Uganda -Tanzania Oil Pipeline is still in the dark

[passioner255]

hizi nchi za ldc ni umasikini na shida tupu. nothing ever seems to get right.

Hujielewi

 

[Lewis254]

Hujielewi

kwa uchumi kiduchu mlonao,,, hamuwezi finance chochote hata mkishirikiana. mbaya zaidi, hamukopesheki. dhiki hizi ndizo zilizokua zikimkasirisha bwana yule (R.I.P) na kujawa na hamaki. mwishowe anakuja na kauli za, ''tunajenga kwa hela zetu za ndani'' ziko wapi hizo hela???
acheni mihemko Mataga. shirikisheni ubongo sometimes.
this time we have our very own humble and smart Mama SSH, I hope all issues will be ironed out.
kila la kheri Mama. nakutakia mafanikio mema.

 

[Tony254]

Una uwezo mdogo sana wa kuelewa mambo haya.
Don't you see third party (passivity) relationship btn AC and TOTAL? AC is just a lender (stakeholder) to TOTAL, and not one of (promoter) shareholders of TOTAL, leave alone the EACOP SPE.

There's no place where TOTAL meets AC in corporate governance and commercial issues. But they only interact in financial closures. If AC decides not to dish out money to project, what TOTAL can do is to approach other bankers or go for debt markets.

Hapa unasema kwamba Credit Agricole sio shareholder wa Kampuni ya Total? Ama mimi ndio nimekuelewa vibaya?

 

[Opportunity Cost]

Niliskia ujenzi unawnza huu mwezi? Has materials reached the site yet?

[emoji13][emoji13][emoji13][emoji13] ni juu ya Uganda na Tanzania na tatal kutafuta pesa kama mradi una faida kwao

 

[eliakeem]

Hapa unasema kwamba Credit Agricole sio shareholder wa Kampuni ya Total? Ama mimi ndio nimekuelewa vibaya?

Wewe na yule mwenzako Teargass mna shida ya kiingereza. Siku nyingi nimekuwa nikiwaangalia.
Shareholders wa TOTAL ni wafuatao:
1. BlackRock (1st Largest shareholder)
2. Amundi (2nd Largest shareholder)

Now read the following excerpt from the article.

"Amundi, in which Crédit Agricole is the largest shareholder, is the second largest shareholder in Total after BlackRock".

For your benefit, CA is a bank which has a largest chunk in Amundi. Also Amundi has a second largest chunk in TOTAL.
Now do you see the third party (passivity) relationship between bank CA and TOTAL? Also EACOP is btn TOTAL and CNOOC.
So for this note, Crédit Agricole is just a creditor for the EACOP (through TOTAL) and kinda of related stuff.

 

[Nicxie]

hii kitu kumbe iliwauma sana wakenya. Tanzania kwa sasa haina muda kupoteza kujadili upuuzi na watu wa aina hii, hata mradi huo usipofanikiwa ipo mingine mingi inakuja. kama kuumia moyo kenye mtaumia sana.

The tune is silently but surely changing 😂 😂 The clouds are gathering and it's going to open the floodgates

 

[BILLY ISISWE]

French banks disavow Total’s EACOP plans​

Three French banks have committed not to provide project financing for the Total-led East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP).
By Ed Reed
22/04/2021, 4:04 pm

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Three French banks have committed not to provide project financing for the Total-led East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP).
BNP Paribas, Société Générale and Crédit Agricole will not participate, France’s Les Echos newspaper reported.
“The project is too hard to defend,” Les Echos quoted an unnamed source as saying.
A statement from Reclaim Finance noted that Barclays, Credit Suisse and ANZ had also said they would steer clear of the EACOP plan.
The environmental NGO called on Natixis to follow suit.
BankTrack researcher Ryan Brightwell called on Standard Bank, SMBC and ICBC “to take these concerns seriously and withdraw their support”.
Total committed to the Lake Albert development, which includes EACOP, on April 11. However, it has not concluded talks on securing the expected $2.5 billion of financing thought to be required to build the world’s longest heated pipeline.

Crédit Agricole has provided $7.3 billion of financing to Total between 2016 and 2020, while BNP Paribas provided nearly $6bn. The four French banks in total have provided more than $16bn to Total, it said.
Amundi, in which Crédit Agricole is the largest shareholder, is the second largest shareholder in Total after BlackRock.

Broader push​

Reclaim Finance’s founder Lucie Pinson welcomed the move, saying it was a “major blow for this polluting and unjust pipeline. Natixis and other international banks should now follow their lead.”
Pinson went on to say the banks should not finance new oil and gas projects of Total, while shareholders should vote against the company’s climate strategy.
Total is holding its AGM on May 28. Shareholders will vote on Total’s plans for carbon neutrality by 2050, with a 15% reduction by 2030.
Reclaim Finance has criticised Total for failing to include its scope 3 emissions in its carbon neutrality plans, outside Europe.
The NGO has said the vote at Total’s AGM is about communication. “Total does not need to be encouraged to communicate on its climate strategy; Total needs to be pushed to adopt a climate strategy that is compatible with a viable climate trajectory,” it has said.

Shell is also holding a vote on its climate ambitions in May and has come under fire for its plans.

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Kuna mikono wa mtu lazimaa...

 

[peno hasegawa]

French banks disavow Total’s EACOP plans​

Three French banks have committed not to provide project financing for the Total-led East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP).
By Ed Reed
22/04/2021, 4:04 pm

Total news
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Three French banks have committed not to provide project financing for the Total-led East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP).
BNP Paribas, Société Générale and Crédit Agricole will not participate, France’s Les Echos newspaper reported.
“The project is too hard to defend,” Les Echos quoted an unnamed source as saying.
A statement from Reclaim Finance noted that Barclays, Credit Suisse and ANZ had also said they would steer clear of the EACOP plan.
The environmental NGO called on Natixis to follow suit.
BankTrack researcher Ryan Brightwell called on Standard Bank, SMBC and ICBC “to take these concerns seriously and withdraw their support”.
Total committed to the Lake Albert development, which includes EACOP, on April 11. However, it has not concluded talks on securing the expected $2.5 billion of financing thought to be required to build the world’s longest heated pipeline.

Crédit Agricole has provided $7.3 billion of financing to Total between 2016 and 2020, while BNP Paribas provided nearly $6bn. The four French banks in total have provided more than $16bn to Total, it said.
Amundi, in which Crédit Agricole is the largest shareholder, is the second largest shareholder in Total after BlackRock.

Broader push​

Reclaim Finance’s founder Lucie Pinson welcomed the move, saying it was a “major blow for this polluting and unjust pipeline. Natixis and other international banks should now follow their lead.”
Pinson went on to say the banks should not finance new oil and gas projects of Total, while shareholders should vote against the company’s climate strategy.
Total is holding its AGM on May 28. Shareholders will vote on Total’s plans for carbon neutrality by 2050, with a 15% reduction by 2030.
Reclaim Finance has criticised Total for failing to include its scope 3 emissions in its carbon neutrality plans, outside Europe.
The NGO has said the vote at Total’s AGM is about communication. “Total does not need to be encouraged to communicate on its climate strategy; Total needs to be pushed to adopt a climate strategy that is compatible with a viable climate trajectory,” it has said.

Shell is also holding a vote on its climate ambitions in May and has come under fire for its plans.

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+254 ni kaa la moto kwenye hii project

 

[BILLY ISISWE]

Tatizo wanatumia mihemko kwenye huu mradi badala ya akili, wamekomalia kulaumu Kenya badala ya kujibu hoja zilizoibuliwa, kama mliambiwa tatizo kwamba hamjafanya upembuzi wa kimazingira ipasavyo, mjibu hizo hoja acheni kulia lia kuhusu Kenya.

Kumbe kuna mikono wa Kenya. Ndio sababu ya kuzuia mahindi kwenda kwao. Hili ...................m

 

[Yoda]

Umekariri kimkakati tu hata hujui maana yake ni nini

Hizo ni changamoto za kawaida kabisa katika miradi ya kimkakati kama hii.

 

[Nicxie]

Wakenya wajinga sana, Kwa hizo pesa zenu mingi si mkopeshe Total mchukue riba na malipo ya mkopo miaka 20?
Badala ya kuona fursa nyie Matajiri mnakuja huku na vijembe, Taarabu na vinginevyo

Leo wewe si mkenya tena Kijana wa "thedegua"? 😂 Wewe mnyamwezi wacha kutaliki nchi yako mbele ya umma

 

[Nicxie]

Una uwezo mdogo sana wa kuelewa mambo haya.
Don't you see third party (passivity) relationship btn AC and TOTAL? AC is just a lender (stakeholder) to TOTAL, and not one of (promoter) shareholders of TOTAL, leave alone the EACOP SPE.

There's no place where TOTAL meets AC in corporate governance and commercial issues. But they only interact in financial closures. If AC decides not to dish out money to project, what TOTAL can do is to approach other bankers or go for debt markets.

Ushaambiwa kwamba AC is a shareholder in TOTAL but you are still maintaining that it's a stakeholder. Do you know the difference between a shareholder and a stakeholder? These are two different things. Mbona unalazimisha mambo wakati kila kitu kipo wazi? Ama kiingereza ndio inakupiga chenga?

 

[eliakeem]

Ushaambiwa kwamba AC is a shareholder in TOTAL but you are still maintaining that it's a stakeholder. Do you know the difference between a shareholder and a stakeholder? These are two different things. Mbona unalazimisha mambo wakati kila kitu kipo wazi? Ama kiingereza ndio inakupiga chenga?

Bwege kabisa.
Kwenye orodha ya shareholders wa TOTAL, CA wapo?

na Amunda je?
BlackRock nao ni nani?

kiingereza ni shida kwenu. Bora niwaache tu.

lkn soma hii from the article.

"Amundi, in which Crédit Agricole is the largest shareholder, is the second largest shareholder in Total after BlackRock".

 

[MK254]

Ushaambiwa kwamba AC is a shareholder in TOTAL but you are still maintaining that it's a stakeholder. Do you know the difference between a shareholder and a stakeholder? These are two different things. Mbona unalazimisha mambo wakati kila kitu kipo wazi? Ama kiingereza ndio inakupiga chenga?

Hehehe dayaspora wa Buza kingereza humtesa sana.

 

[KIBAKI GENIOUS]

French banks disavow Total’s EACOP plans​

Three French banks have committed not to provide project financing for the Total-led East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP).
By Ed Reed
22/04/2021, 4:04 pm

Total news
Register here for the Energy Voice daily newsletter, bringing you key news and insight from across the global energy landscape.

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Three French banks have committed not to provide project financing for the Total-led East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP).
BNP Paribas, Société Générale and Crédit Agricole will not participate, France’s Les Echos newspaper reported.
“The project is too hard to defend,” Les Echos quoted an unnamed source as saying.
A statement from Reclaim Finance noted that Barclays, Credit Suisse and ANZ had also said they would steer clear of the EACOP plan.
The environmental NGO called on Natixis to follow suit.
BankTrack researcher Ryan Brightwell called on Standard Bank, SMBC and ICBC “to take these concerns seriously and withdraw their support”.
Total committed to the Lake Albert development, which includes EACOP, on April 11. However, it has not concluded talks on securing the expected $2.5 billion of financing thought to be required to build the world’s longest heated pipeline.

Crédit Agricole has provided $7.3 billion of financing to Total between 2016 and 2020, while BNP Paribas provided nearly $6bn. The four French banks in total have provided more than $16bn to Total, it said.
Amundi, in which Crédit Agricole is the largest shareholder, is the second largest shareholder in Total after BlackRock.

Broader push​

Reclaim Finance’s founder Lucie Pinson welcomed the move, saying it was a “major blow for this polluting and unjust pipeline. Natixis and other international banks should now follow their lead.”
Pinson went on to say the banks should not finance new oil and gas projects of Total, while shareholders should vote against the company’s climate strategy.
Total is holding its AGM on May 28. Shareholders will vote on Total’s plans for carbon neutrality by 2050, with a 15% reduction by 2030.
Reclaim Finance has criticised Total for failing to include its scope 3 emissions in its carbon neutrality plans, outside Europe.
The NGO has said the vote at Total’s AGM is about communication. “Total does not need to be encouraged to communicate on its climate strategy; Total needs to be pushed to adopt a climate strategy that is compatible with a viable climate trajectory,” it has said.

Shell is also holding a vote on its climate ambitions in May and has come under fire for its plans.

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Teargas utafanya Geza afuate pombe ! Ondoa hii thread ili Geza azidi kuwa Jamii forum juu hii pipeline deal ikienda na maji bila shaka Geza hamutawahi msikia tena JF ,atatokomea kama Ile Ndege ya Malaysia !

 

[KIBAKI GENIOUS]

Kumbe hata pesa ya ujenzi haikuwa imepatikana, na venye a certain Tanzanian politician talked with authority hati ujenzi utaanza mwezi huu ungedhani Tanzania ndio inafund the entire project.

😂😂😂

 

[Nicxie]

Wewe ni mjinga tu, unasema eti bank Crédit Agricole is a second largest shareholder in TOTAL while the fact is, Amundi is a second largest shareholder after BlackRock.
👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽

Amundi, in which Crédit Agricole is the largest shareholder, is the second largest shareholder in Total after BlackRock.

Kiingereza inakusumbua sana ndugu yangu. The bolded part clearly says that Credit Agricole is the largest shareholder in Amundi, the company with the second largest shares in TOTAL.

Kwa ufupi ni kwamba, licha ya kumiliki the second biggest shares in Total, Amundi is also owned by other companies, with Credit Agricole being one of them. I know it's a little confusing but take your time and understand

 

[KIBAKI GENIOUS]

kwa uchumi kiduchu mlonao,,, hamuwezi finance chochote hata mkishirikiana. mbaya zaidi, hamukopesheki. dhiki hizi ndizo zilizokua zikimkasirisha bwana yule (R.I.P) na kujawa na hamaki. mwishowe anakuja na kauli za, ''tunajenga kwa hela zetu za ndani'' ziko wapi hizo hela???
acheni mihemko Mataga. shirikisheni ubongo sometimes.
this time we have our very own humble and smart Mama SSH, I hope all issues will be ironed out.
kila la kheri Mama. nakutakia mafanikio mema.

He😂He😂He😂He

 

[Nicxie]

Hapa unasema kwamba Credit Agricole sio shareholder wa Kampuni ya Total? Ama mimi ndio nimekuelewa vibaya?

This guy is damn confused

 

[King Rabbit]

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