When America Almost Invaded Uganda to Defend Kenya

When America Almost Invaded Uganda to Defend Kenya

Dp800 said:
Umeandika point muhimu na kubwa sana. Hakika hiyo ndio tofauti kuu kati ya Watanzania na wakenya. Maana pamoja na mambo mengi Tanzania tunajivunia kuwajali wafrica wengine na hip ndio asili yetu, hata magufuli wakati anazuia kufunga mipaka sababu hii ya uafrica ilikua miongoni
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since when is pursuing your own interest bad? It is the reason capitalist societies grow faster, by every citizen pursuing their own interests to achieve happiness.
 
Dp800 said:
Umeandika point muhimu na kubwa sana. Hakika hiyo ndio tofauti kuu kati ya Watanzania na wakenya. Maana pamoja na mambo mengi Tanzania tunajivunia kuwajali wafrica wengine na hip ndio asili yetu, hata magufuli wakati anazuia kufunga mipaka sababu hii ya uafrica ilikua miongoni
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Mutual interests are short lived and friends turn against friends, power is the only thing that can secure a state.

Anyone may at any time use force, and all must constantly be ready to counter such force with force. Hence, driven by acquisitiveness, having no moral restraints, and motivated to compete for scarce goods, individuals are apt to “invade” one another for gain.

Once states are established, the individual drive for power becomes the basis for the states’ behavior, which often manifests itself in their efforts to dominate other states and peoples. States, “for their own security,” .

Tanzania is veiling it's own interests in Pan-Africanism which is a pretence. All states fight for power only that others are better at actually gaining that power and influence.
 
Dp800 said:
Umeandika point muhimu na kubwa sana. Hakika hiyo ndio tofauti kuu kati ya Watanzania na wakenya. Maana pamoja na mambo mengi Tanzania tunajivunia kuwajali wafrica wengine na hip ndio asili yetu, hata magufuli wakati anazuia kufunga mipaka sababu hii ya uafrica ilikua miongoni
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The only constant in international or national politics is betrayal and GOK and Kenyans know this from experience. That is why we work for our own interests first, African second.
 
vulcan said:
Hizo facts zako zinaandamana na niliyoyasema... ndege za kivita za Uganda ziliharibiwa na Israel mwaka wa 1976, kwa hivyo mwaka wa 1978 Iddi Amin hakuwa amenunua ndege zingine wakati TZ ilipomshambulia.. Air-Force yake ilikuwa kwenye dis-advantage... kwa hivyo mlisaidiwa na Israel in-directly..
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Acha kuandika kinazi we kilaza, Nduli Amini ndio alianza kutuvamia na kuchukua baadhi ya maeneo yetu kwa zaidi ya miezi6 sasa unavyosema sisi tulipomvamia alikuwa hajajiandaa huo ni uongo uliotukuka, uzandikizi na upuuzi mtupu hivyo hiyo motion yako ya kutojiandaa na kuvamiwa tunaifutilia mbali,

Sisi ndio tulikuwa hatujajiandaa kwenye vita ile na ilituchukua miezi 6 tu kufanya mobilization ya resources (watu, chakula, silaha, mafunzo) Tz ili declare war kipindi ambacho nduli ameshahodhi maeneo ya kaskazini mangaribi mwa Tz(kanda ya ziwa) Kagera

Ukisoma hii report "thread" inasema Uganda walikuwa na uwezo mkubwa kijeshi kitu ambacho intelligensia ya Kenyatta iliijua hilo na kuomba msaada USA na hiyo ilikuwa baada ya Entebe Raid sasa wewe unaongea upupu gani? Miaka miwili kwa kujiandaa na vita ni mingi sana kwa nchi za kiafrika maana mandege hatutengenezi sisi tunanunua tu nakutrain marubani,

Note kwamba nchi ambayo imezaliwa katika misingi ya kijamaa sio nchi ya kuichezea chezea hata kidogo, vijana walikuwa wanalilia kwenda front line, wastaafu waling'ang'ania kurudi jeshini, wanawake walikesha wakiimba chenja, wanafunzi na watoto walikuwa wanaimba nyimbo za chuki/kizalendo masaa yote, watu wenye kipato walitoa magari yao kupeleka chakula na askari Ku station na kupata mafunzo Mwanza

Yani kifupi kipindi cha ile vita ilikuwa unapigana na Tanzania nzima maana kulikuwa hatuna upinzani wala udini wala ukabila hivyo tulikuwa tukiamua jambo letu lazma tulitekeleze kwa weledi mkubwa



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Iko wazi kuwa Kenya ni puppet Wa marekani na uongereza kwa miaka yote wanatumika kuwasnitch waafrika, hata kuanguka kwa the former east African community ni undumilakuwili Wa Kenya, OAU info zote Kenya anatumika kupeleka habari kwa imperialist, so lazima wamtetee kwa gharama zote.
US military base iko Kenya na ndio maana nyakati zote hapa utawashuhudia wakenya wakionyesha jitihada kuweka kila aina ya propaganda dhidi ya Tanzania na Africa nzima, kujipendekeza kwa mzungu si lelemama.
Kevin85ify said:
The year is 1976, Kenya was an economically stable and growing country but militarily it was an underdog surrounded by neighbors armed to the teeth by the soviet union.The then Uganda leader Idi Amin Dada infuriated Kenyans when he claimed that a large part of Kenya belonged to Uganda.

A couple of days after his remarks, a mass demonstration was organised at Nairobi’s Uhuru Park, where Mzee Jomo Kenyatta declared that Kenya would deal ruthlessly with neighbours who publicly expressed “their sinister intentions”.Jomo Kenyatta knew in his heart that Kenya could not take on Uganda at that time, this is where his intelligence helped to secure Kenyan borders.

It was believed that he was being incited by President Siad Barre of Somalia, who was laying a similar claim to the northeastern part of Kenya.

Jomo Kenyatta summoned the American ambassador Mr. Marshall and raised Kenya's concerns with regards to her neighbors. Two months after the meeting the state secretary Mr. Henry Kissinger arrived in Kenya and Jomo Kenyatta brokered a deal worth $45 million in military aid .

While appreciating the $45 million aid from America, Kenyatta requested an additional $20 million to enable Kenya acquire the F-5s, which he wanted to be delivered as soon as possible, pointing out: “Our neighbours are armed to the teeth.”

Nevertheless, on June 16, 1976, US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld arrived in Kenya and made public the sale of 12 supersonic F-5s to the country in a deal that was at the time the largest ever between Washington and an emerging African nation. However, the jet fighters were only to be available in two years’ time.

Tensions between Kenya and Uganda were exacerbated by two events, the entebbe raid and the economic blockade on Ugandan goods.

In remarks broadcast by Radio Uganda, Amin complained that during the Entebbe raid, Israel had stationed a stand-by commando force in Kenya which “would have continued to fight were the first waves defeated”.

He also accused Kenya of blockading 200 oil tankers and other vehicles carrying goods to Uganda and appealed to the Organisation of African Unity to intervene before he resorted to “desperate action”.

Kenyatta went again to America and he managed to secure another deal. America agreed to send a P-3 aircraft to Nairobi, a frigate to Mombasa and a contingent of navy seal commandos and rangers.

The suggestion of the P-3 coming to Nairobi particularly appealed to Kenyatta, who exclaimed: “Wonderful! Wonderful! Wonderful!”

With Amin showing no sign of relenting, in September, when Kissinger returned to Kenya, Kenyatta requested if US military aircraft could stage a fly-past during Jamhuri day.

He repeated the same in a letter to President Gerald Ford, cancelling his proposed visit to America. President Ford responded: “We are pursuing arrangements to fulfill your request for a fly-past on Jamhuri Day, December 12. We will be communicating further with you on this matter.”

On the Jamhuri Day, December 12, 1976, US Marines jets staged a spectacular fly-past in a tribute to Kenya on its republican anniversary and as a warning to Amin.

Kenyatta raised his fly whisk as the jets from the aircraft carrier USS Guam, which had docked in Mombasa, flew in formations and performed solo passes over Nairobi.

Amin fearing an imminent attack by America toned down his rhetoric. He wrote to the OAU, saying Uganda had never “dreamed of any subversive activities against the brotherly and sisterly people of Kenya”.

Since them America, Israel and Britain have combined forces to ensure Kenya defense forces has grown to the new equipped military power it is today.
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vulcan said:
Vifaa gani??
Ndege zake za kivita zilikuwa zimeharibiwa na Israel kwenye Entebbe Raid.
Rebels wa Uganda walikuwa wamekusanyika Tanzania tayari kumshambulia
Waganda walikuwa wamechoka naye
Uchumi wa Uganda ulikuwa umesambaratika..

Saa hizi mkijaribu kushambulia Uganda , UPDF itasimamia Tanga na wengine Mtwara, nanyi mtajirusha baharini kuokoa maisha yenu
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Hehee, hizi wishes unakuwa nazo no vru funny

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Uhuru n Umoja said:
Where do you get the crap you had just posted about Kagera war?

And, if I may ask, how old are you son?
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Disprove my claim, old man! engage your senile grey matter for once in your miserable life.
 
Avriel said:
Iko wazi kuwa Kenya ni puppet Wa marekani na uongereza kwa miaka yote wanatumika kuwasnitch waafrika, hata kuanguka kwa the former east African community ni undumilakuwili Wa Kenya, OAU info zote Kenya anatumika kupeleka habari kwa imperialist, so lazima wamtetee kwa gharama zote.
US military base iko Kenya na ndio maana nyakati zote hapa utawashuhudia wakenya wakionyesha jitihada kuweka kila aina ya propaganda dhidi ya Tanzania na Africa nzima, kujipendekeza kwa mzungu si lelemama.
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You wanted Kenya to align with a hopeless country like Tanzania in defense?
 
Avriel said:
Iko wazi kuwa Kenya ni puppet Wa marekani na uongereza kwa miaka yote wanatumika kuwasnitch waafrika, hata kuanguka kwa the former east African community ni undumilakuwili Wa Kenya, OAU info zote Kenya anatumika kupeleka habari kwa imperialist, so lazima wamtetee kwa gharama zote.
US military base iko Kenya na ndio maana nyakati zote hapa utawashuhudia wakenya wakionyesha jitihada kuweka kila aina ya propaganda dhidi ya Tanzania na Africa nzima, kujipendekeza kwa mzungu si lelemama.
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US Becomes Second Biggest Buyer of Kenyan Products - Ministry of Industry, Trade and Cooperatives
 
Avriel said:
Iko wazi kuwa Kenya ni puppet Wa marekani na uongereza kwa miaka yote wanatumika kuwasnitch waafrika, hata kuanguka kwa the former east African community ni undumilakuwili Wa Kenya, OAU info zote Kenya anatumika kupeleka habari kwa imperialist, so lazima wamtetee kwa gharama zote.
US military base iko Kenya na ndio maana nyakati zote hapa utawashuhudia wakenya wakionyesha jitihada kuweka kila aina ya propaganda dhidi ya Tanzania na Africa nzima, kujipendekeza kwa mzungu si lelemama.
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Here are your fellow laggards, complaining about Kenya looking out for it's own interests. We look out for Kenya only not Africa.
Kenya-US trade deal sparks dispute with EAC partners
 
vulcan said:
Vifaa gani??
Ndege zake za kivita zilikuwa zimeharibiwa na Israel kwenye Entebbe Raid.
Rebels wa Uganda walikuwa wamekusanyika Tanzania tayari kumshambulia
Waganda walikuwa wamechoka naye
Uchumi wa Uganda ulikuwa umesambaratika..

Saa hizi mkijaribu kushambulia Uganda , UPDF itasimamia Tanga na wengine Mtwara, nanyi mtajirusha baharini kuokoa maisha yenu
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Wewe ni mjinga sana...na umaskini wote huu wa nchi za africa mashariki bado mnaongelea ujinga wa vita..na mnashabikia na meno nje

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passioner255 said:
Nonsense! if we are hopeless then why there is no any country that can mess with us even Kenya?

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Apparently you have no idea why Kenya will not engage militarily with any eac country including Rwanda,Burundi.
i) eac rules do not allow that.
ii) It is not profitable since the eac is among our largest market for manufactured goods.

Now to the word hopeless. Yes you are, all your attempts to undermine Kenya in the international circle and trade have failed miserably. Now the only option you have is to yap like dogs. You have tried everything to undermine Kenya but we still outwit you.
 
Kevin85ify said:
Kenya follows what is good for kenya not what is good for Africa! We pursue our own national interest first ie Kenyan interests override any African interests
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That would be Defensive realism....

We don't have the resources or the diplomatic power to wage/practice offensive realism.

Liberalism(I.R) is a failed ideology.

there is not a cohesive ideology to warrant constructivism

so the only thing we have left is defensive realism hence certain provocations don't warrant military responses despite that fact that we hold a major escalation advantage over our East African neighbours

You have to appreciate the strategic actions of the NSC. Despite obvious shortcomings and failures, they really do a good job of deterrence and force projection

Militarily Kenya(or Tanzania or Uganda or Rwanda) doesn't give a flying f*ck about the EAC. The EAC is to be tolerated and accommodated whenever possible but not a determining factor (that is one of the dirty secrets in the EAC)
 
nomasana said:
That would be Defensive realism....

We don't have the resources or the diplomatic power to wage/practice offensive realism.

Liberalism(I.R) is a failed ideology.

there is not a cohesive ideology to warrant constructivism

so the only thing we have left is defensive realism hence certain provocations don't warrant military responses despite that fact that we hold a major escalation advantage over our East African neighbours

You have to appreciate the strategic actions of the NSC. Despite obvious shortcomings and failures, they really do a good job of deterrence and force projection

Militarily Kenya(or Tanzania or Uganda or Rwanda) doesn't give a flying f*ck about the EAC. The EAC is to be tolerated and accommodated whenever possible but not a determining factor (that is one of the dirty secrets in the EAC)
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Reminds me of a sentence in "The Prince".
"So, as a prince is forced to know how to act like a beast, he must learn from the fox and the lion; because the lion is defenseless against traps and a fox is defenseless against wolves. Therefore one must be a fox in order to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten off wolves. A good leader must be a fox to evade the snares and a lion to kick out the wolves"
 
Kevin85ify said:
Reminds me of a sentence in "The Prince".
"So, as a prince is forced to know how to act like a beast, he must learn from the fox and the lion; because the lion is defenseless against traps and a fox is defenseless against wolves. Therefore one must be a fox in order to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten off wolves. A good leader must be a fox to evade the snares and a lion to kick out the wolves"
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Big big big facts 💯!!!!

From them college days 👇👇👇
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