Tatizo si Kikwete na uelewa wake bali chuo kikuu alichosoma!

Ngandema Bwila said:

Du naona kuna ka ukweli fulani, wengi wa jamaa wanotuka hapo huwa hawajaiva sawa sawa. Nimefanya kazi na jamaa wa UDSM wengine na Masters zao, lkn application ya taaluma zao huwa ngumu. Graduate wengine wa UDSM Wengine nimesoma nao Masters pala SUA, kweli ni Tia maji tia maji. Tena kwa taaluma walizo somea. Hata hivyo sitaki kuamini kuwa tatizo ni chuo bali watu kuto jibidisha zaidi ya kukalili formula za vitabuni.

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Ni kweli kabisa. Hata hiyo ranking haisemi chochote kuhusu ufundishaji. To my knowledge vyou vinakuwa ranked sana sana kutokana na idadi ya research wanazofanya. Na kama tujuavyo research za UD zinazowapa chart ndo hizo za Redet na bans and banner zinazotolewa monthly. Kwa SUA I have no objection with the quality of their researches.

Base ya ranking unaijua lakini? Ni research, na kwa UD research nyingi ni za REDET. Una la kusema hapo. Tunaongelea ufundishaji na si research za kisisasa ambazo zinakuwa published monthly.

Ta Muganyizi said:

Top 100 Universities and Colleges in Africa by the 4icu.org University Web Ranking


1 University of Cape TownSouth Africa

2 University of PretoriaSouth Africa

3 Universiteit StellenboschSouth Africa

4 The American University in CairoEgypt

5 University of the WitwatersrandSouth Africa

6 University of KwaZulu-NatalSouth Africa

7 Rhodes UniversitySouth Africa

8 University of South AfricaSouth Africa

9 Cairo UniversityEgypt

10 University of the Western CapeSouth Africa

11 Mansoura UniversityEgypt

12 University of NairobiKenya

13 University of Dar es SalaamTanzania

14 University of BotswanaBotswana

15 Université Cadi AyyadMorocco

16 University of GhanaGhana

17 Helwan UniversityEgypt

18 Alexandria UniversityEgypt

19 Université de la ReunionReunion

20 Tshwane University of TechnologySouth Africa

21 Universidade Eduardo MondlaneMozambique

22 Université Abou Bekr Belkaid TlemcenAlgeria

23 Makerere UniversityUganda

24 Université Cheikh Anta DiopSenegal

25 Université des Sciences et de la Technologie Mohamed Boudiaf d'OranAlgeria

26 University of ZambiaZambia

27 University of MauritiusMauritius

28 Addis Ababa UniversityEthiopia

29 Université de OuagadougouBurkina Faso

30 University of IlorinNigeria

31 Polytechnic of NamibiaNamibia

32 International University of AfricaSudan

33 University of IbadanNigeria

34 University of LagosNigeria

35 Obafemi Awolowo UniversityNigeria

36 Cape Peninsula University of TechnologySouth Africa

37 Sudan University for Science and TechnologySudan

38 University of JohannesburgSouth Africa

39 Nelson Mandela Metropolitan UniversitySouth Africa

40 Zagazig UniversityEgypt

41 North-West UniversitySouth Africa

42 Université Mentouri de ConstantineAlgeria

43 University of KhartoumSudan

44 The German University in CairoEgypt

45 Durban University of TechnologySouth Africa

46 Université des Sciences et de la Technologie Houari BoumedièneAlgeria

47 Central University of TechnologySouth Africa

48 Université Abdelhamid Ibn Badis MostaganemAlgeria

49 Université de BatnaAlgeria

50 Al Akhawayn UniversityMorocco

51 University of GaryounisLibya

52 Strathmore UniversityKenya

53 Kwame Nkrumah University of Science and TechnologyGhana

54 Tanta UniversityEgypt

55 Université d'AlgerAlgeria

56 Kenyatta UniversityKenya

57 Assiut UniversityEgypt

58 Al Azhar UniversityEgypt

59 Mogadishu UniversitySomalia

60 University of BeninNigeria

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62 South Valley UniversityEgypt

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85 Bayan College for Science and TechnologySudan

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88 Mauritius Institute of EducationMauritius

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94 University of Fort HareSouth Africa

95 National University of RwandaRwanda

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Papa D said:

Ukweli ni kwamba wahitimu wengi wa Chuo kikuu cha Dar es salaam ni vilaza/wababaishaji [Si kikwete tu!]. Hii inatokana na jinsi wanavyofundishwa [wanakaririshwa na si kueleweshwa] watu wa aina hiyo huishia kuwa wenye nadharia nyingi kuliko utendaji. Mwisho wa safari huwa walalamishi wazuri sana. Chanzo kikuu cha kutoa vilaza ni kwamba Walimu/professors wa mlimani wamejaa wivu na husda!!!

Mwanafunzi aliyehitimu Mzumbe au DIT ni bora kuliko mhitimu wa Mlimani!! POLENI SANA WAHITIMU WA MLIMANI!!

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Mzee,

Hata sijajua lengo lako ni nini! Hivi Hayati John Garang na Kaguta Museveni walisoma wapi vile? Na shivji je alisoma wapi? Tundu Lisu?

UDSM imetoa viongozi wazuri sana na imetoa mchango mkubwa kwa nchi. Hivi Spika Anna Makinda alisoma wapi vile?

salisalum said:

Mzee,

Hata sijajua lengo lako ni nini! Hivi Hayati John Garang na Kaguta Museveni walisoma wapi vile? Na shivji je alisoma wapi? Tundu Lisu?

UDSM imetoa viongozi wazuri sana na imetoa mchango mkubwa kwa nchi. Hivi Spika Anna Makinda alisoma wapi vile?

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Anna Makinda ni product ya Mzumbe, si unaona maamuzi yake yalivyo ya kubabaisha? Mara oo thibitisha, mara oo kwa maandishi tena lete ofisini kwangu. Nini Bana........................

nyumba kubwa said:

Base ya ranking unaijua lakini? Ni research, na kwa UD research nyingi ni za REDET. Una la kusema hapo. Tunaongelea ufundishaji na si research za kisisasa ambazo zinakuwa published monthly.

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Umesaidia sana! hivi vyuo anavyosema bwana Papa viko wapi kwe orodha hii?

masaiti said:

Anna Makinda ni product ya Mzumbe, si unaona maamuzi yake yalivyo ya kubabaisha? Mara oo thibitisha, mara oo kwa maandishi tena lete ofisini kwangu. Nini Bana........................

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Asante bwana,

Nilitaka papa D. ajue hilo

Papa D said:

Ukweli ni kwamba wahitimu wengi wa Chuo kikuu cha Dar es salaam ni vilaza/wababaishaji [Si kikwete tu!]. Hii inatokana na jinsi wanavyofundishwa [wanakaririshwa na si kueleweshwa] watu wa aina hiyo huishia kuwa wenye nadharia nyingi kuliko utendaji. Mwisho wa safari huwa walalamishi wazuri sana. Chanzo kikuu cha kutoa vilaza ni kwamba Walimu/professors wa mlimani wamejaa wivu na husda!!!

Mwanafunzi aliyehitimu Mzumbe au DIT ni bora kuliko mhitimu wa Mlimani!! POLENI SANA WAHITIMU WA MLIMANI!!

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Papa D, Wewe ulisoma wapi?

Ng'wanangwa said:

jamaa analina asali mchana kweupeeee.

lazima nyuki wamng'ate tu.

subiri uone.

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Duh, msukuma umenichekesha. Nyuki mchana halafu wanamuingilia kwenye korodani..... noma ile mbaya.

Papa D said:

Ukweli ni kwamba wahitimu wengi wa Chuo kikuu cha Dar es salaam ni vilaza/wababaishaji [Si kikwete tu!]. Hii inatokana na jinsi wanavyofundishwa [wanakaririshwa na si kueleweshwa] watu wa aina hiyo huishia kuwa wenye nadharia nyingi kuliko utendaji. Mwisho wa safari huwa walalamishi wazuri sana. Chanzo kikuu cha kutoa vilaza ni kwamba Walimu/professors wa mlimani wamejaa wivu na husda!!!

Mwanafunzi aliyehitimu Mzumbe au DIT ni bora kuliko mhitimu wa Mlimani!! POLENI SANA WAHITIMU WA MLIMANI!!

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Teh teh, hizi research zingine za JF noma..

Tunaomba utupe methodology uliyotumia!sample size yako.

Ukipigwa na maumivu ya maisha kwa sababu ya JK usikurupuke kufanya conclusion za ajabu.

Kila mwanafunzi anayemaliza Form Six hapa Tz huwa ana ndoto za kusoma UDSM (kitovu cha elimu Tanzania). Wale wanaokosa chance ya kupita kwenye yale ma-corridor (kutokana na points kutotosha) mara nyingi hujenga chuki dhidi ya wana-UDSM. Mwenendo wa thread hii unajidhihirisha wazi. Nakumbuka hata miaka ya nyuma kulikuwa na malumbano sana baina ya wana-UDSM na iliyokuwa IDM Mzumbe. Wale wa Mzumbe, enzi hizo wakisoma Advanced Diploma walikuwa wanadai ni sawa na first degree! Lakini kilichokuwa kinatokea ni kwamba hawa wa Mzumbe wakiomba kufanya masters wanaambiwa wasome kwanza first degree.

hivi kama Walioba alikuwa amefoji PhD yake pamoja na wengine pale Mzumbe ambao wamefutiwa. hivi athari yake ni nini kwa waliokuwa wanasimamiwa na watu hawa?
na hivi PhD nyingine feki ukizifuatilia zimetolewa Mzumbe. nisingependa kuwataja wahusika wake

Papa D said:

Ukweli ni kwamba wahitimu wengi wa Chuo kikuu cha Dar es salaam ni vilaza/wababaishaji [Si kikwete tu!]. Hii inatokana na jinsi wanavyofundishwa [wanakaririshwa na si kueleweshwa] watu wa aina hiyo huishia kuwa wenye nadharia nyingi kuliko utendaji. Mwisho wa safari huwa walalamishi wazuri sana. Chanzo kikuu cha kutoa vilaza ni kwamba Walimu/professors wa mlimani wamejaa wivu na husda!!!

Mwanafunzi aliyehitimu Mzumbe au DIT ni bora kuliko mhitimu wa Mlimani!! POLENI SANA WAHITIMU WA MLIMANI!!

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unasemaje kwa degree ambazo zipo UDSM na hazipo MZUMBE?
degree nyingi za Mzumbe ni za usanii kama Accounting, business management, public administration nk

Ukweli ni kwamba kwa Tanzania UDSM ni mambo yote, lakini swali linakuja jee UDSM inamuandaa mtu kuwa critical thinker? Jee UDSM imetoa mchango kubwa kwa taifa ukilinganisha na fund inayopokea kutoka kwa taifa la Tanzania?

Those are critical questions that a Tanzanian society need to digest. Mwalim alisema kuanzishwa kwa UDSM lazima kuwe chachu ya kuzalisha independent thinkers. Jee is it still valid kwamba UDSM produce independent thinker?

The argument can go both ways, unaweza kusema yes UDSM ndio imezaa kina Dr. Shivji, Tundu Lisu and many more. Vile vile unaweza kusema UDSM imetuletea JK, Masha na wengine. All this arguments are based on Political leadership.

However, the question stand kwamba ni kwa jinsi gani UDSM imesaidia Tanzania society kwa research and development, ujasilimali and generation of ethical leaders?
Mimi ni moja wa wale wanao support kwamba mitaala ya chuo kikuu cha Dar es salaam inabidi ibadilishwe, kutoka kwenye exam based system kwenda kwenye combination ya mitiani na kufikiria nje ya kisanduku. Instead ya wanafunzi kuamini kwamba wao ndio cream ya nchi, wanatakiwa wajue kwamba wao ndio wanatakiwa wakazalishe kazi, wao ndio wanatakiwa wakatoe opinion zao kwenye sehemu mbalimbali za jamii ya Tanzania.

Kuendelea kwao kula bia na kuponda starehe kwa pesa za walipa kodi nadhani ni uwazimu. Nimezungumzia UDSM pekee sababu nimekua ndani ya chuo, nilibahatika kuchaguliwa kwenda kusoma even though i chose something else.

We elimu ulosoma sijui inakusaidiaje, maana vitu unovoongea ni kama failure flan, i doubt ur sense :A S 20:

it's useless arguing with a fool(here is referred as papa D)..as i shall be a fool than himself..am just a passer-by...

Jamani ukweli ni kuwa vyuo vyote wanakariri, ila udsm kidogo ndoo wamezidi. Japo in certain demain ni wazuri. Mzumbe ndoo kabisa jugement capacity bado. Kwa ujumla E;imu tanzania bado ya kizushi sana. Tatizo ni kujisahau. Research lab ni mahali pa kutafutia miradi ya kupatia fedha. siasa zimezidi. Hawataki kujifunza. Hivyo mkwere hata angesoma Sua, Mzumbe DIT bala linge kuwa palepale kwani hakuna aliye mwema.

jamani, tatizo linaweza kuwa sio ubovu wa UDSM, nadhani ni suala la zima la mfumo wetu wa elimu, tusitegemee kuwa eti tofauti ya utendaji wetu itarekebishwa kwa miaka 3 uliyospend SUA, Mzumbe , UDSM etc. ukosefu wa uzalendo na ubunifu ktk mafunzo yetu ni tatizo sugu! Afu tanzania imekuwa na chuo kimoja hadi 1984, tukawa na SUA, then Open 1994 hivyo wazee wote tulio nao walio soma miaka ya 80s backwards they are bound to be UDSM graduate kama hawakwenda nje. Na je hao wa nje how different are they?

suala la vilaza ni la kitaifa, nchi ina watu milion 43 na zaidi graduate hawafiki laki, nini cha kujisifu? ni tatizo hilo tunaishia kuchagua maraisi wabovu, mawaziri hadi ma VC feki, maprofessor wasioweza kusimamia hata hoja za kitaaluma eti wanafuata matakwa ya vyama vyao! Hizo ndo cream mnazotaka kujisifia nazo?

salisalum said:

Mzee,

Hata sijajua lengo lako ni nini! Hivi Hayati John Garang na Kaguta Museveni walisoma wapi vile? Na shivji je alisoma wapi? Tundu Lisu?

UDSM imetoa viongozi wazuri sana na imetoa mchango mkubwa kwa nchi. Hivi Spika Anna Makinda alisoma wapi vile?

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Mkuu, nafikiri hiyo red kama ilisoma UDSM then ndo sababu ya kusema yote hayo.
Sema alichokosea ni kugeneralize, otherwise wapo mabogus wengi tu, mifano ipo mingi tu:A S 20::A S 20::A S 20::A S 20::A S 20:

Alosema kuna vyuo vina wanafunzi elfu 10 (10,000) duniani ajue kuwa bado ratio ya student lecturer ni kubwa nina maana wana lecturers wengi pia na hakuna anayesahihisha essay 3000. Na ujue technolojia ahisahihishi essay leave aside the fact that we don't have softwares za ku detect vitu kama plagiarism in any university in TZ. Mwisho wa siku walimu sijuhi ndo mnawahita lecturers hawasahihishi na wanafunzi wanakuwa demoralized na ni kureproduce kazi za watu kwenda mbele. Mimi nimesoma chuo kina wanafuni 25,000 lakini darasani tulikuwa hatuzidi 20.

UDSM kilikuwa chuo kizuri sana kilichotoa elimu nzuri sana miaka hiyo, at least hadi mwaka 1990. Sielewi miaka ya karibuni kwa vile kumekuwa na uongozi wa kibabaishaji na siasa zimekiingilia sana. Ni muhimu kufahamu kuwa katika msafara wa mamba, hata Kenge pia wamo, kwa hiyo tukifuata standard performance ya 2-sigma, katika kila graduate 100 wa UDSM kutakuwa na vilaza (kenge) kama watano hivi (wanaitwa outliers), na hiyo natural process inatokea duniani kote. kwa hiyo basi siwezi kushangaa kuwa huenda Kikwete alikuwa ni mmoja wa wale 5% outliers!!!.

UDSM ndiyo imeinua vyuo vingine vingi sana hapo Tanzania kwa kufundisha watu ambao ndio wamekujwa kuwa maprofesa wa vyuo hivyo: SUA, MU, SAUT, UDOM na vingine vingi tu. Haiwezekani wao wawe vilaza halafu eti wakawafundishe vipanga.