Wakatoliki huwa wanapenyezaje watu wao kuwa Marais wa Tanzania?

Baba jayaron said:

Kwan statistics hazibadiliki??

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Mfano lini kanisa la Gwajima limeanza na uchaguzi mkuu umefanyika mara ngapi likiwepo ili litoe mgombea.
TAG ilianza lini, EAGT ilianza lini, Efatha je. Na hizo zote zina waamini wangapi. Dar yenyewe kuna majimbo unakuta kanisa la EAGT ni mawili jimbo zima na kuna wilaya hakuna kanisa kabisa. Sasa hao ndio unasema statistics imekua, na kumbuka ni marais wanne tu tumepata. Unategemea chama kisimamishe mgombea anasali Efatha wanakijiji wa Ikungulyabashashi wajue ni dini gani, si watajua ni ya shetani

Mbekenga said:

Kuna uzi humu kwamba Katoliki ndo walianzisha uislamu kuwadhibiti Wayahudi. Katoliki na Waislamu lao ni moja.

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Acha tabia ya kuamini maneno ya vijiweni Ukatoriki na Uislam wapi na wapi?

Yaani hilo ndo tatizo lenu warokore yaani huwa hamtaki kushughulisha akili zenu chochote mnacho kisikia huwa mnameza tu.
Na ndio maana hata wachungaji wenu huwa wanawaaminisha mambo ya ajabu na mnayaamini.

butron said:

Ndiyo waliomsaidia na kumsomesha Nyerere, Kwaiyo Wakulungwa wengine wanapita mulemule.
Ukiwa Muislamu basi sharti uwe vuguvugu na sio design ya kina Sheikh Ponda!

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Nchi nyingi zinaongozwa na moderate muslims hata za Kiislamu. Mtu yeyote anayezingatia sana dini hana uwezo wa kuongoza nchi kwa ufasaha labda iwe ni ya dini yake tu. Egypt waliipiga marufuku Muslim Brotherhood na Morsi ndio alikuwa kiongozi wa kwanza chama hicho kuwa Rais katika nchi za Kiarabu, Saudia Arabia nako ni marufuku. Kwanini hizo ni nchi za Kiislamu sizikubaliane na hicho chama.
Radical islam ndio ile ya Taliban ya kuzuia watoto wa kike kwenda shule na kutandika viboko watu wasioswali azana ikilia. Hao ni Sheikh Ponda and co.

Na Nyerere alisomeshwa na Waingereza ambao dini ya serikali ni Anglicans. Kama ingekuwa ni kusaidiwa basi tungekuwa tunaongozwa na Anglikana kama Uingereza ilivyo.

Kwanza kwanini tutumie statistics ya watu watano kwa miaka zaidi ya 60. Haileti mantiki labda tungekuwa na marais 10 na kuendelea. Hata tutazame makanisa makuu kila jimbo tuyalinganishe kila dhehebu na tulinganishe misikiti mikuu. Wenye namba kubwa ndio wanaonekana kwenye vitu vingi

Shukuru muyobhozi said:

Alaa? Ndio maana ilivunjwa EAMWS kwa kisingizio cha Mlezi Aga khan ni Shia, Mohamed Said hawa wanafunzi wako wako hapa uwedurusishe kunako uga wa siasa wa nchi hii, huwa unatukosha

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The East African Muslim Welfare Society​

Mawlana Hazar Imam, His Highness the Aga Khan, receives an address of welcome from leaders representing the East African Muslim Welfare Society during his ceremonial installation at Nairobi as the 49th Imam of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims; October 22, 1957. Photo: Special 21st Birthday Souvenir.

I will give you the help that should satisfy everybody here. I shall double whatever you will collect for the cause of Islam; that is if you will contribute £1 for the erection of mosques and schools and for Tabligh, I will give you a personal donation of £1 from myself and make the sum of £2!!”

Thus declared the late Highness Sir Sultan Mohamed Shah Agakhan Ill, when in that historic year 1945, His late Highness laid the foundation of the East African Muslim Welfare Society, which has done so much since then for the uplift and general welfare of the African Muslims, in the East African Territories. Speaking at the Annual General meeting of the Society in Mombasa on Saturday 16th November, 1957, which was attended by His Highness Karim Aga Khan, Mr. Abdulkarim Y. A. Karimjee, the President of the Society said:

“As your Highness is aware, this unique and unparalleled institution was conceived as far back as 1937 in a conference of Muslim leaders of Nairobi and was reorganised with vim and vigour in the subsequent Muslim Conference at Mombasa 1945 under the chairmanship of His late Highness Sir Sultan Mohamed Shah Aga Khan.

“The stirring, inspiring and eloquent words of our noble Founder, the late Sir Sultan Mohamed Shah, are still ringing in our ears and his generosity in offering pound for pound in doubling its funds is responsible for the wonderful and far-reaching work the society has been able to do since that time to this date.

“In all, we have so far collected 9,000,000/- of which 4,000,000/- has been so generously donated by our kind-hearted late Founder. We have been able to build 150 mosques, including the magnificent mosques of Kibuli, Kisumu, Tanga and Zanzibar, and 150 schools including three secondary schools and a teachers’ training college

“The ideals we have been pursuing are not only to help Muslims in their religious sphere but to see that we produce enlightened, capable, devout and progressive Muslims who can start shoulder to shoulder with other communities and conspicuously play their part in the development of these East African territories in all fields — religious, social, economic, industrial, cultural and above all humanitarian. We hope to carry out our above aims with Your Highness’s lead, direction and advice.”

READ more : His Highness the Aga Khan: The 49th Ismaili Imam’s Historic Installation Ceremonies from an Extremely Rare East African Ismaili Souvenir

Wakatoliki hawajaanza leo kufanya siasa. Miaka hiyo hadi mapapa walipigana vita.

t blj said:

Wakatoliki huwa wana mipango mingi sana nyuma ta pazia , na raisi akiwa mkatoliki huwa wanapenda pia kumtumia kwa maslahi ya kanisa .
JFK,, raisi pekee mkatoliki aliyehudumu USA. na inasemekana CIA walinusa mipango ya kanisa kuingliia mifumo ya serikali , na inaaminika ni moja ya sababu ya kifo cha JFK ,lengo likiwa ninkunusuru madhara ya maamuzi ya kanisa kwenye serikali.
Ngunu sana kwa mkatoliki kutawala USA

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Vipi kuhusu Joe Biden sio mkatoliki?

MTAZAMO said:

Imagine muwe na Rais anasali Free Church! Bishop wake Mkandamizaji!

Makanisa mengine ukifatilia vizuri unagundua wamiliki halisi ni individuals wapo Marekani, South Africa n.k, Rais anaweza kuendesha nchi kwa maono ya mtu anajiita nabii kumbe mchongo.

Lutheran, Anglican n.k wapo organised wanaweza kutoa Rais ila hawa wa mwendokasi "Unstoppable Fire church" "Jesus Power church' "double touch anointing church" na picha za baba na mama mchungaji kwenye mabango hapana!

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Anglican ni kama wamejifia kiaina,Lutheran ni wabaguzi wao kwa wao wanatwangana kanisani hawafai.

Nawaza tu wakinafulani wapate urais, itakua hapatoshi

Slowly said:

Sio kupenyeza Iko wazi Raisi lazima awe mkatoliki, ni mashart ambayo yapo wazi na hakuna wa kupinga

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[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] hii nchi kila mtu aendelee kula useful wa kamba yake mama anaupiga mwingiiii.

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Stroke said:

Wakatoliki Wana maekari kwa malefu ya maekari.

Hivyo lazima wale top mmoja wao atoke kwao ili kulinda maslahi yao.

Marekani kwa kipindi cha zaidi ya miaka 200 Biden ndio Rais wa kwanza mkatoliki kumaliza muda wake. Baada yaa JFK. Kuwa terminated...

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Akili za kipuuzi hizi na marais waislam wanalinda maslahi ya nani?

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Mdemalafu said:

Waamini waka Catholic hawana ubaguzi na hawatumii mihemko, they use logic na kujali na kuheshimu uhuru wa imani za watu wengine. Anaweza msaidia mtu wa imani nyungine bila kujali. Ila sisi tunaojiita wapendwa tunaroho mbaya za ubaguzi wa kidini.

Unakuta hata kuolewa/kuoa tuwe kwa wenyewe, huu msemo unakuta tuko somewhere tunaitana wewe ni MKKKT mwenzangu etc. Sijawahi wasikia wa Catholic wakiitana kiubaguzi hivyo. Unaweza kaa na mkatolic na usijue anasali wapi lakn sisi lazima tuulize et unaabudu wapi?..nk.
Ndo maana Mungu anatunyima nafasi za kuongoza nchi, tutaleta ubaguzi

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Mbona yule Mkatoliki wa Chatle alikuwa Mbaguzi sana?au alijipachika ukatoliki?

bronze said:

Vipi kuhusu Joe Biden sio mkatoliki?

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Biden ni mkatoliki wa pili Baada ya JFK , na imepita miaka 50 plus ! Na bado hajamaliza utawala wake .
Kuna uwezekana pia CIA hawaoni tena threat ya kanisa katoliki

Tanzania ingekua imeshafikisha hata marais 30 na wote wakawa wakatoliti hoja yako ingekua na mashiko.sasa marais wenyewe 6 tu wakati safari bado ndefu sana.hii hoja imekuja mapema kwahiyo ni ngumu kupata majibu sahihi.kwasababu wakristo wote waliogombea ndio wakiopitishwa na Ccm kugombea nandio waliokua na afadhali kuliko wagombea wengine uko kwenye chama chao.Kwa sasa mimi nadhani ni incidence tu.Tuupe muda nafasi utatupa majibu sahihi.

Kyenyabasa said:

Hapa yawezekana umesema ukkwl haya madhehebu ni ya kibaguzi mnooo!! Ebu fikiria msabato apate urais

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Kwani wasabato wako tanzania tu.Au tanzania tu ndo kuna rais?.Marais wako dunia nzima na wako wa madini mbalimbali hadi wasio na dini wapo.kwahiyo mapungufu yetu ya ndani tusiyajumuishe kwenye mambo yanayohusu dunia nzima.

Moisemusajiografii said:

Umeelewa alichokiandika?Na unaielewa katiba ya sasa inavyompa mamlaka makubwa Rais aliyepo madarakani kama hana akili kama "mimi ni dola"?

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Ilo sasa sio tatizo la dini ni tatizo la mtu mwenyewe.na mifano ipo.

Stroke said:

Wakatoliki Wana maekari kwa malefu ya maekari.

Hivyo lazima wale top mmoja wao atoke kwao ili kulinda maslahi yao.

Marekani kwa kipindi cha zaidi ya miaka 200 Biden ndio Rais wa kwanza mkatoliki kumaliza muda wake. Baada yaa JFK. Kuwa terminatBiden ashama Liza

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Kumbe Biden ashamaliza muda wake!? Nilikuwa sijui!!!

Kyenyabasa said:

Moja kwa moja kwenye mada. Tangu tupate Uhuru linapokuja suala la Rais kutoka ukristoni basi atakuwa mkatoliki. Je, Kanisa katoliki wanatumia mbinu gani kuwapenyeza?

Najiuliza kuna mpango wa Siri kati ya kanisa na dola? Au ni bahati tu inatokea! Au kuna Nini!? Nina Imani kwa ule mtiti wa Lowasa 2015 angekuwa mkatoliki angechukua nchi.

Karibuni wajuzi na wachambuzi.

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Uje na Uzi wa ukatoliki na TISS Usalama wa Taifa maana wengi wanatakaga wakatoliki au bakwata

avogadro said:

Uraisi ni taasisi yenye heshima yake.
Sasa umkute Raisi anasali kwenye makanisa ya mazingaumbwe ,mara wajifanye wanafufua watu, mara wanagawa sijui mafuta ya upako wanasali kwenye makanisa ya mabanzi na yaliozungishiwa uzio wa mabati au mapagara ya magorofa ambayo hayajaisha, si utamkuta raisi nae yupo kwenye mkumbo wa kufunga hadi kufa ili kumwona Mungu na kwa kuwa ni Raisi atawashawishi na watanzania wote? Makanisa yanamilikiwa na mume na mke?

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Kwa hiyo hata KKKT,ANGLICAN nao ni hivyo hivyo? Mbona nchi nyingi tu za Afrika zinaongozwa na wasio wakatoliki na zina viongozi wenye uwezo mzuri tu.

Kyenyabasa said:

Kwa akili zile atasema jmosi watu wasifanye kazi ni sabato

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Mambo yakuchanganya dini na serikali ni ujinga wetu wenyewe.Tusiufungamanishe na watu wengine kwasababu wako wenye dini tofauti na wanaongoza vizuri tu.

SAIDWE said:

Nani alikwambia Wakatoliki ni Wakristo? Ndio maana Waislamu na Wakatoliki hawatofautiani. Mkatoliki hana madhara kwa Muislamu na kinyume chake. Hii pia ni MAAGANO ya wale Wachawi 5 (wakiiongozwa na Forojo Ganzel Master) waliotumwa na yule babu wa 1 wa hii nchi kule Bagamoyo waliokubaliana hizo dini 2 tu ndio ziongoze TZ. Lakini wanamaombi wanashughulika nazo punde itabadilika

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Ndio umeandika nini? Tabularasa