Uwezo wa kuongea na wafu: Elimu Iliyoshindikana duniani

[tomjelly]

Thanks a lot mkuu.

Nimeshakipakua hiko tayari na BOOK IV pia. Nataka nimalize kwanza uzi wote each post then ndo niende kwa hizo BUX nizisome.

Education has no boundaries mkuu japo upo kimya kimya we are together aaaaall the way.

You are not alone. And you'll never walk alone mkuu.

Thanks again buddy.

Ok mkuu pamoja sana, Mi mwenyew hii mada niliidakia katikati. Hv sahiz Ndo nimeanza upya page ya kwanza. sitaki kupitwa.

 

[NDUKI]

Aisee kumbe ulimwengu mpana hivi...

Yeap, unaweza ukawa ni mpana ndio.

Lakini sio mpana mkuu ni mpana sana.

Zaidi ya watu waujuavyo.

 

[Mzimu wa Kolelo]

Hivi nilikuwa wap wakt thread hii inaazishwa mzimu ndo mie mfu niliyefufuka

 

[Mzimu wa Kolelo]

Nakwambia usiamini mizimu itakupotezaaaa aliyekufa amekufaaa tuuu ni mchezo wa majiniii

 

[NDUKI]

There is a lot of confusion surrounding the concepts of Reincarnation and Rebirth. At first glance it seems like they are synonyms, but there is a big difference between these two concepts.

Apostle Paul very plainly rejects reincarnation in his letter to the Hebrews. (Hebrews 9:27-28). The Gnostics did believe in reincarnation, but they were squashed after the Council at Nicaea in 325 AD.

The doctrine of reincarnation, also referred to as transmigration, is taught by Hinduism, Jainism and Gnostic Christianity. It's main postulate is that there is an indestructible, eternal, personal element that travels from one life to the next. This element is called atman in the Hindu religion, jiva in the Jain faith and soul by Gnostic Christianity. Reincarnation assumes identity between the occupant of this body and, when this body dies, the occupant of the following body.

Christianity rejects reincarnation for the following reasons.
1. It is contradicted by Scripture (Heb 9:27).
2. It is contradicted by orthodox tradition in all churches.
3. It would reduce the Incarnation (referring to Christ's incarnation) to a mere appearance, the crucifixion to an accident, and Christ to one among many philosophers or avatars. It would also confuse what Christ did with what creatures do: incarnation with reincarnation.
4. It implies that God made a mistake in designing our souls to live in bodies, that we are really pure spirits in prison or angels in costume.
5. It is contradicted by psychology and common sense, for its view of souls as imprisoned in alien bodies denies the natural psychosomatic unity.
6. It entails a very low view of the body, as a prison, a punishment.
7. It usually blames sin on the body and the body's power to confuse and darken the mind. This is passing the buck from soul to body, as well as from will to mind, and a confusion of sin with ignorance.
8. The idea that we are reincarnated in order to learn lessons we failed to learn in a past earthly life is contrary to both common sense and basic educational psychology. I cannot learn something if there is no continuity of memory. I can learn from my mistakes only if I remember them. People do not usually remember these past "reincarnations."
9. The supposed evidence for reincarnation, rememberings from past lives that come out under hypnosis or "past life regression" can be explained-if they truly occur at all-as mental telepathy from other living beings, from the souls of dead humans in purgatory or hell, or from demons. The real possibility of the latter should make us extremely skittish about opening our souls to "past life regressions."

This is all I can say and thank you for tagging me.

Well, nimepata mwanga flani hapa kwenye maelezo yako, na yote ni kwa kuwa tu labda ni kwa sababu hatuwezi kujifunza kitu au makosa tuliyofanya kwa sababu hatuna memory ya yale ambayo tuliyafanya.

Tunaweza tu kujifunza na kujirekebisha kama tu, tutaweza kukumbuka jana yake tulifanya kosa gani ndipo hutupa urahisi wa kujifunza na kujirekebisha juu ya lile kosa tulilofanya ambapo tunakuwa na kumbukumbu ya kile tulichokifanya.

Hii ni kazi ya ubongo na si moyo, ama kwa lugha nyingine ni kazi ya NAFSI/UFAHAM , endapo utakosekana huu UFAHAM ni ngumu kukumbuka nini kilitokea hapo nyuma.

Roho ni uhai ambao unaishi na wala haifi milele lakini haiwezi kuwepo kwenye mwili mwengine then ukakumbuka jana yake kulifanyika kosa gani kwa sababu si kazi ya roho ni kazi ya NAFSI.

SAWA. VIPI KUHUSU REBIRTH...?.

 

[NDUKI]

Kule makaburini kuna roho ziko live kabisa na maisha yanaendelea kama kawa anayebisha anitafute nimpeleke picnic ya bure

Thanks a lot mkuu.

Hii inanihusu kiongozi na si katika kubisha, HAPANA.

Ni kwa sababu niko darasani i hope itakuwa ni moja ya kipindi ntatakiwa nikasome ili niweze ku-connect dots.

Thanks again & again mkuu.

 

[NDUKI]

Naomba mimi niwe wa kwanza kutoamini maisha ya makaburini.
Naomba nipeleke katika hiyo picnic mshana jr

Naomba mshindonyuma [feedback] juu ya hili tafadhali...!.

Natanguliza shukran.

 

[NDUKI]

Ok mkuu pamoja sana, Mi mwenyew hii mada niliidakia katikati. Hv sahiz Ndo nimeanza upya page ya kwanza. sitaki kupitwa.

Thanks buddy. Welcome.

Am here still. Nime-gain baadhi ya vitu and i hope you'll gain pia.

Go through this. Welcome Again.

 

[NDUKI]

Basically there is a very slight different between soul spirit n mind because they are all doing almost same things

Hapa sjaelewa umeniacha kidogo mkuu, mind & soul can do the same things...?, well, ni kama ipi na ipi na ipi labda kiongozi...?.

and in addition they cannot be seen touched or modified in any way they are simply an energy
What I can say is soul can stand on its own but to have 'a mind' you must have a conscious soul in the live body

Kama zinaweza fanya kazi sawa inawezekana basi mind ikafanya kazi ya soul au soul ikafanya kazi ya mind au nimeelewaje hapa...?.

Na pia kwa nini tuhitaji soul ili mind iweze kufanya kazi wakati soul inaweza ika-stand on its own bila ya kuwepo mind na soul ikaendelea ku-survive bila ya uhitaji wa mind...?.

NIPO DARASANI MKUU. THANKS.

 

[NDUKI]

Karibu adebisi na sio mbaya kujongea nasi ili uweze kufahamu ulimwengu wa Giza na jinsi nguvu za Giza zinavyotumika kwa kuwa mi nilikabidhiwa bure na marehemu mzee wangu nami nitawafundisha bure kikubwa usiwe mwoga tu kwa Yale utakayoyaona

Naomba mshindonyuma [feedback] juu ya hili mkuu.

Natanguliza shukran. Thanks mkuu.

 

[tomjelly]

Thanks buddy. Welcome.

Am here still. Nime-gain baadhi ya vitu and i hope you'll gain pia.

Go through this. Welcome Again.

Nimepitia thread yote, hatimaye nimejikuta nabadilisha mitazamo nliyojengewa toka awali. thanks mtoa mada

 

[Mshana Jr]

Mkuu mshana jr unaikumbuka hii, heh heh...





























Sjacheka the way nilivyocheka kwenye post za jamaa hata skumbuki mara ya mwisho nimecheka hivi ni lini aseee.

Jamaa kaniongezea UHAI leo kiasi flani mkuu dah, NI HATARI SANA.

THAT'S WHY I LOVE THIS PLACE | JF.

Hahahaaa kwakweli mpaka leo sijui ilikuwa ni kitu gani kile

 

[Mshana Jr]

Hapa sjaelewa umeniacha kidogo mkuu, mind & soul can do the same things...?, well, ni kama ipi na ipi na ipi labda kiongozi...?.


Zote zinafanya kazi moja tu ya ufahamu kwenye kila kitu katika mwili wa binadamu

Kama zinaweza fanya kazi sawa inawezekana basi mind ikafanya kazi ya soul au soul ikafanya kazi ya mind au nimeelewaje hapa...?.

Na pia kwa nini tuhitaji soul ili mind iweze kufanya kazi wakati soul inaweza ika-stand on its own bila ya kuwepo mind na soul ikaendelea ku-survive bila ya uhitaji wa mind...?.

NIPO DARASANI MKUU. THANKS.

Soul ni roho ambayo kimsingi ni energy, roho haifi, na ikimtoka mtu ndio tunaita kifo, na inaweza kwenda popote na kuingia kwenye mwili Wowote
Wakati ufahamu ni lazima kuwepo na roho kwenye mwili hai, ndio ufahamu unaweza kufanya kazi

 

[MLALUKO JR]

Only in Africa ndipo watu wanaweza kupoteza muda namna hii.Sijaona hoja ya maana hapa kuhusu wafu.Ukisha kufa umekufa hakuna kuongea kinafsi wala chochote ,kinachobaki ni hisia zenu mliobaki tu zinazoongozwa na emotions.

Niwape mfano mmoja unaohusiana na hicho mkisemacho hasa pale kwamba marehem anaacha wosia.,mfano marehemu aache wosia kwamba akifa azikwe kijijini kwao Lindi lakini kwa bahati mbaya kafia majini akiwa safarini kwenda znz.Kutokana na mait yake kuharibuka serikal ikaamua wazikwe kabur la pamoja huko znz.,Hakuna chochote kitakacho tokea kinachohusiana na maneno /maagizo ya marehemu.

Wakati mwingine mnatakiwa mfikiria kama watu mlioko karne ya 21 na msiturudishe nyuma.Hivyo vitu vingine ni kuendekeza tu na kuendelea kufanya jamii kuwa maskini kwa fikra za zamani.

Only in Africa ambapo utaona mtu anamshika mtu kichwa na kutamka et shetani toka kisha mtu yule akaanza kurusha miguu juu.Huu ni upuuzi na umaskini wa mawazo,kwani ni waafrica tu ndiyo walio na majini?.Hii ni hatar sana.

Only in africa ndipo utakuwa watu wameacha kufanya kazi ama kupumzika na familia zao wameenda kukusanyana wakisali ,kuimba na kutoa pesa huku wakiamini kwamba wanaondolewa dhambi zao na eti wakifa wataenda mbinguni.

NKUONA KM MJENZI HURU IVIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!&

 

[Bill Cosby]

Gwajima alidai anaweza kufufua wafu .unafiki wake uliishia pale walipokufa watoto kanisani kwake.
Mavi debe ikabidi akaeleze kilicho tokea.
Hana uwezo wa Kufufua hata Nzi. Tapeli mkubwa.
Kazi kuibia ma mbulumundu tu (kondoo)

 

[Mshana Jr]

Gwajima alidai anaweza kufufua wafu .unafiki wake uliishia pale walipokufa watoto kanisani kwake.
Mavi debe ikabidi akaeleze kilicho tokea.
Hana uwezo wa Kufufua hata Nzi. Tapeli mkubwa.
Kazi kuibia ma mbulumundu tu (kondoo)

Na yule TiibiiJei

 

[JOYCE PAUL]

duh hii elimu ulijifunzia sehemu au kipawa kutoka kwa mungu?

Iko hivi sikuwa anakataa live bali wakati wa kumvisha kama ni koti shati au hata suruali kuna kiungo kimoja hukakamaa kwa mfano kama ni mkono haunyanyuki au haukunjiki, kama ni mguu unajipinda au unakuwa mzito kunyanyua
Hivi vitu vinafanyika kwa namna ya ajabu na ya kipekee kabisa

Vilevile kuna kukosea vifungo au zipu kujichanganya! Yani mnaanza kufunga kifungo cha kwanza vizuri kabisa mkifika mwisho aidha vimepishana au mmeruka matundu, tulishawahi kukosea vifungo Mara SABA
Ni mpaka nilipotumia elimu niliyojifunza kuongea na marehemu kwa upole na kwa kumbembeleza ndio mambo yakawa sawa, na pia ndani ya chumba husika kama yupo mtu alikuwa na ugomvi na marehemu hakuna kitakachokwenda sawa hapo mpaka yule mtu atoke

iii

 

[Mshana Jr]

duh hii elimu ulijifunzia sehemu au kipawa kutoka kwa mungu?

iii

The world is full of mysterious things don't hesistate to learn anything BUT DONT try to practice everything

 

[Bwana Bima]

hizo zote ni propaganda za uongo za shetani kutaka kuwawekea watu hofu na kupotosha ukweli.huenda yanayozungumzwa ikawa kweli lakini mambo hayo hufanywa na shetani.kumbukeni katika bustani ya eden shetani alipinga amri ya mungu kuhusu kula tunda na madhara yake kwa kusema "hakika hamtakufa" lakini ukweli ulikuja kujulikana na Adam na hawa walikufa.huyo mwovu anataka kuindeleza propaganda yake watu waamini kua hata mtu anapokufa bado anaishi jambo ambalo ni kinyume na andiko la Ezekiel 18:4 tukitambua kua sisi wote tuna dhambi tuliorithi kupitia Adam. pia hao sijui mizuka au watu waliokufa hawana uwezo Wa kufanya lolote soma mhubiri 9:5,6,10 hawana uwezo Wa kutufanya lolote. hao wapo kaburini wanasubiri ufufuo soma Yohana 5:28,29. kwa mkataa huo roho inakufa na hakuna utofauti kati ya nafsi na mwili ni kitu kimoja na vyote hufa. wanasubiri siku ya ufufuo.nasubiri maswali yenu ila naombeni hoja yangu muifikirie kwa uzito kwani inapatana na akili kabisa

 

[Mshana Jr]

hizo zote ni propaganda za uongo za shetani kutaka kuwawekea watu hofu na kupotosha ukweli.huenda yanayozungumzwa ikawa kweli lakini mambo hayo hufanywa na shetani.kumbukeni katika bustani ya eden shetani alipinga amri ya mungu kuhusu kula tunda na madhara yake kwa kusema "hakika hamtakufa" lakini ukweli ulikuja kujulikana na Adam na hawa walikufa.huyo mwovu anataka kuindeleza propaganda yake watu waamini kua hata mtu anapokufa bado anaishi jambo ambalo ni kinyume na andiko la Ezekiel 18:4 tukitambua kua sisi wote tuna dhambi tuliorithi kupitia Adam. pia hao sijui mizuka au watu waliokufa hawana uwezo Wa kufanya lolote soma mhubiri 9:5,6,10 hawana uwezo Wa kutufanya lolote. hao wapo kaburini wanasubiri ufufuo soma Yohana 5:28,29. kwa mkataa huo roho inakufa na hakuna utofauti kati ya nafsi na mwili ni kitu kimoja na vyote hufa. wanasubiri siku ya ufufuo.nasubiri maswali yenu ila naombeni hoja yangu muifikirie kwa uzito kwani inapatana na akili kabisa

Umeongea kwa upande mmoja na uko sahihi kabisa lakini kwenye uhalisia duniani ina pande nyingi