Tanzanians, come here lets reason together

Tanzanians, come here lets reason together

pingli-nywee said:
Let no one lie to you, the reign of cockerels, god-men and leaders with absolute powers is a forgotten era in Kenya. We pushed them off the cliff through sweat, blood and tears and emmerged with a new constitution in the process.
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Still they own land which you have failed to reclaim back as per recommendations from various different committees
 
vulcan said:
wafadhili ?? have you seen the Kenyan govt budget on Health,Education,transport and power? I am not saying we have the best standards yet, but you cannot compare the quality of roads, health ,education , power distribution in KE n TZ .

The other thing on slums, most Kenyans living in slums in Nairobi have homes up-country, they are not homeless or landless except a few. People come to Nairobi to work. there is also a shortage of low cost housing.But that sector has started attracting investors.

We don't live in utopian imagination where everything is good as the govt tells us. We know our problems and we are working on them. As opposed to TZ who think they are in paradise
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Roads, Health system, water supply and electricity connectivity, Kenya is 10years behind of Tanzania.
 
MK254 said:
So funny coming from a typical CCM propagandist who spends all day defending every evil by own politicians.
Anyway, sioni hoja kwako maana unachorudia rudia ni hayo hayo. Katiba tutabadilisha maeneo muhimu na kuiboresha zaidi.
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When someone tell you the truth, unabaki kusema oh CCM propagandist, little you remember, you use to crush servers with praise of Jubilee gov running to the last election, remember Samuel999 ?
 
vulcan said:
😛😛😛😛 2012 when Kikwete was still pres?? that guy had raised the statue of TZ so high. Then you brought this crazy dictator.Maghufuli is a Joke.
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Hizo ni data za 2018, Kenya is a primitive society, how do you dare to compare with civilized country on Democracy?
 
joto la jiwe said:
Ngoja tukujuze kaka, hili limezungumzwa sana na msomi wenu Dr.David Ndii lakini hamtaki kumsikiliza. Duniani kuna mifumo miwili ya kuongoza nchi, ili nchi yoyote duniani iweze kuondelea inahitaji mambo mkubwa matatu
1)Amani
2) Equal economic opportunity
3)Umoja wa kitaifa.
4)Maendeleo ya kiuchumi

Tanzania tuliamua kuanza kujenga umoja wa kitaifa kwanza, wakati Kenya mlianza na Uchumi kwanza. Tatizo lenu ninyi wakenya mbalinganisha uchumi pekee na kuchukulia Amani na umoja wa kitaifa kama ni vitu binavyopatikana Naturally kama vile ardhi.

Tafadhali pia ulinganishe Amani na utulivu ambavyo vilitugharimu sana, ambavyo Leo Kenya vinawagharimu sana, viwe ni sehemu ya maendeleo na tulinganishe pia.
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Am optimistic in the nxt 20yrs Kenya will be free from tribalism, the current generation will end it..am not sure of corruption
 
MK254 said:
You're damn right about that one, kutufikia sio kwa vizazi kumi vijavyo, yaani nyie Watanzania ninaowafahamu fika, hehehehe mpo mbali sana na mtabaki huko hukooooo????
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Teh teh teh tihiii
namba moja Afrika.
 
Mwanzi1 said:
Kikwete didn't challenged Kenya well enough, Magufuli on other hand has left no stone unturned. Trade imbalance between TZ and KE is narrowing day by day.
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those are the mistakes you are making, Kenya is not even thinking about you.Our media only talks about TZ when you burn some chicken or sell masai cows, and then you call that a trade war. Learn from UG, in this year UG exported more goods to Kenya than we exported to them. They achieved this by scaling up their production..and opening up their markets...sasa mkianza kutupiga vita openly hivo, mtauzia nani goods???
 
Umesahau massive terrorism. And war.
vulcan said:
Tanzanians please, i know you all love your country but honestly, you people don't see a problem that TZ, a nation with almost 100% arable land, abundant mineral resources, political stability, no ethnicity,massive land mass, very minimal corruption is still lagging behind and playing catch-up with a nation that has undergone political turmoil, massive corruption, tribalism and 2/3 of it is semi-arid, no substantial minerals..
what do you think is your problem???
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vulcan said:
those are the mistakes you are making, Kenya is not even thinking about you.Our media only talks about TZ when you burn some chicken or sell masai cows, and then you call that a trade war. Learn from UG, in this year UG exported more goods to Kenya than we exported to them. They achieved this by scaling up their production..and opening up their markets...sasa mkianza kutupiga vita openly hivo, mtauzia nani goods???
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If Kenya is not thinking about Tanzania why see Kenyan official running up and down begging ease up trade between ke and Tz. I mean, haven't we seen protest by Kenyan youth blocking roads when they couldn't smuggle their goods across the birder?
 
vulcan said:
those are the mistakes you are making, Kenya is not even thinking about you.Our media only talks about TZ when you burn some chicken or sell masai cows, and then you call that a trade war. Learn from UG, in this year UG exported more goods to Kenya than we exported to them. They achieved this by scaling up their production..and opening up their markets...sasa mkianza kutupiga vita openly hivo, mtauzia nani goods???
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http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/bus...pite-trade-row/2560-4255098-jif3av/index.html
 
vulcan said:
those are the mistakes you are making, Kenya is not even thinking about you.Our media only talks about TZ when you burn some chicken or sell masai cows, and then you call that a trade war. Learn from UG, in this year UG exported more goods to Kenya than we exported to them. They achieved this by scaling up their production..and opening up their markets...sasa mkianza kutupiga vita openly hivo, mtauzia nani goods???
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Tanzania’s rice exports to Kenya, Rwanda to increase
Don't forget that 50% of your legumes comes from Tanzania
 
vulcan said:
wafadhili ?? have you seen the Kenyan govt budget on Health,Education,transport and power? I am not saying we have the best standards yet, but you cannot compare the quality of roads, health ,education , power distribution in KE n TZ .

The other thing on slums, most Kenyans living in slums in Nairobi have homes up-country, they are not homeless or landless except a few. People come to Nairobi to work. there is also a shortage of low cost housing.But that sector has started attracting investors.

We don't live in utopian imagination where everything is good as the govt tells us. We know our problems and we are working on them. As opposed to TZ who think they are in paradise
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Who told you Kenya is any better? Kuna mdau hapa amesema many of you Kenyans dont know your country, By the Way,
Did you know that 45% Kenyans live below poverty line?
Did you know Millions of Kenyans Suffer from Hunger as we speak,
Did you Know Turkana and Masabit and Moyale are parts of Kenya as well?
Did you know that Kibera houses over 2.5m Nairobians, currently inashikiria record ya Largest slum on Earth?
Did you know 5m Kenyans are Jiggers victims?

Please don’t think you are any better, calm down and realize that Kenya and Tanzania are both third word countries.
 
vulcan said:
Tanzanians please, i know you all love your country but honestly, you people don't see a problem that TZ, a nation with almost 100% arable land, abundant mineral resources, political stability, no ethnicity,massive land mass, very minimal corruption is still lagging behind and playing catch-up with a nation that has undergone political turmoil, massive corruption, tribalism and 2/3 of it is semi-arid, no substantial minerals..
what do you think is your problem???
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In your opinion, do you think Kenya can look down at Tanzania?
 
Mwanzi1 said:
When someone tell you the truth, unabaki kusema oh CCM propagandist, little you remember, you use to crush servers with praise of Jubilee gov running to the last election, remember Samuel999 ?
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Bro... There is a very big difference between a patriot and a paid propagandist like you, I am not a Jubilee fan, and you will never see me praise any political party, but I was and I've been supporter of Uhuru due to his development agenda, and I would support any seating president with all my heart as long as he/she is development minded.
Whoever wins, becomes my president and I will support him and post in JF every achievement and I've said this over and again even before elections that had Raila won, you'd have still seen me here posting his stuffs, am only interested in seeing our country excel.
 
vulcan said:
Tanzanians please, i know you all love your country but honestly, you people don't see a problem that TZ, a nation with almost 100% arable land, abundant mineral resources, political stability, no ethnicity,massive land mass, very minimal corruption is still lagging behind and playing catch-up with a nation that has undergone political turmoil, massive corruption, tribalism and 2/3 of it is semi-arid, no substantial minerals..
what do you think is your problem???
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Thank you so much for your honest concern about Tanzania as far as development is concerned!
We Tanzanians;Hope you are not,We are moving forward! We are not stagnant;if you trace back our economic situation far back 15 years ago and see how our economy was and how now is gaining a very positive momentum you could not say what you have said!

Development is a gradual phenomenon,not drastic one.As a country we had our priorities in the beginning.
The Late Father of our Nation his primary agenda was Peace within and Peace in our neighbouring countries and Africa at large.So all resources were dumped to establish the so called Political stability in Africa.
We helped many countries to achieve their political independence,We established Camps for freedom fighters from all over the world! By just doing that we reaped Million enemies from the Western countries! Who wished ill things for us.

Did you know that The British intended to grant Zimbabwe Independence in 2033?
Far better,Our Pragmatic leader Nyerere chose Socialism as a political philosophy to lead us toward development.
Nyerere regime never wished to see Streets with Skyscrapers,Tanzanians driving Mercedes Benz,Planes and other Material things.

He was People centred! MAN AND DEVELOPMENT.People's Health,Education,Shelters which were really important to this Day!( The population was reasonable and he achieved these things) So when you don't see Long Buildings,New Modern Cars and others luxury things don't say that we are less developed! We have our own meaning of Development Sir!
We are trying to Move swiftly! We can not accomplish all things in a single decade! we need decades,centuries and we need patience.
Tunaendelea Pole pole! Maendeleo hayawezi kuja kwa Usiku Mmoja. Tunasonga kwa mwendo wa kinyonga au Farasi ... Tunasonga.
 
MK254 said:
Bro... There is a very big difference between a patriot and a paid propagandist like you, I am not a Jubilee fan, and you will never see me praise any political party, but I was and I've been supporter of Uhuru due to his development agenda, and I would support any seating president with all my heart as long as he/she is development minded.
Whoever wins, becomes my president and I will support him and post in JF every achievement and I've said this over and again even before elections that had Raila won, you'd have still seen me here posting his stuffs, am only interested in seeing our country excel.
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If your can support Uhuru with nothing but your conviction, why can't i do the same. I believe in social democratic values and I've been preaching here from day one I join JF. In my country CCM fits the bill. The last time I check, CCM was an institution with well defined history in and out of our country. But if your going to judge me that politics comes first than country, then you'll be very wrong.
 
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