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Kama kuna tusi lolote nililomtukana ripoti kwa Mods mkuu.
Tafurahi sana kama utaniunganisha na Mohamed Said, tena nashukuru kwa kunipa hii nafasi.
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Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar
Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar
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Kama kuna tusi lolote nililomtukana ripoti kwa Mods mkuu.
Tafurahi sana kama utaniunganisha na Mohamed Said, tena nashukuru kwa kunipa hii nafasi.
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Dini ni mazingira tu. Mungu ni mmoja. Amri kuu kuliko zote ni UPENDO. Mpende Bwana Mungu wako kwa moyo wako wote, na kwa roho yako yote, na kwa akili zako zote. Kadhalika mpende jirani yako kama nafsi yako. Kuna nini tena? Zaidi ya haya ni ubishi na upumbavu.
Son of Alaska
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Tunaomba utuwekee hii review
Hamna kitu.
Kimoja ''Simba wa Vita'' nimekifanyia ''review'' magazeti yote wamekataa kuchapa ''review'' yangu.
Wanaukumbi ikiwa mtapenda naweza nikakuwekeeni hapa hiyo ''review.''
Hamna kitu.
Kimoja ''Simba wa Vita'' nimekifanyia ''review'' magazeti yote wamekataa kuchapa ''review'' yangu.
Wanaukumbi ikiwa mtapenda naweza nikakuwekeeni hapa hiyo ''review.''
Mimi siwezi kukuripoti kwasababu kufanya hivyo nitajidharirisha kazi yangu nikukupa shule halafu wenzako watakupima uwezo wako.
Hekima ni kitu cha bure, kuwachafua wakatoiliki na kuwapatia kisichokuwepo kwenye katiba yao ni utovu wa nidham
Huwezi kumalizia ghadhabu zako kwa kuhojiana na mtu mwingine uwapelekee wakatoliki matamko.
wakati mwingine tutumie vema hekima zetu, kila siku wewe na Dr salaa hata pale asipohusika. mijadala mingi hutumii uhuru wako vizuri?
Tufanye mijadala lakini kujiingiza kwenye kanisa na kuwaingizia wakatoliki unachokiona wewe bora ni kushindwa hoja tena vibaya.
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Mohamed Said,tunaomba hiyo review ya kitabu cha"Simba wa Vita" mpaka magazeti yote kuikataa-it must be explosive
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Mkuu Moh - kitabu cha "Simba wa Vita" ndio kina muhusu nani tena!!!
Son of Alaska
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kinamuhusu KAWAWA,my take ni kwamba Mohamed Said kamwita Kawawa "yes man" ndio maana no newspaper could touch this review
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Yericko Nyerere
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Itupie hapa mkuu, ili isahihishe kile ninachokiita uchochezi wa Mohamed Said!
Mohamed Said
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Sikumwita ''yes man.''
Usitoe hukumu kabla hata kesi haijasikilizwa.
Utawafunga jela watu wasio na makosa.
Bukyanagandi
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Mimi namuomba Mkuu Moh atuwekee REVIEW ya kitabu hicho hapa jamvini, jamaa huyu ni mtafiti mahili, mkuu!
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Hayo ndio matatizo yenu, mnaposhindwa kukAbiliana na hoja huwaga mnaziita uchochozi.
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Hicho ndicho tunachojaribu kuzuia malalamiko na uchochezi wa ndugu zetu usio walazima!
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Kumbe huko online - Kheri ya mwaka mpya mkuu MOH, hivi ukituwekea REVIEW hapa Jamvini itakuletea matatizo yoyote kisheria? kama hakuna basi mwaga vitu mkuu. Samahani kwa kiswahili changu cha kuhunga hunga.
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...Kawawa's book by Magotti reads like a long CCM report – drab, dry and uninteresting.
It is not that Kawawa had nothing to tell. It is not that Kawawa's life history is one long uninteresting political career. Kawawa participated in the struggle for Tanganyika's independence as a trade unionist.
Kawawa served under Mwalimu Nyerere for many years, one of the most able, charismatic and authoritarian leader Africa has known.
Surely there must have been a lot of interesting stories to tell, of intrigues, trading of favours, shifting alliances, changing horses mid stream common in the murky game of politics.
Kawawa was there when Nyerere defeated his opponents and enemies one by one playing his cards close to his chest putting them on the table just about the right time. Kawawa knew these people first hand some of them have passed on and some are still living.
There is a lot of material which Kawawa if probed could have provided information to make his book interesting.
The book carries nothing on relationship between Kawawa and Nyerere though the grapevine has reported that there were times the two did not speak to each other for days.
I do not know Mzee Kawawa well to the extent that I can pick up a pen and write about him.
I can only comment on the book on him from notes and audio cassette I made when I was researching on the life of the late Abdulwahid Sykes.
During that research I managed to get the mood and feeling of the times going through the papers in the custody of the Sykes family.
Ally Sykes gave me a heap of old files and loose documents others dating back to 1950s. He told me to read those files and then after finishing we can sit down for interviews. This is how I met Kawawa.
In one of the files I came across a hand written letter from Bukoba which Kawawa wrote to Ally Sykes in 1952. There were also other correspondences by Kawawa dating 1951. These documents have very interesting information. I wish to share this information with readers. Ally Sykes told me on tape reminiscing of the times he was working with Kawawa in the colonial civil service:
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[TD] ''In 1951 I was elected General Secretary of TAGSA (Tanganyika African Government Servants Association). The association was formed in 1927 with the objective of promoting understanding between Her Majesty's Government and us African Servants.
Thomas Marealle was president and Rashid Kawawa was committee member. The constitution of TAGSA provided for annual elections, and I was returned to office as secretary four times until October, 1954 when I had to resign after being transferred to Korogwe as punishment for being among the seventeen TANU founder members.
The presidency always changed hands and Stephen Mhando and Dr. Wilbard Mwanjisi were at various times elected presidents.
Among active members of TAGSA were Dr Michael Lugazia and Rashid Kawawa who was elected secretary to replace me. That experience put Kawawa in a good position for he was later elected to the post of General Secretary of Tanganyika Federation of Labour (TFL)...''
It is strange that Kawawa's book does not have references to his personal papers which are not only important to Kawawa's life history but to the history of Tanganyika as well.
Magotti did not even interview Kawawa's contemporaries still living like Ally Sykes and Victor Mkello a fellow trade unionist now on his death bed.
This was Magotti's greatest omission.
Had he done that he would have come across Kawawa's other contemporaries and names of other patriots who Kawawa had worked with in TAGSA like Dr. Wilbard Mwanjisi, Dr. Michael Lugazia, Dr Kyaruzi and others.
Kawawa's contemporaries are aware of the conflict and hatred between Dr. Mwanjisi and Nyerere which lasted many years forcing Dr. Mwanjisi to run away from Tanzania to seek employment in Kenya.
Dr Mwanjisii was a person known to both Nyerere and Kawawa.
Efforts to mediate between the two did not bear any fruits. What was the reason for that conflict was it a case of personality clash or what?
On the basis of these personalities he would have probed Kawawa to talk about them and it is obvious each name would have a story waiting to be told.
This would have added flavour to the book. For instance Dr. Lugazia was an active member of TAA during that time when the association was drafting the TANU constitution.
Hailing from Bukoba he wanted Bukoba to be one of the provinces represented at the TANU founding meeting in July 1954 but unfortunately Ali Migeyo who was the most active leader in the Lake Region was in prison and as a result of this TAA in Bukoba lost momentum.
The story of Ali Migeyo is among the sad chapters in the history of Tanganyika's independence struggle. Migeyo who was a leading voice in the Lake Region was imprisoned by the colonial government for mobilizing the people against British colonialism.
After independence Migeyo was detained by Nyerere's government for his political activities.
It would have been very interesting to hear from Kawawa why Nyerere took the decision to imprison a fellow patriot and one of the leading figures who spearheaded the struggle for Tanganyika's independence.
On the same breath it would have been interesting to know how he felt when in 1964 leaders in the trade union movement, patriots like Victor Mkello, Paul Pamba, Abdallah Mwamba, Hassan Khupe, Salum Abdallahand many others who he had worked with during the struggle for independence were detained and while in detention the government outlawed the trade unions they were leading and formed a new organisation NUTA lead by handpicked personalities within the TANU echelons.
There is an interesting part in which the book portrays Kawawa as a government servant working in the Mau Mau camps set up by the colonial government to detain Kenyans suspected of being Mau Mau living in Tanganyika.
These camps were opened up soon after the declaration of emergence in Kenya when Kenyatta and other patriots the famous Kapenguria Six - Bildad Kaggia, Jomo Kenyatta, Kun'gu Karumba, Achieng Oneko, Paul Ngei and Fred Kubai were arrested.
Among the Mau Mau detainees at Handeni Camp where Kawawa was working were two TANU members although they were Kenyans.
These were Dome Okochi Budohi and Patrick Aoko. Budohi's TANU card was no. 6.
Budohi and Aoko were arrested in 1955 soon after the formation of TANU. They were detained at the Central Police Station in Dar es Salaam and interrogated for six months. The two were kept in chains.
Kawawa if propped could have talked about these Kenyan patriots who struggled for Tanganyika's independence and about his experiences with them in the Mau Mau camps and what became of them when both Kenya and Tanganyika were liberated from the British.
Budohi and Kawawa were both entertainers of their time, the cool, elegant young men of Dar es Salaam of 1950s. Budohi was a talented musician playing with the Skylarks of which young Ally Sykes was the band leader and Kawawa was an actor.
The band was very popular at that time as it was the only band which played popular western style music such as jazz, waltz, and the like.
The band later changed its name to the Blackbirds and the band was a regular feature in the local radio station "Sauti ya Dar es Salaam'' when broadcasting began in Tanganyika in 1951.
Kawawa like all other young men in Dar es Salaam was a regular patron when Blackbirds played at Arnatouglo Hall during week ends.
Budohi and Kawawa therefore knew each other very well. The two had acted together in a movie "Wageni Wema" let alone that both were budding young politicians.
Kawawa surely must be having a lot of fond memories of those days long gone.
The times when Kawawa was acting in mid 1950s was the time which the British after World War Two had embarked on opening certain avenues to Africans particularly in music and other entertainment activities like broadcasting and film making.
This was the time when an Englishman by the name of Hugh Tracey from Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) was making rounds in the colonies and in his travels he was recording African music.
Tracey discovered Mwenda Jean Bosco from Belgian Congo (now DRC) and George Sibanda from Southern Rhodesia and recorded their music which came to be very popular in East Africa during the 1950s and early 1960s.
This music was played in radio stations in British African colonies like Sierra Leone, Ghana and Nigeria.
George Sibanda acted in a movie which the theme is very similar to the one which Kawawa acted in "Muhogo Mchungu."
The music in that movie was from the songs and guitar played by Sibanda and flute played by the legendary Spokes Mashiane the King of Kwela from Johannesburg, South Africa.
This was the time when Peter Colmore discovered Frank Humplink in Moshi and recorded his music in Nairobi.
One of Humplink's songs came to be TANU's clarion and was banned by the colonial government and had young Humplink arrested only to be released when Chief Thomas Marealle of the Chagga intervened with the British.
It was the times when music played by Africans mingled with politics to the chagrin of colonialists.
These are the stories of the times which Kawawa not only witnessed but was also a key player. This was not reflected in Magotti's book.
Some of the music, films, photographs and documents of those times are in the custody of the estate of the late Peter Colmore at his Muthaiga residence in Nairobi other documents and photographs are in the custody of Ally Sykes in Dar es Salaam.
The movies which Kawawa made with the help of a South African company were in the custody of the Audio Visual Institute but for lack of proper facilities of film stowing the films have been damaged beyond repair.
They cannot be put on a projector.
This withstanding copies of the film must be in existence in some film libraries in South Africa were the films were processed and some copies must be lying somewhere in Britain.
The door is still open for researchers to enter and write about the life history of Rashidi Mfaume Kawawa because his biography is yet to be written.
But I congratulate the author for writing this book because it is from this book that I derived the strength to write the little that I know on the times of Mzee Kawawa.
Surely Kawawa has beaten all of them in Tanzania he has two books on his life but again his is a tale of two books and the book that never was.
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Ndugu yangu niko online ahsante kwa kunijulia hali.
Hii review haina tatizo nimeimwaga humu ukumbini.
Ni ''kuungaunga'' kwani wewe si mtz?
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Asante sana ndugu, nitarejea kwako baada ya mapitio!
Bukyanagandi
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Mimi ni mtanzania mkuu, hisipokuwa kiswahili changu kiko a bit rusty!
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Jamani mwenyemungu ni mkubwa, hudhihiri kila jambo kwa namna apendavyo.Mohamed Said amejificha katika ngozi ya mwanahistoria, ameaminisha baadhi ya watu kuhusu maonevu ya waislam baada ya kushidwa kutetea historia. Sasa anatueleza kile kilichopo moyoni.
Huko nyuma alishawahi kusema ipo siku AU na EU wtakuja kusuluhisha vita vya dini(ushahidi upo JF kwa maneno yake)
Leo anashawishi watu wanunue CD na DVD za Ilunga kwasababu yeye ni 'mtaalamu''
Hebu chukua muda wako kidogo umsikilize swahiba yake Mohamed, sheikh Ilunga halafu utafakari hatari mbele yetu
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Nimefedheheka sana kuliona tangazo la huyu ndugu Mohamed Said la kuhimiza watu watu wanunue CD na DVD za kichochezi,
Hii inanipa picha kujiridhisha zaidi kuwa Mohamed Said ni mchochezi na mhaini wa nchi hii, taifa liwe makini na Sanguine huyu kwani anakotupeleka kesho tutajuta!