The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi

[Gamba la Nyoka]

kwahiyo unamaanisha haujali kuuwawa kwa watanzania wakati wa vita vya uganda?

Ina maana unafurahia gadaffi alishiriki kuuwa watanzania, kwahiyo hauna uzalendo? Au uzalendo wako uko libya? Ina maana ni bora kuuliwa sisi kuliko kuuwawa hao walibya?

Behold our beloved nation; if nationality is consent, the state is compulsion.

mkuu inabidi usapoti upande kulingana na convenience na kile unachokisimamia, mathalani mmarekani alisaidiwa na ufaransa kumn'goa mwingereza ili kupata uhuru, lakini mmarekani huyo huyo hakusita kumsaidia mwingereza adui yake wa zamani pindi mwingereza alipokuwa amezidiwa na majeshi ya ujerumani kwenye vita ya pili ya dunia.

Mwingereza, ufaransa na israel walivamia misri mwaka 1956 ili kuuteka mfereji wa suez uliokuwa umetaifishwa na gamal abdel nasser, mmarekani na soviet wakaungana kwa mara ya kwanza kukemea kitendo hicho cha mwingereza japo mmarekani na soviet walikuwa mahasimu wakubwa.

Leo hii mwingereza, mmarekani na mwingereza wameungana katika vita isiyo ya haki kabisa kumpiga member mwenzetu wa au, kwa kutumia kisingizio cha uwongo kabisa, lakini wewe unakumbushia bifu za mwaka 1979, fungua macho uone, ishu siyo ghadafi, ishu ni recolonization ya afrika kwa kuitandika nchi iliyokuwa kimbelembele kuunganisha nguvu za waafrika kujitegemea, wewe unafikir "africa monetary fund" nani alikuwa atoe share kubwa kuliko wengine?, wewe unafikiri eti kwa kuwa wamemuondoa ghadafi na biashara imeishia hapo?, vipi kuhusu makampuni yao ya mafuta kusign mikataba kama ya mangungo wa msovero kwa kupitia viongozi vibaraka watakaowapandikiza?.

 

[Wambandwa]

Nawashngaa it is as if hamjui ulongo ulikubuhu wa Media za magahribi na hawa Freemasons akina Obama,,,,, .... WAZUNGU NI MAMBWA watu wabaya sana kuliko ukimwi!!!<br />
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Ndio wamefani...

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Somoche, enlight me on one thing: what does 'freemanson' mean as far as this thread is concerned?
Unless you're a Libyan you'ren't otherwise entertained kuwashwa na pilipili usizokula.

 

[Rutashubanyuma]

pole sana kwa walibya wote................................tuko sote kwenye haya majonzi........................you will not be forsaken nor abandoned by your African comrades..................................In God we trust for everything...............

 

[Somoche]

Sio kila kitu lazima uspin. In fact huwezi kuspin kila kitu ndugu. At least picha hizo zinasema ujumbe fulani[/QUOTE

Why should i spin?!! actually they cannot change my mind as of now just for showing mere photos!!! hawa sio kabisa their DOGS tafuta kitabu kinaitwa The Truth about America uone mpango wa kuivamia Libya ulipangwa mwaka 1990 kwa mara ya kwanza na sasa hii ilifika mda na waliopanga utawajua humo wote..mimi siungi mkono ghadaaff kuua lakini lazima tujue kwanza sisi ni Waafrika na Libya iko Afrika na ilikua ni nzuri na nafuu mara mia kuliko hao wanywa damu wa Ulaya na Us...wamekunywa damu za watu 70000 kwa mda wa miezi sita hiyo na bado angalia Iraq na Afghanistan!!!

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Ushahidi wa undumilakuwili waanza kufichuka

-On the floor of the intelligence chief's office lay an envelope addressed to Gaddafi's son Saif Al-Islam. Inside, I found what appears to be a summary of a conversation between US congressman Denis Kucinich, who publicly opposed US policy on Libya, and an intermediary for the Libyan leader's son.

Secret files: US officials aided Gaddafi
Al Jazeera uncovers evidence that influential Americans tried to help the now-deposed Libyan leader cling to power.

Jamal Elshayyal Last Modified: 31 Aug 2011 16:39

The destruction by NATO airstrikes of Libya's intelligence headquarters at the heart of Tripoli has transformed the once-feared building into a symbol of how Gaddafi's regime has been all but toppled.

Guarding the compound are dozens of armed rebel fighters, some of them told me their friends and families went missing as a direct result of "intelligence" gathered by those who worked in the building.

It's fair to assume that among the rubble and ransacked offices, are some of the darkest, deepest secrets of Gaddafi's regime. I'm looking for files entitled "Lockerbie" or "IRA", but the place is a mess.

I'm taken to the office of Abdullah Alsinnousi, head of Libya's intelligence service and one of the Gaddafi regime's most notorious and feared strong men.

Scattered on his desk are dozens of documents branded "top secret", but the rebels accompanying me aren't keen on me taking anything away. I find a folder titled "Moussa Alsadr", who was the former head of Hezbollah who went missing in Libya over 30 years ago. Within seconds, the folder is taken by my minder who said none of these documents can leave the compound.

Full story + video (Al Jazeera)

 

[Kibona]

Sio kila kitu lazima uspin. In fact huwezi kuspin kila kitu ndugu. At least picha hizo zinasema ujumbe fulani[/QUOTE&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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Why should i spin?!! actually they cannot change my mind as of now just for showing mere photos!!! hawa sio kabisa their DOGS tafuta kitabu kinaitwa The Truth about America uone mpango wa kuivamia Libya ulipangwa mwaka 1990 kwa mara ya kwanza na sasa hii ilifika mda na waliopanga utawajua humo wote..mimi siungi mkono ghadaaff kuua lakini lazima tujue kwanza sisi ni Waafrika na Libya iko Afrika na ilikua ni nzuri na nafuu mara mia kuliko hao wanywa damu wa Ulaya na Us...wamekunywa damu za watu 70000 kwa mda wa miezi sita hiyo na bado angalia Iraq na Afghanistan!!!

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Sijasoma hicho kitabu lakini kitabu ni mawazo ya mwandishi kama ambavyo hata wewe unaweza ukawa na mawazo yako. kwahiyo kitabu hakiwezi kikatumika kuonyesha kuwa maandamano yote yaliyofanyika na yanayoendelea kufanyika ktk nchi za kiarabu yanasukumwa na marekani. Pia hata kama kuna mkono wa wazungu basi lazima ukubali kuwa wazungu wanatumia udhaifu wa viongozi wa kiafrika kujisahau na kukandamiza haki na hisia za raia wao. Kwahiyo inapotokea mambo kama hayo viongozi wa kiafrika ndio chanzo.<br />
Kama watu wanapinga kuwa hiyo habari ya huyo dada inawezakuwa na ukweli basi ni kwasababu tu ya ushabiki kwa gaddafi na chuki dhidi ya ubeberu. Mie nadhani tuuchukie ubeberu lakini tuangalie tusiwe vipofu wa kutambua udhaifu wetu na hivyo kutumiwa na viongozi wanotumia wimbo wa mabeberu kulinda maslahi yao ya kiutawala kama vile Gaddafi, Mugabe, Museven na vikundi kama vile ANC na CCM.

 

[Azimio Jipya]

"she had to shoot under great duress" .... What a horrific story!!!

 

[X-PASTER]

Al-Qaeda and NATO's Islamic Extremists Taking Over Libya
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One terror leader in particular, Abdelhakim Belhaj, made headlines around the world over the weekend after it emerged that he was appointed the chief of Tripoli's rebel Military Council. Prior to leading rebel forces against Gaddafi's regime, Belhaj was the founder and leader of the notorious Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG).

Eventually the terror "Emir," as he has been called, was arrested and tortured as an American prisoner in the terror war. In 2004, according to reports, he was transferred to the Gaddafi regime - then a U.S. terror-war ally... Click here to read More

 

[X-PASTER]

Al-Qaeda and NATO's Islamic Extremists Taking Over Libya
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One terror leader in particular, Abdelhakim Belhaj, made headlines around the world over the weekend after it emerged that he was appointed the chief of Tripoli's rebel Military Council. Prior to leading rebel forces against Gaddafi's regime, Belhaj was the founder and leader of the notorious Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG).

Eventually the terror "Emir," as he has been called, was arrested and tortured as an American prisoner in the terror war. In 2004, according to reports, he was transferred to the Gaddafi regime - then a U.S. terror-war ally... Click here to read More

 

[HT]

Hakuna Visasi, Tanzania miaka yote tulikuwa nchi inayo support equal rights to all of its people, freedom of speech and expression
Tanzania tulikuwa mstari wa mbele kusema kuwa kama udhalilishaji wa wananchi wake; Sasa hivi serikali yatu na baadhi ya wananchi wetu
Tumesahau Uzalendo kama wewe, umeshidwa kufanya uchunguzi wako mwenyewe kufuatilia ni kwanini Gadaffi anawatumia wanae kwenye
Madaraka? Kwanini hao watoto wana Majumba makubwa na Mazuri? Ni kwanini hao watoto ndio wanaotoa maamuzi ya kimadaraka Libya?
Tumedanganywa na Pesa zake yeye Mwenyewe ameshindwa kuwatekelezea wananchi wake matakwa yao, hakuna Demokrasia
Kwanini tumkumbatie Mtu anayependa kumwaga Damu? Alishiriki Vita Vya Liberia, Vita vya Chad, Vita vya Bokina Fasso
* Sasa ni wananchi wa Libya waliosimama kumpinga huyu Kichaa, Sasa Angalia Picha inaonyesha furaha ya wananchi, hauwezi kufikiria kuwa Gadaffi
Hakuwafaa wananchi wake? Au Umeamua kufumba Macho, Dolla $$ tunazopewa na yeye ni tamu sana?

tulikuwa, tulikuwa.... Leo tupoje? Btw, unadhani hizi sababu ulizotoa zina justify walichofanya Nato na maharamia wao Libya?
Halafu pesa za Ghaddafi unadhani kila mtu anazitaka? Ghaddafi ni moja kati ya watu wasioupenda Ukristo, na mimi kama mkristo najua alivyofanya...lakini haya yote hayatoi justification kwa upuuzi wa Nato na maharamia wao, aka waasi.
Think twice, achana na emotions na mkumbo!

 

[3squere]

Hii familia ina deserve kuwa navyo hivi vitu kwani wamekuwa madarakani zaidi ya miaka hamsini hivyo haishangazi....wapo viongozi bongo wana zaidi ya hicho tunacho ona hapo na wameapata madaraka miaka na tisini na sita &quot;1996 kuja 2009.<br />
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pamoja na udikteta na Ufisadi uwezi linganisha Libya na Bongo, pia alikuwa alama ya umoja na mkongwe Afrika aliyepanika kuifanya afrika kuwa moja, kitu ambacho ni adimu kwa viongozi wa kiarabu<br />
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NENDA GADDAFI ILA WEWE NI MWAMBA...

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[Askari Kanzu]

Kazi ipo. Huyu jamaa hakubali kubwaga manyanga hadi kieleweke!

31 August 2011 Last updated at 20:15 GMT
Libya conflict: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi vows resistance

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi is the most prominent of Muammar Gaddafi's sons

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, one of fugitive Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's sons, has vowed to carry on fighting. In an audio message broadcast on Al-Ray TV, he said his father was fine and the Libyan leadership was fine. He said he was speaking from the outskirts of Tripoli.

The message came minutes after his brother, Saadi, said he had been authorised to negotiate with the National Transitional Council (NTC) to end the fighting in Libya. Libya's interim leaders have made it clear they are not interested in negotiating.

Anti-Gaddafi commanders say they are moving to encircle the city of Sirte, Col Gaddafi's birthplace and one of the few areas of Libya still under the control of Gaddafi loyalists.

But in his message, Saif al-Islam warned against any such attack, saying there were 20,000 armed people ready to defend it.

Saif al-Islam told al-Ray, a Damascus-based station, that he was "speaking from the Tripoli area".

"I would like to assure our brother Libyans everywhere," he said, adding that he had walked through areas of Tripoli on Wednesday afternoon.

"We will soon come to the Green Square to salute you, God willing," he said.

Tripoli's Green Square was renamed Martyrs' Square after rebels entered the capital and overran the Gaddafi compound at Bab al-Aziziya last week.

"The resistance continues and victory is near," Saif al-Islam said.

- BBC

 

[Dark City]

Haya bwana,

Hata Sadam aliendelea kusema hivyo hivyo kupitia kwa yule waziri wake ambaye alikuwa bingwa wa kuropoka. Bora wangekubali yaishe ili waache kuendeleza mauaji ya watu wasio na hatia!!

 

[RAJ PATEL JR]

No more comments. No more of my postings in JF.
Everytime I do so the Mod. has been taking the threads away!
I'll remain just a spectator
Thanks

 

[Chimunguru]

tehetehe mfa maji haishi kutapatapa, ni bora atafuta kwa kukimbilia na kujificha na si kuendelea kubwatabwata

 

[Bei Mbaya]

Baraza la usalama la Umoja wa Mataifa limetoa pendekezo la kupelekwa jeshi la kulinda amani kwa kipindi cha mpito

'wahuni' wa Benghazi wapinga vikali pendekezo hilo

kwa vyovyote lazima mzungu aingie pale kuchukua kandarasi,mafuta na propaganda za kuweka kibaraka wao

 

[King’asti]

kikwete hana jeuri hii. mswahili wa watu anafurahia kupanda ndege, nguo na chakula!
jamaa ni noma, walau wananchi wake hawana umaskini uliopindukia kama sie siafu wa jk!

hahahaa, the same applied to Kikwete.

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[Askari Kanzu]

tehetehe mfa maji haishi kutapatapa, ni bora atafuta kwa kukimbilia na kujificha na si kuendelea kubwatabwata

Nadhani ana uchungu wa kupoteza mihela yote aliyojilimbikizia. Ndio madhara ya kuadhirikia na kusalitiwa hayo!

 

[Nditu]

Open the gate to your mind bro!
Red: The 1978/79 Kagera war, it is Mwalimu to blame broda. It was Tanzania that started poking Amin, and again the first bullet fired was Tanzanian. Do some research, do not wait for the story to be narrated to you by the story teller who tells what your ear is supposed to hear.
Bluu: Over 30yrs post TZ-Uganda war you still really, consciously think the culprit to every Tanzanian misery ni vita?
Gimme a break.

Sigma, are you sure of what you are claiming? How old and where was you at the time the war broke. I was there when Amin invaded Kagera and witnessed his troops being cheered by the people of that area who defied calls by the few TPDF soldiers who urged them to flee to the other side of the Kagera river, only to be brutally killed by the very troops they were cheering after the troops went and sealed the Kagera bridge gateaway. And I was among the few soldiers who attempted hopelessly to stop a large invasion troop that invaded our territory and and I can tell the name of the first Tanzanian combatant who was killed by Amin's soldiers. Yes, Nyerere formally refused to recognize Iddi Amin Regime but to say that it was the Tanzanian Army (the TPDF) that fired the first bullet is utterly lies. To be candid the TPDF soldiers were not in a position of firing the trigger first as they were very few in number (A Company or less if you can understand the military language) compared to Amin's Brigade or so that was just across the border at Mutukula. I was among the small contingent that was placed at Kabweba from the then 10Bn that had its base in Old Shinyanga. More than half of the Batallion members were sent to Mozambique to assist liberation war then under the demised one Colonel Mbuta. This further testifies Nyerere's underestimation of Iddi Amin's motives to one day dare invade Tanzania and the fact that Nyerere did not immobilize any troops for Kagera. Sigma, your challenging your peer to do research and not to pick stories narrated by others; tell us when and how did you conduct your research? I bet you were not in that war and that you are, yourself a victim of picking the stories narrated by others to fulfil their devilish objectives.
As of the economic woes that followed thereafter, I concur with your opponent that, that war brought economic meltdown that forced Mwalimu to abdicate powers five years later. I can tell for sure that before that war Tanzania's economy was better off than any country in East Africa. Before that war Tanzania boasted of trully free education, free medical services at all levels and an illiteracy rate of over 70%.
Again let me put history right. It was not Nyerere's intention to dislodge Amin as many people are now made to believe. The fact is that as Tanzania intended to punish Amin's troops and make sure that it had destroyed Iddi Amin's military infrastructure near our borders, another problem emerged; that was thousands of displaced Uganda citizens who feared Amin's retaliation should the Tanzanian troops withdraw. The vowed to follow the Tanzanian troops to Tanzania as refugees rather than remain there to be butchered by the Amin's brutal soldiers. I believe this was the major reason why Nyerere decided to proceed to Kampala and remove that tyrant form power. Again for those who are just told wrong stories about the war, let me put it right here that during that war we encountered stiff challenges from the Libyan and Palestinian forces that were however overrun by our gallantry forces. I understand we had many captives besides scores of that pro Amin invasion soldiers that died during combat. I heard that Nyerere released them unconditionally to their respective countries despite the fact of Libya's readiness to pay "compensation" for them.

 

[kichwat]

Nimechanganyikiwa kidogo na 'ukali' wa ikulu ya Libya. Inaelekea na wao huwa wanatumia mabilioni kukarabati ikulu kila mwaka, kama Tz.
Tatizo la Libya ni moja tu ...fedha zote zilizopangwa zinatumika kukarabati ikulu (don't ask...)