imesemwa na nani? Lets sources

Manake mimi naeza kuletea source, yetu ikiwekwa umeme 2020 itakua inasonga at 240km/hr
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Kaka usijiaibishe ndugu yangu, kasi ya treni haitegemeani na locomotive power peke yake, muhimu zaidi ni njia ya reli wakati wa kujengwa wanaandalia kona na inclination mbalimbali, wanaposema wanajenga reli ya mwendokasi fulani, hiyo ni maaana tangu ujenzi wa reli, kama Tanzania wanataka kujenga hadi 200Km/Hr, lazima hilo walifanye sasa hivi wakati mkandarasi anafanya design, akishamaliza huwezi tena kuleta locomotive zitakaxokumbia nje ya design iliyofanyika, ninakuhakikishia Kenya inaweza kubadili from Diesel kwenda umeme, lakini sio speed ya train, kwa sababu drsign ya reli hairuhusu speed hiyo, kona na inclinations mbalimbali haziwezi kuruhusu mwendo huo, kama kuna aliyesema umeme ukiwekwa speed itafikia 240km/hr, ni mwendelezo wa propaganda za wakenya, na kawaida wakenya wanapenda sana kusifiwa hata kama wanadanganywa, uwezo wao wa kufanya analysis wanaufungua chooni, kama alivyokua anawadangaya Charles Keter wakati wa saga la bomba la mafuta
 
Kituko said:
System yenyu wakenya ya Kuendesha uchumi iko tofauti sana na Tanzania, so hicho unachokiandika sio Sheria kuwa Tanzania lazima tutumie huo utaratibu unao/utakao tumika kwenu
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Ni kweli..Hivyo ndo inafantika kwetu , kenya power kplc haiwezi ikakubali kupeana stima ya bure kwani pia hao walitumia pesa kuwekeza... Na hata wakipeana bure ni lazima serikali iwalipe la sivyo wataongeza bei ya Stima kwa wananchi mpaka ile siku watajilipa hio loss ya kupeana stima ya bure.
 
Kafrican said:
Ile siku yenu itaadikwa kiswahili utuletee mapicha tuje tukupongeze
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Tanzania official languages ni kiswahili na English lakini sio kichina that's not universal language na tunataka iwe English ili yeyote aelewe considering emergency situations universal language is inevitable. Sasa hiyo yenu one must starting first with Chinese language tougher 100 times than technical stuff.

Chinese kwenye hii sgr yenu ni mgonjwa na uji no Chinese no operations
 
joto la jiwe said:
Kaka usijiaibishe ndugu yangu, kasi ya treni haitegemeani na locomotive power peke yake, muhimu zaidi ni njia ya reli wakati wa kujengwa wanaandalia kona na inclination mbalimbali, wanaposema wanajenga reli ya mwendokasi fulani, hiyo ni maaana tangu ujenzi wa reli, kama Tanzania wanataka kujenga hadi 200Km/Hr, lazima hilo walifanye sasa hivi wakati mkandarasi anafanya design, akishamaliza huwezi tena kuleta locomotive zitakaxokumbia nje ya design iliyofanyika, ninakuhakikishia Kenya inaweza kubadili from Diesel kwenda umeme, lakini sio speed ya train, kwa sababu drsign ya reli hairuhusu speed hiyo, kona na inclinations mbalimbali haziwezi kuruhusu mwendo huo, kama kuna aliyesema umeme ukiwekwa speed itafikia 240km/hr, ni mwendelezo wa propaganda za wakenya, na kawaida wakenya wanapenda sana kusifiwa hata kama wanadanganywa, uwezo wao wa kufanya analysis wanaufungua chooni, kama alivyokua anawadangaya Charles Keter wakati wa saga la bomba la mafuta
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My friend, reli ya kenya ilidesigniwa na option ya future upgrade to highspeed electric to support upto 250km/hr
 
REDEEMER. said:
Tanzania official languages ni kiswahili na English lakini sio kichina that's not universal language na tunataka iwe English ili yeyote aelewe considering emergency situations universal language is inevitable. Sasa hiyo yenu one must starting first with Chinese language tougher 100 times than technical stuff.

Chinese kwenye hii sgr yenu ni mgonjwa na uji no Chinese no operations
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Madereva wote wa kenya wanaweza kusoma ki chinese ...
Kitu kama software system ya train inaitea core system, si rahisi kugeuza core system unless ufanye complete ovahaul, its not as simple as inserting a cd and changing a language... its like changing a language for a nuclear plant Operating system , you cant just insert a translating software, you will have to rewrite the OS from the ground up...
 
Kafrican said:
Hata sisi mbali na bujeti tunapanga kuongeza hadi 3000MW by 2020....

Alafu hapo Tanzania SGR ya tz kutoka dar hadi mwanza ni at least $7B ...

SGR ya kenya itakua na urefu wa hadi 1,109 km, ya Tanzania ni about 1,224km hadi mwanza.

Mbali na umeme unafaa uangalie mambo mengine ya technical details ndo itajua tofauti inatokana wapi...
Kwa mfano reli ya Tz inajengwa ikitarajiwa kusafirisha kati ya 17-20 tonnes pa wakati ya kenya inatarajiwa kusafitisha 22million-35 million tonnes pa.

Reli yetu inajengwa Juujuu ya ardhi urefu wa 6.6meters above ground , hii inatumua pesa nyingi zaidi lakini haitawahi kupatwa na shida kama mafuriko... Reli ya Tz inajengwa 0.6meters abobe ground kama ile reli ya mkoloni..

Pesa hizo hizo tulizotumia kujenga SGR ndo zimetumika kujenga ICD ya Nairobi na pia ya Naivasha na ya Kisumu... ICD ya Nairobi ina uwezo wa kuchukua Contena 480,000! kila mwaka! Hio icd pekee iligharimu mihela, just for comparison bandari la dar lina uwezo wa 1 million TEU s containers kumaanisha hiyo icd ya Nairobi ni pekee ni nusu ya bandari lenu kuu la Dar..just imajin! Najua hata nyinyi mtajenga icd lakini katakua kadogo compaited icd za kenya...
Alafu bado hata hatujaona stesheni zenu zinakaa vipi manake ukangalia zile atesheni za kenya msa-Nai utaona zigharamu between $250m upto $350 of the cost
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Mkuu umesema ICD zetu zitajengwa ila zitakua ndogo kulinganisha na zenu. How can u tell that, najua haujaona michoro ya ICD zetu, Infact kuna nyingine tayari zinajengwa najua hujui hilo. Sasa kwa manufaa ya jukwaa ebu tupe link au weka vitu hadhalani tuone ukubwa wa ICD za Kenya then tupate ku compare. Unge anza na hyo ya Kisumu it sounds interesting.. nia ni kujifunza.
 
Kafrican said:
Madereva wote wa kenya wanaweza kusoma ki chinese ...
Kitu kama software system ya train inaitea core system, si rahisi kugeuza core system unless ufanye complete ovahaul, its not as simple as inserting a cd and changing a language... its like changing a language for a nuclear plant Operating system , you cant just insert a translating software, you will have to rewrite the OS from the ground up...
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That shows how your sgr is limited and unpopular, the company serves only in China because of poor reputation and little diversity
 
Kafrican said:
Madereva wote wa kenya wanaweza kusoma ki chinese ...
Kitu kama software system ya train inaitea core system, si rahisi kugeuza core system unless ufanye complete ovahaul, its not as simple as inserting a cd and changing a language... its like changing a language for a nuclear plant Operating system , you cant just insert a translating software, you will have to rewrite the OS from the ground up...
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Hivi ilikuwaje ile Ya Tazara ya 60s-70s haina complication kama hiyo yenu ya 2017,
 
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