Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

Huyo ndie Mohamed Said,mchochezi namba moja nchini akiungwa mkono na vibara wake, wao wanajiona ni waislamu kuliko waislamu wa nchi hui.
 
Huyo ndie Mohamed Said,mchochezi namba moja nchini akiungwa mkono na vibara wake, wao wanajiona ni waislamu kuliko waislamu wa nchi hui.

Mpaka sasa mmeshindwa kuuonesha huo uchochezi. Tunachoona hapa ni udhalim tu wa Nyerere kwa Waislaam.
 
Huyo ndie Mohamed Said,mchochezi namba moja nchini akiungwa mkono na vibara wake, wao wanajiona ni waislamu kuliko waislamu wa nchi hui.

Waislam wote Tanzania wanamuunga mkono Mohamed Said kumbe ulikuwa hujui.
 
Pumba nyingi lakini cha maana hakuna? huwa sikielewi unachobwabwaja.

Mshume Kiyate ulimjuwa kabla ya kumsoma Mohamed Said?
Kuna uwezekano wewe na wenzio ni wagonjwa na Mohamed Said anawatumia bila kujua.
 
Kuna uwezekano wewe na wenzio ni wagonjwa na Mohamed Said anawatumia bila kujua.

Sisi tu wagonjwa na matibabu kwenye hospitali zetu hakuna, bado tunasubiri MoU yetu.

Na ugonjwa wetu ulianza pale Masheikh wetu walipokuwa wakitiwa ndani hovyo na bila ya sababu kwa Uislaam wao tu.
 
Sisi tu wagonjwa na matibabu kwenye hospitali zetu hakuna, bado tunasubiri MoU yetu.

Na ugonjwa wetu ulianza pale Masheikh wetu walipokuwa wakitiwa ndani hovyo na bila ya sababu kwa Uislaam wao tu.
Endeleeni kusubiri itawafuata hapo hapo vubarazani mnaposhinda mkidanganyana kupandishana makohoka ya kiburi na zandiku
 

Nguruvi3,

Huna haja ya kumtuma Ritz.
Mimi na wewe tunazungumza humu bila shida.

Mimi kusema kweli naandika na naamini naeleweka.

Ikiwa wewe hunielewi na unaona nachanganya mambo
hii ni bahati mbaya.

Niulize Insha Allah nitajibu kile ninachojua.
 



Mohamed atuambie shule ngapi za maana walizojenga waislamu ambazo hata wakristo wanaweza kusoma. hebu atuambie shule ngapi za kiislamu ambazo wameajiri wakristo kufundisha vijana wao. unajua ukifundishwa na mtu kama mohamed anayelalamika wakati wote bila kutafuta majibu halisi ya maswali magumu unatarajia mwanafunzi atakuwa na tabia tofauti na mohamed. kumbukeni mtoto umleavyo ndivyo akuavyö.


Waislamu wamefundishwa tangu madrasa kuwa wakristo ni watu wabaya/makafiri na wanawanyanyasa, je unatarajia akiwa mtu mzima atakuwa na mawazo positive kwa dini nyingine, hivi leo kuna mtu anamzuia muislamu kwenda somalia au tunisia aende kuishi huko aone waislamu wenzake wanavyoteseka chini ya utawala wa kiislamu. kwa bahati mbaya tunazungumza na wanaharakati wa uislamu na sio waumini wa kiislamu wanaojua ukweli wa uislamu na chanzo chake. nasema hivo mbona wanakula nguruwe zinazochinjwa na wakristo lkn hawapati madhara, ushahidi ni kuwa wakifunga mifungo yao na nyama ya nguruwe maarufu kama mbuzi katoliki inabaki buchani na bei inapungua sana.sasa kwann wasile nyama ya ngombe/mbuzi inayochinjwa na wakristo, ni ubaguzi na unafiki uliopo ndani ya mioyo yao, ndio unaowaghalimu

Kikwete alipoingia madarakani aliwahi kuwaambia waislamu mmezidi kulalamika bila kuchukua hatua na akawashauri wasomeshe watoto wao na pili waeleze huduma zipi za jamii wanazofanya ili serikali iweze kuingia MOU na wao. waislamu walipotea sasa leo wanapolaumu wakati aliyeko madarakani ni muislamu kawaambia walete orodha ya hospitali zao ambazo serikali inaweza kuingia MOU ili wapate ruzuku ya serikali wameshindwa, ukiona akina mohamed wanalalamika, ni ishara kuwa hata tamko la rais hakulisikia? ukiongozwa na mtu asiyejua hata yaliyoko nchini kwake usitarajie kuvuna mema bali utavuna uharibifu

unajua ndio maana kuna usemi usemao kuuliza si ujinga, endapo mohamed angeuliza je ni wapi waislamu wanakosea hata hawapati maendeleo, tungempa ushauri wa maana na wa kumsaidia tofauti na sasa tunamwambia ukweli ambao haupakwi mafuta hata kidogo

ni hasara katika nchi kuwa na watu wenye mawazo finyu na wasiotaka kuukubali ukweli kama mohamed. kama zingekuwa mbegu ningekaanga zote nile potelea mbali nikose mbegu za kupanda na kuvuna mazao hata kama ingenigharimu kufa




pia atueleze ni hospitali ngapi za maana walizojenga waislamu ambazo hata watu wasio na dini wanatibiwa hapo
 

Nguruvi3,

Mimi na wewe tumetoka mbali katika mjadala lakini kuna jambo
silipendi.

Ukinikejeli nashindwa kukujibu.
 

Nguruvi3,

Msome Prof. Hamza Njozi ''Mwembechai Killings...'':

[SIZE=+0]"A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave half free. -- Abraham Lincoln, June 16, 1858.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+3]

The Limits of "Suffering without Bitterness"[/SIZE]


[SIZE=+0]In his moving farewell speech at the Diamond Jubilee Hall on 4th November, 1985 Mwalimu Nyerere made two statements, of great moment, about Muslims in Tanzania. In a way, those statements encapsulate and crystallise both Tanzania's looming political tragedy and the fading hopes of averting it. In the first part Nyerere paid glowing tribute to Muslims for their political maturity and patience, qualities which greatly contributed to the country's enduring peace. He acknowledged the existence of enormous religious disparities against Muslims in education and employment when the country became independent. And that the inferior status of Muslims was so conspicuous that it could have easily been used to divide the nation. He said that attempts were indeed made to use those imbalances to disrupt the unity and solidarity of Tanzanians, but Muslims spurned them. In the second part Mwalimu Nyerere expressed his satisfaction that as he was stepping down from government leadership Tanzania had already successfully rectified whatever imbalances that existed between Christians and Muslims in education and employment.

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[SIZE=+0]Nyerere's second statement has baffled me, and I hope many other Tanzanians since. And like many Tanzanians also, I have too much respect for Mwalimu to accuse him of lying. But how could he commit such a grave factual error in his public farewell speech? There are several logical possibilities. The first one is that he sincerely believed religious imbalances had been redressed. It is a possibility which is difficult to accept. Throughout his political career Nyerere kept himself very well informed about local and international affairs. The position of Muslims in Tanzania is a subject which even the dullest students could hazard a correct answer, how could their teacher, and one who ruled the country for twenty five years, have got it so wrong? The other possibility is that Nyerere like everyone else knew that those imbalances had not been corrected and that in some cases like political appointments the Muslims were even worse off in 1985 than they were in the early sixties. Nyerere had promised Muslims in 1959 that their lowly position could only be set right after independence. After ruling the country for a quarter of a century and after acknowledging the enduring patience of Muslims throughout that long period, Nyerere found it difficult to admit his failure in that regard. But again that is very uncharacteristic of Mwalimu. Way back in 1962 Nyerere wrote Tujisahihishe. The onus of his narration in that small booklet was to underline the need for acknowledging and correcting our mistakes. And in his leadership Nyerere displayed admirable courage in admitting mistakes and even failures without equivocation. The Arusha Declaration: Ten Years After is but one example. But why was Nyerere suddenly unable or unwilling to admit failure in religious imbalances?

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[SIZE=+0]We may never know why Mwalimu made that puzzling statement but many Muslims have been forced to suspect a trace of religious prejudice against them. One can understand why in his book, Said (1998) has described that speech as a "farce". Muslims argue that Nyerere could not have possibly been ignorant of their situation. Nor could he have been embarrassed by his failure to keep his promise. For if that were the case he could have easily ignored that subject altogether as he had done throughout his rule as president. He was under no pressure to raise it. Nyerere not only raised the matter but also attempted to close the Muslim file by misrepresenting it. It was mentioned in chapter one how Nyerere, a Catholic, had vowed to do everything in his power to strengthen Catholicism in Tanzania. Was Nyerere afraid that the new president, a Muslim, would also misuse his power to strengthen Islam in the country? In any case, Nyerere had failed to fulfil his promise. Why was he now deliberately discouraging future leaders from addressing that problem? Did he believe Muslims would perpetually continue with their suffering without any bitterness? A year before Nyerere made that statement Mazrui and Tidy (1984:377-378) noted in their book, Nationalism and New States in Africa that the political leverage of Muslims in Tanzania was well below commensurate levels and that ‘Most observers do not even realise that there are more Muslims than Christians in Tanzania'. They also wrote, (and in retrospect quite prophetically) that while Tanzania had fared better in terms of religious harmony, ‘but the risk that Muslims might become increasingly discontented as they witness a disproportionate share of privilege enjoyed by Christians continue to hang over Tanzania, especially in the years which would follow the departure of Mwalimu Julius Nyerere'[/SIZE]
 
Kwaakili hiyo yenu ninayoiona hapa, nivigumu sana kwenu kuuona huo uchochezi

Sisi tumefurahi sana wewe kuanzisha hii mada, leo wengi waliokuwa hawamjui Abdulwahid Sykes wamemjuwa. Ahsante nyingi sana zikufikie popote ulipo.
 
Endeleeni kusubiri itawafuata hapo hapo vubarazani mnaposhinda mkidanganyana kupandishana makohoka ya kiburi na zandiku

Haswaa kama tunavyodanganyana na wewe hapa kwenye hii barza. Vipi umeshapata Gahwa?
 

Sasa hawa Wakristu wanafanya nini kwenye show ya Waislamu...watu ambao wewe uliwaita dramatis personae? Unaposema Mshahara wa Abdul ndio uliofadhili TAA na TANU kwani mapato ya John Rupia mapato yake yalikuwa yanachangia ngoma ya kienyeji? Kwanini unazungumza kana kwamba Abdul ndio alitoa mshahara wake peke yake kufadhili TANU?
 
Sikuwa nimeliona hili. Kitabu chake kile kilitoka miaka 30 baada ya mhusika mkuu, Abdulwahid, kuzikwa.


Of course; kama umesoma sana utaona kuwa hajaweka ushahidi hata mmoja hadi leo hii kuwa wakati Abdulwahid anafikiri alimtuhumu Nyerere kwa udini au kuwadhulumu Waislamu. Anakuja kuyaserma mambo kwa mke wa Abdul miaka mingi baadaye. Hakuna mzee wake hata mmoja kwa miaka zaidi ya thelathini ya Nyerere kuongoza aliyewahi kusema Nyerere anawadhulumu Waislamu isipokuwa kundi lile lile la baadhi yao ambao hawakutaka Mkristu ashike uongozi kwa sababu ya udini wao si kwa sababu ya jambo lolote baya alilowafanyia. Nyerere anapokuja na kuonesha heshima, staha na ushirika usio kipimo na ndugu zake Waislamu leo anaibuka mtu na kusema kuwa ati alikuwa na chuki na Waislamu.
 
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