This election is not about Lowassa, It is about us

Regarding Richmond, I'm just going to ask you five questions:

TAKUKURU reported that there was no element of corruption or any violation of policies and procedures of procurement with regards Richmond/Tanesco contract. What do say about that?

TAKUKURU report was BS, as their boss, Dr. Hosea, was one of those 'MTANDAO PLANTs'. Lowassa & Hosea are school mates and the former helped the later get into TAKUKURU top job. Hosea was therefore paying back favor to LOWASSA by blocking a legitimate corruption report in favor of a bogus alternative. The Bunge report condemned the act and demanded investigation/punishment for the TAKUKURU boss. He retaliated by trying to investigate wabunge's posho...remember that?

Unfortunately JK was too soft/friendly to Lowassa and decided to push the report under the carpet. Here is how it was reported by Dr. Mwakyembe:




Saed Kubenea said in Kyela that there were two Richmond reports, one indicating Kikwete as the mastermind and the other to sully Lowassa's name. What is your opinion?

Ignore Said Kubenea. He's just another 'Mganga Njaa'. Don't believe in anything he pretends to 'secretly' have knowledge of.



Mwakyembe said he didn't read the whole Richmond report for fear to dissolve the whole government, now in the rest of the report that was not read who is involved? Who is involved in that hidden part of the report?

The Richmond Report is online at Bunge and even at World Bank Website. Read it yourself. Utapeli & UFISADI wa LOWASSA is not a secret to anyone wishing to read.


Richmond to Dowans is like buying a stolen watch. Unless the owner decides to make a follow up, the buyer is basically not a thief. They used Dowans to clean up the scandal cos some money was already consumed.

Kikwete was an obstacle into getting a solution to this scandal. He was more concerned about helping his pal, Lowassa, survive the onslaught than becoming a respected and trusted president.
 

Individuals are the Mafisadis not parties as a whold. Obviously now have chosen to join CHADEMA, should we then call everyone in CHADEMA a fisadi? That will be unfair.

FISADI LOWASSA was mildly punished by all the prezs he worked for. Unfortunately, none took legal action, but am sure they all are in regret now, for not having done more to curb his ufisadi. The best that all of them eventually did was to fire him.

However, the CCM's Mwakyembe report managed to reveal the forceful nature by which the FISADI PAPA LOWASSA was using to push for the power contract to be given to the fictitious Richmond co.

Take your time and
read the REPORT and Their Maoni.
 
Hi Jacky-boy (lol), much as I resented this bullet-point by bullet-point rebuttals, I am still tempted to respond to you.

My editor is acting up so my responses will be in maroon color

These are hosts of stuffs, looks like you gave a little bit of thought before posting, Lets find out:

Here goes:


In politics JD there are no blacks or whites as in science. Trust me, I am a science major, if not a scientist. There are intuitions and hunches. We are talking about what to expect in TZ, in the next 5 years. No science can tell you that. Just conjectures, insights and hopes. You have to grasp this one first.

Jack Daniel's;This is hypocrisy….while you were busy advicing UKAWA said:
mwaka huu mchagueni wa nyumbani[/COLOR]" to the people of the lake regions, what about the famous Nape's "bao la mkono", what about Ridhiwani's "Rais hawezi kutoka kaskazinorei", What about Mkapa's "Wapumbavu, malofa, mbumbumbu"…..

Mkuu, I am from Tanga, a dirt poor Tangan trying to uplift my people. None of our leaders have wielded any sway in Tanzanian politics. Talking about "nyumbani" or "kaskazini" is not impressing me one bit. This is what the great NYERERE was trying to eliminate. You have a voice here in JF, Sir. Please use it constructively.


Mkuu, the videos circulating are in the social media. They can only be neutralized by Hon. Lowasa alone, with UKAWA's participation. Who listens to me? Not even you listens.

 

Yero, This is you at your best. Analyst, mind changer and counter puncher. Please channel your energy doing this than debating schnooks (fools) like me. Also, constrain your sharp tongue.


CCM is fighting back ferociously because UKAWA and CDM are formidable. Pssss. I will give you a secret. CCM are scared too.


I will give this response that can only be delivered better in Swahili: "USIACHE MBACHAO KWA MSWALA UPITAO"

It matters even more when people discover that such videos going viral are just made up and CCM's sponsored videos intended to scare away UKAWA voters, because affirmed with that knowledge, people will not vote cautiously but consciously!!!

That is even more important for you to fight back and diffuse this situation, starting with our leader (don't want to call him fuhrer) Lowasa.

I don't agree with people who want fools to make decisions for us, the problem is that, we have had fools making decisions for decades in this country but where have they gotten us, poor economic development!!!!

If in politics you will deal with fools all the time. If you don't want to agree or compromise with fools then you are not a candidate for a political office.
 


Good one son.

I don't want to burst your bubble right now so close to the D-day.

You have a lot to learn.

See you on the other side.
 

Hey yero, liking a posting says nothing about agreeing with someone. I wish they had options here that indicated:

like - content (all)
like - humor but NOT content
like - cute guy/gal but nothing else
(you will probably win this one hands down, yero)
like - wit but nothing else
(that probably will be me)

Should we bring in JD here yero-boy? Noooo!!

cc. Jack Daniel's, kui
 
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Yero, I am probably old enough to be your father or grandfather. I will let you figure out how old I am. I was a TANU member, then a CCM member (1977-1984). There was no CDM, CUF, nor UKAWA back in the day. All of us were CCM. Ask your parents. Then I lost interest in party politics - boring. Now that you know - sue me.

However, ideas have no age. Please don't be intimidated by how old I am. I like challenges, especially from young people like you and JD. I learn new things from young people always and that is what keeps me young too. So, don't hold back anything - remember I am grandpa.


Yes, I was a faculty member at UDSM when Magufuli joined. I then took a job in another country where I am now. I still teach, do research/consultancy and publish in my field of expertise. I haven't relinquished my citizenship, I was in TZ recently for voter registration. I intend to be there for the elections. I am your worst nightmare yero, you either work with me or burst.

Mkuu, look at his writtings, look at his insults!! he is lying, look at the way he is running away from simple questions!!!!

Yero, I am really old but I am young at heart. All my hair is white (more than that of mzee mamvi) however, my grand-kids insist on dying it black. Right now if you see me I may look younger than you or JD. (Hide your girlfriends when I come to visit you. Just kidding - remember I am grandpa).

Yero, if you look at my earlier postings in this thread you will see that I have always been civil in my responses. Even when you and JD started hurling insults at me I didn't respond in kind. I always responded with humor - grandpa style.

However, when you persisted, I wanted to teach you guys a lesson. I wanted to show you that I was also once a young person and that I can dish it out just as good as - if not better than - you can. I was a bad-ass kid back in the day. Grandpa-ship has mellowed me down, somewhat.

So, instead of fighting me, why don't we work separately BUT friendly.

You know what yero, after October 25 we will know which side of the fence you and I sit. BUT the truth remains that WE ARE ALL TANZANIANS AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR NEW LEADER - LOWASA OR MAGUFULI.

Let us not kill each other before then - please.

kui, Jack Daniel's
 
We are going to dump ccm and its failed policies soon, new life is coming, God bless Tanzanians.
 
Hey hey yero boy.

I just wanted to compliment you on your intelligence and wit.

You know what, with your language skills (English and Swahili) and your bad-ass tongue, you can easily be in the foreign services for our country (maybe our future diplomat, ambassador, foreign minister, president, UN-secretary general?). You just have to zip your potty mouth shut for once. That is all.

I am sorry I said all those bad things about you. I just wanted to know if I still had it, you know male ego thing, - and yes I still have it.

Can we be friends, even though we are on different sides of the fence?

cc. kui, Jack Daniel's
 
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Hi Ms. kui,

Please say something. Did I offend you? I need your opinion too. yero already blasted me and that was a catharsis. Please talk to us.
 
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Sir, I know you have the discretion but I don’t like people shunning away from imperative questions. These questions won’t go away by simply being ignored:

What’s your opinion regarding the Tsh. 265 Billion used to pay ghost debts that CAG unearthed in his report? What about the 1978 fake ferry boat that Magufuli bought for Tsh. 8 Billion?

If Magufuli wins, he will work with a network of corrupt individuals like Kinana, Ridhiwani, Tibaijuka, Muhongo, Sitta et al, is that not a concern?

I do think that everything is wrong with being rich through doing illegal businesses like Kinana’s ivory trade and Ridhiwani’s illicit drugs, don’t you think so?

If there is amity between Kikwete and Lowassa, why did Kiwete's own committee drop Lowassa's name undemocratically at the preliminary stages? Just to follow up on your answer, Can you explain why we see all these forces and besmearing insults against Lowassa? Why is he attacked so much when there is friendship existing?

When you are in CCM you are clean and you only become unclean once you are out of CCM? If your answer is YES, why should we choose a corrupt system? if the answer is NO, Why are CCM leaders and their supporters not talking about the corrupt CCM members who are in CCM right now like Chenge, Tibaijuka, Muhongo, Kinana, Ridhiwani, Kikwete, Mkapa, Mwinyi, Magufuli, Membe et al?
 
Lets try again:

You really know less about today's politics sir, they say things have changed…. 2015 politics are far cry from that of the 80's….today's politics is based on actuality and factuality…that's why CCM is strenuously barking up the wrong tree and achieving modicum results… because their petrification strategies are no longer working, because their creed tactics have become obsolete, because their character calumniation are regarded by many as non-progressive….it is a failure to fail to wrap up around the political science….
The point is, you said you adviced UKAWA to address the ‘Lutheran issue' to try saving some votes, I then asked, What advices DID you give to CCM following these statements: "mwaka huu mchagueni wa nyumbani", "bao la mkono", "Rais hawezi kutoka kaskazini", "Wapumbavu, malofa, mbumbumbu"? If you didn't provide any advices, then why would your advices be genuine to UKAWA while you can't direct them to the party that you support so they can put their ducks in a row?
Mkuu, the videos circulating are in the social media. They can only be neutralized by Hon. Lowasa alone, with UKAWA's participation. Who listens to me? Not even you listens.
What you have to understand is that there is a bunch of videos out there, there is one I saw supporting Lowassa's endeavor….they tend to counter and neutralize themselves inadvertently, that means that any shake ups that may have been created by those videos are inclined to solve themselves spontaneously…..CCM can no longer put wools over the eyes of Tanzanians……
Good for you Sir. I am agnostic myself. But in politic, perceptions are everything. Religion can be used nefariously by people to their advantage. I saw this clearly when Lowasa's video first came out, and that is why I gave that advice.
You know the good thing with perception is that it is a piece of cake to neutralize.…it takes a short time to create and subsequently takes a short time to destroy…..the rule is that a perception is killed by a perception….while there may be a whole bag of tricks with religion issues in politics it is relatively easy to sail through them in today's Tanzania…..
Agreed. Tanzanian problems first. However, how will power seekers gain control? If they can use religious discord to achieve it, they will. How do you diffuse their efforts? That is what I was talking about. Ignore me at your own peril.
That happened successfully in the election of 2005 and 2010….it is not an issue in this election…you don't have to take my word for it, listen to Kikwete, Magufuli and Kinana's remarks…..they always say how different things have changed…..how people cannot understand them…..
I'm sorry for making your flesh crawl….I did examine your statement with a fine tooth comb before replying, and Kikwete fits the answer perfectly well….he said in Mtwara in 2010 that CDM was too Christian and CUF were terrorists….that's what people heard straight from the horse's mouth……that worked well for him but just in the same region five years later people are standing up and saying enough is enough……

Bishop Gwajima is not a presidential candidate and he has never been, your question was not based on remarks of bishops, priests or reverends….
If you know nothing about what is transpiring in CCM and UKAWA/CDM blocks, then you can't make any informed analysis. That's actually explains why you can't understand simple things recently happening in Tanzanian politics.
Then how about CCM where 99% of the team is corrupt (statements from Kinana, Magufuli and others speak volumes)….How are they structured to do it?.....How can you explain Tsh.262 Billion that disappeared in paying ghost debts at Magufuli's ministry?.....How do you explain a fake ferry boat of 1978 he bought for Tsh. 8 Billion?....

How do you explain his poor decision that has cost this nation taxpayers' money for example, apprehension of foreign fishermen in the international waters?, Dismantling of petrol stations? Etc…..
And you will not get your Nirvana with Lowasa either.
By now you should know that I only deal with FACTS and not FICTIONS…..
The point I was trying to make was that democracy is a process, and in countries like Tanzania democracy is often strangled by the ruling party that has been there for five decades.....Tanzanian have got to enjoy the fruits of multi-partism in that context.....

I'm surprised you brought Kenya as an example here, a country that has scored less points in Transparency International's ranking……that's why I said that when you have a corrupt system to the level of Mohammad Reza Shah's dynasty before the 1979 Islamic revolution…you don't call for debates, you call for changes, changes that free people……
Who am I to question you guys. It is your funeral. Let it rip!!!
I know you like flinging yourself into your unfounded disaster theory, but you've already said you don't know a lot of things....so in this discussion, I'll have to drop you from an individual of level B to level D……somebody who knows less…..By the way, Level A means a reasonable person making informed analysis….someone who can look on the brighter side…..
Wise guy. I would like to have a drink with him, my treat. If he is still around tell him I will be in TZ for elections. Let me know.
No he is not around. During his time, he was tired of CCM in all its forms……
 
Yero, This is you at your best. Analyst, mind changer and counter puncher. Please channel your energy doing this than debating schnooks (fools) like me. Also, constrain your sharp tongue.
It is good that you know that you are a complete schlub. Don’t tell me anything about horse sense

CCM is fighting back ferociously because UKAWA and CDM are formidable. Pssss. I will give you a secret. CCM are scared too.
See, you don’t even understand yourself, this is what I talking about, you should be consistent, you said CDM & UKAWA are weak and are easy opponent to CCM, surprisingly now they are formidable and that CCM are scared. Does this have anything to do with a deteriorating memory of our grand pa?

I will give this response that can only be delivered better in Swahili: "USIACHE MBACHAO KWA MSWALA UPITAO"
Our political environment have changed, the strategies and people to win an election have to change, we can’t just rely on people dragging us back, we've got to let them go and have people committed to moving us forward. Change is an essence of progress.
That is even more important for you to fight back and diffuse this situation, starting with our leader (don't want to call him fuhrer) Lowasa.
I think Magufuli needs to do that more than others.

If in politics you will deal with fools all the time. If you don't want to agree or compromise with fools then you are not a candidate for a political office.
Why should I agree with a fool and take their foolish ideas into action? that will definitely produce foolish results. Kikwete is a foolish person with foolish ideas surrounded by foolish people and that has brought this nation to this foolish level of economic development.
 
You can't speak of what was in some else mind unless that person utters the words for him/herself. If one continues to walk on the same path without hesitation then that can explain an intention to insult.
 
Due to of its inscrutability, Richmond scandal was to be brought back to the parliament for a discussion but Sitta, the then Speaker, disallowed that possibly in order to bury the new stuffs that were supposed to be revealed and that was after Lowassa had resigned!!!!

JK was not soft on anybody, the truth is that his dubious deal was in the open and he wanted someone like his PM to take the blame for it. People like Lissu, Sumaye are saying publicly that Kikwete is the mastermind of Richmond and no legal action is taken against them, does this get through your thick skulls that he has everything to do with it?

He tried again successfully with Simba Trust during Escrow scandal and he wanted others to take the blame for it, only this time, the state house had to ‘clean’ everyone because they were too many despite being implicated by the Parliamentary committee!!!
Ignore Said Kubenea. He's just another 'Mganga Njaa'. Don't believe in anything he pretends to 'secretly' have knowledge of
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Kubenea’s newpaper called MwanaHalisi revealed to us that the person who led the operation that nearly killed Dr. Ulimboka is Ramadhani Ighondu (TISS official) and just in a few weeks later his newpaper’s licence was revoked. MwanaHalisi’s license was reinstated this year following a court decision that found the government of CCM guilty of wrongdoings. Very few journalists can publish reports on evils done by State house under CCM!!!!

This tells you how there is no freedom of press and speech under CCM. Kubenea said there were two Richmond scandal reports and that Mwakyembe knows that, but until now neither Mwakyembe nor January or Nape, Kikwete has come out to refute those claims!!!
The Richmond Report is online at Bunge and even at World Bank Website. Read it yourself. Utapeli & UFISADI wa LOWASSA is not a secret to anyone wishing to read.
Try to understand, the question is not what is in the report, the question is what is not in the report that Mwakyembe said if could have been included could have dissolved the whole government!!! I’m questioning what he said but decided not include in his report for the reasons above!!!
Kikwete is not just an obstacle, he is the chief guy here. Why are we still paying Billions to a company that the government think is an illegal company? , that is eight years since Lowassa abdicated. This is not about helping, we are stating the obvious here where Kikwete orchestrated everything!!!!
 


You need to differentiate Rumors and Facts. Not Necessarily that Magufuli will work with corrupt pple. eg. very few in Mkapa's govt were brought up into JK's.



No one said being rich is bad. However, how you got your riches matters. Lowassa got his riches through rushwa.
 
Chief, how can you call CAG's report a rumour?....FYI, CAG report is never a rumour.....get that....Magufuli needs to tell us where the money is......

Kinana (CCM's secretary) doing illegal ivory business through his company, Ridhiwani (Incumbent President's son) getting involved in drugs.....Chenge saying Tsh. 1 Billion is just a few cents, Tibaijuka saying Tsh. 10 Million is simply for food shopping..... Kikwete saying funds which were in Escrow Account were not government's and the list goes on........CCM's top, middle and bottom leaders including Magufuli have been getting richer through corruption....shouldn't that be a concern?
 

..I wish they had a word to word like!, so someone can understand berra the whole point of liking someone else's comments, nevertheless, I don't a see a problem with criticism. That's where we see the other side of ourselves. I didn't like, and I don't like ccm ideas, it was some parts of your comments that I thought UKAWA could make use of, to up their game and make Lowassa a viable candidate...

Am out on this, don't want cry - babies to start scream INSULTS!
 
Mkuu Kifyatu from your posts above, seems like you're a hard core ccm fan and I'm surprised how you even gave Ukawa a second thought.

The way I see ccm, it's like an abusive, cheater, inconsiderate husband who keeps coming back for forgiveness every now and then, and what do we do?, we keep forgiving him and give him more chances years after years ( I guess tumelishwa limbwata)

One thing you haven't convinced me on, and would like to know is what do you think ccm will do to change, you had a lay out of Ukawa weaknesses so what about CCM's strength?!, is there anything that we haven't heard from them?!, cause all they're doing is pee on us, then tell us it's raining outside.
 
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