Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

Kadogoo · Apr 8, 2013

Ami said:
Umeamua kurudia rudia vitu vidogo visivyoepukika katika uandishi ukidhani kwa kufanya hivyo unaweza ukabadili ukweli ulioganda kwenye vichwa vya waislamu baada ya kushuhudia kwa macho yao na wengi wao wakiwa hawajawahi hata kukiona hicho kitabu mnachojaribu kumpelekea Kikwete akitaje kwenye hotuba yake ya mwezi fulani ujao kabla hamjakifanyia maandamano.Aibu tupu kwenu!.
Kumbuka waislamu tuko wengi mno kuliko nakala zilizochapishwa za kitabu cha historia ya uhuru wa Tanganyika.
Nani asiyeona miongoni mwa waislamu kuwa:
1.Baraza la mitihani NECTA ni kama jimbo la kanisa na hakuna wa kulifumua hata likifanya dhulma za wazi kwa waislamu.Waziri na raisi wake wanawaogopa wakristo kuliko wanavyoheshimu waislamu wenzao na manung'uniko yao.
2.Serikali inatoa ruzuku kwa taasisi kama za mahospitali ya kanisa na kuzifanya hospitali za serikali ambako raia wote wakiwamo waislamu wangetibiwa bila kushinikizwa na kejeli za kikristo?
3.Ajira zote muhimu serikalini kuanzia ngazi za juu mpaka kata zimehodhiwa na wakristo na baadhi yao ni vihiyo kabisa?
4.Serikali imeacha kujiunga na OIC na kuanzisha mahakama ya kadhi na si kwa sababu nyengine yoyote ile bali matakwa ya makanisa tu.
5.Serikali imekaa kimya huku makanisa yakisambaza takwimu za bandia za idadi ya waislamu na wakristo Tanzania na hata waislamu walipolalamika sana hatimae serikali imetoa takwimu nyengine za bandia na kufanya visasi na waislamu?.
6.Serikali imewakalia kimya wachungaji wanaovunja kanuni juu ya uchinjaji wa wanyama kwa ajili ya biashara huku ikiwashughulikia waislamu wanaokataa kulishwa vibudu?.
Orodha ni ndefu juu ya dhulma zinazofanywa na serikali ambazo baadhi wala hazimo kwenye kitabu cha Mohammed Said,ni mpya kabisa.Kwa mfano ikiwa neno mfumokristo limewatia kiwewe basi kizazi kipya kwa kuona dhulma wanaweza kutumia neno tofauti na mpambano kati ya haki na batili ukabaki pale pale.Itaondoka kutoka christian lobby kuwa mfumokristo na kwenda neno jengine litakalowaudhi zaidi madhali tatizo lipo bado.

AMI,

Soma gazeti la Annur uone dhulma dhidi ya Waislamu na Serikali mpaka sasa haina uso wa kukanusha madai haya mazito ya Waislamu! nchi hii sijui inaelekea wapi jamani? ANNUUR 1065

Mohamed Said · Apr 9, 2013

Wickama said:
Wanajamvi: Hapa kuna Tathmini ya kitabu cha Mzee Mohammed Said, sijahangaika kuweka link kwa vile ku-access hiyo article yabidi uanachama katika maktaba na majarida husika. Italics za ndani ya review ni zangu. Kwa waliokwishaisoma popote itakuwa marudio.

BOOK REVIEWS:

MUSLIM NATIONALISTS IN TANGANYIKA: The Life and Times of Abdulwahid Sykes (1924-1968): The Untold Story of the Muslim Struggle against British Colonialism in Tanganyika. By MOHAMEDSA ID. London: Minerva Press, 1998. Pp. 358. ? 1.99, paperback (ISBN 0-754IO- 223-8). KEY WORDS: Tanzania, colonialism, nationalism, Islam.

REVIEWER: JONATHON GLASSMAN (Northwestern University): SOURCE: The Journal of African History, Vol. 42, No. 1 (2001), pp. 164-166

In recent years historians of nationalism, like historians of science, have been turning to the stories of the losers. In studies of South Asia as well as Africa, authors such as Allman, Geiger and Mbembe have sought to escape the triumphalist trap of assuming that nationalist politics were shaped solely by the men who eventually took power.

A focus on historical dead-ends can illuminate the contingencies that shaped nationalism, and can also help explain many post-colonial political conflicts. Mohamed Said's book is one such study. Its title is misleading: relatively little is about Abdulwahid Sykes, a member of a prominent Dar es Salaam family, and the book fails to substantiate Said's claim that his hero 'founded a political party [TANU] and made a President [Julius Nyerere]'.[/I] Yet the title points to the author's general approach. Using a collection of documents preserved by the Sykes family, as well as the memories of informants drawn from the author's extensive network of personal contacts, Said tells the story of Tanganyika nationalism from the Sykes family's point of view. In doing so, he creates a valuable resource for the study of colonial Dar es Salaam (a place that has received surprisingly little scholarly attention), and makes a strong case that the prevailing literature on Tanganyika nationalism, much of which is centred on the figure of Nyerere, has underestimated the contribution of Muslim townsmen and needs to be reassessed. Private sources such as Said's are often available only to interested parties rather than disinterested professional historians.

To his credit, Said opens with a forthright statement of his connection to the Sykes family (this statement itself tells the reader much about the ties of neighbourhood that sustained nationalist politics in Dar es Salaam), and he makes his polemical agenda clear throughout.

Briefly, his argument is as follows. TANU was created by Muslim townsmen, led by the Sykes brothers, who envisioned the party in 1945 while serving in the Burma Infantry. The Sykeses recruited Nyerere late in the game and made him president of the new organization in a self-sacrificing ploy to encourage Christians to join the nationalist cause. The latter were essential to success because, having been favoured by the colonial regime, they dominated the ranks of the educated elite. But the Christians were unreliable nationalists because of their indoctrination by 'the Church' (Said often assumes that all Christians were Catholic), portrayed here as a highly effective tool of colonialism. After uhuru, TANU's new Christian leaders reneged on promises they had made to keep religion and politics separate, and together with the Church plotted to rid TANU of Islamic influence. By 1970, this conspiracy was complete: TANU had been effectively wrested from the hands of the people who had created it, and had become a tool of Christian power.

Needless to add, Said is a tendentious writer. Yet remarkably little of his argument is directly contradicted by standard accounts, and, although it is impossible to evaluate his sources (footnotes are few and not always useful), he presents some fascinating new material. He is most persuasive in the two-thirds of the book that discuss the period before independence. Said surely has a point when he chastises historians for having failed to note the Islamic factor in the nationalist politics of Dar and other towns. Also valuable is his focus on Muslim-Christian tensions within TANU and its predecessor, the Tanganyika African Association (TAA): indeed, such tension was noted by observers at the time but has since failed to capture the attention of historians who perhaps have been too accepting of official myths of nationalist unity. Yet these strengths are often vitiated by the book's combative tone.

Two over argued themes, in particular, come in conflict. On the one hand, Said wishes to convince his readers that the Sykes circle created the nationalist movement virtually single-handedly and, in its early phases, totally dominated it. In this regard, he presents Nyerere in the early 1950os as an utter neophyte, a cipher who was shrewdly manipulated by Sykes and his allies. (This depiction of Nyerere as 'a complete stranger' to nationalist politics is partly a function of Said's Dar-centred perspective.) On the other hand, he perceives the history of Tanganyika nationalism as a grand struggle in which the Muslim townsmen who created the movement fought each step of the way against the wiles of their Christian enemies. These opposing themes catch Said in some absurd contradictions, such as in his narrative of the 1953 contest in which Nyerere assumed leadership of the TAA, immediately before it was transformed into TANU. That narrative portrays Nyerere simultaneously both as Sykes's tool and as his arch nemesis.

But the most troubling aspect of Said's tendentiousness consists of his portrayal of a Manichean conflict between Muslims, depicted as uniformly dedicated nationalists since the days of Maji Maji, and Christians, depicted as unsteady collaborators. That such images are often contradicted by his own rich data is all the more cause for disappointment.

Said is at his most contentious in the book's closing section, entitled 'Conspiracy against Islam'. It would be difficult to refute the core of his indictment there: TANU's misguided efforts in the late I960s to quash autonomous Islamic institutions. (This sordid tale has been told with more convincing detail, albeit on a strictly local level, by Abdin Chande.) Yet in his determination to reveal TANU's plots to impose 'Christian hegemony', Said ignores the fact that these efforts were part of a broader move to control all institutions of civil society. Still, as a statement of perceptions that are widely shared by Tanzanian Muslims, perceptions grounded in two generations of historical memory, this discussion, and Said's entire argument, should not be ignored by anyone who cares about Tanzania's future.

NAWAKILISHA[/QUOTE

Wickama,

Jonathon Glassman ni mwalimu wa James Brenan.
Jonathon tumefahamiana miaka mingi sana.

Kaandika kitabu Feats and Riots na kanipa autobiography
copy siku tulipokutana zaidi ya miaka 15 sasa.

Yeye ndiye aliyenialika chuoni kwake Northwestern University
Chicago.

Ahsante kwa kuileta review yake barazani.

Mag3 · Apr 9, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
Karibu sana Gombesugu... Inaonekana na wewe unasoma maandishi haya kwa mwanga ule ule - wa dini. Umejaribu kuwa 'balanced' mwanzoni lakini kwa kadiri muda unavyokwenda unajionesha kuwa hujali academic integrity and honesty ya mwandishi. Na badala yake umeingia kumtetea Mohammed Said solely kwa sababu ya Uislamu wake na siyo kwa kazi yake. Hili sina tatizo kwani wakati mwingine damu ni nzito kuliko maji.

Mkuu Mzee Mwanakijiji, kweli hukujua kuwa at some stage katika mjadala, itabidi akina Gombesugu wajitokeze? Kama alivyowahi kusema Geofrey Chaucer katika kitabu chake "The Parson's Tale" mwaka 1390...

"And ofte tyme swich cursynge wrongfully retorneth agayn to hym that curseth, as a bryd that retorneth agayn to his owene nest"

au kwa Kiingereza cha sasa zaidi ya miaka 700 baadaye...

"Curses are like young chicken: they always come home to roost."

Kulijitokeza hatari ya jahazi kuzama na hivyo kulihitajika watu wawili tu waongezeke ili namba iwe tatu,(a threesome!) Natangaza kwamba namba imetimia lakini je jahazi litaokoka?

Haya, wengine tumesema ya kwetu na sasa tuangalie book reviewers wengine waliovisoma vitabu vya Mohamed Said nao wanasemaje...Hapa Wickama katuletea vipande vya maoni ya reviewer moja kuhusiana na kitabu cha Mohamed Said alichokisoma kama hivi;

Its title is misleading: relatively little is about Abdulwahid Sykes, a member of a prominent Dar es Salaam family, and the book fails to substantiate Said's claim that his hero 'founded a political party [TANU] and made a President [Julius Nyerere]'

To his credit, Said opens with a forthright statement of his connection to the Sykes family

Said tells the story of Tanganyika nationalism from the Sykes family's point of view.

Briefly, his argument is as follows. TANU was created by Muslim townsmen, led by the Sykes brothers, who envisioned the party in 1945 while serving in the Burma Infantry.

The Sykeses recruited Nyerere late in the game and made him president of the new organization in a self-sacrificing ploy to encourage Christians to join the nationalist cause.

On the one hand, Said wishes to convince his readers that the Sykes circle created the nationalist movement virtually single-handedly and, in its early phases, totally dominated it. In this regard, he presents Nyerere in the early 1950os as an utter neophyte, a cipher who was shrewdly manipulated by Sykes and his allies.

On the other hand, he perceives the history of Tanganyika nationalism as a grand struggle in which the Muslim townsmen who created the movement fought each step of the way against the wiles of their Christian enemies.

These opposing themes catch Said in some absurd contradictions, such as in his narrative of the 1953 contest in which Nyerere assumed leadership of the TAA, immediately before it was transformed into TANU. That narrative portrays Nyerere simultaneously both as Sykes's tool and as his arch nemesis.

Yet in his determination to reveal TANU's plots to impose 'Christian hegemony', Said ignores the fact that these efforts were part of a broader move to control all institutions of civil society.

Je na huyu book reviewer naye ataambiwa aandike kitabu cha kwake?

THE BIG SHOW · Apr 9, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
Karibu sana Gombesugu...

Inaonekana na wewe unasoma maandishi haya kwa mwanga ule ule - wa dini. Umejaribu kuwa 'balanced' mwanzoni lakini kwa kadiri muda unavyokwenda unajionesha kuwa hujali academic integrity and honesty ya mwandishi. Na badala yake umeingia kumtetea Mohammed Said solely kwa sababu ya Uislamu wake na siyo kwa kazi yake. Hili sina tatizo kwani wakati mwingine damu ni nzito kuliko maji.

Ndugu Gombesugu, hatubishani kuhusu maoni ya mtu; kwani maoni ya mtu ni maoni yake. Tunabishana kuhusu some facts. Inasikitisha kuwa unaamini kazi ya Mohammed Said imefanyiwa "thoroughly researched" na "closely scrutinized". Kama kweli unaamini haya basi na wewe umeingia kwenye mtego ule ule wa kuamini hisia za mtu kuhusu historia kuwa ni facts za historia! Tunabishana na Mohammed SAid kuhusu facts sir, siyo hisia zake kuhusu hizo facts.

1. Mohammed Said anadai kuwa Nyerere aliingia siasa mwaka 1952 na kuwa aliingia siasa na uongozi wa TAA baada ya kuingizwa na Abdulwahid Sykes - hapa hadai maoni anadai facts. Tumeonesha kuwa Nyerere alianza siasa miaka karibu 10 nyuma na wakati anakuja Dar tayari alishapata kuwa kiongozi wa TAA huko Tabora na alishaanzisha chama cha kutetea maslahi ya Watanganyika akiwa Makerere (kabla ya kukutana na Abdulwahid Sykes karibu miaka saba nyuma. Hili ni suala la facts Gombesugu siyo opinion! Mohammed Said was/is factually wrong.

2. Mohammed Said anadai kuwa Philip Marmo alikuwa ni mbunge wa Monduli wakati wa sakata la OIC mwanzoni mwa miaka ya tisini; tumeonesha kuwa Marmo hajawahi kuwa Mbunge wa Monduli; hili siyo suala la maoni Gombesugu ni suala la facts. Mohammed Said was/is factually wrong!

3. Mohammed Said amekuwa akidai kuwa Kanisa halikuhusika katika harakati za Uhuru na kuwa halikutoa mchango wowote kwani Wakristu walikuwa wanafaidika na Ukoloni. Imeoneshwa humu kuwa Wakristu wengi tu walishiriki harakati za Ukoloni na waliupinga sehemu mbalimbali nchini na hata wao pia kutoa misaada kuchangia TANU. HIli siyo suala la maoni ndugu Gombesugu, ni suala la facts; Mohammed Said was/is factually wrong!

4. Mohammed Said amekuwa akidai kwua Nyerere alikuwa na chuki na Waislamu na Uislamu; hadi leo hii hakuna mahalipo popote ambapo ameonesha ushahidi wa jambo lolote Nyerere alilolisema au kulifanya lenye kuonesha chuki ya Nyerere dhidi ya Waislamu. Lakini amejaza ushahidi lukuki wa mahusiano ya karibu ya Nyerere na Waislamu kabla na baada ya Uhuru. Mohammed Said was/is factually wrong!

5. Mohammed Said amedai kuwa kile alichokiita 'Christian Lobby" ndio kinaendesha nchi na kuwa ndio leo kinaitwa "Mfumo KRistu" ambao unawabagua Waislamu. Mohammed Said ameshindwa vibaya kuonesha jinsi gani mfumo wa kibaguzi unatoa nafasi kwa wale wanaobaguliwa kushika madaraka na nafasi mbalimbali. Hili halijawahi kutokea mahali popote duniani ambapo mfumo wa kIbaguzi ulitengeneza na kuwapa nafasi wale wanaobaguliwa huku mfumo huo ukifanya kazi! Mohammed Said is/was factually wrong.

Gombesugu, tunaweza kuendelea na kuangalia 'facts' ambazo Mohammed Said amekuwa akizidai na kuonesha ni kwanini hazina ukweli wa kihistoria. Kwa wewe kuamini kuwa maandisshi yake yamefanyiwa "thoroughly" research inashangaza; labda neno thoroughly researched limepoteza maana.

Ridiculous,Very Very Ridiculous..
Yale yale ya paka wa kwenye kumbi za Ma - Bar wapenda vya bwerere,anachokifanya hapa huyu Mzee mfia dini ni kudokoa dokoa hoja ambazo yeye anaziamin anaweza kuzisimamia kukanusha yale yoote yaliyotafitiwa na kusemwa na Moh Said,tumuulize sasa,aliyonayo ni hayo tuh??mengine yaliyoandikwa na kwa rejea mbali mbali alizopewa hajaziona??
Ikumbukwe huyu ni miongoni mwa wale wanaoutumia UKRISTO Katika maandiko yake mengi,tena kwa njia ya indirect way ili kumpinga Moh Said,wenye kuling'amua hilo tumeling'amua..
Huyu ni miongoni mwa wale waliokosa busara na kumkejeli Moh Said et ya kwamba anaoga uchi na watoto wadogo,huku akijinasibisha kuwa ni Great thinker na mwandishi aliekamilika wa kuandika makala au kitabu na watu wenye akili zao wakakaa chini na kumsoma,ana maana huyu??
Na ndio kwa maana vijana wa mjini tuna msemo unaosema ukimuona Mzee kakosa busara kias na KUFIKIA HATUA YA KUVALIA SURUALI CHINI YA KIUNO DAWA YAKE KAMA UNAMUONA HATAKI KUIPANDISHA MARA BAADA YA KUMSIHI SANA NI KUIPANDISHA SURUALI ILE KWA NGUVU.,ILI KUMLINDIA HESHIMA YAKE..
A clown like Mwanakijiji cant play the part of a wise man like Moh Said,but A Wise man like Moh Said can play the part of A clown like Mwanakijiji..
Tunataka watuthibitishie uchochez wa Moh Said uko wapi??
Uchochez wake umepatikana baada ya kuyaeleza yale yaliyofichikana??

THE BIG SHOW · Apr 9, 2013

Mag3 said:
Mkuu Mzee Mwanakijiji, kweli hukujua kuwa at some stage katika mjadala, itabidi akina Gombesugu wajitokeze? Kama alivyowahi kusema Geofrey Chaucer katika kitabu chake "The Parson's Tale" mwaka 1390...au kwa Kiingereza cha sasa zaidi ya miaka 700 baadaye...
Kulijitokeza hatari ya jahazi kuzama na hivyo kulihitajika watu wawili tu waongezeke ili namba iwe tatu,(a threesome!) Natangaza kwamba namba imetimia lakini je jahazi litaokoka?

Haya, wengine tumesema ya kwetu na sasa tuangalie book reviewers wengine waliovisoma vitabu vya Mohamed Said nao wanasemaje...Hapa Wickama katuletea vipande vya maoni ya reviewer moja kuhusiana na kitabu cha Mohamed Said alichokisoma kama hivi;

Je na huyu book reviewer naye ataambiwa aandike kitabu cha kwake?

Whatever..
Aandike asiandike ni juu yake,lakini akiandika akafanikiwa kuishawish jamii juu ya ukweli kuhusu historia ya wale waliofichwa kwa makusudi atakuwa kafanya jambo la maana sana..
alichokifanya huyo book reviwer wako ni kama vile kutwanga maji kwenye kinu,kusema ya kwamba Moh Said kaitazama historia ya Tanganyika from Sykes family point of view ni ukanjanja wake tuh,kwani Moh Said kalificha hilo??
Moh Said kalieleza hilo wazi wazi ya kwamba yeye kaeleza historia ya wazee wake anaowafaham na alioishi nao na mchango wao katika harakati za ukombozi wa taifa hili ambazo kwa makusudi kabisa zilifichwa..
na sisi tumezipima na kuzikubali,ni maona yenu na mnaweza pia kuwa sahihi mkisema ya kwamba sisi tumekubali kwa nia ya kupigana jihad n,k n,k.,mnaweza pia kuwa sahihi,si ni mawazo na fikra zenu zinawatuma kuamini hivyo??sasa kwa nini tuwapinge,tujaalie kama Moh Said angeamua kukaa kimya na asiseme yale anayoyajua,wengine tungeyajulia wapi??
wacha tuh ukweli usemwe na watu waupime,msilazimishe watu waupinge,nyinyi andiken kile mnachokifaham na Moh Said aandike kile anachokifaham mwisho wa siku hadhira itaangalia na kuamua kuchagua upande..

Mag3 · Apr 9, 2013

THE BIG SHOW said:
Ridiculous,Very Very Ridiculous...
Tunataka watuthibitishie uchochez wa Moh Said uko wapi??
Uchochez wake umepatikana baada ya kuyaeleza yale yaliyofichikana??

Kwa hiyo wewe THE BIG SHOW, unakubaliana na Mohamed Said kuwa serikali ya CCM inaendeshwa kwa MfumoKristo na kuwa Mkuu wa serikali hiyo ambaye ni Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete si Muislaam safi. Katika msingi huo huo viongozi wa BAKWATA nao si Waislaam safi kwa sababu wanaendesha chombo hicho Kikafiri na katika msingi huo huo Waislaam waliopo CCM si wasafi kwa sababu wanashirikiana na makafiri.

Unajua THE BIG SHOW, mwaka 1958 walikuwepo wazee wenu waliokuwa na mawazo kama hayo hayo...waliiangalia TANU kwa misingi hiyo hiyo ya udini ila tofauti na Mohamed Said walichukua hatua, waliiacha TANU na kuunda chama cha Kiislaam (AMNUT) ili waweze kuachana kabisa na makafiri. Hata hivyo Waislaam wasio safi hawakuwaunga mkono wenzao, walibaki ndani ya TANU wakishirikiana na makafiri.

Bahati mbaya tofauti hii kati ya Waislaam safi na wasio safi bado inaendelea hadi sasa na leo Waislaam wasio safi wanaongoza serikali wakishirikiana na makafiri. Waislaam wasafi wanaunga mkono madai ya Mohamed Said kwa sababu usafi wa Muislaam na mahusiano yake na kafiri, kwa lugha ya hesabu ni indirectly proportional...unavyozidi kuwa Muislaam safi ndivyo unavyotakiwa kukaa mbali zaidi na makafiri.

Hivyo ndivyo ingetakiwa iwe lakini ajabu ni kwamba sivyo ilivyo! Mwaka 2010 Waislaam safi walihamasisha Waislaam wote bila kujali wako kundi gani kuichagua CCM. Walikubali kumchagua kiongozi yule yule ambaye kwa miaka mitano nyuma, alisimamia uendeshaji wa mfumo wa kikafiri, MfumoKristo! Na hivi leo vyombo vyote vya dola vinaendelea kuwa mikononi mwa CCM na serikali yake, vikiendelea kuwakandamiza Waislaam!

Namalizia kwa kumnukuu mwandishi Mtanzania;

Godfrey Mwakikagile said:
What should not be ignored or glossed over is the fact that there were people in every tribe or ethnic group, in every district, every province and every religion including African traditional religions, who fought for the rights of Africans long before TANU was formed and after it was formed. They all wanted to end colonial rule.

And they all struggled together, not as Moslems or as Christians, not as Chagas, Sukumas, Ngonis, Zaramos, Kingas, Hehes, Nyakyusas, Makndes, Matengos, Hayas, Nyasas, Digos, Pares, Bondeis, Ziguas, Sambaas, Nyaturus, Manyemas, Nyamwezis, Yaos, Lugurus, or as Gogos; they fought together as Tanganyikans who loved their country and united in their quest for freedom and independence from colonial rule.

No-one deserves more credit than others. They all deserve credit equal credit. And they were all nationalists and patriots, not religious bigots or tribalists.

THE BIG SHOW · Apr 9, 2013

Mag3 said:
Kwa hiyo wewe THE BIG SHOW, unakubaliana na Mohamed Said kuwa serikali ya CCM inaendeshwa kwa MfumoKristo na kuwa Mkuu wa serikali hiyo ambaye ni Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete si Muislaam safi. Katika msingi huo huo viongozi wa BAKWATA nao si Waislaam safi kwa sababu wanaendesha chombo hicho Kikafiri na katika msingi huo huo Waislaam waliopo CCM si wasafi kwa sababu wanashirikiana na makafiri.

Unajua THE BIG SHOW, mwaka 1958 walikuwepo wazee wenu waliokuwa na mawazo kama hayo hayo...waliiangalia TANU kwa misingi hiyo hiyo ya udini ila tofauti na Mohamed Said walichukua hatua, waliiacha TANU na kuunda chama cha Kiislaam (AMNUT) ili waweze kuachana kabisa na makafiri. Hata hivyo Waislaam wasio safi hawakuwaunga mkono wenzao, walibaki ndani ya TANU wakishirikiana na makafiri.

Bahati mbaya tofauti hii kati ya Waislaam safi na wasio safi bado inaendelea hadi sasa na leo Waislaam wasio safi wanaongoza serikali wakishirikiana na makafiri. Waislaam wasafi wanaunga mkono madai ya Mohamed Said kwa sababu usafi wa Muislaam na mahusiano yake na kafiri, kwa lugha ya hesabu ni indirectly proportional...unavyozidi kuwa Muislaam safi ndivyo unavyotakiwa kukaa mbali zaidi na makafiri.

Hivyo ndivyo ingetakiwa iwe lakini ajabu ni kwamba sivyo ilivyo! Mwaka 2010 Waislaam safi walihamasisha Waislaam wote bila kujali wako kundi gani kuichagua CCM. Walikubali kumchagua kiongozi yule yule ambaye kwa miaka mitano nyuma, alisimamia uendeshaji wa mfumo wa kikafiri, MfumoKristo! Na hivi leo vyombo vyote vya dola vinaendelea kuwa mikononi mwa CCM na serikali yake, vikiendelea kuwakandamiza Waislaam!

Mag3
wewe bado hujaelewa,wale wazee walikuwa hawapiganii kuja kuisimamisha dola ya kiislam ndani ya ardhi ya tanzania,ndio kwa maana wakampa nafas julius ambae si muislam kusimama kama kiongoz na aje kuwa kiunganish kwa watanzania wote..
wangekua wanataka kuismamisha dola ya kiislam,au wangekuwa wana nia ya kupigana jihadi wangetafuta mwakilishi mwingine ambae ni muislam asimamie hoja zao..
kitu kinachozungumzwa hapa ni kugeukwa kwa baadhi ya watu na historia zao kufichwa kwa makusudi,ndipo hoja inakuja walipuuzwa kwa nini??kwa kuwa wao ni waislam??mbona hoja kuu tokea harakati za uhuru wa mtanganyika ilikuwa ni kumwondoa mkoloini??sasa kwa nini wengine wakuzwe na wengine wapuuzwe?
kwanin baadh ya upande katika nchi hii upewe nafas kama first class citizens na upande mwingine upewe kama second class citizens?najua unazijua hizo pande mbili nazozizungmzia hapa..
kwa hiyo narudi kwenye mantiq kuu,haya yanayotokea sasa na tuyaonayo yalitokea na yanatokea kwa sababu ambazo zilikuwapo na zipo tokea zamani,tatizo nyinyi hamtaki kukubali ili tuangalie suluhisho la kuganga yajayo..!
tutafikaje??oooh Moh Said mchochezii mchocheziii,,anaoga na watotooo,anaoga na watotoo,ndio nini sasa??
watu hawataacha kusema ukweli wanaofaham eti kwa kuhofia wataonekana kama ni mujahidina na watu wa madrasa au wapenda ubwabwa na wachochezi,ukweli utasemwa tuh..
Moh Said hana interests na siasa hapa,ila hawezi kuacha siasa hizi hizi ziingilie na kuathiri maisha ya wale wanaonekana kufuata mila za uislam,hiyo ndiyo hoja kuu,na iko wazi kabisa bila haya bila soni...

THE BIG SHOW · Apr 9, 2013

Mag3 said:
Kwa hiyo wewe THE BIG SHOW, unakubaliana na Mohamed Said kuwa serikali ya CCM inaendeshwa kwa MfumoKristo na kuwa Mkuu wa serikali hiyo ambaye ni Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete si Muislaam safi. Katika msingi huo huo viongozi wa BAKWATA nao si Waislaam safi kwa sababu wanaendesha chombo hicho Kikafiri na katika msingi huo huo Waislaam waliopo CCM si wasafi kwa sababu wanashirikiana na makafiri.

Unajua THE BIG SHOW, mwaka 1958 walikuwepo wazee wenu waliokuwa na mawazo kama hayo hayo...waliiangalia TANU kwa misingi hiyo hiyo ya udini ila tofauti na Mohamed Said walichukua hatua, waliiacha TANU na kuunda chama cha Kiislaam (AMNUT) ili waweze kuachana kabisa na makafiri. Hata hivyo Waislaam wasio safi hawakuwaunga mkono wenzao, walibaki ndani ya TANU wakishirikiana na makafiri.

Bahati mbaya tofauti hii kati ya Waislaam safi na wasio safi bado inaendelea hadi sasa na leo Waislaam wasio safi wanaongoza serikali wakishirikiana na makafiri. Waislaam wasafi wanaunga mkono madai ya Mohamed Said kwa sababu usafi wa Muislaam na mahusiano yake na kafiri, kwa lugha ya hesabu ni indirectly proportional...unavyozidi kuwa Muislaam safi ndivyo unavyotakiwa kukaa mbali zaidi na makafiri.

Hivyo ndivyo ingetakiwa iwe lakini ajabu ni kwamba sivyo ilivyo! Mwaka 2010 Waislaam safi walihamasisha Waislaam wote bila kujali wako kundi gani kuichagua CCM. Walikubali kumchagua kiongozi yule yule ambaye kwa miaka mitano nyuma, alisimamia uendeshaji wa mfumo wa kikafiri, MfumoKristo! Na hivi leo vyombo vyote vya dola vinaendelea kuwa mikononi mwa CCM na serikali yake, vikiendelea kuwakandamiza Waislaam!

Namalizia kwa kumnukuu mwandishi Mtanzania;

NIKIICHUKUA NUKUU YAKO HII..
Namalizia kwa kumnukuu mwandishi Mtanzania;

By Godfrey Mwakikagile
What should not be ignored or glossed over is the fact that there were people in every tribe or ethnic group, in every district, every province and every religion including African traditional religions, who fought for the rights of Africans long before TANU was formed and after it was formed. They all wanted to end colonial rule.

And they all struggled together, not as Moslems or as Christians, not as Chagas, Sukumas, Ngonis, Zaramos, Kingas, Hehes, Nyakyusas, Makndes, Matengos, Hayas, Nyasas, Digos, Pares, Bondeis, Ziguas, Sambaas, Nyaturus, Manyemas, Nyamwezis, Yaos, Lugurus, or as Gogos; they fought together as Tanganyikans who loved their country and united in their quest for freedom and independence from colonial rule.

No-one deserves more credit than others. They all deserve credit – equal credit. And they were all nationalists and patriots, not religious bigots or tribalists

Hicho ndicho hasa hata moh said anachokisimamia,kaamua nayy kuandika ili uone watu walivokajitolea kuipigania nchi hii na kujitoa kwa hali na mali ili mkoloni aondoke katika nchi hii,ila sasa cha kushangaza wakaja kufutwa bila kuenziwa kama walivoenziwa wengine eti tuh kwa kuwa wao wanaonekana kama wanalandana na uislam na waislam..
yanaposemwa hayo,wewe na majeshi yako mnakuja kusema kuwa ni uzushi na uchochezi..

Geeky · Apr 9, 2013

THE BIG SHOW said:
Mag3
wewe bado hujaelewa,wale wazee walikuwa hawapiganii kuja kuisimamisha dola ya kiislam ndani ya ardhi ya tanzania,ndio kwa maana wakampa nafas julius ambae si muislam kusimama kama kiongoz na aje kuwa kiunganish kwa watanzania wote..
wangekua wanataka kuismamisha dola ya kiislam,au wangekuwa wana nia ya kupigana jihadi wangetafuta mwakilishi mwingine ambae ni muislam asimamie hoja zao..
kitu kinachozungumzwa hapa ni kugeukwa kwa baadhi ya watu na historia zao kufichwa kwa makusudi,ndipo hoja inakuja walipuuzwa kwa nini??kwa kuwa wao ni waislam??mbona hoja kuu tokea harakati za uhuru wa mtanganyika ilikuwa ni kumwondoa mkoloini??sasa kwa nini wengine wakuzwe na wengine wapuuzwe?
kwanin baadh ya upande katika nchi hii upewe nafas kama first class citizens na upande mwingine upewe kama second class citizens?najua unazijua hizo pande mbili nazozizungmzia hapa..
kwa hiyo narudi kwenye mantiq kuu,haya yanayotokea sasa na tuyaonayo yalitokea na yanatokea kwa sababu ambazo zilikuwapo na zipo tokea zamani,tatizo nyinyi hamtaki kukubali ili tuangalie suluhisho la kuganga yajayo..!
tutafikaje??oooh Moh Said mchochezii mchocheziii,,anaoga na watotooo,anaoga na watotoo,ndio nini sasa??
watu hawataacha kusema ukweli wanaofaham eti kwa kuhofia wataonekana kama ni mujahidina na watu wa madrasa au wapenda ubwabwa na wachochezi,ukweli utasemwa tuh..
Moh Said hana interests na siasa hapa,ila hawezi kuacha siasa hizi hizi ziingilie na kuathiri maisha ya wale wanaonekana kufuata mila za uislam,hiyo ndiyo hoja kuu,na iko wazi kabisa bila haya bila soni...

Ukweli ni kwamba hakuna wanaonekana kama first class citizens na wale second. hizo nazo ni hisia tu na tunda la kusoma maandiko hayo. kuna jambo gani linaonesha kuwa hao wazee wanapata second class citizenship treatment? Is it constitutional? Where then? In fact these unfounded allegations are what is sinister in essence. bad treatment if any, is never to be judged or concluded by Moh himself. what he (Moh) calls the 'forgoten history of tz' kama kweli anatuletea historia au kilichosahaulika katika historia asiwe conclusive hasa na yeye mwenyewe hiyo inaonesha wazi kwamba Moh kwa kufanya hivyo at the very least is biased or religiously inclined towards his own faith while he expects a secular debate. ndiposa tunapouliza hii historia ya bongo - has it now been lowered to such standards au? Yaani mtu atuletee account ya wazee wake wanavyoiona au harakati zao akaziita historia! There is nothing special about what he is telling us here and after all these years its no news and the only perculiarity is that it cuts cross-grain with our history as we know it (on religious grounds of course). He's clearly shown a biased approach and thus continues to prove unfit to give us a fair account of events : if he will write a historical account and there are such accounts [like Howard Zinn's ~ A People's History of the United States] he has to be agnostic about what he is writing at the very least. Plus, the fact that there is already a significant amount of criticism to the subject matter itself from many here at the forum about his account of events, is very alarming and suggests mallice and were this a formal review he would face an unprecedented and insurmountable barage of serious professional sanctions from the accademic society in this country and beyond for failure to either denounce, dispell or concede on the criticism.

Geeky · Apr 9, 2013

mfumo said:
Juzi nimemsikia mzee wa upako anasema wachungaji kumi wameacha kazi ya uchungaji kwa kuwa hakuna waumini wanaowasapoti. Pia kuna kanisa moja mwenyewe kaliuza kakimbia nchi. Nimefurahi watu wanaamka sasa, wanayakimbia makanisa. Nadhani Ukristo unaelekea kuzama/kufa tanzania kama ilivyo nchi za ulaya. Lakini uislamu unazidi kukuwa.Muislamu yoyote kwanza dini yake. Dini kwa muislamu ni muhimu sana kuliko chochote.Hii ni kwa sababu dini ndio itakayomuokoa na adhabu za allah huko twendako kwenye maisha ya kudumu/milele. Naomba kufikisha ujumbe wangu kwa wasiokuwa waislamu wote. Akhera hamtatambulika na dini zenu hizo. Ni kuchomwa tu ambapo mtakuwa kuni nyinyi na mawe. nishafikisha ujumbe. Jisalimisheni kabla ya kifo.

we are a 2.3bn strong over 1/3 of the world population and for 2k years christianity has been around.

**
Christianity is the predominant religion in-Europe,Russia,-the Americas, the-Philippines,-East Timor,Southern Africa,-Central Africa,-East Africa-and Oceania.There are also large Christian communities in other parts of the world, such asCentral Asia-and the-Middle East, where Christianity is the second-largest religion after Islam

source : wikipedia

Mzee Mwanakijiji · Apr 9, 2013

Ami said:
Nani asiyeona miongoni mwa waislamu kuwa:
1.Baraza la mitihani NECTA ni kama jimbo la kanisa na hakuna wa kulifumua hata likifanya dhulma za wazi kwa waislamu.Waziri na raisi wake wanawaogopa wakristo kuliko wanavyoheshimu waislamu wenzao na manung'uniko yao.
2.Serikali inatoa ruzuku kwa taasisi kama za mahospitali ya kanisa na kuzifanya hospitali za serikali ambako raia wote wakiwamo waislamu wangetibiwa bila kushinikizwa na kejeli za kikristo?
3.Ajira zote muhimu serikalini kuanzia ngazi za juu mpaka kata zimehodhiwa na wakristo na baadhi yao ni vihiyo kabisa?
4.Serikali imeacha kujiunga na OIC na kuanzisha mahakama ya kadhi na si kwa sababu nyengine yoyote ile bali matakwa ya makanisa tu.
5.Serikali imekaa kimya huku makanisa yakisambaza takwimu za bandia za idadi ya waislamu na wakristo Tanzania na hata waislamu walipolalamika sana hatimae serikali imetoa takwimu nyengine za bandia na kufanya visasi na waislamu?.
6.Serikali imewakalia kimya wachungaji wanaovunja kanuni juu ya uchinjaji wa wanyama kwa ajili ya biashara huku ikiwashughulikia waislamu wanaokataa kulishwa vibudu?.
Orodha ni ndefu juu ya dhulma zinazofanywa na serikali ambazo baadhi wala hazimo kwenye kitabu cha Mohammed Said,ni mpya kabisa.Kwa mfano ikiwa neno mfumokristo limewatia kiwewe basi kizazi kipya kwa kuona dhulma wanaweza kutumia neno tofauti na mpambano kati ya haki na batili ukabaki pale pale.Itaondoka kutoka christian lobby kuwa mfumokristo na kwenda neno jengine litakalowaudhi zaidi madhali tatizo lipo bado.

Hahaha inabidi ukajifune mantiq; yote uliyoandika yanatoka kwenye hisia. Hayana msingi katika ukweli. Kama unaona tatizo ni serikali ipinge na kipinge chama kilichounda serikali hiyo...

Mzee Mwanakijiji · Apr 9, 2013

THE BIG SHOW said:
Hicho ndicho hasa hata moh said anachokisimamia,kaamua nayy kuandika ili uone watu walivokajitolea kuipigania nchi hii na kujitoa kwa hali na mali ili mkoloni aondoke katika nchi hii,ila sasa cha kushangaza wakaja kufutwa bila kuenziwa kama walivoenziwa wengine eti tuh kwa kuwa wao wanaonekana kama wanalandana na uislam na waislam..
yanaposemwa hayo,wewe na majeshi yako mnakuja kusema kuwa ni uzushi na uchochezi..

Inaonekana hujamsoma Mohammed Said au unasoma kwa kurukaruka kama panzi kwenye mahindi yaliyokauka!

Mohamed Said · Apr 9, 2013

THE BIG SHOW said:
Whatever..
Aandike asiandike ni juu yake,lakini akiandika akafanikiwa kuishawish jamii juu ya ukweli kuhusu historia ya wale waliofichwa kwa makusudi atakuwa kafanya jambo la maana sana..
alichokifanya huyo book reviwer wako ni kama vile kutwanga maji kwenye kinu,kusema ya kwamba Moh Said kaitazama historia ya Tanganyika from Sykes family point of view ni ukanjanja wake tuh,kwani Moh Said kalificha hilo??
Moh Said kalieleza hilo wazi wazi ya kwamba yeye kaeleza historia ya wazee wake anaowafaham na alioishi nao na mchango wao katika harakati za ukombozi wa taifa hili ambazo kwa makusudi kabisa zilifichwa..
na sisi tumezipima na kuzikubali,ni maona yenu na mnaweza pia kuwa sahihi mkisema ya kwamba sisi tumekubali kwa nia ya kupigana jihad n,k n,k.,mnaweza pia kuwa sahihi,si ni mawazo na fikra zenu zinawatuma kuamini hivyo??sasa kwa nini tuwapinge,tujaalie kama Moh Said angeamua kukaa kimya na asiseme yale anayoyajua,wengine tungeyajulia wapi??
wacha tuh ukweli usemwe na watu waupime,msilazimishe watu waupinge,nyinyi andiken kile mnachokifaham na Moh Said aandike kile anachokifaham mwisho wa siku hadhira itaangalia na kuamua kuchagua upande..

The Big Show,
Nani wakumwambia Jonathon Glassman kuandika kitabu?

Yeye ana vitabu na paper kadhaa kuhusu historia ya Afrika.

Glassman kila mwanafunzi wake anaeandika kuhusu Islam
and Politics pale Northwestern University moja ya kitabu
anachompa katika reading list ni kitabu changu.

Mmoja wa wanafunzi hao ni James Brenan ambae sasa
ni bingwa wa historia ya Tanganyika.
Hivi sasa anaandika kitabu cha Oscar Kambona.

Ndugu yetu hajui mengi kuhusu mimi kafunikwa na chuki.

Mimi na Glassman tumekaa ukumbi mmoja na tukamjadili
marehemu Abdulwahid Sykes ndani ya chuo anachosomesha
tena kwa mwaliko wa chuo chake.

Tukisikilizwa.

Mwisho wengi walikubaliana na mimi kuwa Abdu Sykes alikuwa
mzalendo ambae hakustahili kusahauliwa.

Mohamed Said · Apr 9, 2013

THE BIG SHOW said:
Whatever..
Aandike asiandike ni juu yake,lakini akiandika akafanikiwa kuishawish jamii juu ya ukweli kuhusu historia ya wale waliofichwa kwa makusudi atakuwa kafanya jambo la maana sana..
alichokifanya huyo book reviwer wako ni kama vile kutwanga maji kwenye kinu,kusema ya kwamba Moh Said kaitazama historia ya Tanganyika from Sykes family point of view ni ukanjanja wake tuh,kwani Moh Said kalificha hilo??
Moh Said kalieleza hilo wazi wazi ya kwamba yeye kaeleza historia ya wazee wake anaowafaham na alioishi nao na mchango wao katika harakati za ukombozi wa taifa hili ambazo kwa makusudi kabisa zilifichwa..
na sisi tumezipima na kuzikubali,ni maona yenu na mnaweza pia kuwa sahihi mkisema ya kwamba sisi tumekubali kwa nia ya kupigana jihad n,k n,k.,mnaweza pia kuwa sahihi,si ni mawazo na fikra zenu zinawatuma kuamini hivyo??sasa kwa nini tuwapinge,tujaalie kama Moh Said angeamua kukaa kimya na asiseme yale anayoyajua,wengine tungeyajulia wapi??
wacha tuh ukweli usemwe na watu waupime,msilazimishe watu waupinge,nyinyi andiken kile mnachokifaham na Moh Said aandike kile anachokifaham mwisho wa siku hadhira itaangalia na kuamua kuchagua upande..

The Big Show,
Nina mengi lakini sikiza hii.

Siku kabla ya mimi kuzungumza pale University of Ohio prof mmoja
akanialika chakula cha mchana pamoja na bingwa mwingine wa historia
ya Afrika.

Waamerika wana msemo: There is no free lunch in America.
Msemo huu unaifahamu siku nyingi.

Naam.

Katikati ya chakula akanichomekea akasema: Unajua Mohamed
hapa Amerika hawezi kuja mtu na akasifia Uislam hicho ni kitu
hakikubaliki kabisa...mtu atapata shida sana.

Sikubadili msimamo wangu.
Kesho yake nikazungumza kama nilivyozoea kuzungumza.

Kidole machoni...
Yapo mengi.

Nguruvi3 · Apr 9, 2013

Mwisho wengi walikubaliana na mimi kuwa Abdu Sykes alikuwa
mzalendo.

Jamani mnakasha kitu kizuri.
Leo Moddy kaamka kwa namna tofauti kabisa.
Kwanza amekubali kuwa Nyerere alijulikana TAA hata kabla ya kuonana na Abdul.
Sasa anakubali kuwa Abdul ni Mzalendo. Yaani kamweka Abdul katika nafasi yake halisi na si ile ya kumsingizia.

Thank you Mo. This is a big milestone.

Ritz · Apr 9, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
Hahaha inabidi ukajifune mantiq; yote uliyoandika yanatoka kwenye hisia. Hayana msingi katika ukweli. Kama unaona tatizo ni serikali ipinge na kipinge chama kilichounda serikali hiyo...

Hivi kujua wanaokula vizuri keki ya taifa ni Wakirsto ni hisia tu kweli damu nzito...

Angalia "Ratio" ya Waislam na Wakirsto katika idara za serikali zote wizara mashirika ya umma toka kwa mkoloni mpaka leo wamejaa Wakirsto wengi Waislam wachache waliopo huko wanaonekana kama wanafanyiwa hisani tu.

Wewe fikra zako siku zote dhidi Waislam na mtazamo wako ni kuwa hakuna jambo baya lolote ambalo wameishafanyiwa Waislam na serikali dhulma kwako huwa wanafanyiwa Chadema tu pamoja na Maaskofu, mpaka ukafikia wakati ukatoa ushauri kwa Pengo atoe tamko dhidi ya serikali.

Nakuombea dua sana Allah hakupe umri mrefu na muda uandike kitabu cha kumpinga Mohamed Said kama ulivyosema kuwa ni kazi rahisi kuandika kitabu cha kupinga tatizo muda hauna.

Jasusi · Apr 9, 2013

THE BIG SHOW said:
NIKIICHUKUA NUKUU YAKO HII..
Namalizia kwa kumnukuu mwandishi Mtanzania;

By Godfrey Mwakikagile
What should not be ignored or glossed over is the fact that there were people in every tribe or ethnic group, in every district, every province and every religion including African traditional religions, who fought for the rights of Africans long before TANU was formed and after it was formed. They all wanted to end colonial rule.

And they all struggled together, not as Moslems or as Christians, not as Chagas, Sukumas, Ngonis, Zaramos, Kingas, Hehes, Nyakyusas, Makndes, Matengos, Hayas, Nyasas, Digos, Pares, Bondeis, Ziguas, Sambaas, Nyaturus, Manyemas, Nyamwezis, Yaos, Lugurus, or as Gogos; they fought together as Tanganyikans who loved their country and united in their quest for freedom and independence from colonial rule.

No-one deserves more credit than others. They all deserve credit equal credit. And they were all nationalists and patriots, not religious bigots or tribalists

Hicho ndicho hasa hata moh said anachokisimamia,kaamua nayy kuandika ili uone watu walivokajitolea kuipigania nchi hii na kujitoa kwa hali na mali ili mkoloni aondoke katika nchi hii,ila sasa cha kushangaza wakaja kufutwa bila kuenziwa kama walivoenziwa wengine eti tuh kwa kuwa wao wanaonekana kama wanalandana na uislam na waislam..
yanaposemwa hayo,wewe na majeshi yako mnakuja kusema kuwa ni uzushi na uchochezi..

Kwa hiyo tatizo lenu ni kuenziwa kwa wazee wenu? Tukimaliza kuwaenzi wazee wenu matatizo yenu yatakuwa yameisha? Ugomvi wenu na mfumokristo utakuwa umeisha? Mbona hamkusema hivyo mapema?

Ritz · Apr 9, 2013

Jasusi said:
Kwa hiyo tatizo lenu ni kuenziwa kwa wazee wenu? Tukimaliza kuwaenzi wazee wenu matatizo yenu yatakuwa yameisha? Ugomvi wenu na mfumokristo utakuwa umeisha? Mbona hamkusema hivyo mapema?

Dogo hilo?

Nguruvi3 · Apr 9, 2013

Ritz said:
Hivi kujua wanaokula vizuri keki ya taifa ni Wakirsto ni hisia tu kweli damu nzito...

Angalia "Ratio" ya Waislam na Wakirsto katika idara za serikali zote wizara mashirika ya umma toka kwa mkoloni mpaka leo wamejaa Wakirsto wengi Waislam wachache waliopo huko wanaonekana kama wanafanyiwa hisani tu.

Wewe fikra zako siku zote dhidi Waislam na mtazamo wako ni kuwa hakuna jambo baya lolote ambalo wameishafanyiwa Waislam na serikali dhulma kwako huwa wanafanyiwa Chadema tu pamoja na Maaskofu, mpaka ukafikia wakati ukatoa ushauri kwa Pengo atoe tamko dhidi ya serikali.

Nakuombea dua sana Allah hakupe umri mrefu na muda uandike kitabu cha kumpinga Mohamed Said kama ulivyosema kuwa ni kazi rahisi kuandika kitabu cha kupinga tatizo muda hauna.

Ritz, hayo unayoyasema ni makosa na hakika hakutakuwa na suluhu ya kudumu kwa matatizo hayo kama mtazamo utabaki kama huo.

Huwezi kuniambia kuwa maofisi kuna wakristo wengi ukasahau kuwa vijijini kuna wananchi wengi wanamenyeka sawia.
Sijui kule kijijini Kibuyi karibu na Kinesi ukivuka kutoka Musoma wananchi wana afadhali gani.

Nilifika kule na sidhani kama kulikuwa na waislam zaidi ya kaya 10 katika kaya 300 siku hizo.
Ukiangalia hali za maisha ya watu ni mbaya sana pengine afadhali na kwingine.

Pili, unapoangalia maofisini unaangalia kundi dogo sana. Kwanini udhani kuwa keki ya taifa ipo katika wizara au mashirika 50 usifikirie maeneo mengine? Nimewahi kukuliza vipi mbona hatusikii idadi ya walimu na mabwana shamba, je hao hawafaidi keki ya taifa.

Ni kwa mtazamo kama huo usitegemee kuona watu wakiliangalia tatizo kutoka Magoroto, Kilwa, Mpanda au kule kwa Wamang'ati kwasababu wanadhani kuwa wakurugenzi 20 ni bora sana kuliko jamii ya watu 6,000,000 au zaidi inayomenyeka.

Ningeelewa kama mngeongelea kuwa kwanini kuna idadi kubwa ya mabwana shamba au walimu au madaktari kama siyo wauguzi n.k. Jicho lenu lipo katika ukurugenzi ambao sidhani kama una nafasi zaidi ya 100 nchini.

Kwa maana hiyo mnadhani matatizo ya waislam yataisha automatic kwa kuwa na wakurugenzi na si kuangalia tatizo na kiini chake.

Huko nyuma nimewahi kukuambia kuwa kuna shirika linatafuta Zoologist mtanzania.
Kama yupo naomba tuwasiliane naye haraka hasa akiwa mwislam ili kuhakikisha keki ya taifa inagawana vema.
Hadi leo hakuna aliyejitokeza.Nadhani ujiulize kwanza kwanini hakuna zoologist halafu ndipo ufikirie wakurugenzi.

Nimewahi kumwambia Mohamed alete majina ya Lawyers, Engineers, Doktors, Prodessor n.k.ambao wamefanyiwa hila tu.
Hakuna aliyeleta, lakini bado watu wapo pale pale kwa wakurugenzi.

Tatizo si wakurugenzi, tatizo ni namna gani wanapatikana.
Huwezi kupata wakurugenzi kutoka Kilwa ambako shule imefungwa na huko kuna asilimia 99 ya waislam.
Nadhani kuna umuhimu wa kutafuta taa ya fanusi na kuiwasha mchana ili isiaidane na jua kuangazia watu!!!

Lakini pia lazima watu waangalie mambo kwa upana wake. Hivi Wamang'ati na Wairaq pamoja na wamasai nao watasemeaje kuhusu keki ya taifa?

Tukiendelea na utaratibu huu basi ipo siku wasukuma na wanyamwezi nao watahoji keki ya taifa vipi? Maana wenyewe tu kwa idadi wanahaki ya kudai wakurugenzi na hata mawaziri. Si ndio uwezo wetu wa kufikiri ulipo!

Kitu wanachosahau watu ni kuwa wafanyabiashara wengi waliofanikiwa kwahakika ni jamii ya waislam tangu enzi.
Sijui yule jamaa yangu wa Mtimbira au kule Nyangao naye asemeje kuhusu keki ya taifa.

Keki ya taifa ni Richmond, Radar, Meremeta na dola laki moja na nusu ikwa siku bila malipo za Dowans.
Keki ya taifa ipo Dodoma pale mtu anapolipwa kwa kukaa kwenye kiti achilia mbali mshahara.
Keki ya taifa ni pesa za halamshauri zinazojenga vyumba viwili vya madarasa kwa thamani ya shule kumi.

Labda sielewi maana ya keki ya taifa lakini kama unakula na kusaza, kama unafadhili timu ya mpira huku mwingine akitafuta aspirin ya kupunguza maumivu ya njaa hilo halihusiani na keki ya taifa.

Na je sasa ni wakati watu washikwe mashati ili wasifanye biashara zao kuleta usawa na kugawana keki ya taifa.

Watu wasitafute visingizio, watafute ukweli na wakabiliane nao.Ukweli usikwepwe ueleze na kama ikibidi msaada uombwe lakini ukweli ubaki kuwa ukweli. Tatizo si wakurugenzi, narudia tatizo ni namna gani unamtengeneza mkurugenzi.

Manchester United wana timu hadi za watoto wa miaka 6 hadi 7. Hawa ndio wanaandaa 'wakurugenzi''

Kama kuna mgao wa keki, vipi mgao wa keki ya nafasi za waislam kusoma kwa msaada mbona haufuati utaratibu wa kugawana keki katika jamii hiyo hiyo inayodai keki ya taifa haigawiwi sawa sawa?

Ritz si unafahamu Afircan Muslim Agency, Islamic bank n.k wanatoa nafasi, je hujui kuna ugomvi wa kugawana''keki''

Wale waliotumwa Turkey na kwingineko kutafuta keki wangapi wamerudi na vipande na kugawia wenzao. Please please!

Kuna mahali sielewi naomba msaada, keki ya taifa maana yake nini?

Webabu · Apr 9, 2013

Nguruvi3 said:
Jamani mnakasha kitu kizuri.
Leo Moddy kaamka kwa namna tofauti kabisa.
Kwanza amekubali kuwa Nyerere alijulikana TAA hata kabla ya kuonana na Abdul.
Sasa anakubali kuwa Abdul ni Mzalendo. Yaani kamweka Abdul katika nafasi yake halisi na si ile ya kumsingizia.

Thank you Mo. This is a big milestone.

Leo kwa mara ya mwanzo nacheka kikwetu kwi...kwi...kwiiiii...
Sasa mbona Nyerere alijifanya mzalendo zaidi kuliko Abdul Sykes!
Mfumokristo unawafanya wakristo ni wazalendo zaidi kuliko waislamu!

Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

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