The so called 'GOD' from religions

The so called 'GOD' from religions

Kuziwa said:
May the almighty living GOD forgive you for you you are unaware of your ignorance! GOD has given you that little brain yet you think more human, GOD is real existing! all the believers will see him and given another chance to live with him in heven, repent, for the end of day is coming and never let this prophecy be upon you.
TO GOD BE THE GLORY AMEN
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AMEN!
 
Mish Albert said:
Does causation is dependent only in time?Does time cause anything to happen?absolutely No!
As you can see,time is not entailed in producing the effect,in other word,time has no place in causal-equation
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Did you seriously wrote that!!,you can't be serious for sure!!How do you even define TIME?in other words,you are saying TIME is static?,if time cause nothing to happen then in other words you are trying to say ,"you didn't exist in the past,your not here presently neither you will be in the future'!seriously?
Time is incidental but not essential
we can have causation without time

So absence of time before the universe,doesnot exclude the possibility that universe had a cause also.therefore the conclusion[3] is also wrong!
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so you agree that the time started with the universe?, then you agree Hawking’s core argument.
 
Arduino Sentinel said:
Did you seriously wrote that!!,you can't be serious for sure!!How do you even define TIME?in other words,you are saying TIME is static?cause nothing to happen then in other words you are trying to say ,"you didn't exist in the past,your not here presently neither seriously?
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Man,you've just misinterpreted my argument.time isn't static but it's not essential property of causality,thus why I said time is incidental.
Our common sense often prevent us from imagining things differently.
Inside the box,One can say,"the time is deeply linked with causation,so you can't have causation without time"

Outside the box,while it difficult to imagine causal structure without time,but somewhere along the line we can have causal structure without time.
Arduino Sentinel said:
so you agree that the time started with the universe?, then you agree Hawking’s core argument.
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If time is never static,why it had a beginning
you mean there was a moment when time was absolutely stand still?[t=0]
 
Mish Albert said:
If time is never static,why it had a beginning
you mean there was a moment when time was absolutely stand still?[t=0]
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And there comes 'Nothing' concept,i think you didn't understand it,just take your time read those two post,the answer you will get its very clear.

Actually time and and universe co-exists,you don't have to be a believer to understand that,only basic idea about physics motion
 
mshana jr said:
Dearth is just a process of dwelling the soul into another realm in the vast galaxy, so in the matter of fact I don't fear death..Dearth to me is another step forward to the true nature of inner me n that super energy of God-state
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Why many believers are not ready to face their own Mortality?
I think the notion of Here-after is the key selling point of all kind of religions,from Christianity to Islamic faith
After all,there is no such thing as After life,the moment you die,you cease to exist.That all
Just accept death,is part our existence.Stop clinging into fairy tale inorder to gain comfort.
 
einstein newton said:
Why many believers are not ready to face their own Mortality?
I think the notion of Here-after is the key selling point of all kind of religions,from Christianity to Islamic faith
After all,there is no such thing as After life,the moment you die,you cease to exist.That all
Just accept death,is part our existence.Stop clinging into fairy tale inorder to gain comfort.
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Eistein newton do you know that once soul is created never ceases to exist? That means there is no what we call DEATH in the soul?
 
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Arduino Sentinel said:
i think you wrote this special for yourself.

Yes!In your thought,actually,i dont live inside your thought,keep him for youself.

what is heaven?i am afraid it doesnt exist in the universe,but only in some people's minds

its already a new day,actually its 1:11am


it wont be,you said yourself its a prophecy
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revelation 7:9-16, you still have a chance to surrender yourself to GOD. you will one day write to me to declare the existence of GOD.
 
Kuziwa said:
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revelation 7:9-16, you still have a chance to surrender yourself to GOD. you will one day write to me to declare the existence of GOD.
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Mkuu usinitafutie ban tafadhali,kama huna facts za kupost kausha,utaonekana mwerevu zaidi kuliko hivi unavo onesha uJuha wako.
 
mshana jr said:
Eistein newton do you know that once soul is created never ceases to exist? That means there is no what we call DEATH in the soul?
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Here you're Bro
so you put your trust in Immortality of soul?
As far as we know,Science is only natural way we use to understand the world around us
But unfortunately,there is not concept of soul in scientific point of view.

Anyway,Philosophically,the soul is Immaterial,But you've said that Once a soul is created it won't cease to exist
I'm completely dumbfounded with this statement
If soul is immaterial,How then can it be created?
 
einstein newton said:
Here you're Bro
so you put your trust in Immortality of soul?
As far as we know,Science is only natural way we use to understand the world around us
But unfortunately,there is not concept of soul in scientific point of view.

Anyway,Philosophically,the soul is Immaterial,But you've said that Once a soul is created it won't cease to exist
I'm completely dumbfounded with this statement
If soul is immaterial,How then can it be created?
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That's where there is a crossroads between the two of us while I am more spiritually (which you don't agree) you're partly scientifically ....that's where we creates confusion
 
Kuziwa said:
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revelation 7:9-16, you still have a chance to surrender yourself to GOD. you will one day write to me to declare the existence of GOD.
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Do not exposing yourself as a fool,young man
Your argument suffer from flaw of Circular reference
We're not your fellow theists,we don't believe in bible as you do

So whenever you want to prove something,either existence of your imaginary god or whatever
Please use Logic or science,because non of us,disbelieve in either.but not Bible.this is General rule of any rational debate
 
mshana jr said:
That's where there is a crossroads between the two of us while I am more spiritually (which you don't agree) you're partly scientifically ....that's where we creates confusion
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So which do you think is the best way to end the so called confusion?
can we just agree to disagree easily like that?
I believe that,If pure logic and scientific consideration will be taken into account,one of us must be wrong

I,myself suggest Logic as fine solution for our confusion.can we start now?
 
einstein newton said:
So which do you think is the best way to end the so called confusion?
can we just agree to disagree easily like that?
I believe that,If pure logic and scientific consideration will be taken into account,one of us must be wrong

I,myself suggest Logic as fine solution for our confusion.can we start now?
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You have a point! But we have different opinions and different perception in one thing which is alright! I agree with you to come to a conclusion of agreeing to disagree...!!! But I may pick up some point from your comments which can fit my point of view
 
einstein newton said:
So which do you think is the best way to end the so called confusion?
can we just agree to disagree easily like that?
I believe that,If pure logic and scientific consideration will be taken into account,one of us must be wrong

I,myself suggest Logic as fine solution for our confusion.can we start now?
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You have a point! But we have different opinions and different perception in one thing which is alright! I agree with you to come to a conclusion of agreeing to disagree...!!! But I may pick up some point from your comments which can fit my point of view
 
einstein newton said:
So which do you think is the best way to end the so called confusion?
can we just agree to disagree easily like that?
I believe that,If pure logic and scientific consideration will be taken into account,one of us must be wrong

I,myself suggest Logic as fine solution for our confusion.can we start now?
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You have a point! But we have different opinions and different perception in one thing which is alright! I agree with you to come to a conclusion of agreeing to disagree...!!! But I may pick up some point from your comments which can fit my point of view
 
mshana jr said:
You have a point! But we have different opinions and different perception in one thing which is alright! I agree with you to come to a conclusion of agreeing to disagree...!!! But I may pick up some point from your comments which can fit my point of view
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Ok then,Let us agree to disagree so as to save our own Energy..!
 
What's the source of all that you see,or e.g take an example of a bean, what's the origin of it
 
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