Watu waliomkufuru Mungu wakafariki dunia

Elungata · Mar 11, 2014

Nicholas said:
Sasa umeanza uongo kw amaslahi ya dini..mkataba wa Roma ukamhusu Hitler...?Mbona hujajibu Sheikh mkuu wa ala Aqsa wa Jerusalem naye alikuwa ktk mkataba wa kuipa uhuru Vatican?Unakwepa nini sasa. Ni km leo Pengo alivyo concerned na usalama wa minority Zenj km zenj itajitenga, km hapa Tuu wakristu si salama.Halafu akijaribu watorosha wakristu watakoanza geuzwa kuwa Chambo km Syria ktk vita za waislam..nae aamabiwe anamsaidia mbabe wa Zenj.Km Leo Catholic waambiwe wanamsaidia Assad wakati magaidi wa Kiislama ktk nchi ya KIIslam bil aibu wanateka Masista wa Kikristu na kuwafanya chambo ktk ugonvi wa kiislam...Kweli Ukristu ni Ukombozi.....Ukristu ni sarafu..

ni kuwa hitlar na musolini wao ndo walikua pamoja na japan dhidi ya dunia nzima kwenye vita vya pili vya dunia,meaning walikuwa washirika.then hapa kuna mkataba kati ya hitler na papa pius wa ushirikiano.

Then kuna mkataba kati ya musolini na vatican kuipa madaraka kamili ya kinchi vatican.see?.
Then hitler hapo anapigana na waingereza,marekan,russia ambao hawakua roman catholic,unadhani kanisa hapa lingeegamia wapi kama si kwa italy na germany?.
Then siku za karibuni ndo ikawa wazi kuwa vatican na Nazi walikua in a relationship.
Kuhusu huyo muft wa jerusalem nimesema ntarisech

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Elungata said:
quran 4:171. O people of scripture,do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except Truth.The messiah,jesus the son of mary was but a messenger of Allah and his word which he directed to mary and a soul(created at command) from him. So beliave in Allah and his messengers and DO NOT SAY''three'' desist is better for you.indeed Allah is but one God,EXALTED IS HE ABOVE HAVING A SON. To him belongs whatever is in the heaven and whatever is on earth.and sufficient is Allah as Dispaser of affairs.

Achana na hii mistari haiwezi mshawishi mtu mwenye akili...weka logic hapa..Sasa hihi mistari nikisoma ..naona hata bila aibu mnapinga Yesu halafu bado Neno masiha mkalibeba....kwa mapana yake MASSIh...na SILIMU(JISALIMISHA) ..ni vitu tofauti na vinavyopingana sana.Kwanza hiyo mistari tuu imebeba hisia za kujaribu shwishi..huku ikikosa kujiamini....ikikosa mamlaka ya kuwa ya kweli..ndio maaka wakati masheikh wanaisoma lazima wajaribu hata sauti kuiweka km vile wanalia kwa uzini, km wanashawishi kwa hisi mtu kuikubali.Km unabisha ukiingia next time msikiti au kusikiliza mawaisha sikia jinsi maskheikh wanaoweza changanya hisia na maneno wanavyofanikiwa washawishi waislam huku wakiabana kuwa na maswali ya msingi ktk kuijua imani na kuwa waumini bora.

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Elungata said:
hivi unajua kuwa Elisha alifufua watu(kwa mjibu wa bible)?. Elisha alilisha watu weeengi mikate michache na wakala na kusaza. Pia wajua kuwa elia alipaa mbinguni?(bible). Hivi haiwezi kuwa waandishi na mafarisayo walicopy na kupaste baada ya kufanya editing toka masimulizi ya zama za akina elisha?

Nashukuru kwa kuzidi thibitisha....ndio maana nikakuambia Yesu alikuja kw anjia bora kuonyesha kuwa kila alichokifnaya ni possible kwa binadamu..na si kwa malaika au kwa wengine walio ktk roho. Wafarisayo wacoppy kwa nini wakati hawakuwa upande wa Yesu....?

Mantz · Mar 11, 2014

Nicholas said:
Haha..kwanza umemaliza na kukubaliana na wengine kuhusu Mazazi na Nature ya Yesu kabla hujahitimisha kirahisi hivi?Km hukuweza jibu hoja za Uzazi nini..ni wazi utakuja haya mambo ya kurudiarudia forever.. Hembu niambie Babake ni nani?au hana Baba..?

Hana Baba

LiverpoolFC · Mar 11, 2014

Leonard Robert said:
Mmeanza vitisho vyenu kama wakati wa kuzika.. logic hamna kabisa.. mmeulizwa kila siku..kama huyu Mungu yupo..na ana akili sana..mbona hakutengeneza dunia nzuri sana isiyo na dhambi..wala makosa..nini kusudi lake..je alituumba akitegemea tutatenda dhambi ili atucheke na kutuchoma kama mnavyo dai.. hamuoni kwamba ni maigizo alifanya..yaani anatengeneza dhambi alafu anatukataza kufanya dhambi.. mtu/kiumbe yule yule mmoja..

pili mbona vitabu vyake vitakatifu..vina makosa sana tena primitive/vya kikale..na mambo yasiyo ya kibinadamu kama utumwa vimetamalaki.. tena mbaya zaidi vitabu havijui hata mambo ya wazi kabisa kama umbo la dunia..na kusema eti dunia ni ya flat.. huu ni ukale..
muandishi wake si mtu makini kama inavyo semwa bali ni mtu primitive..asiyekua na maarifa yakutosha

Pole sana!

Elungata · Mar 11, 2014

Ukisoma hapa gazeti la daily beast linaonyesha pope yohana paul akiomba msamaha kwa yote yaliyotokea wakati wa vita ya pili ya dunia,wakati kanisa lilipokua likisapoti musolini na hitler.
How the Catholic Church Got in Bed with Mussolini - The Daily Beast

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Elungata said:
ni kuwa hitlar na musolini wao ndo walikua pamoja na japan dhidi ya dunia nzima kwenye vita vya pili vya dunia,meaning walikuwa washirika.then hapa kuna mkataba kati ya hitler na papa pius wa ushirikiano. Then kuna mkataba kati ya musolini na vatican kuipa madaraka kamili ya kinchi vatican.see?. Then hitler hapo anapigana na waingereza,marekan,russia ambao hawakua roman catholic,unadhani kanisa hapa lingeegamia wapi kama si kwa italy na germany?. Then siku za karibuni ndo ikawa wazi kuwa vatican na Nazi walikua in a relationship. Kuhusu huyo muft wa jerusalem nimesema ntarisech

naona sasa unaandika tuu kukamilisha siku ....ok.Malizia siku tuendeleee na thread yetu ya waliokufuru.

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Mantz said:
Hana Baba

-Kipi ni kufuru zaidi...Kumwita Yesu mwana wa Mungu au kumwita hana Baba? Yesu pia hakuwa na Mtoto, la azizi

Elungata · Mar 11, 2014

Nicholas said:
Achana na hii mistari haiwezi mshawishi mtu mwenye akili...weka logic hapa..Sasa hihi mistari nikisoma ..naona hata bila aibu mnapinga Yesu halafu bado Neno masiha mkalibeba....kwa mapana yake MASSIh...na SILIMU(JISALIMISHA) ..ni vitu tofauti na vinavyopingana sana.Kwanza hiyo mistari tuu imebeba hisia za kujaribu shwishi..huku ikikosa kujiamini....ikikosa mamlaka ya kuwa ya kweli..ndio maaka wakati masheikh wanaisoma lazima wajaribu hata sauti kuiweka km vile wanalia kwa uzini, km wanashawishi kwa hisi mtu kuikubali.Km unabisha ukiingia next time msikiti au kusikiliza mawaisha sikia jinsi maskheikh wanaoweza changanya hisia na maneno wanavyofanikiwa washawishi waislam huku wakiabana kuwa na maswali ya msingi ktk kuijua imani na kuwa waumini bora.

wewe utaona wanampinga as long as hawaamini kama wewe unavyoamini kwamba yesu ni mungu,wao wanaamini yesu ni mtume,wayahudi wao hawaamini hata kuwa yesu ni masiya,na bado wanamgojea masiha wao arudi kuliunganisha taifa la israel.

Haya mambo ya imani hayanaga kuforce mtu,ndo maana walokole waligundua wakaja kwa style ya miujiza ili wawapate watu.

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Elungata said:
Ukisoma hapa gazeti la daily beast linaonyesha pope yohana paul akiomba msamaha kwa yote yaliyotokea wakati wa vita ya pili ya dunia,wakati kanisa lilipokua likisapoti musolini na hitler. How the Catholic Church Got in Bed with Mussolini - The Daily Beast

sidhani km haya yanahitaji jibiwa hapa..ila hilo la sheikh wenu unalolikimbia linahitaji majibu kwani issue hapa ni ushiriki wa waislma ktk maangamizi ya wayaudi na Shauku ya wasilams iku ifikie wayahudi wauwawe hadi wkaijificha ktk jiwe jiwe liwataje..na hili ndilo Hitler alilitamani sana ..akashirikiana na huyu sheikh mkuu ili andiko la Quran litimie.Sasa naona mnalitafuta tena ndio maana mnataka sana jenga maizngira watu waseme kuwa hawakuuwawa. Kwa atamshi yako unajichanganya tena..Ulisema ni kisingizio, sasa unakubali walikuwa hembu chagua moja.

Elungata · Mar 11, 2014

Nicholas said:
naona sasa unaandika tuu kukamilisha siku ....ok.Malizia siku tuendeleee na thread yetu ya waliokufuru.

we utaona hivyo lakini uzi unasomwa na maelfu ya watu na kila mtu anajudge who is talking for the sake of talking.

Mantz · Mar 11, 2014

Nicholas said:
-Kipi ni kufuru zaidi...Kumwita Yesu mwana wa Mungu au kumwita hana Baba? Yesu pia hakuwa na Mtoto, la azizi

Ndio Yesu hakuwa na mtoto, lakini ana Mama. Unataka kusema nini?

Unakumbuka maswali yangu? Nasubiri majibu naona unanihamisha, nilidhani nikikujibu kuhusu Baba wa Yesu utanipatia majibu badala yake unakwepa maswali yangu unaleta ya kwako.

prs · Mar 11, 2014

Eiyer said:
Ndo huyo huyo!!!!

Swali lingine?

Mkuu Eiyer ..Umenijibu Mungu ni Mmoja..

1.Mungu Yesu..
2.Mungu Baba
3.Mungu Roho mtakatifu

Hawa si Watatu??

Mungu Yesu alibatizwa..Nini maana ya ubatizo?

Mungu Yesu Alikuwa akimuomba nani kifo kimuepuke?

Elungata · Mar 11, 2014

Nicholas said:
sidhani km haya yanahitaji jibiwa hapa..ila hilo la sheikh wenu unalolikimbia linahitaji majibu kwani issue hapa ni ushiriki wa waislma ktk maangamizi ya wayaudi na Shauku ya wasilams iku ifikie wayahudi wauwawe hadi wkaijificha ktk jiwe jiwe liwataje..na hili ndilo Hitler alilitamani sana ..akashirikiana na huyu sheikh mkuu ili andiko la Quran litimie.Sasa naona mnalitafuta tena ndio maana mnataka sana jenga maizngira watu waseme kuwa hawakuuwawa. Kwa atamshi yako unajichanganya tena..Ulisema ni kisingizio, sasa unakubali walikuwa hembu chagua moja.

nyosha maelezo bana,naöna kama hueleweki..

Huyo shehe wa jerusalem ngoja nikamsearch,lakini pia ujua baada ya ottoman empire,uislamu hauna tena centralized leadership kama zilivyo dini za kikristo.so huyo shehe kama kweli alideal na hitler he was on his own,hakuna chain of command tangu kuanguka kwa ottoman empire.

Ntuzu · Mar 11, 2014

Mantz said:
Katika maneno yote hayo umeona hapo tu?

TAFSIRI YAKE:
Kuzaa na Kuzaliwa ni sifa za viumbe.

Ametukuka: Ina maanisha yeye ni wa level nyingine, si wa kumfananisha na viumbe.

Maandiko ndani ya Quran yamesema "Ametukuka yeye na Kuwa Na Mwana"

Maana yake hapo Mungu anamiliki mtoto! Sasa Hiyo tafisiri yako tena iliyokwenda tofauti kabisa umeitoa wapi?

Ndani ya Hiyo aya kumeandikwa lugha nyepesi kabisa ya kuonesha Kua Mungu anamiliki mtoto!

Hapa Naona unajaribu kukana tu andiko lako lkn hui ndio ukweli!

Mantz · Mar 11, 2014

Ntuzu said:
Maandiko ndani ya Quran yamesema "Ametukuka yeye na Kuwa Na Mwana"

Maana yake hapo Mungu anamiliki mtoto! Sasa Hiyo tafisiri yako tena iliyokwenda tofauti kabisa umeitoa wapi?

Ndani ya Hiyo aya kumeandikwa lugha nyepesi kabisa ya kuonesha Kua Mungu anamiliki mtoto!

Hapa Naona unajaribu kukana tu andiko lako lkn hui ndio ukweli!

Kama ndivyo ulivyoelewa ndio hivyo pole.

Hebu rudia tena: "Ametukuka kuwa na mwana" Naona kiswahili kinakupiga chenga, Nicholas mtafsirie mwenzio huo mstari unamaanisha nini.

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Elungata said:
wewe utaona wanampinga as long as hawaamini kama wewe unavyoamini kwamba yesu ni mungu,wao wanaamini yesu ni mtume,wayahudi wao hawaamini hata kuwa yesu ni masiya,na bado wanamgojea masiha wao arudi kuliunganisha taifa la israel. Haya mambo ya imani hayanaga kuforce mtu,ndo maana walokole waligundua wakaja kwa style ya miujiza ili wawapate watu.

wala siwaoni vibaya kwani hapa nataka hoja..ila nimewaambia tuu wasipoteze muda na haya zisizo na mvuto km wanavyodhani,kwa vile wanasomewa na maskeikh wanaojua kulia na kutisha..wakizisoma kwa hisia za ajabu.Kwa free minded people hazina vinango.

Ntuzu · Mar 11, 2014

Mantz said:
Kama ndivyo ulivyoelewa ndio hivyo pole.

Hebu rudia tena: "Ametukuka kuwa na mwana" Naona kiswahili kinakupiga chenga, Nicholas mtafsirie mwenzio huo mstari unamaanisha nini.

Exalted is he above having a son

Ametukuka yeye na Kuwa na Mwana

Km ktk huo mstari haukubali Km Mungu yuko na Mwana mbona ktk huu mstari unawatenganisha "I and My Father are one"

Mbona hapo Yesu Anadai Kua Ni mmoja na babaake alafu Wewe unasema Ni vitu tofauti?

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

prs said:
Mkuu Eiyer ..Umenijibu Mungu ni Mmoja.. 1.Mungu Yesu.. 2.Mungu Baba 3.Mungu Roho mtakatifu Hawa si Watatu?? Mungu Yesu alibatizwa..Nini maana ya ubatizo? Mungu Yesu Alikuwa akimuomba nani kifo kimuepuke?

maji,mvuke, solid,na plasma,neutrons ni matter tofauti 3....?sayansi inakwenda waacha gizani sana miaka hii.

Nicholas · Mar 11, 2014

Elungata said:
nyosha maelezo bana,naöna kama hueleweki.. Huyo shehe wa jerusalem ngoja nikamsearch,lakini pia ujua baada ya ottoman empire,uislamu hauna tena centralized leadership kama zilivyo dini za kikristo.so huyo shehe kama kweli alideal na hitler he was on his own,hakuna chain of command tangu kuanguka kwa ottoman empire.

kwa heri...naona tumefikia level tusiyoendana.

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