Ukweli mchungu: Tanzania is NOT catching up to Kenya

[Jasmoni Tegga]

Are you insane? I have given you more than GDP in fact I took time to number them for you like I would do for my 4 yr old daughter. Those are statistics from IMF and World bank. Quit the sophistry and look at the information, I am reposting for you. In fact let me add headlines to make it easy for you.

GDP
i) Your economy is a baby compared to Kenya, it is still a backwater economy struggling with a legacy of communism while Kenyan economy is an established market based economy thriving on diversification. Tanzania has a GDP of $64 billion(2020 estimate) while Kenya has a GDP of $109 billion (2020 estimate).

education
ii) Your education is crap, nobody in the world will take you seriously if you mention any Tanzanian university as your alma mater. In fact University of Nairobi is ranked as the Top university in east and central africa, followed by Makerere in Uganda.

Healthcare
iii) Your healthcare is horrible, life expectancy of a kenyan is 4 years more than a Tanzanian and you have higher rate of malnutrition than Kenya, which has led to 40% of your children having stunted growth and over 50% having an ill developed brain into adulthood(I see why you guys always live in LALA land). Also you still need help from doctors without borders in your main referral facility since you guys don't have the brains.

Kenya also has more hospital beds per 1000 people only second to south africa in sub saharan africa, and the second highest number of critical care beds per 1000 people in sub saharan africa after south africa

Infrastructure
iv) Your infrastructure is virtually non existent that is why Kenya is ranked the most developed country in east and central africa and Nairobi as the 4th most developed city in Africa. We have bigger and better roads, bigger and better port (In fact bigger than all your 4 ports combined), we have all our rails functioning (In fact the 200km Nairobi to Nanyuki MGR carries more cargo in a month than TAZARA has hauled in 50 years)

Diplomatic Missions
v)On international diplomacy you have nothing, the Unep HQ is in Kenya. The diplomatic missions of majority of the countries report to Kenya based offices. The largest eu office outside brussels is in Nairobi, the largest american embassy in Afrika is in Nairobi, the israel embassy in Nairobi covers the whole east and central africa.

Inequality

vi) Many tanzanians dream that kenya is extremely unequal compared to Tanzania the facts show the truth. Tanzania has more millionaires than Kenya yet 60% of Tanzanians live below the international poverty line which is $1.9 a day with more living in extreme poverty. In comparison only 32% of Kenyans live below $1.9 a day.

Tanzania like many african countries is chock full of natural resources yet somehow still manages to be a generally poor country, like the DRC (Who have been at war since I can remember), Tanzania has Gold, Tanzanite etc but you can not use these resources to benefit your population. You still remain a poor country.

A lot of FAKE news from mainstream, western-oriented sources and media -- mostly biased and deeply censored. Tanzania is fast booming in terms of social well-being & economic prosperity as compared to Kenya. With our unprecented growth rate, had we a tiny country the size of yours, everyone would have been long lifted out of poverty line.

 

[Cicero]

We are not looking to overtake Kenya we are developing our country to the highest levels (Europe) Kenya is full of corruption, poverty, tribalism, we are not trying to be like you
example you have Diesel SGR we are building electric SGR.to show we are going in different direction

Kwani what is the end goal of economic development?
Going in different directions lakini mwisho wa siku the goal is the same. Sasa kama mwenzako amekuzidi huoni kama kuna haja ya kujitathmini?

 

[Jasmoni Tegga]

People only talk about people who are like them. Uhuru hatambui Magufuli ila magufuli anasumbuliwa na Kenya sana.

Your president never feels composed unless he doubles down his mischaracterization on Dr. Magufuli. I bet he has never regained his salubrity since he disgracefully lost his reelection in 2017.

 

[Cicero]

Mkapa alijitahidi sana 2000-2005

Ila kwa haya mataga na hili lijamaa lililopo sasa,dont even bother kabisa

Tatizo wanalishwa mauongo kila saa na wao wanayameza mazima.......ukiskia samaki kameza bait and hook ndio hii.
Mi 5 tena!
Viva CCM!
Na bado mtazisoma namba!

 

[Cicero]

Mimi nadhani kuna haja ya Watanzania kujiangalia shida iko wapi na nadhani sote tunaijua ila basi tu kuna waganga njaa waliojitoa ufaham kazi kuwaza matumbo yao tu.....Anyway yote maisha!

 

[NairobiWalker]

Your president never feels composed unless he doubles down his mischaracterization on Dr. Magufuli. I bet he has never regained his salubrity since he disgracefully lost his reelection in 2017.

A president who keeps talking about another country is a stupid president with low self esteem.

 

[ofisa]

Hii nayo ni battle nyengine kama nyengine tu.
Infact toka Nyerere yupo alishawahi sifia kuwa Nairob ni kama ulaya.
Lakini leo zaidi ya miaka 50 ya uhuru kila kitu ni Nairob tu maeneo mengine ni kuovyo tu.
TZ popote unapata huduma zile zile kama upi dar tu yaani shule za kata,hospital za kata,bara bara za kata na hata ligi yetu imechangamka kama ya EPL. na soon titaanza kwenye maujenzi ya viwanja výa mpira hizo ni level za mikoa.
Tukija level ya taifa ndio utegemee barabara ndefu zilizokamilika nchi nzima.kwa sasa kenya nairob mombasa kuna vipande havona lami. yaani unatoka dar mbeya zaidi ya km900 lami tupu .Viwanja ndege vya ndani,hospital za rufaa zenye vifaa na vipimo vya kisasa vya maabara

 

[Sinister]

A lot of FAKE news from mainstream, western-oriented sources and media -- mostly biased and deeply censored. Tanzania is fast booming in terms of social well-being & economic prosperity as compared to Kenya. With our unprecented growth rate, had we a tiny country the size of yours, everyone would have been long lifted out of poverty line.

 

[tuusan]

Hii bhangi unavuta ni kali sana. Yani mtu unaota ndoto za kichaa. Ati Tanzania inaongoza Afrika kiuchumi?

Here are the facts:-

i) Your economy is a baby compared to Kenya, it is still a backwater economy struggling with a legacy of communism while Kenyan economy is an established market based economy thriving on diversification. Tanzania has a GDP of $64 billion(2020 estimate) while Kenya has a GDP of $109 billion (2020 estimate).

ii) Your education is crap, nobody in the world will take you seriously if you mention any Tanzanian university as your alma mater. In fact University of Nairobi is ranked as the Top university in east and central africa, followed by Makerere in Uganda.

iii) Your healthcare is horrible, life expectancy of a kenyan is 4 years more than a Tanzanian and you have higher rate of malnutrition than Kenya, which has led to 40% of your children having stunted growth and over 50% having an ill developed brain into adulthood(I see why you guys always live in LALA land). Also you still need help from doctors without borders in your main referral facility since you guys don't have the brains.

iv) Your infrastructure is virtually non existent that is why Kenya is ranked the most developed country in east and central africa and Nairobi as the 4th most developed city in Africa.

v)On international diplomacy you have nothing, the Unep HQ is in Kenya. The diplomatic missions of majority of the countries report to Kenya based offices. The largest eu office outside brussels is in Nairobi, the largest american embassy in Afrika is in Nairobi, the israel embassy in Nairobi covers the whole east and central africa.

Tz and kenya are classified as lower middle income countries this alone can define everything

 

[Naton Jr]

People only talk about people who are like them. Uhuru hatambui Magufuli ila magufuli anasumbuliwa na Kenya sana.

Hahahaha kama lini?
Magufuli always huwa anafanya tu reciprocal of what Kenya started huwa aongezi wala hapunguzi sababu hana time na ninyi

Ninyi ndio mpo overwhelmed na Magufuli sababu Rais wenu ameunda mpaka tume ya Uchunguzi uchaguzi wa Tanzania 😅😅😅

 

[Jasmoni Tegga]

Hahahaha kama lini?
Magufuli always huwa anafanya tu reciprocal of what Kenya started huwa aongezi wala hapunguzi sababu hana time na ninyi

Ninyi ndio mpo overwhelmed na Magufuli sababu Rais wenu ameunda mpaka tume ya Uchunguzi uchaguzi wa Tanzania 😅😅😅View attachment 1629753

"We shall overcome!" ~ Dino Melaye

 

[Mbolabilika]

That is the bitter truth.

Here is the most recent data from the IMF and extrapolation shows Kenya itazidi kuwa mbele ya Tanzania for the foreseeable future. This is by both GDP nominal and GDP Purchasing Power Parity terms.

Can any level-headed person explain this trend. MATAGA and the like this is not for you!

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Kuwa mbele Kwa njaa au kupewa misaada ya chakula na nchi za nje hebu fafanua ueleweke

 

[mkorinto]

People only talk about people who are like them. Uhuru hatambui Magufuli ila magufuli anasumbuliwa na Kenya sana.

[emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]serious???

 

[mbongo_halisi]

This is silly, since when has Tanzania tried to be like Kenya? Her goal is trying to catch up with European countries, not to emulate Kenya.....what is Tanzania going to accomplish being like Kenya....let's be realistic here. Tanzania has so many commodities and other things that Kenya wish to have, it's just a matter of when before the table is flipped for ever. The problem with Tanzania was "Ujamaa" in the 70s to mid 80s, then after that "transition" to capitalism. Kenya never took advantage of this because they were busy hating one another due to tribalism, corruption, undugunization, hunger, etc. Tanzania was a sleeping giant, now it is well up there...wait and see.

 

[mkorinto]

Kwani what is the end goal of economic development?
Going in different directions lakini mwisho wa siku the goal is the same. Sasa kama mwenzako amekuzidi huoni kama kuna haja ya kujitathmini?

mwenzangu amenizidi namba,sio ishu.


elewa kitu mkuu cicero,wewe ni miongoni mwa watz wachache ambao wamekumbwa na kimbunga cha uchaguzi,and thats is your turn.
tunawaelewa sana,ndio maana hatushtuki na tathmini zenu maana hazina uhalisia.
uchumi wa kenya ni allmost mara mbili ya ule wa TZ,the fact kwamba tuna watu mara mbili yao,tulitegemea hali iwe tofauti,mbingu na ardhi field,but the sutuation speek it all.

mpaka tunajiuliza GDP ni nini!!!

 

[The best 007]

Hofu imeanza kuwatawala majirani zetu...

Tena ni hofu kuu alafu wakenya walivyo wajinga wamebaki kujivunia GDP wkt wenzao tunazd kuweka Mambo sawa, ss cku watakapokuja kuona GDP ya tz ndio kubwa watahama humu, c mnakumbuka tulipoingia MIC kuna wakenya wakaacha kucoment humu na wengine wakabadili ID.

 

[mkorinto]

Mimi nadhani kuna haja ya Watanzania kujiangalia shida iko wapi na nadhani sote tunaijua ila basi tu kuna waganga njaa waliojitoa ufaham kazi kuwaza matumbo yao tu.....Anyway yote maisha!

mkuu pole sana kwa yaliyokukuta.

maisha ni kupambana.

 

[The best 007]

Utasikia ng'ombe zikisema kuwa uchumi wetu ni wa kwenye makaratasi

Uchumi wenu ni wa digit mbili km wetu ss mipasho ya nn.

 

[mkorinto]

Hii nayo ni battle nyengine kama nyengine tu.
Infact toka Nyerere yupo alishawahi sifia kuwa Nairob ni kama ulaya.
Lakini leo zaidi ya miaka 50 ya uhuru kila kitu ni Nairob tu maeneo mengine ni kuovyo tu.
TZ popote unapata huduma zile zile kama upi dar tu yaani shule za kata,hospital za kata,bara bara za kata na hata ligi yetu imechangamka kama ya EPL. na soon titaanza kwenye maujenzi ya viwanja výa mpira hizo ni level za mikoa.
Tukija level ya taifa ndio utegemee barabara ndefu zilizokamilika nchi nzima.kwa sasa kenya nairob mombasa kuna vipande havona lami. yaani unatoka dar mbeya zaidi ya km900 lami tupu .Viwanja ndege vya ndani,hospital za rufaa zenye vifaa na vipimo vya kisasa vya maabara

[emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]miaka 10 iliyopita ilikuwa ni utovu wa nidhamu kuitaja Nairobi pamoja na Dar.

leo hii hali ni tofauti kabisa,na bado tunaakbiwa GDP ni mbingu na ardhi.

 

[The best 007]

Sasa kama unataka kujilinganisha na Wazungu mbona usijifunze Kiingereza kwanza?

Alafu kw nn huwa na arguments za ajabu hv? Kingereza co kizungu naomba wakenya wote mjue hili na msirudie huu utopolo mana hamfahamu kabisa kwmb kingereza co kizungu.