When is this going to stop in Africa?

[eliakeem]

Which language is this?

I'm also like, what...?
Tell us, again, how this language (queen's language) improved your ranking in the list of Kenya's police to be most cruel police force in the continent.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Being dangerous and having the freedom of speech and expression are two different things. Stop creating strawmen. Here is the evidence that Tanzania ranks dismally in media and speech freedom.

2020 World Press Freedom Index | RSF

Access all the data about the 2020 Press Freedom Index.

rsf.org

Press Freedom Varies Considerably Across Africa

The RWB index provides a useful tool for comparing media freedom around the continent. It also provides yet another example of the diversity of the African continent. With respect to media freedom, G…

www.cfr.org

The fact that Kenya is #103 and Tanzania #124 does it mean that Kenya has freedom of speech?, the question is
1)Is there freedom of speech in Kenya?

Not

2) Between TZ and Kenya which is better?

The fact that both Kenya and Tanzania score below average then there are no freedom of speech in both countries[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[MK254]

Matatizo ya hawa hata sio ya kawaida, wapo wapo tu siku ziende....wanarogana hata kwenye viapo vya mawaziri, jamaa anashindwa kusoma kiapo anaganda kabisa.

 

[eliakeem]

Mbona Mbowe hakimbii

2. Sugu
3. Msigwa
4. Wenje
5. Prof. J
6..... orodha ni ndefu tu. Lkn uongo utajitenga, maana wenyeji wake watakuja kuuliza na kuchunguza kama kweli alikotoka kuna hatari kiasi hicho.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Na yaliyotendeka Zanzibari je? At least huku tunaweka wazi yanaonekana. Huko kwenu hata wanaojaribu kuyaweka wazi wanamalizwa. Ndio maana the only story you could get ni ya Jacob Juma ambayo ilitendeka mwaka wa 2016.

Ulijuaje kama Zanzibar yalitendeka kama hayajawekwa wazi?, HRW wamewezaje kuiweka Tanzania #124 duniani kama taarifa zinafichwa?.

Ukweli ni kwamba Kenya inaongoza Africa katika mauaji ya Kinyama dhidi ya raia wake, huo ndio ushahidi uliopo, hayo mengine mnajaribu kulazimisha ili kutaka kulingana na Tanzania.

 

[NairobiWalker]

I'm also like, what...?
Tell us, again, how this language (queen's language) improved your ranking in the list of Kenya's police to be most cruel police force in the continent.

Speak things that people can understand. Use a language you can express yourself well in.

 

[NairobiWalker]

The fact that Kenya is #103 and Tanzania #124 does it mean that Kenya has freedom of speech?, the question is
1)Is there freedom of speech in Kenya?

Not

2) Between TZ and Kenya which is better?

The fact that both Kenya and Tanzania score below average then there are no freedom of speech in both countries[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I can score 90% and you 40% yet I be just a position above you. Thing is, we are doing way better than you and even your own politicians say that. You need to do something, stop living in a North Korea.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Ulijuaje kama Zanzibar yalitendeka kama hayajawekwa wazi?, HRW wamewezaje kuiweka Tanzania #124 duniani kama taarifa zinafichwa?.

Ukweli ni kwamba Kenya inaongoza Africa katika mauaji ya Kinyama dhidi ya raia wake, huo ndio ushahidi uliopo, hayo mengine mnajaribu kulazimisha ili kutaka kulingana na Tanzania.

Didn't I tell you only foreign media have the courage to risk and report things from Tanzania ama kichwa yako haina akili? See, the stories you posted about Kenya are from Kenyan media, yours are from foreign media. Kama foreign media inaweza pata news kama hizi kwenu imagine mungekuwa na courage na freedom ya kureport wenyewe tungekuwa tunasikia nini kutoka huko kwenu?

Zanzibar: Opposition claims 9 killed, leader held ahead of polls

ACT-Wazalendo party says Seif Sharif Hamad freed after brief detention amid unrest in the semi-autonomous archipelago.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[eliakeem]

Speak things that people can understand. Use a language you can express yourself well in.

If you can't decipher what I put in here, then that is not my problem. I think it's clear with you Mr bricks and mortar engineer.

 

[NairobiWalker]

If you can't decipher what I put in here, then that is not my problem. I think it's clear with you Mr bricks and mortar engineer.

Mtu alikufunza hilo neno decipher nunulia yeye ng'ombe. It seems to be the only vocabulary you know in English. Unalitumia hata pasipo.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Didn't I tell you only foreign media have the courage to risk and report things from Tanzania ama kichwa yako haina akili? See, the stories you posted about Kenya are from Kenyan media, yours are from foreign media. Kama foreign media inaweza pata news kama hizi kwenu imagine mungekuwa na courage na freedom ya kureport wenyewe tungekuwa tunasikia nini kutoka huko kwenu?

Zanzibar: Opposition claims 9 killed, leader held ahead of polls

ACT-Wazalendo party says Seif Sharif Hamad freed after brief detention amid unrest in the semi-autonomous archipelago.

www.aljazeera.com

Wewe ni kichaa, kwasababu hiyo taarifa umeitoa katika foreign medium haina maana kwamba media za hapa nchini hazijaripoti, ona hii

Journalists protest media harassment in Kenya – DW – 09/21/2016

Hundreds of journalists took to the streets of Mombasa to protests persistent attacks against journalists and free expression. This is the second such protest in Kenya this month.

m.dw.com

Hii imeripotiwa na media za nje, je hiyo ni kuthibitisha kwamba Kenyan media are not free?

 

[NairobiWalker]

Wewe ni kichaa, kwasababu hiyo taarifa umeitoa katika foreign medium haina maana kwamba media za hapa nchini hazijaripoti, ona hii

Journalists protest media harassment in Kenya – DW – 09/21/2016

Hundreds of journalists took to the streets of Mombasa to protests persistent attacks against journalists and free expression. This is the second such protest in Kenya this month.

m.dw.com

Hii imeripotiwa na media za nje, je hiyo ni kuthibitisha kwamba Kenyan media are not free?

Sijasema Kenya hamna media ya nje, la. Kila nchi ina media ya nje, wee una wazimu.....nini. La muhimu ni kuwa, ukigoogle news about Kenya, utapata habari nyingi tu za media ya Kenya na pia utapata ya media ya nje ya Kenya ilhali Tanzania ukigoogle habari yenye utata kama mauaji au njaa au kukosa maendeleo, unapata yote ni media ya nje. Ndio maana kila negative news unayoshare humu kuhusu Kenya 90% ni ya media ya Kenya. Hutapata media ya Kitanzania ikiripoti habari kama hizo kamwe maanaje munazikandamiza. Halafu bado hizo hizo media za nje munazikandandamiza pia ila ma journalist wa nje hawana uoga kama hao wenu, wao hujikakamua kiasi yake na kurepoti. Ndiposa ninasema mungeacha media iwe huru watu wangejua kumbe hamna nchi hapo. Balaa tupu maanake habari zingetokea huko za kutisha tisha.

 

[joto la jiwe]

I can score 90% and you 40% yet I be just a position above you. Thing is, we are doing way better than you and even your own politicians say that. You need to do something, stop living in a North Korea.

My question is not to compare these two counries, just to know if Kenya there is freedom of expression by international standard, then we can go down and compare between the two?.

Freedom of expression has its own standard, is not related to any other country. Tanzania is very peaceful and stable country not because Kenya is one among dangerous countries[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[NairobiWalker]

My question is not to compare these two counries, just to know if Kenya there is freedom of expression by international standard, then we can go down and compare between the two?.

Freedom of expression has its own standard, is not related to any other country. Tanzania is very peaceful and stable country not because Kenya is one among dangerous countries[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

If you want to open a thread on peace then you are free to do so, otherwise stop derailing this thread with your peace shenanigans. This is a thread on freedom of speech. When Kenya had a dictator in the name of Moi, we were ranked as a very peaceful country - Tanzania is where Kenya was in the 90s.

 

[eliakeem]

Mtu alikufunza hilo neno decipher nunulia yeye ng'ombe. It seems to be the only vocabulary you know in English. Unalitumia hata pasipo.

Safi sana bricks n mortar engineer.
nunulia yeye ng'ombe. Nitakupa kasi ya kutengenesa BoQ ya kujenga sisi ya ngombe sangu.
😛 😂 😝 😜

 

[joto la jiwe]

Sijasema Kenya hamna media ya nje, la. Kila nchi ina media ya nje, wee una wazimu.....nini. La muhimu ni kuwa, ukigoogle news about Kenya, utapata habari nyingi tu za media ya Kenya na pia utapata ya media ya nje ya Kenya ilhali Tanzania ukigoogle habari yenye utata kama mauaji au njaa au kukosa maendeleo, unapata yote ni media ya nje. Ndio maana kila negative news unayoshare humu kuhusu Kenya 90% ni ya media ya Kenya. Hutapata media ya Kitanzania ikiripoti habari kama hizo kamwe maanaje munazikandamiza. Halafu bado hizo hizo media za nje munazikandandamiza pia ila ma journalist wa nje hawana uoga kama hao wenu, wao hujikakamua kiasi yake na kurepoti. Ndiposa ninasema mungeacha media iwe huru watu wangejua kumbe hamna nchi hapo. Balaa tupu maanake habari zingetokea huko za kutisha tisha.

Wewe unaokusumbua ni wivu zaidi kuliko kitu kingine, google mambo yote mazuri kuhusu Tanzania kama hutokuta media za nje ndio zinaripoti zaidi kuliko za ndani.

Jaribu kugoogle kuhusu serengeti, Kilimanjaro, hata haya maendeleo yanayofanywa na Magufuli, utakuta media za nje ndio zinazoripoti zaidi, mbona husemi kwamba media za Tanzania zinakatazwa hata kuandika mambo mazuri?.

Ukweli ni kwamba Kenya media haziko free ndio sababu Kenya ipo namba 103 duniani, hiyo ni nafasi mbaya by any standard.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Wewe unaokusumbua ni wivu zaidi kuliko kitu kingine, google mambo yote mazuri kuhusu Tanzania kama hutokuta media za nje ndio zinaripoti zaidi kuliko za ndani.

Jaribu kugoogle kuhusu serengeti, Kilimanjaro, hata haya maendeleo yanayofanywa na Magufuli, utakuta media za nje ndio zinazoripoti zaidi, mbona husemi kwamba media za Tanzania zinakatazwa hata kuandika mambo mazuri?.

Ukweli ni kwamba Kenya media haziko free ndio sababu Kenya ipo namba 103 duniani, hiyo ni nafasi mbaya by any standard.

Ni akili huna ama ni kutumia hutumii? Nimesema negative news, hivi Serengeti na Kilimanjaro ni negative news? Nimeongelea news zinazo mulika serikali kwa maovu inayotenda. Mea akili buda.

 

[joto la jiwe]

If you want to open a thread on peace then you are free to do so, otherwise stop derailing this thread with your peace shenanigans. This is a thread on freedom of speech. When Kenya had a dictator in the name of Moi, we were ranked as a very peaceful country - Tanzania is where Kenya was in the 90s.

Kenya had never be a peaceful country since its independence, during Kenyatta and Moi era, political assassinations were at its peak, Kenyans were killed like flies[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[NairobiWalker]

Safi sana bricks n mortar engineer.
nunulia yeye ng'ombe. Nitakupa kasi ya kutengenesa BoQ ya kujenga sisi ya ngombe sangu.
😛 😂 😝 😜

At least leo umeongea kwa lugha unayoelewa. Endelea hivo na uachane na kuongea broken English hapa hivi alafu unatupa decipher mahali ndio uonekane unaielewa lugha.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Ni akili huna ama ni kutumia hutumii? Nimesema negative news, hivi Serengeti na Kilimanjaro ni negative news? Nimeongelea news zinazo mulika serikali kwa maovu inayotenda. Mea akili buda.

Wewe ni kichaa, au shule yako inafundisha tribalism only instead of critical thinking. Ninachojaribu kukuelewa ni kwamba media za Tanzania zinaandika negative news at the same magnitude as the positive news, try to google even posititive news, you will realize that, not much from local media, most are foreign media.