Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

Nicholas said:

MS akikimbia akimbie tuu....kwani km ameskip maswali karibu yote anategemea nini?Anataka blackmail nani sasa hapa?Unasusia mtihani ambao hujajibu hata moja kwa usahihi...tofauti na watoto wanaonadika bongo fleva halafu wazazi wao kwa misingi ya uchochoezi wa MS wanatoka povu..?Ahsante kwa mfano mzuri wa kuonyesha effects za uchochoezi wake.

Halafu acha "uongo mtakatifu"..Mungu wa kweli hakai na uchafu wowote ukiwepo uongo..ndio maana hakufany akazi ya kufake Yesu ili warumi waue mtu mwingine asiyestahili.Umejibu wapi?maswali hujajibu...na kila kilipokuambiwa urestrain bado next unapost junks nyingine.


Nini sikijui sasa?mbona yote umeyakimbia?Hujaniambia km.Wapi nimekosea..hujajibu maswali yangu uliyoingi akichwa kichwa....junks ulizoziweka nimekuonyesha wapi ni kupotoka.Ukatoa mfano wamtume ..nikakuambia kuwa muhamad hakufuata uislam alioufundisha waislam waufuate...nikakupa mfano kuwa waislam hawakuruhusiwa kuoa wajane wa Muhamad..ingawa kwa waislam wengine Baada ya eda ndoa ingine km kawa.Vipo vingi sana mtu aifanya ila si km alivyohubiri uislam wake...(Tofauti na Nyerere ambaye alihubiri ujamaa, na alikufa mjamaa peke yake~ hiyo ni highlight tuu kuwasaidia ktk kupinga mzee kuwa mtakatifu..).Mke wa Mtume aisha alichezea sana wanasesere ila waislam hawapaswi.

Suala hapa si kwamba sijui enzi ya muhamadi fatwa zilitolewa ua lah...ila kilichotolewa kwanini hakikuwa tayari ktk sheria za kiislam?Na fatwa ni mambo ambayo wanazuoni wengine wanaweza pinga...kuna tofauti ya sheria inayoruhusu sheria ndogo ndogo na Sheria ndongo ndogo zilizotungwa chini ya hiyo sheria.Yaani sheria za manispaa husika zinaweza wekwa na kutewa kila mara halmashauri zinakaa, na mara nyingine wanaweza kuja gundua kuwa sheria nyingine ni makosa.....fatwa nazo zina sura km hiyo...

moja tuu?hii hapa: Fataw
1996 fatw


Bin Laden's 1996 fatw is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". This document is sometimes called the Ladenese epistle, a term derived from bin Laden's surname. It is a long piece, and complains of American activities in numerous countries. It was faxed to supporters across the world.[SUP][4][/SUP] It first appeared in the London-based Arabic paper Al-Quds Al-Arabi.[SUP][1][/SUP]
1998 fatw

The 1998 fatw[SUP][2][/SUP] reached Al Quds Al Arabi by fax,[SUP][5][/SUP] and was signed by five people, four of whom represented specific Islamist groups:

• Osama bin Laden[SUP][6][/SUP]
• Ayman al-Zawahiri,[SUP][6][/SUP] "emir of the Jihad Group in Egypt", probably meaning Islamic Jihad
• Ahmed Refai Taha, alias Abu Yasser, of al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (in Egypt).[SUP][6][/SUP] This endorsement was retracted because of the enormous unpopularity of terrorism in Egypt following the Luxor massacre of tourists and Egyptians by al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya. Taha explained his signature to fellow members of the Islamic Group saying he had only been asked over the telephone to join in a statement of support for the Iraqi people.[SUP][7][/SUP]
• Mir Hamzah"[SUP][6][/SUP]
• Fazul Rahman, "emir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh",[SUP][6][/SUP] probably Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh or HUJI-B; HUJI itself is in Pakistan.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]

The signatories as a group were identified as the "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". This fatw complains of American military presence in the Arabian Peninsula, and American support for Israel. It purports to provide religious authorization for indiscriminate killing of Americans and Jews everywhere. It appeared in February 1998 and the embassy bombings followed in August.



Bahati mbaya sana waislam wengi hujiaminisha kuwa wanajua uislam kuliko wasio waislam..wanasahau wasio waislam wapo wengi sana waujuao uislam ndio maana hawautaki hata kukaa karibu nao.

Mbaya zaidi pamoja na kutoujua bado wanapoteza muda kukimbilia Biblia.

huyu ndiye mwendawazimu wenu km kigngwala badala ya kufanya udactari hata kama alidesa na kupewa anakwenda ktk dini:Msikilize dr.Naik Zakir:
The Big Bang in the Quran? (Dr. Naik) As far as Quran and modern Science is concerned, in the field of Astronomy, the Scientists, the Astronomers, a few decades earlier, they described, how the universe came into existence - They call it the Big Bang. And they said Initially there was one primary nebula, which later on it separated with a Big Bang, which gave rise to Galaxies, Stars, Sun and the Earth, we live in. This information is given in a nutshell in the Glorious Quran, in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21, Verse No. 30, which says. (Arabic).... Do not the unbelievers see? . (Arabic). That the heavens and the earth were joined together, and we clove them asunder? Imagine this information which we came to know recently, the Quran mentions 14 hundred years ago.

halfu na hizi links jinsi waislam walivyoamua kuwa so busy ktk:
Science Islam - Evolution Creation or BOTH?
Ehsan Masood: As we celebrate Darwin, let's not forget the many other unsung champions of evolution from around the world | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Al-Jahiz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Unasemea hii?Babylonian Talmud: Yebamoth 59
Hembu soma tena, halafu pange point zako vyema bila kuwa thisi desperate.

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Labda tuwaite hawa ndio wanaelewana lugha na wewe, kahtaan. Nonda. Myanguneni. Ally Kombo. Gavana.

Nicholas said:

Tutawapa as time goes on..ila kuwasaidia waanzie hapa:Zanzibar Christians.

watakuta quote km hizi:
".............The UMCA Missionaries were not idle during this time. Living first in the Mambo Msiige House, on Shangani point, not far from the French mission, the industrious British soon launched into a

building boom of impressive size and variety. First they purchased some farm land in a suburb named Kiungani. By 1866 construction was underway there for a building to be used as a "hostel for released slave boys." Nearby a cemetery was laid out, that today still contains the remains of some of the early Christians on Zanzibar.

Next, in 1873 a second land purchase was made, this time near the center of town, almost a full city block that had been an old market square, where slaves were once sold. The call soon went out for funds to help build a church on the very site where such evil had occurred. This was the start for Christ Church Cathedral.

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"......................The UMCA missionaries set about filling their new properties with a variety of religious and secular buildings. At Mbweni, in 1882 they started construction of the St. John's Parrish Church. Nearby they established a village and small farm plots for ex-slaves and built the "Kilimani Little Boy's Home," later to become a girls school. Also at Mbweni they built a number of vocational workshops for training converts in useful skills and finally the St. Mark's Theological College, which later was moved to Kiungani........................."

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Naaaaam naaaam mkuuu!

Umelifungua baraza kimang'amuzi ya nera!

Sasa hawa maamuma tunaweza kwenda nao hatua kwa hatua na kuwasomesha vema!

Ritz, GombeSugu na wenzio ninaomba jitulizeni hapa tuwape elimu na sio ilm yenu!

Matola said:

Unamjuwa vizuri Andrew Nyerere?

Unazijuwa mila na desturi za Wazanaki?

Nyerere kwa Wazanaki ni nani mwenye hatimiliki kwamba fulani linamuhusu na fulani halimuhusu?

Mbona hamshangai Mbunge wenu wa viti maalum Chadema yeye ni Msukuma lakini anajiita Leticia Nyerere?

Nawatakia mjadala mwema wanahistoria.

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I dont know,
lakin kwa kuwa tuh Adrew kama mwanafamilia wa julius kakana katu katu kumfaham huyu mwana asie na baba basi nashawishika kusema kwamba huyu mdandia nasaba za watu ana case kubwa ya kujibu,
especially katika kutumia jina la watu kinyume na sheria pamoja na kulidhalilisha,
Ni wakati wa kumpuuza sasa kwa kila anachokisema.

Nicholas said:

MS akikimbia akimbie tuu....kwani km ameskip maswali karibu yote anategemea nini?Anataka blackmail nani sasa hapa?Unasusia mtihani ambao hujajibu hata moja kwa usahihi...tofauti na watoto wanaonadika bongo fleva halafu wazazi wao kwa misingi ya uchochoezi wa MS wanatoka povu..?Ahsante kwa mfano mzuri wa kuonyesha effects za uchochoezi wake.

Halafu acha "uongo mtakatifu"..Mungu wa kweli hakai na uchafu wowote ukiwepo uongo..ndio maana hakufany akazi ya kufake Yesu ili warumi waue mtu mwingine asiyestahili.Umejibu wapi?maswali hujajibu...na kila kilipokuambiwa urestrain bado next unapost junks nyingine.


Nini sikijui sasa?mbona yote umeyakimbia?Hujaniambia km.Wapi nimekosea..hujajibu maswali yangu uliyoingi akichwa kichwa....junks ulizoziweka nimekuonyesha wapi ni kupotoka.Ukatoa mfano wamtume ..nikakuambia kuwa muhamad hakufuata uislam alioufundisha waislam waufuate...nikakupa mfano kuwa waislam hawakuruhusiwa kuoa wajane wa Muhamad..ingawa kwa waislam wengine Baada ya eda ndoa ingine km kawa.Vipo vingi sana mtu aifanya ila si km alivyohubiri uislam wake...(Tofauti na Nyerere ambaye alihubiri ujamaa, na alikufa mjamaa peke yake~ hiyo ni highlight tuu kuwasaidia ktk kupinga mzee kuwa mtakatifu..).Mke wa Mtume aisha alichezea sana wanasesere ila waislam hawapaswi.

Suala hapa si kwamba sijui enzi ya muhamadi fatwa zilitolewa ua lah...ila kilichotolewa kwanini hakikuwa tayari ktk sheria za kiislam?Na fatwa ni mambo ambayo wanazuoni wengine wanaweza pinga...kuna tofauti ya sheria inayoruhusu sheria ndogo ndogo na Sheria ndongo ndogo zilizotungwa chini ya hiyo sheria.Yaani sheria za manispaa husika zinaweza wekwa na kutewa kila mara halmashauri zinakaa, na mara nyingine wanaweza kuja gundua kuwa sheria nyingine ni makosa.....fatwa nazo zina sura km hiyo...

moja tuu?hii hapa: Fataw
1996 fatw


Bin Laden's 1996 fatw is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". This document is sometimes called the Ladenese epistle, a term derived from bin Laden's surname. It is a long piece, and complains of American activities in numerous countries. It was faxed to supporters across the world.[SUP][4][/SUP] It first appeared in the London-based Arabic paper Al-Quds Al-Arabi.[SUP][1][/SUP]
1998 fatw

The 1998 fatw[SUP][2][/SUP] reached Al Quds Al Arabi by fax,[SUP][5][/SUP] and was signed by five people, four of whom represented specific Islamist groups:

• Osama bin Laden[SUP][6][/SUP]
• Ayman al-Zawahiri,[SUP][6][/SUP] "emir of the Jihad Group in Egypt", probably meaning Islamic Jihad
• Ahmed Refai Taha, alias Abu Yasser, of al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (in Egypt).[SUP][6][/SUP] This endorsement was retracted because of the enormous unpopularity of terrorism in Egypt following the Luxor massacre of tourists and Egyptians by al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya. Taha explained his signature to fellow members of the Islamic Group saying he had only been asked over the telephone to join in a statement of support for the Iraqi people.[SUP][7][/SUP]
• Mir Hamzah"[SUP][6][/SUP]
• Fazul Rahman, "emir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh",[SUP][6][/SUP] probably Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh or HUJI-B; HUJI itself is in Pakistan.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]

The signatories as a group were identified as the "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". This fatw complains of American military presence in the Arabian Peninsula, and American support for Israel. It purports to provide religious authorization for indiscriminate killing of Americans and Jews everywhere. It appeared in February 1998 and the embassy bombings followed in August.



Bahati mbaya sana waislam wengi hujiaminisha kuwa wanajua uislam kuliko wasio waislam..wanasahau wasio waislam wapo wengi sana waujuao uislam ndio maana hawautaki hata kukaa karibu nao.

Mbaya zaidi pamoja na kutoujua bado wanapoteza muda kukimbilia Biblia.

huyu ndiye mwendawazimu wenu km kigngwala badala ya kufanya udactari hata kama alidesa na kupewa anakwenda ktk dini:Msikilize dr.Naik Zakir:
The Big Bang in the Quran? (Dr. Naik) As far as Quran and modern Science is concerned, in the field of Astronomy, the Scientists, the Astronomers, a few decades earlier, they described, how the universe came into existence - They call it the Big Bang. And they said Initially there was one primary nebula, which later on it separated with a Big Bang, which gave rise to Galaxies, Stars, Sun and the Earth, we live in. This information is given in a nutshell in the Glorious Quran, in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21, Verse No. 30, which says. (Arabic).... Do not the unbelievers see? . (Arabic). That the heavens and the earth were joined together, and we clove them asunder? Imagine this information which we came to know recently, the Quran mentions 14 hundred years ago.

halfu na hizi links jinsi waislam walivyoamua kuwa so busy ktk:
Science Islam - Evolution Creation or BOTH?
Ehsan Masood: As we celebrate Darwin, let's not forget the many other unsung champions of evolution from around the world | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Al-Jahiz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Unasemea hii?Babylonian Talmud: Yebamoth 59
Hembu soma tena, halafu pange point zako vyema bila kuwa thisi desperate.

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Junks junks bogus.

Nicholas said:

Suala hapa si kwamba sijui enzi ya muhamadi fatwa zilitolewa ua lah...ila kilichotolewa kwanini hakikuwa tayari ktk sheria za kiislam?Na fatwa ni mambo ambayo wanazuoni wengine wanaweza pinga...kuna tofauti ya sheria inayoruhusu sheria ndogo ndogo na Sheria ndongo ndogo zilizotungwa chini ya hiyo sheria.Yaani sheria za manispaa husika zinaweza wekwa na kutewa kila mara halmashauri zinakaa, na mara nyingine wanaweza kuja gundua kuwa sheria nyingine ni makosa.....fatwa nazo zina sura km hiyo...

moja tuu?hii hapa: Fataw
1996 fatwā


Bin Laden's 1996 fatwā is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". This document is sometimes called the Ladenese epistle, a term derived from bin Laden's surname. It is a long piece, and complains of American activities in numerous countries. It was faxed to supporters across the world.[SUP][4][/SUP] It first appeared in the London-based Arabic paper Al-Quds Al-Arabi.[SUP][1][/SUP]
1998 fatwā

The 1998 fatwā[SUP][2][/SUP] reached Al Quds Al Arabi by fax,[SUP][5][/SUP] and was signed by five people, four of whom represented specific Islamist groups:

• Osama bin Laden[SUP][6][/SUP]
• Ayman al-Zawahiri,[SUP][6][/SUP] "emir of the Jihad Group in Egypt", probably meaning Islamic Jihad
• Ahmed Refai Taha, alias Abu Yasser, of al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (in Egypt).[SUP][6][/SUP] This endorsement was retracted because of the enormous unpopularity of terrorism in Egypt following the Luxor massacre of tourists and Egyptians by al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya. Taha explained his signature to fellow members of the Islamic Group saying he had only been asked over the telephone to join in a statement of support for the Iraqi people.[SUP][7][/SUP]
• Mir Hamzah"[SUP][6][/SUP]
• Fazul Rahman, "emir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh",[SUP][6][/SUP] probably Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh or HUJI-B; HUJI itself is in Pakistan.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]

The signatories as a group were identified as the "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". This fatwā complains of American military presence in the Arabian Peninsula, and American support for Israel. It purports to provide religious authorization for indiscriminate killing of Americans and Jews everywhere. It appeared in February 1998 and the embassy bombings followed in August.

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Miezi 6 mmeshindwa kuonesha uchochezi.Tumebaki hapa tunazungushana na hoja zile zile.
Sasa wewe Nicholas nakushauri uwe na adabu unapozugumzia Uislamu.
Fatwa kama uliyoitaja hapo juu huwezi kujua kuwa kweli imetolewa na Osama,halafu waliosaini ni wale wale walio kwenye mkanda wa kimarekani.
Kumbuka uzushi na uonevu pamoja na uadui wa Amerika kwa waislamu ndio sumu utakaoliua taifa hilo.Hivyo unapoquote vitu kama hivyo angalia sana kuchunga heshima yako.
Elewa kuwa waislamu wengi hatushughulishwi tena na uzushi kama huo wala huu wa Yerico.

Spike Lee said:

Labda tuwaite hawa ndio wanaelewana lugha na wewe, kahtaan. Nonda. Myanguneni. Ally Kombo. Gavana.

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sio hao tu tuwaongeze na hawa MaxShimba, mgen na Kipala

kadoda11 said:

nicholas has nailed it.post yake ni epic and pure scientific.ninamashaka kama wewe na ritz mmemuelewa/mtamuelewa.lol

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Kama wewe umemuelewa chizi basi na wewe ni chizi, kawaida wehu kwa wehu ndiyo wanaelewana.

Yericko Nyerere said:

Naaaaam naaaam mkuuu!

Umelifungua baraza kimang'amuzi ya nera!

Sasa hawa maamuma tunaweza kwenda nao hatua kwa hatua na kuwasomesha vema!

Ritz, GombeSugu na wenzio ninaomba jitulizeni hapa tuwape elimu na sio ilm yenu!

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Yericko,

Achana na hizo junks bogus, eleza kina nani walipewa ardhi Zanzibar na Kanisa.

nicholas] Kwanza amani ya bwana iwe juu yako!
La pili nimesoma mistari kadhaa ambayo imenifanya nikuandikie huu ujumbe,
Unaonekana kuwa ni mtu mwenye jazba saaana juu ya imani yako, na hilo halikatazwi lakini ukivuka mipaka ukaanza kutoa kashfa hapo ndipo unachafua mazingira ya malumbao kabisaa na unatangasha shari na watu woote wenye imani ambayo una ikashifu,

sasa kabla ya kuendelea zaidi hebu nikuulize,
We una tatizo gani na uislamu??
Au uislamu umekufanya nini mpaka unaanza kuwaita watu wendawazimu, vichaa, wehu n.k?

Siku zote mwerevu hutoa hoja zake na kuwaachia watu wafaidike, ukiona mtu anakimbilia kuanza kashfa, ni mawili hapo:
Aidha ameshindwa hoja sasa hii inakuwa ni njia ya kujihami, au ana matatizo ya akili,

Sasa wewe unasema uislamu unaufahamu saaana,

SWALI NAKUULIZA :nini tatizo lako tukusaidie??
Ila naomba kitu kimoja tu! usinichanganyie lugha! kama unataka kutumia lugha ya wakoloni unakaribishwa,
!la unataka ktumia lugha yetu hii vilevile tutakuwa pamoja,

Onyo: Tafadhali jenga hoja na matusi waachie walevi!

Ritz said:

Kama wewe umemuelewa chizi basi na wewe ni chizi, kawaida wehu kwa wehu ndiyo wanaelewana.

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Exactly,
mimi baada ya kumtambua huyo jamaa namdharau kama taka taka,
kihiyo kbs

Nicholas said:

ila kilichotolewa kwanini hakikuwa tayari ktk sheria za kiislam?

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Inaonyesha wazi kuwa hujui Fatwa inatolewa katika masuala gani:

Muislamu anaweza kumuendea Mufti yoyote na kumwambia ammpe Fatwa ili asiswali kwa siku kadhaa kwa vile tu hujisikii kuswali?

Anaweza kumwambia Mufti amtolee Fatwa ya kuwa asifunge Ramadhani kwa vile haipendezi kwake?

Anaweza kumuomba Mufti ampe Fatwa ya kwenda kulala na mwanamke mmoja aliyempenda? ...

Mfano mwingine wa kuwa Fatwa inatolewa kutokana na utayari uliopo katika Shariah;
Mtume SAW amekataza kuwaua viongozi wa Kikristo na wa Kiyahudi (hii ni katika Hadith)
Lakini kama kuna Askofu au Rabbi ameshika silaha na yeye anatuua, hapa kwa watu kama mimi tutakuwa na utata; je Askofu yule na yeye hatumuui au tunamuua?

Bila shaka yoyte nitahitaji msaada wa Mufti anitolee Fatwa, na hata kama atatoa Fatwa ya kumuua basi itakuwa ni kwa Askofu yule tu (na anauliwa kwa sababu anatuua, si kwa Uaskofu), mahali pale tu mathalan Fatwa hii imetolewa Kenya siwezi nikaichukua na kuja kuitumia Tanzania,na kwa wakati ule tu ina maana kama baada ya miaka miwili tunaweka fungamano la amani kati yetu na Wakristo hii Fatwa inakuwa batili.
Baada ya Mzunguko wote huo unaona kuwa mafundisho ya asili yapo palepale.

Nicholas said:

Yaani sheria za manispaa husika zinaweza wekwa na kutewa kila mara halmashauri zinakaa, na mara nyingine wanaweza kuja gundua kuwa sheria nyingine ni makosa.....fatwa nazo zina sura km hiyo...

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Hili ni tusi kwa Waislamu:
Fatwa hutolewa kutoka kwenye vyanzo ambavyo ni Wahy(revelation) Quran na Sunnah wakati sheria za manispaa zinatungwa (kama sikosei) bungeni ambapo wabunge wa aina mbalimbali huwepo na kuathiri pamoja na kushiriki katika utungwaji wa hizo sheria, ninamaanisha Wabunge na Mawaziri Mafisadi, walevi, wachawi,wevi, wasagaji, n.k

Nicholas said:

Bin Laden's 1996 fatwā is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". This document is sometimes called the Ladenese epistle, a term derived from bin Laden's surname. It is a long piece, and complains of American activities in numerous countries. It was faxed to supporters across the world.[SUP][4][/SUP] It first appeared in the London-based Arabic paper Al-Quds Al-Arabi.[SUP][1][/SUP]
1998 fatwā

The 1998 fatwā[SUP][2][/SUP] reached Al Quds Al Arabi by fax,[SUP][5][/SUP] and was signed by five people, four of whom represented specific Islamist groups:
Osama bin Laden[SUP][6][/SUP]
Ayman al-Zawahiri,[SUP][6][/SUP] "emir of the Jihad Group in Egypt", probably meaning Islamic Jihad
Ahmed Refai Taha, alias Abu Yasser, of al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (in Egypt).[SUP][6][/SUP] This endorsement was retracted because of the enormous unpopularity of terrorism in Egypt following the Luxor massacre of tourists and Egyptians by al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya. Taha explained his signature to fellow members of the Islamic Group saying he had only been asked over the telephone to join in a statement of support for the Iraqi people.[SUP][7][/SUP]
Mir Hamzah"[SUP][6][/SUP]
Fazul Rahman, "emir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh",[SUP][6][/SUP] probably Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh or HUJI-B; HUJI itself is in Pakistan.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
The signatories as a group were identified as the "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". This fatwā complains of American military presence in the Arabian Peninsula, and American support for Israel. It purports to provide religious authorization for indiscriminate killing of Americans and Jews everywhere. It appeared in February 1998 and the embassy bombings followed in August.

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Nikikuambia kuwa hiyo ni Declaration of War iliyotangazwa na Amir wa Jihad na Mujahidina (kama alivyokuwa akijiona mwenyewe) na kusainiwa na Ma-Amir mbalimbali na si Fatwa iliyotolewa na Bin Laden utasemaje?

Kwa sababu Amir ndiye anayeweza kuja na kusoma tangazo au kutangaza Jihad (na inawezekana tamko lake likawa lina Fatwa ndani yake)..unaweza kuiposti hiyo unayoiita wewe na mwandishi fatwa ili tuiangalie pamoja?

Nicholas said:

huyu ndiye mwendawazimu wenu km kigngwala badala ya kufanya udactari hata kama alidesa na kupewa anakwenda ktk dini:Msikilize dr.Naik Zakir:
The Big Bang in the Quran? (Dr. Naik) As far as Qur’an and modern Science is concerned, in the field of ‘Astronomy’, the Scientists, the Astronomers, a few decades earlier, they described, how the universe came into existence - They call it the ‘Big Bang’. And they said… ‘Initially there was one primary nebula, which later on it separated with a Big Bang, which gave rise to Galaxies, Stars, Sun and the Earth, we live in.’ This information is given in a nutshell in the Glorious Qur’an, in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21, Verse No. 30, which says…. (Arabic).... Do not the unbelievers see…? …. (Arabic)…. ‘That the heavens and the earth were joined together, and we clove them asunder?’ Imagine this information which we came to know recently, the Qur’an mentions 14 hundred years ago.

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Povu la nini?
...ulitakiwa uonyeshe huo uongo wake!

Nicholas said:

Unasemea hii?Babylonian Talmud: Yebamoth 59
Hembu soma tena, halafu pange point zako vyema bila kuwa thisi desperate

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Vipi umeshachanganyikiwa nini?

Nilkuwa nikikuthibitishia uchawi wa Mayahudi, nyingine hiyo nikinukuu:

Pharisaic Rituals:Erubin 21b (p. 150). "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands." "It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your hands?"
"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].

Ritz said:

Yericko,

Achana na hizo junks bogus, eleza kina nani walipewa ardhi Zanzibar na Kanisa.

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Jana nilipoweka hapa hostoria ya Zanzia kuanzi miaka 2000 iliyopita nilifanya hivyo kwa maksudi mazima nikidhani kuna mtu atahitaji kujua zaidi historia hiyo,

Lakini ajabu wewe uliishia kuomba source of information tu,

Nilistaajabu sana lakini nikakusihi usome na ujenge hoja kutoka kwayo,

Lakini kumbe nalikuwa nikimpigia mbuzi gitaa!


Jitulize taaaratibu bila papara wala jazba!

Rudi ukurasa wa nne kutoka hapa tulipo na kisha uisome ile historia ile, baada ya hapo njoo ukurasa wa pili tu nyuma hapo tumeeleza wazi jinsi Wakristu Wareno ilivyowalazimu kuinunua ardhi na kuwaokoa manusura wa kibantu

Tumeweka na kile ukitakacho siku zote alimaarufu kama SOURCE

Nicholas said:

Vitu vingine jifunze kusoma..nyie mnakimbilia tuu titles za propaganda mlizopangiwa...Nenda pale UDSM kaongee na historians/anthropologists/archaeologists... wakupe reference..ingia ktk achieve za catholics and anglican...nenda bagamoyo kuna museum pale.
Wafuasi wa kwanza wa kikristu walikuwa ni watumwa walionunuliwa n akuanz ajumuia ndogondogo....Sijui utapata wapi hizi series.Ila jaribu tafuta hata online.Wamissionary walikuwa sultani ana waislam wake na ktk milki yake, kitendo cha kumchukulia waumini nadhani unajua ktk uislam.Nitakuletea reference zamshamba ya waliyotumia wakristu wa mwanzo ktk kundi la watumwa, kwa hiyo wakristu wa zenj walikombolewa kwa hela na Imani.Waliotosa huo uhuru wamelaaniwa .

American Society of Missiology Series, No. 38
THE EVANGELIZATION OF SLAVES
AND CATHOLIC ORIGINS
IN EASTERN AFRICA
Paul V. Kollman

Uwe pi aunasoma na Biblia bila kutafuta mistari ya kizushi..soma Gospel moja ukiwa umetulia.Ili uweze pima mazungumzo ya watu n ayale ufudishwayo ktk dini yako..ila pia ukinogea haunyimwi kuison ahadi mwisho.

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Junks, junks, crackpot bogus.

Nicholas said:

Anataka aje kulipua?...pia ajue familia ya Nyerere wapo very smart...asitegemee majibu ya kusatisfy adrenaline na testosterone zake.Ila jibu la wenye akili.Kwa waliowahi angalia Interview na mwanafamilia yeyote...atajua..hii familia imekomaa..Na ukimya wao..ni kwa vile wanaamini.."At every moment there is only one president"

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i learned long time ago.,
Never to wrestle with A PIG,
YOU GET DIRTY,AND BESIDES THE PIG LIKES IT,
SO IN THIS VERY DAY WE PITA TUH,SINA MKUKI MIMI...

Yericko Nyerere said:

Jitulize taaaratibu bila papara wala jazba!

Rudi ukurasa wa nyuma hapo tumeeleza wazi jinsi Wakristu Wareno ilivyowalazimu kuinunua ardhi na kuwaokoa manusura wa kibantu

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Tulia sasa tuanze mijadala ya kidini, wewe na huyo jamaa yako ambaye unamsifia matamu hapo...ha haa ha.

THE BIG SHOW said:

Exactly,
mimi baada ya kumtambua huyo jamaa namdharau kama taka taka,
kihiyo kbs

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Hivi ndugu yangu kuna mtu hapa anaepingana na wewe ambae humdarau?

Nilikuuliza kule nyuma kuwa hakuna unachotaka kujifunza katika uzi huu zaidi ya matusi, kejeri na ngano za Mohamed Said?

Hutaki kuingiza chochote kile akilini mwako zaidi ya hayo?

Pole sana mkuu, sikulaumu wewe ila nakusikitikia tu na kukuombea kwa Jah akupe ufahamu

Ritz said:

Tulia sasa tuanze mijadala ya kidini, wewe na huyo jamaa yako ambaye unamsifia matamu hapo...ha haa ha.

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Jiepushe kuweka mahubiri ya kidini hapa!

Tunajadili historia hivyo kuwa mwangalifu tunapolazimika kuhusisha dini tusije vunja kanuni za mjadala huu!

Naona jamvi limechafuka hamaki zimeongezeka watu wakiitana nguruwe, wehu pamoja na machizi...

Wengine wakija na kupiga mikwara mizito mizito... Ngojea niendelee kufatilia mpambano...

hahaha ritz bhana!ofcoz mim ni chiz kweli ndio mana nipo sambamba na thread hii since day one ili nijifunze japo sichangii mara kwa mara kama ufanyavyo wewe mwerevu na team yako michango yenu ni mingi na ni too low.

naona watu njaa inawasumbua humu ndio maana mipasho ni mingi na mikwara mingi hoja mmeweka pembeni...

Ngojea nimwite Mshume Kiyate aje awapatie hela ya kitoweo kwanza halafu tuendelee...