This election is not about Lowassa, It is about us

[mwengeso]

Give us a synopsis of what you saw on that newpaper, tell us briefly how many decent jobs were created, how many people are lifted out of poverty, does it say that life has become easier for ALL Tanzanians, how about how we have benefited from the natural resources we have in this country.

yero: you stand out as an example of JK's achievement since you have the means to contribute herein.

 

[MBEBA MAONO KAJA]

RED: I think at party levels, CCM needs more cleaning than any other party, take a look at the following FEW examples to see how we have lost public funds under CCM.....

Tegeta Escrow Account..............306 Billion Shillings
Mwanachi Gold..........................272 Billion Shilings
Meremeta................................155 Billion Shillings
Commodity Import Support(CIS)..150 Billion Shillings
External Payments Arrears (EPA)..133 Billion Shillings
Ministry of Works ....................262 Billion Shillings
TOTAL....................................1.2 Trillion Shillings

What about this sort of 'cleaning'......

Mwakyembe said in his Report that he has to read HALF of the report for fear to dissolve the whole government under Kikwete, the other HIDDEN HALF, who does it involve? Why is Kikwete not talking about it?

Hao wote kutajwa kwao kumekuzwa na chadema hivyo wakijitangaza kukihama ccm watasemwa wanamabadiliko and hence no fisadi at all isipokuwa ni propaganda za chadema tu.
Gharama kubwaaa kututangazia list of Shame na kutuona mazuzu kwa kutuaminisha mabadiliko bila hata kuzikana kauli zao za mwanzo.
Nafsi zao zinafahamu ukweli watakaouface mbele ya hii safari iliyobadilushiwa gia ghafla.
Ukiwa nje ya Chadema mchafu na ukiungana nao msafi. ....Bila shaka wao ni watakasaji na hivyo ni jukumu lao kwenda kuwashawishi na hao wengine wachafu walobaki kama walivomshawishi huyu wajiunge nao wazidi kuingarisha ccm kwa wanatumia fikra zao kufikiri.
Mungu ibariki Tanzania

 

[Jack Daniel's]

Hao wote kutajwa kwao kumekuzwa na chadema hivyo wakijitangaza kukihama ccm watasemwa wanamabadiliko and hence no fisadi at all isipokuwa ni propaganda za chadema tu.
Gharama kubwaaa kututangazia list of Shame na kutuona mazuzu kwa kutuaminisha mabadiliko bila hata kuzikana kauli zao za mwanzo.
Nafsi zao zinafahamu ukweli watakaouface mbele ya hii safari iliyobadilushiwa gia ghafla.
Ukiwa nje ya Chadema mchafu na ukiungana nao msafi. ....Bila shaka wao ni watakasaji na hivyo ni jukumu lao kwenda kuwashawishi na hao wengine wachafu walobaki kama walivomshawishi huyu wajiunge nao wazidi kuingarisha ccm kwa wanatumia fikra zao kufikiri.
Mungu ibariki Tanzania

Mkuu, hao waliohamia chadema walivyokuwa CCM walikuwa ni wasafi....inaonekana kwenu ninyi CCM ukiondoka mtu ndio unakuwa fisadi, ukiendelea kuwemo kama akina Chenge, Tibaijuka, Muhongo, Kikwete, Mkapa, Mwinyi, Ridhiwani na wengine pamoja na wale 10 kwenye list of shame unakuwa msafi....tena unasafishwa na fisadi Kikwete.....

Hizo fedha zilizotafunwa sh. 1.2 Trillioni hujazitolea maelezo kwanini turudishe wezi kuongoza nchi?????


Kile kipande alichokiacha Mwakyembe akasema ingesababisha serikali kuanguka, kilikuwa kinamuhusu nani????

 

[yero]

yero: you stand out as an example of JK's achievement since you have the means to contribute herein.

Sir, you've run out of gas, I suggest you fill up and come back.

I feel bad when many Tanzanians are poor even if they are not my relatives, I feel pain when a young girl is denied sufficient student loan even if she is not my sister, My life is not complete when older people are not living a life of dignity even if they are not my grandfathers and mothers. When graduates spend years trying to get a decent job, I can't stop thinking about my fellow youths.

When I see a few people in the government of CCM getting richer and richer, I am pretty much convinced that they are not thinking about what they can do to develop the life of many Tanzanians instead they think about themselves too much.

 

[kui]

sorry madam, are you the one who hosting #MKIKIMKIKI2015 , just a question.!! We want to hear what you think is going to get us moving. May be you have some points that we can get on board with.

No Sir, it's not me who's hosting mikikimikiki2015.
And what do I think is going to get us moving?!,.....you probably know the answer by now, UKAWA...lol!

But seriously, we need change to kick start our country. We've been betrayed for so long with the ruling party, it's not even funny any more. It's leadership has been impotent, and it's leaders just figure heads.
If we take a chance on opposition two things will be coming with CHANGE.
1. We'll learn and experience something different from what we're used to, at least we'll know what else is out there and what other parties have to offer to our country. We're confined politically right now, all we know is ccm.
2. If opposition take over the country ccm will definitely change its game, and if they have to come back(depending on opposition performance) they're going to be way better than before.

Another important thing to be worked upon whether it's the opposition or ccm in power, is transparency. It might sound unreal and it's an enormous challenge for any kind of leadership but in order for a fed up wananchi to trust their government again (whether it's ccm or ukawa) there has to be some sort of transparency.

My two cents.

 

[Ryaro wa Ryaro]

We don't have option rather than saying No to CCM.Our hope is UKAWA and Lowassa.

 

[Kifyatu]

No Sir, it's not me who's hosting mikikimikiki2015.
And what do I think is going to get us moving?!,.....you probably know the answer by now, UKAWA...lol!

But seriously, we need change to kick start our country. We've been betrayed for so long with the ruling party, it's not even funny any more. It's leadership has been impotent, and it's leaders just figure heads.
If we take a chance on opposition two things will be coming with CHANGE.
1. We'll learn and experience something different from what we're used to, at least we'll know what else is out there and what other parties have to offer to our country. We're confined politically right now, all we know is ccm.
2. If opposition take over the country ccm will definitely change its game, and if they have to come back(depending on opposition performance) they're going to be way better than before.

Another important thing to be worked upon whether it's the opposition or ccm in power, is transparency. It might sound unreal and it's an enormous challenge for any kind of leadership but in order for a fed up wananchi to trust their government again (whether it's ccm or ukawa) there has to be some sort of transparency.

My two cents.

Ouch Lady.

Remind me not to tangle with you. Love it.

The problem though is, I am not sure if our new captain-to-be is up to snuff.

Please don't hit me!

 

[yero]

If everyone gets the benefits of doubt, why not Lowassa (the new captain)?. We lost 265 Billion Shillings in Magufuli's Ministry, Magufuli cost us with a fake ferry boat and an old ship, he sold government properties at cheap prices, and people like Kifyatu are not even skeptical of him.

Escrow guys are up for re-elections, they are given the benefit of doubt.

Lowassa is not given the benefit of doubt despite proclaiming that his Boss had everything to do with a contract that we are yet to know how much we lost. Why all the unfounded skepticism and incertitudes with a guy sorrounded by a union of four parties?.

 

[kui]

Ouch Lady.

Remind me not to tangle with you. Love it.

The problem though is, I am not sure if our new captain-to-be is up to snuff.

Please don't hit me!

Hahah!, won't hit you, challenge is learning.
Funny thing is, I thought this might be grilled by someone like Kifyatu...lol!

Harry S.Truman once said,
"Once a government is committed to the principles of silencing the voice of the opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it become a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear"

Mkuu I hope you haven't been swiped with fear created by the rulling part. The fear of unknown in case we take a different path but when we talk about change I guess we have to line up our thoughts the same way, while thinking and keeping in mind that some things will obviously change and hopefully for the good.

Back to the topic, mkuu as we all know presidency is an institution there's all sorts of people with different ideas working together for the common cause, now, in case chadema wins this eelection and make history, do you really think they'd want to mess up and be sidelined by wananchi after 5yrs?!
I'm sure they have a different setting of mind that differ from that of ccm who doesn't care whether they mess up or not.

I'd like to hear from my friend and our neighbor who's been in this path before and actually hesitated to go for opposition in their last eelections, may be he'll have a word or two about your uncertainty. MK254

 

[Kifyatu]

If everyone gets the benefits of doubt, why not Lowassa (the new captain)?. We lost 265 Billion Shillings in Magufuli's Ministry, Magufuli cost us with a fake ferry boat and an old ship, he sold government properties at cheap prices, and people like Kifyatu are not even skeptical of him.

Escrow guys are up for re-elections, they are given the benefit of doubt.

Lowassa is not given the benefit of doubt despite proclaiming that his Boss had everything to do with a contract that we are yet to know how much we lost. Why all the unfounded skepticism and incertitudes with a guy sorrounded by a union of four parties?.

You are preaching to the choir, Sir.

 

[Kifyatu]

Hahah!, won't hit you, challenge is learning.
Funny thing is, I thought this might be grilled by someone like Kifyatu...lol!

Harry S.Truman once said,
"Once a government is committed to the principles of silencing the voice of the opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it become a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear"

Mkuu I hope you haven't been swiped with fear created by the rulling part. The fear of unknown in case we take a different path but when we talk about change I guess we have to line up our thoughts the same way, while thinking and keeping in mind that some things will obviously change and hopefully for the good.

Back to the topic, mkuu as we all know presidency is an institution there's all sorts of people with different ideas working together for the common cause, now, in case chadema wins this eelection and make history, do you really think they'd want to mess up and be sidelined by wananchi after 5yrs?!
I'm sure they have a different setting of mind that differ from that of ccm who doesn't care whether they mess up or not.

I'd like to hear from my friend and our neighbor who's been in this path before and actually hesitated to go for opposition in their last eelections, may be he'll have a word or two about your uncertainty. MK254

Aaah!! - I survived this one - just kidding.

Actually Madam, you, yero, and Jack Daniel's (I like his new avatar of his galaxy) think alike about change. I just have this nagging nervous twitch (Yero, don't bring your psychoanalysis mambo-jumbo again, LOL) about our new captain-to-be. This has nothing to do with his health but rather his true motives for wanting this position so bad. You know - kind of a gut feeling that is nagging me?

I think we are all on the same page.

 

[Jozi 1]

This election is about choosing a different path for our country, We, as the citizens of this country we love, have a choice to make about the path we are going to pursue as a country. There are two candidates on the ‘spotlight’ with two different paths for our country.

We are going to make a choice about whether to continue on the path we have been on, or try a new prospective path, We are going to choose on whether to continue with the same policies that have brought us here or try new ones.

Magufuli has worked with Kikwete 100% of his time, there is no record of him saying no to any of his policies, which means the policies that have failed and dumped many of us into poverty in Tanzania today are highly likely to be continued by Magufuli. Moreover, Magufuli is in a network where he can’t work differently. Lowassa’s has worked with Kikwete 20% of his time, he has differed with Kikwete on several occasions, his priority on education was/is in contrast with Kikwete’s agricultural priority, he wanted to end Richmond’s contract but his efforts were blocked by Kikwete, just to mention a few.

We are going to make a choice about almost everything that matters to us, for instance a choice about:

A government that will invest heavily on education because part of the problem we have today is having many people who can’t reason and make choices intelligently…we can’t just continue to lower pass marks to paint a picture of an educated population quality not quantity of education matters.

A small government, not the kind of a large ineffective government similar to the one that we had over the last decade that spends public funds unwisely and unnecessarily.

A government that will respect human rights and human dignity not forgetting freedom of press, of speech, of association and of assembly….we can’t just continue to have irresponsible law enforcement, intelligence community and military that put the ruling party’s interests ahead on the nation’s.

The government that will facilitate job creation for the youth…not similar to the one that killed our industries and businesses by putting self-interests ahead of the nation’s...not the one that fails to find good markets for our products…..and not the one that allows unregulated importation of products that turns our country into a dumping zone.

A government that will work on an overhauled constitution which will increase accountability, transparency and prosperity not a government that will work with the existing or similar to the existing constitution that has a lot of proven weaknesses.


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We’ve got to raise our reasoning beyond the choice of candidates for presidency and think more about the kind of path that we need as a country We have a choice to make the next five years look like the last five (business as usual) or make the next five years look different (business through change)

Attacking Lowassa is trying to make Tanzanians believe that this election is not about a new path for our country…..What the critics fail to understand is that this election is not about Lowassa, it is about us (the citizens)

We elect the leaders.
The rest depends on who we elect.
The way the race stands its either Lowassa or Magufuli.

 

[yero]

You are preaching to the choir, Sir.

You call that gospel!! Like I’m a man of faith?

But understand that, Doubt is not the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith. Faith and doubts in politicians co-exist. So while you keep saying that you’re on the same page, don’t let your doubts take control of you.

 

[Kifyatu]

You call that gospel!! Like I'm a man of faith?

But understand that, Doubt is not the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith. Faith and doubts in politicians co-exist. So while you keep saying that you're on the same page, don't let your doubts take control of you.

When you let go of all your senses and swallow every dogma put to you then you have stopped being a rational person but a mere slave.

 

[yero]

When you let go of all your senses and swallow every dogma put to you then you have stopped being a rational person but a mere slave.

"Life is made up of a series of judgments on insufficient data, and if we waited to run down all our doubts, it would flow past us"

You are wrong if you are implying that I do not question things or that I take in everything. That is not true, and don’t think everyone supporting this cause of change is some kind of a slave or irrational. People have made their judgment calls basing on facts and data. Full Stop.

Weighing on the possibility of success for both candidates, many of us have decided to try a new team.

 

[Kifyatu]

You call that gospel!! Like I'm a man of faith?

But understand that, Doubt is not the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith. Faith and doubts in politicians co-exist. So while you keep saying that you're on the same page, don't let your doubts take control of you.

Just in case you didn't understand the expression (I doubt it), if someone says to you that "you are preaching to the choir", it means he/she is agreeing with you.

I am sorry if I am stating the obvious.

 

[Kifyatu]

"Life is made up of a series of judgments on insufficient data, and if we waited to run down all our doubts, it would flow past us"

You are wrong if you are implying that I do not question things or that I take in everything. That is not true, and don't think everyone supporting this cause of change is some kind of a slave or irrational. People have made their judgment calls basing on facts and data. Full Stop.

Weighing on the possibility of success for both candidates, many of us have decided to try a new team.

I am not sure we are differing on anything here. Think man!!!

Don't just argue for the sake of argument. We can achieve more by collaborating than arguing.

However, if your passion is simply argument, I can give you plenty of that.

You really don't want to engage me - trust me.

 

[yero]

I am not sure we are differing on anything here. Think man!!!

Don't just argue for the sake of argument. We can achieve more by collaborating than arguing.

However, if your passion is simply argument, I can give you plenty of that.

You really don't want to engage me - trust me.

Okey!! lets clear things up. The problem is that you are hiding the ground where you stand or your ground is full of doubts. Which candidate or party are you going for (just in case you wish to share)

 

[Jack Daniel's]

We elect the leaders.
The rest depends on who we elect.
The way the race stands its either Lowassa or Magufuli.

Electing leaders is not an end in itself….we’ve got to think about what happens between elections…

I think the path the candidates pursue should be regarded as a means to a better end…..and that should help define our choices….

Alright?....

 

[Kifyatu]

Okey!! lets clear things up. The problem is that you are hiding the ground where you stand or your ground is full of doubts. Which candidate or party are you going for (just in case you wish to share)

I am glad you asked:

I am not hiding anything. My core beliefs have always been that CCM has been entrenched for a very long time and that created a bloated bureaucracy. I wanted the opposition (mainly CDM) to take the helm - I mean presidency (just to humble CCM and maybe to cut them down to size).

My problem is that UKAWA brought in Lowasa.

I have serious doubts with Lowasa and his network (people with business interests in Tanzania, you know - Rostam et al.) Trust me, these are not just empty doubts.

These people are not trying to get into power to rescue the country and its people but rather to wipe Tanzania clean.

(I have expressed it elsewhere in Swahili that "hawa watu hawakuja kuikomboa Tanzania bali kuikomba", hasa hivi sasa tulivyokuwa na utaajiri mkubwa unaobubujika ardhini).

That is the reason why I have always questioned the true motives of Lowasa crossover into UKAWA, like:

• Does Lowasa really espouse the same ideals that CDM stood for over the years?
• Why did he have to buy his way in, in the tune of Tsh. 20 billion?
• Why did intellectuals in UKAWA the likes of Prof. Lipumba and Dr. Slaa jump ship?
• Why does UKAWA try to muzzle anyone who is questioning this transition?
• If this is PEOPLES POWER, then why are people stifled from speaking freely in the streets against UKAWA? (don't have proof on this)

I have many more doubts than I care to list, but you get the gist.

So yero man, you got me here (I don't know the answer to your question).

I like CDM BUT I don't trust Lowasa. What to do?