The 1st 2013 Kenyan Presidential Debate

[Kimbunga]

Kenya kuna vyama vya msimu! Wagombea wanatakiwa keleza jinsi watakavyoepukana na vyama vya msimu.

 

[lane]

Kuna Msomali hapo nae ni Candidate! kwanini wanaruhusu Msomali kugombea? huyo si ni mkimbizi toka Somalia? uraia wa kununua utaleta balaa! kesho utasikia Rage nae anataka Urais!

we jamaa una matatizo gani? Wenzako wakenya wanawauliza presidential candidates wao namna ya kuondokana na ukabila na wee bado unang'ang'ana nalo tu

unataka kuniambia wamarekani wangemzuia baraka obama kugombea kwa sababu ni 'mkenya mwafrika' kwa asili

my friend ukabila wako haukusaidii kitu, it wont feed or clothe you! Stand out and fight it using whatever resources you have

kwa ufupi ukabila ni dhana ya ubinafsi na ubaguzi ambayo mkishabaguana kikabila, haitaishia hapo, bali mtabaguana kiukoo ndani ya kabila, halafu kifamilia halafu individually. Ni dhambo mbaya sana kama sawa na kula nyama ya mtu. This old man nyerere was damn right!

Acha hiyo maneno mkuu

 

[Dhuks]

Guys be serious, kenyan somalis are part and parcel of kenya.

 

[mbezibeach 2]

Uhuru is not fit to be president!

Hapo umenena mkuu....Uhuru ni mweupe sana upstairs ila anategemea nguvu za Kabila lake tu... Kwa Mdahalo wa Leo Thanks to P.K.Matiba, Martha Karua and Raila Amollo.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Hapo umenena mkuu....Uhuru ni mweupe sana upstairs ila anategemea nguvu za Kabila lake tu... Kwa Mdahalo wa Leo Thanks to P.K.Matiba, Martha Karua and Raila Amollo.

Uhuru ni kilaza? Wow!

 

[Bangoo]

Vilanza kama akina Ritz huwezi waona kwenye unyenye huku!

 

[Mkirua]

You mean the moderator?:becky:

Definitely.....The guy seems to be fair and smart...

 

[Mfamaji]

Mbona naona wengine kama Wasomali?

 

[bht]

Dah! Huyo Uamsho look-alike naona alisahauliwa hadi na mimi nikasahau kama yupo stejini:becky:

Dida mimi sijawahi hata kuona kampeni zake, na mara ya kwanza kimwona ni vile alipeleka makaratasi yake kwenye tume ya uchaguzi, nahisi yeye ni fungu la kusahaulika.

Hicho chama chake ni cha zamani?

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Definitely.....The guy seems to be fair and smart...

But where is the lady? I thought she was going to co-moderate the debate...

 

[Curriculum Specialist]

MODS mngeipeleka SIASA hii mpaka debate ikishaisha ili wale wahuni wa CHADEMA na CCM waone jinsi watu wanavyo engage kwenye mijadala yenye akili

CCM ndo wahuni walikimbia hata debate za ubunge 2010! 2015 Sijui nani atajibu maswali yanayohusu ufisadi!

 

[King’asti]

Kenneth kaoa na hataki mpango wa kando na kwa taarifa Yako mke wake ni aina ya Lucy Kibaki...heheeee!

hivi ukipopotea ulienda kufanya phd ya uchawi naijeria ama ghana? Hebu toka hapa, napindua serikali ya ndani!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Parties are supposed to have an ideology - Martha.

Binti Wassira mmoja alisema eti ideology si muhimu...lol

 

[Mwita Maranya]

Mkuu pole. Subiri gesi ya Mtwara ikifika miaka mitano ijayo mambo yatakuwa sawa.

Martha amempiga msumari Kenyatta kuhusu kesi yake ya Hague na pia amemsahihisha Odinga ambaye ameongopa kwamba kura ilipigwa bungeni kuamua kama mahakama ya kuwashitaki watuhumiwe iwe Kenya ama ICC. Martha amesema kura haikupigwa. Raila kanywea.

Kenyatta linajibu maswali kwa ufasaha na kujiamini. Nadhani amepata ile kitu ya Tarime.

Hahaha na kweli Tarime ni jirani tu na nairobea. Akikosa cha Tarime anakamatia kitu cha Somalia.
So far unaona nani amejipambanua vizuri kati ya farasi wawili?

 

[King’asti]

Martha on democracy and the leadership, and strengthening the ofisi ya msajili wa vyama vya siasa. Nice one again madame.

 

[Kadogoo]

we jamaa una matatizo gani? Wenzako wakenya wanawauliza presidential candidates wao namna ya kuondokana na ukabila na wee bado unang'ang'ana nalo tu

unataka kuniambia wamarekani wangemzuia baraka obama kugombea kwa sababu ni 'mkenya mwafrika' kwa asili

my friend ukabila wako haukusaidii kitu, it wont feed or clothe you! Stand out and fight it using whatever resources you have

kwa ufupi ukabila ni dhana ya ubinafsi na ubaguzi ambayo mkishabaguana kikabila, haitaishia hapo, bali mtabaguana kiukoo ndani ya kabila, halafu kifamilia halafu individually. Ni dhambo mbaya sana kama sawa na kula nyama ya mtu. This old man nyerere was damn right!

Acha hiyo maneno mkuu

Nimekusikia Mkuu! ukabila si kiti kizuri! jee, na udini nao unasemaje? Kila idara ya Serikali, mashirika ya umma, Wizara, wakuu wa Mikoa na ofisi zao, Makatibu wakuu wote na Mashuleni, kila kona ni dini moja tu imehodhi kila kitu!

sasa huu udini tutauondoaje? Kama Nyerere aliondoa Ukabila na sisi tuna mikakati gani ya ya kuondoa udini TZ?

 

[Zion Daughter]

nina shauku sana na huu mdahalo...

Nakuona na suti yako umewahi siti ya mbele kabisa

 

[MwanaFalsafa1]

Swali zuri kwa wagombea juu ya uanzishwaji wa vyama vya 'msimu' wakati wa uchaguzi kuwabeba wagombea kwa maana nyingine Kenya hakuna vyama madhubuti kama vyama vya siasa Tanzania CHADEMA, CCM, NCCR-MAGEUZI , CUF n.k ambavyo siyo vya msimu.

In Kenyan politics the driving force is tribalism and not ideology and that is why it is easy for a person to leave a party and start a new party and be relevant because they can expect support based on party lines. Meaning if a leading Kikuyu leaves a party and forms another one all the Kikuyus will switch and support that party. In Tanzania you can not be say a Msukuma and leave the party and expect your tribe or your region will switch to your new party. In Kenya political parties are just tools of few ambitious politicians. In Tanzania there is actually a STIGMA on politicians who switch parties too often.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Social democracy - Raila's ideology.

 

[King’asti]

Ati kwa nini siwezi kuchagua Karua kama rais? Hata gari bila reverse gear siwezi endesha, sitaki kusikia kesho kenya inajihami kivita kupigana na Russia.

hahahaha, kenya ipambane na russia. Hapo hata jk wetu atawashinda akili, lololo