Tanzania's cheap railway may be of poor quality

Tanzania's cheap railway may be of poor quality

Unaweweseka! Unatetemeka, unaserereka... Na bado! In the next five years, Tanzania will be leading East Africa by example. In terms of infrastructure and volume of trade and commerce...
 
 
Jay456watt said:
RE: “Poor collaboration is hindering regional railway project – report” (The New Times Rwanda, March 13).

Last time we learned that President (John) Magufuli (of Tanzania) has been able to negotiate a similar standard gauge railroad at $1.5 million per kilometre.

Dear EALA MPs, it is too early to conclude that Tanzania got a better deal. There is no way you can finance the construction of a one-kilometre Standard Gauge railroad for $1.5 million. Just imagine the cost of the steel rails alone, and without even including the cost of cement, rocks, excavation and labour.

I am not a civil engineer but common sense tells me that the Tanzania deal will end up being so bad that their railway will be of poor quality, very dangerous and more costly in the long run.
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Beware of cheap rail projects
By: SETH
  • PUBLISHED: March 14, 2017
Editor,

RE: “Poor collaboration is hindering regional railway project – report” (The New Times, March 13).

Last time we learned that President (John) Magufuli (of Tanzania) has been able to negotiate a similar standard gauge railroad at $1.5 million per kilometre.

Dear EALA MPs, it is too early to conclude that Tanzania got a better deal. There is no way you can finance the construction of a one-kilometre Standard Gauge railroad for $1.5 million. Just imagine the cost of the steel rails alone, and without even including the cost of cement, rocks, excavation and labour.

I am not a civil engineer but common sense tells me that the Tanzania deal will end up being so bad that their railway will be of poor quality, very dangerous and more costly in the long run.

Seth
 
Aisee yaani sio watanzania sio watu wa nje wote wanaomba kila anachofanya rais Magufuli ashindwe.

Yaani kila mtu saiv ni mchambuzi wa siasa, kila mtu ni mchambuzi wa uchumi.
 
cds said:
The quality of anything is not always determined by it price.
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Aiseee! Hii point yako doesn't make sense in economics.
Bidhaa ama huduma duni upatikana/utolewa kwa bei rahisi. Kwa mfano, ukichukulia huduma ya usafiri wa mabasi makubwa ya abiria. SUMATRA wameweka madaraja: ordinary, semi-luxury na luxury. Sasa huwezi kutegemea kuwa na nauli sawa katika madaraja hayo, kwani huduma zinazotolewa kwenye kila daraja utofautiana, huku luxury buses zikitoa huduma bora zaidi.

Vivyo hivyo kwenye ujenzi, ubora wake na gharama zake unaendana na aina ya vifaa, teknolojia ya ujenzi na human resources involved. Huwezi kupata ubora na huduma sawa kati ya ujenzi unaofanywa na kampuni ya waturuki na kampuni kama Vinci ya Ufaransa ama Skanska ya Sweden! Hizo mbili za mwisho zina ujuzi wa takribani miaka 100 katika ujenzi wa large infrastructures. Zina best engineers, best technologies etc. huduma zake ni bora na aghali.

Na mwisho huwezi kufananisha ujenzi wa reli Tanzania na railway construction projects zinazoendelea UK, kwa ubora na gharama. Ingawa pia ni vyema kutambua terrain nayo ina-determine construction costs.

Jisomee hapa kidogo A year in rail: 2017's biggest projects
 
ghetto masii said:
umeshasema we sio engineer sasa haya mambo utayajuaje? hata hostel UDSM walisema haziwezekani kwa bill 10 ila leo makandarasi na wahandisi pori wote waliokomalia huu upuuzi wamekimbia jukwaani
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Pengine hukuelewa mantiki ya hoja za walio-question ujenzi huo. Give it time, na tuone jinsi majengo hayo yatakuwa katika hali gani; na gharama zitakazokuwa zikitumika kwa repair and maintenance.

Kutumia bilioni 10 siyo ishu. Ishu ni ubora na uimarawa hayo majengo. Wakati utatuonyesha.
 
Hizo treni zitakuwa kama za India poor quality. Na tangu lini wataruki wakatengeneza treni. Wangeita mjerumani au mjapana waanzilishi wa hizi treni za mwendo kasi.
 
mashoodjr said:
Hizo treni zitakuwa kama za India poor quality. Na tangu lini wataruki wakatengeneza treni. Wangeita mjerumani au mjapana waanzilishi wa hizi treni za mwendo kasi.
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Mkuu wajerumani na wajapani hatuwezi kuwa afford hata siku moja ndio maana nchi nyingi za africa na asia wanakimbilia china sababu wapo affordable. Lakini mturuki kajenga reli kwao kajenga uarabuni kajenga ethiopia na south africa kwa hizo nchi kama walimwamini na uthibitisho upo kwanini tusiwaamini?manake wataalum wetu walikwenda kuziona hizo kazi zao na kujiakikisha ndio maana wakawapa hizo tenda nafikili tupo salama.
 
What our neighbor has said is just a precaution ,l don't see any way that Kenyans became jealous for what is happening in Tanzania.

We have a very big trust for our President for what he is doing ,especially when its come to these party of infrastructure.

If Kenyans have seen any problem somewhere with how the deal was negotiated then its not bad to alert us.

We still need strong and cheap transportation systems in our Country and regional at large let's wait and see.
 
I wonder what was the aim of this thread. The railway hasn't even started construction yet, and here we are poking holes in it already.

For now, we should be happy that our neighbours are getting their standard gauge railway. Their growth is Kenya's growth too, considering that Kenya is one of the biggest investors in TZ.
 
Gitimu Peter said:
I wonder what was the aim of this thread. The railway hasn't even started construction yet, and here we are poking holes in it already.

For now, we should be happy that our neighbours are getting their standard gauge railway. Their growth is Kenya's growth too, considering that Kenya is one of the biggest investors in TZ.
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Tanzania is the Biggest Kenya's Market. Think this way
 
Nzi said:
Pengine hukuelewa mantiki ya hoja za walio-question ujenzi huo. Give it time, na tuone jinsi majengo hayo yatakuwa katika hali gani; na gharama zitakazokuwa zikitumika kwa repair and maintenance.

Kutumia bilioni 10 siyo ishu. Ishu ni ubora na uimarawa hayo majengo. Wakati utatuonyesha.
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injinia mwitu
 
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