Uwanja wa kisasa wa Ndege za Kivita Wazinduliwa Morogoro Tanzania

[Iconoclastes]

Ever never been meet a worthless ideas (garbage) like that in JF forums.

Hehehe.

 

[ojey]

How does this news affects us as Kenyans? We have a bigger military airport with a 4km runway, so hii inatuhusu vipi kwa hii forum ya Kenyans?

 

[Emc2]

How does this news affects us as Kenyans? We have a bigger military airport with a 4km runway, so hii inatuhusu vipi kwa hii forum ya Kenyans?

Prove it.

 

[ojey]

Prove it.

Make Google Your Friend its that simple. Laikipia Airbase runway is longer than all airports in your country.

 

[Emc2]

Make Google Your Friend its that simple. Laikipia Airbase runway is longer than all airports in your country.

Hapa tunaongelea Fighter Jet. Yaani ndege za kivita. Hebu nipatie Military Base ya kwenu yenye kiwanja cha namna hiyo.

 

[ojey]

Uwanja wa kisasa wa Ndege za Kivita Wazinduliwa Morogoro Tanzania Thats the topic of your thread. Mambo ya Jet endelea kudiscuss na marifiki zako.

 

[Emc2]

Uwanja wa kisasa wa Ndege za Kivita Wazinduliwa Morogoro Tanzania Thats the topic of your thread. Mambo ya Jet endelea kudiscuss na marifiki zako.

Huna proof ndiyo maana unaona uzi huu mchungu.

 

[ojey]

Huna proof ndiyo maana unaona uzi huu mchungu.

hahahaha continue being ignorant then, I don't care bro.

 

[Emc2]

hahahaha continue being ignorant then, I don't care bro.

Don't run away. I want to know your military base about weapon jets airport. Tell me, do they use Jomo Kenyatta airport?

 

[3rd man]

Bando= bado.
Punguza POVU
@hivi shuleni ulienda kusomea ujinga?

Mkuu hili bwege balaa,kamanda kila sekta😀

 

[Kafrican]

Hapa tunaongelea Fighter Jet. Yaani ndege za kivita. Hebu nipatie Military Base ya kwenu yenye kiwanja cha namna hiyo.

Don't run away. I want to know your military base about weapon jets airport. Tell me, do they use Jomo Kenyatta airport?

Nimevumilia niangalia ushamba lakini sasa imezidi...yani ile level of ignorance inaonyeshwa hapa hata siamini.... yani ni kama ulizaliwa leo hivi....Please just leave someone else from Tz who knows something about these things to engage... You're not only embarracing yourself but ever tanzanian...this is too much!!!

Sasa hapo, when you say weapon jets airport, what the hell is that language? you clearly grasping at straws just to stay relevant...please, achia mtu mwengine tafadhali, , sketi imefumuka hadharani ukiwa mbele ya jukwaana hakuna mtu amekujulisha.... unajiabisha.. tafadhali kaa chini...

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Naona huu ushenzi wote umeutoa hapa Ngerengere Air Force Base - Wikipedia Nimeona hapo last edited Monday 7th March 2017...masaa kadha baadha ya kunzisha hii thread kijimtu kimeenda ku edit na kuongeza ndege za steath kama moja wepo wa ndege za tz ... Lakini alisahau ku edit na huku pia ambapo inaonyesha ngege zote za Tz Tanzania Air Force Command - Wikipedia


Anyway, to answer some of the questions here..... No advanced first-world country will ever sell their main Stealth fighters to a 3rd world country!!!!! especially if that countrieshas not made any advancements in military technologies in research and development .... China cannot and will never sell something like J-20 to Tanzania in the next 2 decades...infact it will not sell it to anyone
China Rules Out Selling its J-20 Fifth Generation Jet on Global Market
China Rules Out Selling its J-20 Fifth Generation Jet on Global Market

Besides that, even if they were to sell, a country like Tz could never afford....Onejet initial price is $110Million.... remember additional cost in flying these birds can costs yo as much as $25,000 per hour (Every time you fly it for more than 4hours or you fly 4 of them for one hour is like buying a new Lamborghini ) You are better off buying an j-17 or SU-30 or SU-35 which cost around $30-$40Million
Chengdu J-20 - Wikipedia
there are only 4 j-20 built plus 8 prototypes for testing....So even the chinies military itself has not begun using them


The J-31 which has been talked about here is also a stealth multirole fighter is still a prototype concept....only two such planes have been build...it will first be introduced in 2019 and even then it will probably take like 10-15 years before its fully ready for export market outside china
Shenyang J-31 - Wikipedia


The SU-35 4Gen fighter has only been exported to china, Algeria is currently in the testing stage, It wants to buy 9 at a coast of 900Million dollars...this will include trainers, spare parts,training among other things...

the SU-30 is a supermanuvarable 4Gen fighter capable of many things is the one that is in reach for many economies ....Uganda purchased 6 of them in 2012 at a total cost of aroung $600M Sukhoi Su-30 - Wikipedia But Tanzania doesnot have them and has not ordered any.

Remember many countries are interested in many fighter jets, but bieng interested and actually buying are two very distinct things... Even if you had the money in cash right now and you wanted to buyone...It will take you like 4 years before you start receiving them, especially if you havent been using a plane of that platform before.... You will need to be trained or months first, then the manufacturing plant will start production of your orders, then you will need to build the necessary infrastructure (like hangers, new radars, airbase lights)...Inthis case the Su-30 is a russian technology, so if you were on the verge of buying russian planes, it would have bien the russians who would have upgraded your ngerengere airbase and not the CHinies.... So just rule out buying of any Russian jets for the upgraged airbase.

And since we have already ruled out the chinies J-20 or J-31......If Tz were to buy any fighter, the most likely candidate would be the Chines/Pakistani built J-17 which Nigeria is also interested in buying and has already ordered three units.

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Sasa turudi kwa uliyosema hapo juu main topic....... Eti "Viwanja vya namna hiyo ni viwili tu vimejengwa China na hiki kimoja hapa Tanzania."
Unamaanisha nini hapo, wachina hawajajenga hangers au nyumba zozote, hawajaongelea kama wataweka advanced instrument Landing systems mpya..... wamesema wameongeza urefu wa Uwanja kutoka 2,400M mpaka 3000M pekeyake,,,...... hakuna lolote spesheli hapo, hio ni standard ya wachina, viwanja vyao vyote vya ndege za kivita hua ni mita 3000... soma hapa

The report said Fiery Cross was capable of housing a runway about 3,000 meters, well within the parameters of Chinese air force runways.
China Building Runway in South China Sea


Kuna viwanja vingi sana kusini mwa ajangwa la sahara ambavyo ni Zaidi ya mita 3000... Hapa kenya kwa mfano Uwanja wa ndege za kawaida ,moi airport Mombasa runway kubwa ni 3,350M na runway ya pili ndogo ni 1,400M.... Uwanja wa JNIA tz ni 3000m na runway ya pili ni 1000m.....
Moi International Airport - Wikipedia
Julius Nyerere International Airport - Wikipedia


Uwanja wa JKIA una runway moja ya 4,100M Jomo Kenyatta International Airport - Wikipedia Lakini iko mbioni kuongeza Runway ya pili ambayo itakua na urefu wa 5,500M!!!!!
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Tukirudi kwa airforce base ya Kenya kama hio mliojengewa... Laikipia airbase ndio base ya f-5 squadron , Iko na runway mbil, moja ikiwa mita 4,000

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Don't run away. I want to know your military base about weapon jets airport. Tell me, do they use Jomo Kenyatta airport?

Use google maps or google earth, that is what he told, you dont understand?? Military pictures are a treasure to come by, some part can be seen here in the photo

 

[Kafrican]

Use google maps or google earth, that is what he told, you dont understand?? Military pictures are a treasure to come by, some part can be seen here in the photo

there are actually two runways in laikipia airbase, the bigger one is the one that is 4000M...but on goodle earth satelite images, the longer runway is cencored(more like whitewashed), you cun only see a small part of it which shows a verry wide runway.....but you cans till measure the length of the cencored part since you can still see the beginiing and the end of the runway

 

[Emc2]

Nimevumilia niangalia ushamba lakini sasa imezidi...yani ile level of ignorance inaonyeshwa hapa hata siamini.... yani ni kama ulizaliwa leo hivi....Please just leave someone else from Tz who knows something about these things to engage... You're not only embarracing yourself but ever tanzanian...this is too much!!!

Sasa hapo, when you say weapon jets airport, what the hell is that language? you clearly grasping at straws just to stay relevant...please, achia mtu mwengine tafadhali, , sketi imefumuka hadharani ukiwa mbele ya jukwaana hakuna mtu amekujulisha.... unajiabisha.. tafadhali kaa chini...

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Naona huu ushenzi wote umeutoa hapa Ngerengere Air Force Base - Wikipedia Nimeona hapo last edited Monday 7th March 2017...masaa kadha baadha ya kunzisha hii thread kijimtu kimeenda ku edit na kuongeza ndege za steath kama moja wepo wa ndege za tz ... Lakini alisahau ku edit na huku pia ambapo inaonyesha ngege zote za Tz Tanzania Air Force Command - Wikipedia


Anyway, to answer some of the questions here..... No advanced first-world country will ever sell their main Stealth fighters to a 3rd world country!!!!! especially if that countrieshas not made any advancements in military technologies in research and development .... China cannot and will never sell something like J-20 to Tanzania in the next 2 decades...infact it will not sell it to anyone
China Rules Out Selling its J-20 Fifth Generation Jet on Global Market
China Rules Out Selling its J-20 Fifth Generation Jet on Global Market

Besides that, even if they were to sell, a country like Tz could never afford....Onejet initial price is $110Million.... remember additional cost in flying these birds can costs yo as much as $25,000 per hour (Every time you fly it for more than 4hours or you fly 4 of them for one hour is like buying a new Lamborghini ) You are better off buying an j-17 or SU-30 or SU-35 which cost around $30-$40Million
Chengdu J-20 - Wikipedia
there are only 4 j-20 built plus 8 prototypes for testing....So even the chinies military itself has not begun using them


The J-31 which has been talked about here is also a stealth multirole fighter is still a prototype concept....only two such planes have been build...it will first be introduced in 2019 and even then it will probably take like 10-15 years before its fully ready for export market outside china
Shenyang J-31 - Wikipedia


The SU-35 4Gen fighter has only been exported to china, Algeria is currently in the testing stage, It wants to buy 9 at a coast of 900Million dollars...this will include trainers, spare parts,training among other things...

the SU-30 is a supermanuvarable 4Gen fighter capable of many things is the one that is in reach for many economies ....Uganda purchased 6 of them in 2012 at a total cost of aroung $600M Sukhoi Su-30 - Wikipedia But Tanzania doesnot have them and has not ordered any.

Remember many countries are interested in many fighter jets, but bieng interested and actually buying are two very distinct things... Even if you had the money in cash right now and you wanted to buyone...It will take you like 4 years before you start receiving them, especially if you havent been using a plane of that platform before.... You will need to be trained or months first, then the manufacturing plant will start production of your orders, then you will need to build the necessary infrastructure (like hangers, new radars, airbase lights)...Inthis case the Su-30 is a russian technology, so if you were on the verge of buying russian planes, it would have bien the russians who would have upgraded your ngerengere airbase and not the CHinies.... So just rule out buying of any Russian jets for the upgraged airbase.

And since we have already ruled out the chinies J-20 or J-31......If Tz were to buy any fighter, the most likely candidate would be the Chines/Pakistani built J-17 which Nigeria is also interested in buying and has already ordered three units.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Sasa turudi kwa uliyosema hapo juu main topic....... Eti "Viwanja vya namna hiyo ni viwili tu vimejengwa China na hiki kimoja hapa Tanzania."
Unamaanisha nini hapo, wachina hawajajenga hangers au nyumba zozote, hawajaongelea kama wataweka advanced instrument Landing systems mpya..... wamesema wameongeza urefu wa Uwanja kutoka 2,400M mpaka 3000M pekeyake,,,...... hakuna lolote spesheli hapo, hio ni standard ya wachina, viwanja vyao vyote vya ndege za kivita hua ni mita 3000... soma hapa

The report said Fiery Cross was capable of housing a runway about 3,000 meters, well within the parameters of Chinese air force runways.
China Building Runway in South China Sea


Kuna viwanja vingi sana kusini mwa ajangwa la sahara ambavyo ni Zaidi ya mita 3000... Hapa kenya kwa mfano Uwanja wa ndege za kawaida ,moi airport Mombasa runway kubwa ni 3,350M na runway ya pili ndogo ni 1,400M.... Uwanja wa JNIA tz ni 3000m na runway ya pili ni 1000m.....
Moi International Airport - Wikipedia
Julius Nyerere International Airport - Wikipedia


Uwanja wa JKIA una runway moja ya 4,100M Jomo Kenyatta International Airport - Wikipedia Lakini iko mbioni kuongeza Runway ya pili ambayo itakua na urefu wa 5,500M!!!!!
.....


Tukirudi kwa airforce base ya Kenya kama hio mliojengewa... Laikipia airbase ndio base ya f-5 squadron , Iko na runway mbil, moja ikiwa mita 4,000
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Hahahaha!! Yani umenichekesha sana. Unajifanya unajua wakati unatoa data kwenye wikipedia. Kwikwikwikwikwi!! Ndio umeona umeaaandikaaaa. Nataka ulete information sasa ambazo zipo kwenye source ya kuaminika.

 

[Emc2]

Use google maps or google earth, that is what he told, you dont understand?? Military pictures are a treasure to come by, some part can be seen here in the photo

Sasasa hayo makopo tu yanaweza onwa na camera ya simu. Au hujanisoma hayo ni f-5 ya zamaaaani. Ndiyo maana mlifyata mkia mbele ya Uganda.

 

[Kafrican]

Hahahaha!! Yani umenichekesha sana. Unajifanya unajua wakati unatoa data kwenye wikipedia. Kwikwikwikwikwi!! Ndio umeona umeaaandikaaaa. Nataka ulete information sasa ambazo zipo kwenye source ya kuaminika.

Kama hujui kutumia Wikipedia kuchukua info uliza uambiwe.. Enda hapo kwa Wikipedia utafute reference materials zitakupeleka kwa official sites za kuaminika.... Except for hio link ya ngerengere ambapo mtu and edit bila kueka reference.....


Kama kunalolote nililosema abalo hauamini,Wewe leta information ya kupinga hayo nilioyasema....

 

[Emc2]

Kama hujui kutumia Wikipedia kuchukua info uliza uambiwe.. Enda hapo kwa Wikipedia utafute reference materials zitakupeleka kwa official sites za kuaminika.... Except for hio link ya ngerengere ambapo mtu and edit bila kueka reference.....


Kama kunalolote nililosema abalo hauamini,Wewe leta information ya kupinga hayo nilioyasema....

Moja ya taarifa uliyoitoa kwenye wikipedia ni hii hapa:-
Tanzania Air Force Command - Wikipedia

Taarifa zote zilizowekwa wameonesha references ambazo ukizifuata hazipo.
Reference No 1 haipo. Sasa hicho tu kinaonesha namna ya hizo data kwamba ni za kupika.

 

[Kafrican]

Moja ya taarifa uliyoitoa kwenye wikipedia ni hii hapa:-
Tanzania Air Force Command - Wikipedia

Taarifa zote zilizowekwa wameonesha references ambazo ukizifuata hazipo.
Reference No 1 haipo. Sasa hicho tu kinaonesha namna ya hizo data kwamba ni za kupika.

Cooked data Ni Kama Ile imewekwa kwa site ya ngerengere airbase...no external links kabissa...

Hio reference 1 Ni pdf, sometimes sites hu upgrade ama migrate database za website zao Na hio hufanua old links kua obsolete... Kawaida website zengine Hua Na automatic redirection to the new link, lakini kwa link ya kukupeleka pdf ni absolute link....kwahivyo Kama haipati enda kwa hio website Air-Britain - Welcome to Air-Britain manually alafu utafute mwenyewe pdf inayoitwa tanzania

 

[Emc2]

Cooked data Ni Kama Ile imewekwa kwa site ya ngerengere airbase...no external links kabissa...

Hio reference 1 Ni pdf, sometimes sites hu upgrade ama migrate database za website zao Na hio hufanua old links kua obsolete... Kawaida website zengine Hua Na automatic redirection to the new link, lakini kwa link ya kukupeleka pdf ni absolute link....kwahivyo Kama haipati enda kwa hio website Air-Britain - Welcome to Air-Britain manually alafu utafute mwenyewe pdf inayoitwa tanzania

So kama haipo kwanini wewe unatumia kama reference yako. Sasa mimi nifanyeje sasa maana haipo. Nimejaribu kwenda hata kwenye hiyo website sijaona chochote. Kwahiyo taarifa ni ya kupika.

 

[Edward Wanjala]

Sasasa hayo makopo tu yanaweza onwa na camera ya simu. Au hujanisoma hayo ni f-5 ya zamaaaani. Ndiyo maana mlifyata mkia mbele ya Uganda.

Sijui ni lini tulifyata mkia, Lakini hii yenu utasema aje??