The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi
The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi
Mimibaba
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Nakushauri uwasiliane na ofisi ya sheikh mkuu wa Tanzania ambao walikuwa na annul visits Libya. Lakini kwa usomi wako, nakushauri query google
TUJITEGEMEE
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@mamanalia: Thanks for bringing this useful information out
Societa Jesuit
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A source?.......seems we are so affected by western sources......jaribu kupenda cha kwako and addition to that many africans have been flowing there and have physical
sources by eyewitness.
Is the issue about Jesus or Gadaffi? You really have a problem, kwani you have to find a loophole to bring udini in every topic, and in fact there is no slight indication of udini from the one who started the topic!!! You must be really sick, as ukristo kweli unakusumbua....How does Jesus come into this discussion? How can you talk about Jesus you dont know and even believe? How can you talk about democracy of which you have no sl8ghtest clue as what it is? When Jess says "I am the way, the truth and the life..." He is not forcing anyone into the kingdom, rather he is inviting people and people did make choice to either follow him or refuse...Do you really know what democracy means? Jesus talked about theocracy and nt democracy my friend and please spare Jesus out of this Gadhaffi business....You need help...psychologically since Jesus and Christianity is really eating you up and eventually you can not do anything about the faith of another person...stay with your faith and dont make makufuru kwa imani za watu wengine....
Libyan rebels hit by NATO air attack
Second such incident in less than a week leaves five fighters dead, in country's eastern oil town of Brega.
"We were standing by our tanks and NATO fired two rockets at us," said one, Salem Mislat. "NATO are liars. They are siding with Gaddafi."
A NATO air attack has hit a Libyan rebel position near the eastern oil town of Brega, killing at least five fighters, according to rebel fighters and a hospital worker.
Libyan rebels hit by NATO air attack - Africa - Al Jazeera English
Rebels blame NATO for Libya air strike; five dead
Rebels blame NATO for Libya air strike; five dead | Top News | Reuters
Second such incident in less than a week leaves five fighters dead, in country's eastern oil town of Brega.
"We were standing by our tanks and NATO fired two rockets at us," said one, Salem Mislat. "NATO are liars. They are siding with Gaddafi."
A NATO air attack has hit a Libyan rebel position near the eastern oil town of Brega, killing at least five fighters, according to rebel fighters and a hospital worker.
Libyan rebels hit by NATO air attack - Africa - Al Jazeera English
Rebels blame NATO for Libya air strike; five dead
Rebels blame NATO for Libya air strike; five dead | Top News | Reuters
Askari Kanzu
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US on guard for terror attacks from Libya: FBI chief
From ANI
Washington, Apr 7(ANI): The United States is "on guard" for terrorist attacks "emanating" out of war-torn Libya, FBI Director Robert Mueller has said.
The assessment came a day after the FBI confirmed that it was contacting Libyan nationals living in and visiting the US in an effort to "determine whether there is a threat to Americans".
Mueller, testifying before the House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies, said that the US is also prepared for Libyan operatives who "may well" be in the country after crossing the Mexico or Canada border.
"We also want to make certain that we are on guard [for] the possibility of terrorist attacks emanating somewhere out of Libya, whether it be Gaddafi's forces or, in eastern Libya, the opposition forces who may have amongst them persons who in the past have had associations with terrorist groups," Fox News quoted Mueller, as saying.
He also noted that "there may be intelligence officers that are operating with different types of cover in the US."
"We want to make certain that we've identified these individuals to ensure no harm comes from them, knowing they may well have been associated with the Gaddafi regime," he added.
From ANI
Washington, Apr 7(ANI): The United States is "on guard" for terrorist attacks "emanating" out of war-torn Libya, FBI Director Robert Mueller has said.
The assessment came a day after the FBI confirmed that it was contacting Libyan nationals living in and visiting the US in an effort to "determine whether there is a threat to Americans".
Mueller, testifying before the House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies, said that the US is also prepared for Libyan operatives who "may well" be in the country after crossing the Mexico or Canada border.
"We also want to make certain that we are on guard [for] the possibility of terrorist attacks emanating somewhere out of Libya, whether it be Gaddafi's forces or, in eastern Libya, the opposition forces who may have amongst them persons who in the past have had associations with terrorist groups," Fox News quoted Mueller, as saying.
He also noted that "there may be intelligence officers that are operating with different types of cover in the US."
"We want to make certain that we've identified these individuals to ensure no harm comes from them, knowing they may well have been associated with the Gaddafi regime," he added.
Libyan Rebel Council Forms Oil Company to Replace Qaddafi's
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-21/libyan-rebel-council-sets-up-oil-company-to-replace-qaddafi-s.html
Libyan Rebels Have Already Established New Central Bank Of Libya
http://www.firetown.com/blog/2011/03/30/libyan-rebels-have-already-established-new-central-bank-of-libya/
France's Juppe says political solution key for Libya
"In this very indecisive context, it is more necessary than ever to look for a political solution and that is what we are working on today," he told a Senate hearing.
France's Juppe says political solution key for Libya | Top News | Reuters
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-21/libyan-rebel-council-sets-up-oil-company-to-replace-qaddafi-s.html
Libyan Rebels Have Already Established New Central Bank Of Libya
http://www.firetown.com/blog/2011/03/30/libyan-rebels-have-already-established-new-central-bank-of-libya/
France's Juppe says political solution key for Libya
"In this very indecisive context, it is more necessary than ever to look for a political solution and that is what we are working on today," he told a Senate hearing.
France's Juppe says political solution key for Libya | Top News | Reuters
Libya debt
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/economics/list-of-national-debt-by-country/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/wow-that-was-fast-libyan-rebels-have-already-established-a-new-central-bank-of-libya
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/economics/list-of-national-debt-by-country/
Wow That Was Fast! Libyan Rebels Have Already Established A New Central Bank Of Libya
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/wow-that-was-fast-libyan-rebels-have-already-established-a-new-central-bank-of-libya
NICK2275
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thats why i said "SOMETIMES" source is necessary-NOT ALWAYS
And i didnt mention any western source
Niku toe wasiwasi ndugu yangu mimi ni mkristo kama wewe lakini mkristo kiimani si kidini. Mimi sina dini wala siamini katika yoyote ile japo kuwa naamini katika kristo na nguvu zake na pia naamini alitoa zawadi ya wokovu kwa binadamu wote bila kujali dini, dhehebu ama race kwahiyo kila anayeliitia jina la Yesu kwa kujua au kutokujua anaokolewa. Hilo ni kuhusu imani.
Kuhusu udictator wa Yesu naomba ni kwambie kabisa sioni tofauti kati ya Yesu na Ghadaffi kama wote wanasimamia katika lile wanaloamini tofauti na dunia inavyoamini. Yesu katika dhambi alisimama peke yake japo kuwa dunia yote ilikubali kuishi katika dhambi je hapo alifuata democrasia au ukweli aliouamini yeye? Alikuwa tayari kufa kwajili yakukataa mawazo ya mafarisayo na masadukayo ambao ndiyo walikuwa wabeba maono ya viongozi wa wakati ule katika taifa la Israel je hapo alikuwa mwana demokrasia? Sasa hapo utamtofautishaje Yesu na Ghadaffi? Hofu yako ya identity ya ukristo ndiyo inayopelekea wewe kumwona Ghadaffi aonekane vile hao wanaotaka kum demonize aonekane huku wao ndiyo wakiwa wapinga hiyo demokrasia wakwanza inapokuja kwenye issue ya ukweli wanaouamini. Kwani hao ndiyo wenye kura ya veto huko UN au na hiyo utaiita demokrasia kwakuwa amesema mzungu?
Kwaufupi ni kuwa ugomvi kati ya Ghadaffi and rivals ni due to selfishnes ya kila upande huku wakitumia mwavuli wa demokrasia na dini kujificha ndani yake ili mvua ya lawama zisiwafikie. Hiyo mimi kama mkristo tena mhubiri wa habari njema ya kristo nisipolisema ole ni kwangu maana nashiriki laana hiyo ambayo the authour of all this is the prince of this world the Devil in the name of diplomacy; is a sin and actually an abomination to our good and loving God who is not respector of persons. Mataifa hayo hayasemi wazi lakini wanajua Ghadaffi anasaidia uislamu so kwao hiyo ni worry kubwa lakini wamewatoa mamilioni ya wa Libya kama kafara ku serve selfish desire yao tena kwakutumia sababu za uwongo. Kama wana mwamini Mungu kwanini wasiamini kuwa anauwezo wa kuwalinda hata pasipo kuwafanyia wenzao uovu? Kwanini wasiamini katika nguvu na uwezo waroho mtakatifu katika kuwaleta watu katika mwanga na kuamua kutumia silaha za damu na nyama? Kama babu wa loliondo ameweza kuvuta maelfu na maelfu ya dini zote kwa imani ya kikombe si zaidi kama wangemtumia roho mtakatifu kuleta tumaini jipya duniani nakuleta ustaarabu kwa wote duniani? Huo ukristo wako uko wapi wewe kama unataka kuushinda ubaya kwa ubaya na wala si ubaya kwa wema? Utaona kuwa hakuna ukristo hapo ni selfishness kwakwenda mbele japo sababu za ndani ya mioyo yao ndiyo hiyo pamoja na malighafi za dunia ya walala puuh japo kuwa hawatakwambia hizo na watakuja kwa jina la diplomacy. The devil is a liar!
The minute western Governments started freezing Gaddafi billions reportedly (60 Billions) two weeks ago the fate of Libya was sealed.
The four leading partners in this collation France , UK, Canada & the USA had no intention of ever returning these frozen funds to the people of Libya.
In a crafty move last week in Paris Sarkozy meet with the leader of the Libyan opposition and promise to help them overthrow Gaddafi I am sure document were signed that will lumber Libya with the bill for this military action.
Since the west already has 60 old billion dollars of Gaddafi money they are in a good position to start spending it on this conflict.
The Arms Industry big boys are rubbing their hands with glee at the money that will be made at the cost of more Arab blood but the game they are in human life is just a by product.
Once they have destroyed Libya and all its military hardware they will just sell the next Libyan leader new Arms in exchange for Oil and this is win,win for the Arms Industry.
That is why the poor countries like Zimbabwe, Somalia, Yemen, and many other are just ignored by the world.
No money to be made so let them kill each other nice world Leaders we have looking after our fate in life.
Libya just follow the money, why the west attacked, page 1
The four leading partners in this collation France , UK, Canada & the USA had no intention of ever returning these frozen funds to the people of Libya.
In a crafty move last week in Paris Sarkozy meet with the leader of the Libyan opposition and promise to help them overthrow Gaddafi I am sure document were signed that will lumber Libya with the bill for this military action.
Since the west already has 60 old billion dollars of Gaddafi money they are in a good position to start spending it on this conflict.
The Arms Industry big boys are rubbing their hands with glee at the money that will be made at the cost of more Arab blood but the game they are in human life is just a by product.
Once they have destroyed Libya and all its military hardware they will just sell the next Libyan leader new Arms in exchange for Oil and this is win,win for the Arms Industry.
That is why the poor countries like Zimbabwe, Somalia, Yemen, and many other are just ignored by the world.
No money to be made so let them kill each other nice world Leaders we have looking after our fate in life.
Libya just follow the money, why the west attacked, page 1
I don't query or doubt Gadafi's contribution to humanity, especially the Moslem community and his own people. My concern is not Gadaffi...in fact I do not like America's intervention in the whole affair as I know just as you know that they are there for their own interests...OIL. My concern is equating Jesus (who is God) with Gadafii, a mere human like me and you...how can we rate him to be on the same level with God? That is where you have erred ndugu yangu....Yes Gadaffi might have done good deeds, just like you and me, but does that equate us with the MOST Holy God? Think about it
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Tatizo kubwa kwenye thread yako sio kuwa hakuweka source kama wachangiaji walivyomhoji bali hujui kabsa Walibya wanapigania nini. They are not fighting for a slice of bread for God sake. Why can't people even make simple research about the conflict? You will have all you listed but if you don't have freedom, then they become irrelevant. Wao wanachodai ni uhuru. Just that. Why you didn't inlude freedom on the list?
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Sikatai kwamba: What you are saying might be true... In fact; all of it might be true.
Lakini tujiulize pia: Pamoja na hayo yote, kwanini kumekuwa na "protests" kubwa kiasi kile...
On my opinion, nafikiri: pamoja na huduma zote hizo, it still wasn't enough compared to their national income. Na hapo, bado sijaongelea suala zima la demokrasia...
Halafu, shida ni kwamba: Watu tunavyoangalia mambo yanayotokea Libya, tunasahau ya hapa kwetu. Hivi nikuulize: Hali unayoiona Tanzania ni shwari??? Ni wazi kuwa si shwari... kiasi kwamba "only a spark" would lead to protests! Lakini, unafahamu kwamba; watu wa nchi nyingine wanamwona rais wetu kama malaika! Je! Nikuulize wewe: Unamwona rais wetu kama malaika???
Hivyo hivyo: Wewe unamwona Ghadafi kama malaika, lakini sivyo wanavyomwona wananchi wake...
Sikatai kwamba; nchi zinazomshambulia, zinaweza zikawa na "ajenda za siri"... lakini, tusifike mahali pa kumwona Ghadafi kama malaika!!!
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Tatizo kubwa la jamaa aliyeweka hiyo thread sio kuwa hakuweka source kama wachangiaji walivyomhoji bali hujui kabsa Walibya wanapigania nini. They are not not fighting for a slice of bread for God sake. Why cant people even make simple research about the conflict? You will have all listed in the that thread but if you don't have freedom, then they become irrelevant. Wao wanachodai ni uhuru. Just that.
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I see. Ndio maana anavunja misikiti kama inavyoonekana kwenye hii video. Also see more: http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE73420L20110405
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Rebel mosque demolished in restive Libyan city
Government forces have razed a mosque formerly used by rebels as a command centre in a western Libyan city, stepping up efforts to eradicate symbols of resistance against leader Muammar Gaddafi. Rebel forces held Zawiyah for several weeks after an anti-Gaddafi uprising erupted in Libya in mid-February but were defeated on March 10 after a series of fierce battles.
The coastal town about 50 km (30 miles) west of Tripoli is now firmly under state control, with Gaddafi flags flapping in the sea breeze and streets patrolled by state militiamen. But the mosque's demolition has distressed some locals. "People are upset," said Mohammad, a shop owner. "How can you remove a mosque in a central square just like that? It's a Muslim country."
The white stone building with a towering minaret -- also used by rebels as a field hospital -- was knocked down a week ago and bulldozed into a flat patch of sandy land. A nearby makeshift graveyard in the central square where rebels buried their dead has also been flattened.
When Reuters correspondents visited Zawiyah on March 5, the cemetery contained about 20 graves. The mosque, a rallying point where rebel fighters came to pray, plan and rest, was also then intact, blaring anti-Gaddafi messages through a loudspeaker. "The government demolished it because there was a lot of filth inside," said Abulqassim Omar, a local resident.
The government took reporters to Zawiyah on Tuesday to show the city was under its control. A few dozen Gaddafi supporters waved flags and shouted slogans in the central square. Official minders confirmed the mosque had been demolished by the government but there was no official comment.
The city is now a world apart. Under rebel control, ordinary civilians were openly anti-Gaddafi and opposition flags flew from many buildings. Rebels interviewed by Reuters said they wanted to oust Gaddafi and call free and fair elections. Almost everyone interviewed on Tuesday echoed the official line, partly because government minders kept a close eye on contacts between local residents and visiting journalists.
One man, standing outside his shop, chose a moment when they were not looking to paint a darker picture of life in the city. "Don't you see how tightly controlled we are now. Government spies have us surrounded in this city and we are scared to talk," he said. "Those were revolutionaries and civilians that they killed, they were not gangs or al-Qaeda."
Describing scenes of fighting, he added: "The armed forces would use tanks and spray the buildings with the bullets without a clear target, they would spray the buildings. ... But we can't talk, all of Zawiyah is gone, either escaped or arrested." All around, ruined facades were decorated with Gaddafi portraits. With houses gutted and walls pockmarked with bullet holes, the city was subdued and most shops were boarded up.
Graffiti saying "Get out dictator" was still seen through the green paint used to cover it. Fences were plastered with statements from the Green Book -- Gaddafi's political manifesto. Some were visibly upset. An old man stopped in the central square, shaking his head as he looked at a crowd of Gaddafi supporters dancing near a place where the mosque used to stand. "It will never be the same," he said. "Why are they so happy? I don't know."
Rebel mosque demolished in restive Libyan city | Energy & Oil | Reuters
Government forces have razed a mosque formerly used by rebels as a command centre in a western Libyan city, stepping up efforts to eradicate symbols of resistance against leader Muammar Gaddafi. Rebel forces held Zawiyah for several weeks after an anti-Gaddafi uprising erupted in Libya in mid-February but were defeated on March 10 after a series of fierce battles.
The coastal town about 50 km (30 miles) west of Tripoli is now firmly under state control, with Gaddafi flags flapping in the sea breeze and streets patrolled by state militiamen. But the mosque's demolition has distressed some locals. "People are upset," said Mohammad, a shop owner. "How can you remove a mosque in a central square just like that? It's a Muslim country."
The white stone building with a towering minaret -- also used by rebels as a field hospital -- was knocked down a week ago and bulldozed into a flat patch of sandy land. A nearby makeshift graveyard in the central square where rebels buried their dead has also been flattened.
When Reuters correspondents visited Zawiyah on March 5, the cemetery contained about 20 graves. The mosque, a rallying point where rebel fighters came to pray, plan and rest, was also then intact, blaring anti-Gaddafi messages through a loudspeaker. "The government demolished it because there was a lot of filth inside," said Abulqassim Omar, a local resident.
The government took reporters to Zawiyah on Tuesday to show the city was under its control. A few dozen Gaddafi supporters waved flags and shouted slogans in the central square. Official minders confirmed the mosque had been demolished by the government but there was no official comment.
The city is now a world apart. Under rebel control, ordinary civilians were openly anti-Gaddafi and opposition flags flew from many buildings. Rebels interviewed by Reuters said they wanted to oust Gaddafi and call free and fair elections. Almost everyone interviewed on Tuesday echoed the official line, partly because government minders kept a close eye on contacts between local residents and visiting journalists.
One man, standing outside his shop, chose a moment when they were not looking to paint a darker picture of life in the city. "Don't you see how tightly controlled we are now. Government spies have us surrounded in this city and we are scared to talk," he said. "Those were revolutionaries and civilians that they killed, they were not gangs or al-Qaeda."
Describing scenes of fighting, he added: "The armed forces would use tanks and spray the buildings with the bullets without a clear target, they would spray the buildings. ... But we can't talk, all of Zawiyah is gone, either escaped or arrested." All around, ruined facades were decorated with Gaddafi portraits. With houses gutted and walls pockmarked with bullet holes, the city was subdued and most shops were boarded up.
Graffiti saying "Get out dictator" was still seen through the green paint used to cover it. Fences were plastered with statements from the Green Book -- Gaddafi's political manifesto. Some were visibly upset. An old man stopped in the central square, shaking his head as he looked at a crowd of Gaddafi supporters dancing near a place where the mosque used to stand. "It will never be the same," he said. "Why are they so happy? I don't know."
Rebel mosque demolished in restive Libyan city | Energy & Oil | Reuters
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