The Daily Nation(Kenya): Like others, Tanzania's Magufuli is bound to fail

The Daily Nation(Kenya): Like others, Tanzania's Magufuli is bound to fail

Wazungu hawawezi kumsifia adui.

japokuwa kwa mbali jamaa anafail.
 
Ethos said:
You were Indeed Manipulated. If feel sorry for you and other people of your type.

Lowassa is not a corrupt person. Lowassa is the president (in hearts of many). We are going to remember him soon. Watch this space!!
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This is all water under the bridge. The elections are over.

Why don't you (opposition) try to field Lowassa in 2020 or 2025 and see if the denizens of Tanzania agree with you.
 
Ethos said:
It is not what I want. I just pointed out the obvious things here. Excuse me!
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So, let us assume I am on CCM payroll. Would this invalidate my critique of prof. Cheeseman article? You see, this is where objectivity comes in. Look at my responses to the article by the good professor and tell me where you disagree or agree with me. Resorting to name-calling (brainwashed, CCM stooge, and the like) leaves a lot to be desired about your intellectual capacity.

If you want I am going to make things simple for you - call me a CCM stalwart. But then let us elevate this discourse to discuss ideas presented in this thread. Short of that I would suggest that probably you are in the wrong forum.
 
tpaul said:
Wazungu huwa hawarembi. Wao husema ukweli bila kumumunya maneno. Ni kweli magufuli amefail kabla hata hajaanza. He is a failure.
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Sasa mkuu nikuulize swali:
Was Kikwete a failure?
Was Mkapa a failure?
Was Mwinyi a failure?
Was Nyerere a failure?

What metric do you use (ni kigezo gani unachotumia) to measure success or failure. The guy has just completed 20% of his first presidential term and you already call him a failure? I remember you guys were calling him a failure within a month of taking office. Please Sir, list for us the metrics you use to measure failure of our leaders.

I am trying to stay with the English language because this is an English only forum. However, I will whip out my native Swahili from time to time.

Wewe mkuu umenisikitisha sana. Hati "Wazungu huwa hawarembi". My God. Hivi umejisikiliza ulichokiandika. Tuko karne ya 21 na bado we are kissing white-man behinds. Pitiful. Kumbe hii ndio sababu ya upinzani kila mara kukimbilia mataifa ya ulaya na marekani kukitokea mtafaruku hata kidogo hapa nchini?

Kwa kweli sisi bado tunatawalia na wazungu kifikra, na hicho kinanisikitisha sana.

Ya-rabi, tutakuja jitawala lini sisi maskini?
 
Kifyatu said:
Sasa mkuu nikuulize swali:
Was Kikwete a failure?
Was Mkapa a failure?
Was Mwinyi a failure?
Was Nyerere a failure?

What metric do you use (ni kigezo gani unachotumia) to measure success or failure. The guy has just completed 20% of his first presidential term and you already call him a failure? I remember you guys were calling him a failure within a month of taking office. Please Sir, list for us the metrics you use to measure failure of our leaders.

I am trying to stay with the English language because this is an English only forum. However, I will whip out my native Swahili from time to time.

Wewe mkuu umenisikitisha sana. Hati "Wazungu huwa hawarembi". My God. Hivi umejisikiliza ulichokiandika. Tuko karne ya 21 na bado we are kissing white-man behinds. Pitiful. Kumbe hii ndio sababu ya upinzani kila mara kukimbilia mataifa ya ulaya na marekani kukitokea mtafaruku hata kidogo hapa nchini?

Kwa kweli sisi bado tunatawalia na wazungu kifikra, na hicho kinanisikitisha sana.

Ya-rabi, tutakuja jitawala lini sisi maskini?
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He is '' likely'' to fail
 
Kifyatu said:
So, let us assume I am on CCM payroll. Would this invalidate my critique of prof. Cheeseman article? You see, this is where objectivity comes in. Look at my responses to the article by the good professor and tell me where you disagree or agree with me. Resorting to name-calling (brainwashed, CCM stooge, and the like) leaves a lot to be desired about your intellectual capacity.

If you want I am going to make things simple for you - call me a CCM stalwart. But then let us elevate this discourse to discuss ideas presented in this thread. Short of that I would suggest that probably you are in the wrong forum.
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CCM 's payroll is killing your thinking aptness.

Prof. Cheeseman said JPM is likely to fail citing a bona fide instance of Satta.

He is on the right path currently but care should be taken in making sure that Democratic principles are adhered, which are Legal Equality, Political Freedom, and the rule of law...

A self proclaimed egalitarian kind of leadership is not relevant when the rights of a certain class in the society are infringed.
 
Ethos said:
CCM 's payroll is killing your thinking aptness.

Prof. Cheeseman said JPM is likely to fail citing a bona fide instance of Satta.

He is on the right path currently but care should be taken in making sure that Democratic principles are adhered, which are Legal Equality, Political Freedom, and the rule of law...

A self proclaimed egalitarian kind of leadership is not relevant when the rights of a certain class in the society are infringed.
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Likely to fail implies a probabilistic estimation of Magufuli's future performance. Is it a 51% likelihood or a 90%. I will take those odds anytime. His (Magufuli's) track record over the years has shown him to be goal oriented and outcome driven. If his prior performance in leadership is anything to go by then the prognosis looks very good to me. I would rate his future probability of success at more than 80%. You see, before this professor decided to make these flippant assessments that Magufuli is likely to fail, he should have done a probabilistic analysis of his past performances first.

Are Britain and USA Democracies?
You talk a lot about democratic principles and how they are likely to be bent under Magufuli's rule. Let us look at Britain and USA. The so called "main stream media" is feeding their people lies with the sole purpose of denying their people of the right information for them to make informed decisions (elections). Information is the first prerequisite for a democratic process.

USA and Britain are no longer democracies. They are plutocracies (governments of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations). The corporations (include corporate media) are basically running these countries. It doesn't matter whether Trump or Clinton wins the election. Each one of them is going to do the biding of their corporate masters. USA and Britain are just tools of the multinationals.

If Mr. Cheeseman is a professor worth his salt, I would have liked him to start criticizing British and American governments for stifling democracy in their countries instead of taking cheap shots at Magufuli and Tanzania.
 
One important thing to alert this professa ...Magufuli is a persistent leader who believes on his agenda...
 
Ethos said:
Lumumba agents at work! TSHS 7000 per day!
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Vipi, unataka tukufanyie machepta na wewe uingie? Buku saba sio haba! Jua kali mkuu.

Just kidding, Sir. But I agree with you, great minds think alike. So it is not a coincidence that jingalao and I agree on these issues.
 
ragallah2 said:
So what is your point then? I thought you said Bush and Blair went against the wishes of their own people. If Bush was voted in again, then it means the people approved his policies.

My point is there is no country which has a perfect democracy

As for Blair, why did he step down? You know he was universally vilified as Bush's lapdog.

With all that he was not forced to step down, to me as a perfect democracy both Blair and Bush would have been taken to The Hague, but they are both free instead of being in jail. Blair stepped down on his own accord and now he is free, making money while Iraq is in the messy in name of democracy.

And if an entire country depends on the goodwill of just one person, you are guaranteed Hitler and Mussolini.

You are wrong. President MAGUFULI is working with his cabinet and a lot of advisers. Again you are wrong, even Hitler never worked alone.

Hardly, I am just voicing an opinion

It is okay as long it not misleading

And what is with shouting and screaming with uppercase letters? It does not make you any more persuasive.
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So that people like you who writes silly articles take notice
 
ragallah2 said:
So what is your point then? I thought you said Bush and Blair went against the wishes of their own people. If Bush was voted in again, then it means the people approved his policies.

As for Blair, why did he step down? You know he was universally vilified as Bush's lapdog.

And if an entire country depends on the goodwill of just one person, you are guaranteed Hitler and Mussolini.


Hardly, I am just voicing an opinion.

And what is with shouting and screaming with uppercase letters? It does not make you any more persuasive.[/QUOTE
ragallah2 said:
So what is your point then? I thought you said Bush and Blair went against the wishes of their own people. If Bush was voted in again, then it means the people approved his policies.

My point is there is no country which has a perfect democracy

As for Blair, why did he step down? You know he was universally vilified as Bush's lapdog.

With all that he was not forced to step down, to me as a perfect democracy both Blair and Bush would have been taken to The Hague, but they are both free instead of being in jail. Blair stepped down on his own accord and now he is free, making money while Iraq is in the messy in name of democracy.

And if an entire country depends on the goodwill of just one person, you are guaranteed Hitler and Mussolini.

You are wrong. President MAGUFULI is working with his cabinet and a lot of advisers. Again you are wrong, even Hitler never worked alone.

Hardly, I am just voicing an opinion

It is okay as long it not misleading

And what is with shouting and screaming with uppercase letters? It does not make you any more persuasive.
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So that people like you who writes silly articles take notice
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makoye2009 said:
Mama Obama,
Despite your praises and worship to make your Magufuli more popular it won't work!
The writer/author of the article:"Magufuli is bound to fail" not sure if is a Kenyan or a Tanzanian, he/she is correct by almost 99%.
Let me say this to you and the rest of all who looks and supports Magufuli as their role modal President. Magufuli is nothing but just a mere dictator driving Tanzania like an insober driver. You can refer and quote Mzee Ali Hassan Mwinyi's (rtd Presida) speech delivered on Nyerere day the 14th of Oct,2016. We have just about 2 weeks ahead for Magufuli to clock a 1 solid year in office(365 days). But if some one can make simple survey or analysis, Magufuli is nothing but an empty can. This is where the checks and Balances comes in.
You can't rule the country by a one man show style. This had never worked anywhere and in the world and equally won't work to Magufuli! As the analyst has put it that populist government usually needs to break eggs to make omelettes so as to make their followers happy. This is a naked truth that, in the same country, same president and same constitution you can't make some citizens to suffer just for the sake of others simply because they are from the opposition side! This is a double standard style which will never work. A good President is the one who makes sure that the rule of law is observed according to the Constitution of Tanzania and not otherwise. Magufuli has proved a big failure to this although he was sworn in to take care of the same!.

The author have gone a bit further by giving give examples of other failed previous governments,which takes the popularity actions as Magufuli is currently doing. The popularity egoism in Presidents like Magufuli do mask and limit their strategies.

Magufuli is sailing in the same boat of refusal to follow or strengthen rules of law. Live examples are there to stand. Magufuli has failed to handle the Zanzibar issue, harassing opposition parties by denying them to hold internal/external meetings and peaceful demonstrations according to Tanzania Constitution. Magufuli has as well failed totally to Peoples basic needs like Sugar availability at fair prices, there is now no ESSENTIAL MEDICINES in Hospitals, Dispensaries and Health Centres, there is no more employment at all levels, there is no financial flows anywhere! Magufuli's government now can't even support Financial Loans to our children who expect to join Universities and different Institutions.
Magufuli's priority is Bombardier planes and not Medicines for the dying children and maternal mothers! Look at Kagera Earthquake disaster and hunger strikes but the Magufuli Government is collecting money from donors for infrustructures in Kagera!!! This is the sign of a bankrupcy government. Look at a journalist who reported the hunger case in Kagera but ended in custody!!

If you can real mark these statements it can really change your mind set, but if you don't you're then doomed for good.
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You sound like those few people who were having a good time during KIKWETE rule while the majority of Tanzanians suffering.

What President MAGUFULI is doing is the only way to put Tanzania straight. People who are used to take short cut now they can not cope with the truth. The chest thumbing people who used to use their position to intimidate others are finding difficult to cope.

People who made themselves rich by stealing from the majority are feeling the pain.

People like Mbowe the so called head of oppostion who took advantage doing business in a public building free and not paying rent for so many years amounting to 1.3 billions will hate President MAGUFULI because the rule of law is touching the untouchable, so therefore, `I do understand your pain.
I will never change my mind as I am one of the Tanzanians who support fairness and hate injustice. President MAGUFULI government, so far is doing just that, it has shown to be fair for the majority of Tanzanians, the few let them complain.
 
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