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Mbona Wanaume wa Ukraine hawajakimbia nchi yao?
Mbona Wanaume wa Ukraine hawajakimbia nchi yao?Hata humu Tz ikitokea hali kama hiyo ya Urusi watakimbia. Hii ni kwa sababu kipindi cha bata wanapata nafasi za kuingia jeshini kwa mbinde, kipindi cha vita ndo wanapelekwa kwa amri.
Hao ndo walikimbia mapema sana. Waliobahatika walitoka, waliochelewa wakaambiwa mpakani wataruhusiwa kutoka wanawake na watoto tu. Ungekuwa makini kipindi kile vita inaanza hili jambo ungekuwa unalifahamu mkuu.Mbona Wanaume wa Ukraine hawajakimbia nchi yao?
Jitolee wewe ukapigane upande wa Russia basi kama ni propagandaPropaganda...
Mipaka ilifungwa, wanawake, watoto na wazee pekee ndo wakiruhusiwa Kutoka nje, waliobaki vitani Hadi nw.Mbona Wanaume wa Ukraine hawajakimbia nchi yao?
Tofautisha jeshi la ulinzi na amani na jeshi la frontline, kwenda frontline hata wakitangaziwa wabongo huwezi ona kuna boya anajitokeza.Hii dunia vituko haviishi
Vijana wa Tanzania hupigana vikumbo kila ikitokea fursa za kujiunga na Jeshi kila mmoja akitaka apate nafasi
Urusi mambo ni tofauti maelfu ya Wanaume wako mpakani mwa Finland, Sweden, German na Gorgia wakikimbia kuingizwa Kwenye Jeshi la akiba
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Umewaza kama Mimi,huu ujinga ukome..wakati wa amani wanataka wale mema ya majeshi peke yao wakati wa vita tuhenyeke wote
Huku si wanajua wanaishia kula mshahara bila mabomuHii dunia vituko haviishi
Vijana wa Tanzania hupigana vikumbo kila ikitokea fursa za kujiunga na Jeshi kila mmoja akitaka apate nafasi
Urusi mambo ni tofauti maelfu ya Wanaume wako mpakani mwa Finland, Sweden, German na Gorgia wakikimbia kuingizwa Kwenye Jeshi la akiba
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Amani ni kitu cha maana sana Watanzania tuitunzeHata humu Tz ikitokea hali kama hiyo ya Urusi watakimbia. Hii ni kwa sababu kipindi cha bata wanapata nafasi za kuingia jeshini kwa mbinde, kipindi cha vita ndo wanapelekwa kwa amri.
Wewe unashiriki ulinzi shirikishi mtaani kwako?Umewaza kama Mimi,huu ujinga ukome..
Pesa ambayo wamekuwa wakilipwa ndio wakati wa kwenda kuifanyia Kazi Sasa..
Ule pesa wewe afu kwenye vita niende mimi? Acheni undezi.
NdioWewe unashiriki ulinzi shirikishi mtaani kwako?
Watu humu jf utakuta wanaishabikia Russia wakati Russia wenyewe wote hawana imani tena na Rais wao kwa mkenge aliowaingiza, kawaingiza raia wake choo cha kike, sasa tafran imeanza namtazamia Putin kusababisha fujo Urusi na mambo kuanza kwenda mrama zaidi kwake kuweza ku-stabilize hii situation. Huenda ndio mwisho dikteta putin,Wengi wamepokea barua wahudhurie usaili, ila kunao wasiokua na ujuzi wowote wa kijeshi amba pia wamepokea, na ni hatia kutotii hiyo amri. Kunao wameapa bora wajijeruhi hata kama itabidi kujivunga ungo lolote mguu au mkono.
Kuna mapolisi yanazunguka mlango kwa mlango kufuata wote waliotumiwa hizo barua.
Warusi wajilaumu wenyewe kwenye hii kadhia, maana Putin alipoanza kuivamia Ukraine, wao waliendelea na maisha kama kawaida, hawakujua kwa namna fulani hii shughuli itawakuta, walidhani nchi yao supapawa kama Marekani ambaye hupigana mbali huku raia wake wakiendelea kula pizza na burgers.
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'I will break my arm, my leg... anything to avoid the draft'
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For many Russian men the Kremlin's decision to call up 300,000 military reservists for the war in Ukraine came as a shock.
In the big cities, Russia's seven-month war on its neighbour has always seemed a long way away. But as soon as President Vladimir Putin's address was over, it hit home. Being sent into combat was closer than anyone could have imagined.
Office messaging chats exploded with anxious discussions of what would happen next. Plans were made on how to avoid being sent to the front line.
"It was like a sci-fi movie from the 1980s. A bit scary to be honest with you," says Dmitry, 28, who works in an office in St Petersburg. Staff could not start their working day, glued to the speech on their TV, computer and mobile phone screens.
He excused himself from the office after lunch and went to exchange roubles for dollars at a nearby bank.
Dmitry moved house after he was paid a police visit for taking part in an anti-war rally - believing it would be harder for authorities to find him.
"I am not certain what to do next: jump on the next plane abroad or stay in Russia a bit longer and get chased by the cops at a couple of anti-war rallies."
Sergei - not his real name - has already been called up.
A 26-year-old PhD student and lecturer at a prominent Russian university, he was expecting a delivery of groceries the night before the Putin address when the doorbell rang. Instead, he was faced with two men in civilian clothes who handed him military papers and asked him to sign.
The BBC has a copy of these documents, asking him to attend a draft centre on Thursday.
Sergey, a PhD student with no combat experience, was handed military papers after Putin announced a partial mobilisation© BBC
The Kremlin said only people who had done their military service and had special skills and combat experience would be called up. But Sergei has no military experience and his stepfather is worried, as dodging the draft is a criminal offence in Russia.
The stepfather works in a state oil company and hours later he was asked to provide a list of staff who had a legal exemption from military service.
Most Russian men do not, so many have been seeking ways to avoid the call-up.
In Moscow, Vyacheslav says he and his friends started looking for medical connections to help.
"Mental health or treatment for drug addiction look like good, cheap or perhaps even free options," he said.
"If you are stoned and get arrested while driving, hopefully you will get your licence taken away and will have to undergo treatment. You can't be certain but hopefully this will be enough to avoid being taken [into the army]."
His brother-in-law narrowly avoided the draft because he was not at home when officials came calling. His mother saw the documents, which demanded he report for duty between 19 and 23 September.
"He has now locked himself in one room and refuses to come out," says Vyacheslav. "He has two tiny kids aged three and one: what is he supposed to do?"
Another man, from Kaliningrad, told the BBC he would do anything to avoid being drafted: "I will break my arm, my leg, I will go to prison, anything to avoid this whole thing."
Some of the anti-war protesters who took to the streets on Wednesday were handed military draft papers© Getty Images
Thousands of Russians attended anti-war protests in cities across Russia on Wednesday night. Many said they were handed call-up papers either in the street or later in police detention.
Human rights organisation OVD-Info listed up to 10 police stations in Moscow alone where protesters were given their papers. At least one man in Moscow's Vernadsky district refused to sign and was threatened with a criminal case.
One woman told the independent Mediazona website that her husband was detained at an anti-war protest in Arbat in central Moscow. He was taken to a police station, handed call-up papers and signed them as he was being videoed by the police. He was told to turn up to be drafted on Thursday.
Mikhail, 25, had left Russia for neighbouring Georgia at the start of the war and only returned to his small hometown in the Urals for a few days. He had planned to go back but is now worried by President Putin's nuclear weapons threat and will stay in Russia, close to his family.
"We're in a state of panic. In my town many have already received call-up papers but I am not registered to live here so won't get them."
He had recently secured a good job in Tbilisi but now sees it as pointless because of Vladimir Putin's military escalation.
"On 21 September, he managed to destroy even the mess he first made on 24 February [the start of the invasion]," Mikhail said. "I've stopped caring completely, I only live for today."
Uko hakuna kushobokea kwenda jeshi kama bongo😂😂Wengi wamepokea barua wahudhurie usaili, ila kunao wasiokua na ujuzi wowote wa kijeshi amba pia wamepokea, na ni hatia kutotii hiyo amri. Kunao wameapa bora wajijeruhi hata kama itabidi kujivunga ungo lolote mguu au mkono.
Kuna mapolisi yanazunguka mlango kwa mlango kufuata wote waliotumiwa hizo barua.
Warusi wajilaumu wenyewe kwenye hii kadhia, maana Putin alipoanza kuivamia Ukraine, wao waliendelea na maisha kama kawaida, hawakujua kwa namna fulani hii shughuli itawakuta, walidhani nchi yao supapawa kama Marekani ambaye hupigana mbali huku raia wake wakiendelea kula pizza na burgers.
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'I will break my arm, my leg... anything to avoid the draft'
View attachment 2365174
For many Russian men the Kremlin's decision to call up 300,000 military reservists for the war in Ukraine came as a shock.
In the big cities, Russia's seven-month war on its neighbour has always seemed a long way away. But as soon as President Vladimir Putin's address was over, it hit home. Being sent into combat was closer than anyone could have imagined.
Office messaging chats exploded with anxious discussions of what would happen next. Plans were made on how to avoid being sent to the front line.
"It was like a sci-fi movie from the 1980s. A bit scary to be honest with you," says Dmitry, 28, who works in an office in St Petersburg. Staff could not start their working day, glued to the speech on their TV, computer and mobile phone screens.
He excused himself from the office after lunch and went to exchange roubles for dollars at a nearby bank.
Dmitry moved house after he was paid a police visit for taking part in an anti-war rally - believing it would be harder for authorities to find him.
"I am not certain what to do next: jump on the next plane abroad or stay in Russia a bit longer and get chased by the cops at a couple of anti-war rallies."
Sergei - not his real name - has already been called up.
A 26-year-old PhD student and lecturer at a prominent Russian university, he was expecting a delivery of groceries the night before the Putin address when the doorbell rang. Instead, he was faced with two men in civilian clothes who handed him military papers and asked him to sign.
The BBC has a copy of these documents, asking him to attend a draft centre on Thursday.
Sergey, a PhD student with no combat experience, was handed military papers after Putin announced a partial mobilisation© BBC
The Kremlin said only people who had done their military service and had special skills and combat experience would be called up. But Sergei has no military experience and his stepfather is worried, as dodging the draft is a criminal offence in Russia.
The stepfather works in a state oil company and hours later he was asked to provide a list of staff who had a legal exemption from military service.
Most Russian men do not, so many have been seeking ways to avoid the call-up.
In Moscow, Vyacheslav says he and his friends started looking for medical connections to help.
"Mental health or treatment for drug addiction look like good, cheap or perhaps even free options," he said.
"If you are stoned and get arrested while driving, hopefully you will get your licence taken away and will have to undergo treatment. You can't be certain but hopefully this will be enough to avoid being taken [into the army]."
His brother-in-law narrowly avoided the draft because he was not at home when officials came calling. His mother saw the documents, which demanded he report for duty between 19 and 23 September.
"He has now locked himself in one room and refuses to come out," says Vyacheslav. "He has two tiny kids aged three and one: what is he supposed to do?"
Another man, from Kaliningrad, told the BBC he would do anything to avoid being drafted: "I will break my arm, my leg, I will go to prison, anything to avoid this whole thing."
Some of the anti-war protesters who took to the streets on Wednesday were handed military draft papers© Getty Images
Thousands of Russians attended anti-war protests in cities across Russia on Wednesday night. Many said they were handed call-up papers either in the street or later in police detention.
Human rights organisation OVD-Info listed up to 10 police stations in Moscow alone where protesters were given their papers. At least one man in Moscow's Vernadsky district refused to sign and was threatened with a criminal case.
One woman told the independent Mediazona website that her husband was detained at an anti-war protest in Arbat in central Moscow. He was taken to a police station, handed call-up papers and signed them as he was being videoed by the police. He was told to turn up to be drafted on Thursday.
Mikhail, 25, had left Russia for neighbouring Georgia at the start of the war and only returned to his small hometown in the Urals for a few days. He had planned to go back but is now worried by President Putin's nuclear weapons threat and will stay in Russia, close to his family.
"We're in a state of panic. In my town many have already received call-up papers but I am not registered to live here so won't get them."
He had recently secured a good job in Tbilisi but now sees it as pointless because of Vladimir Putin's military escalation.
"On 21 September, he managed to destroy even the mess he first made on 24 February [the start of the invasion]," Mikhail said. "I've stopped caring completely, I only live for today."
Hali ni tofauti sana katika nchi mbili ulizotaja za Urusi na Tanzania. Kuwa mwanajeshi Urusi siyo fursa wala ajira, ni msala! Kwa hapa Tanzania, jeshi ni ajira moja ya uhakika sana, ukiingia unajihakikishia ajira salama, kwa kazi ambayo katika maisha yako yote ya kupanda vyeo na kulipwa vizuri wala hutaifanya kazi hiyo na utastaafu kwa heshima. Imagine watu walioingia jeshini 1992 leo hii wametimiza miaka 30 ya ajira bila kuhusika katika vita yoyote, na wengine wamestaafu bila kufyatua risasi yoyote nje ya viwanja vya mazoezi, zile za kulenga picha iliyochorwa kwenye karatasi ngumu umbali wa mita 100.Hii dunia vituko haviishi
Vijana wa Tanzania hupigana vikumbo kila ikitokea fursa za kujiunga na Jeshi kila mmoja akitaka apate nafasi
Urusi mambo ni tofauti maelfu ya Wanaume wako mpakani mwa Finland, Sweden, German na Gorgia wakikimbia kuingizwa Kwenye Jeshi la akiba
Niko nafuatilia al jazeera news
Jumaa kareem!