Mekatilili
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Who created God? Who made him? Where did he come from?
Who created God? Who made him? Where did he come from?
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Mekatilili
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"Solid" is the subjectivity behind which you shield yourself from secure facts.
If by how we came to "existence" you are questioning how humans came to be, there is ample evidence that supports the evolution of living organisms along the branches that make up the the tree of life. Fossil records, DNA evidence, homologies, distribution in time and space and embryology is more than enough evidence for evolution.
I have outlined the evidence for evolution but you keep asking for evidence. Is it that you do not understand what I have outlined or are you under the impression that asking the same question over and over again will negate the answer?
You do not understand the implication of a theory! Gravity is a theory and of you do not understand the gravity of a "theory."
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How is this related to the Big Bang Theory? Please explain.
It has no bearing or relation whatsoever to the Big Bang theory. The separation referred to in this aya is the separation of heavens (the sky) and earth.
Living "things" are not made from water, the basic unit of life is a cell.
I await the day you show me a quranic passage that refers to "cells" "nucleus" "DNA" and not ambiguous statements that can be interpreted into anything.
KIDOLEGUMBA
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I have seen what you call change from "our ancestors" to human form but I haven't seen Origin of the male and female living organisms!! or self generated from Nothing?
THE BIG SHOW
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I don't undestand if you are trying to manipulate my question! Or you really dont understand what I am trying to explain here.
All you keep on mentioning IS NOT THE EVIDENCE, rather it is theories of Something WHICH HAS AN ORIGIN!
Let me cut the chase here!
Your science NEVER EXISTED Before the BIG BANG! Right!?
THAT IS WHAT I CALL "OUR ORIGIN"!
Remember one thing! EVEN THE BIG ITSELF has A PERFECT SYSTEM TO CAUSE THAT "BANG"!
The question comes now by using your science SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE that WHERE WAS THAT ONE Giant Thing which caused theory that the universe originated sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from the cataclysmic explosion of a small volume of matter at extremely high density and temperature) CAMES FROM??
Do any scientists knows WHERE THAT MATTER CAME FROM!?
Now don't try to cut corners here.
Ntakuuliza na kiswahili pia.
Nataka unionyeshe Kwa kutumia hio sayansi yako USHAHIDI kuwa NI NINI KILICHOSABABISHA hicho kilichopasuka mpasuko uitwao "THE BIG BANG" KIWEPO HAPO..
Ni nani! Au ni nguvu gani iliokiweka hapo Mpaka KIKAPASUKA NA KUSABABISHA Hii Dunia yetu uwepo!? Pamoja na sayari INGINE??
Nataka jibu. Sio maswali.
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KIDOLEGUMBA
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Man originated from chimpanzee thats according to your theory , so where did that chimpanzee come from? or male and Female Chimpanzee fell from sky?
Mekatilili
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You do not understand the difference between the evidence and theory.
Fossils
"Fossils" are not theories, you should visit the Nairobi museum where the Turkana boy and other fossils of hominids are on display.
DNA: DNA, is not a theory: every living organism has DNA. The human genome has been sequenced.
Homologies: refers to the similarities in structure: actual bones!
Embryology: An embryo is an unborn (or unhatched) animal or human young in its earliest phases. Embryos of many different kinds of animals: mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, etc. look very similar and it is often difficult to tell them apart.
Observable evidence: Evidence by example:
Embryology
Mekatilili
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That is not what evolution outlines, you need to study evolution in order to have the requisite knowledge to discuss this topic.
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The Quran makes no mention of the Bing Bang theory. The verses you are outlining have retrofitted in order to give relevance and legitimacy to islam. The verses in no way shape or form, explain the big bang.
You are exploring the ambiguity of those verses. Point me to where specific references are made to: dark matter, the expansion of the universe, cosmic radiology, dark force, the composition of the universe, black holes, galaxies etc..
Mekatilili
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What a simplistic understanding of cellular biology! Cell also contain a mixture of molecules: proteins, lipids and carbohydrates.
That water is in abundance in living organisms is a fact that was known well before the quran was written.
Cell theory came to be in the 17th century.
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Stop waisting our time.
Answer a simple question! Will you!!
Does YOUR science existed BEFORE THE BIG BANG!??
Answer that if you dare!
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You do not understand the difference between the evidence and theory.
Fossils
"Fossils" are not theories, you should visit the Nairobi museum where the Turkana boy and other fossils of hominids are on display.
DNA: DNA, is not a theory: every living organism has DNA. The human genome has been sequenced.
Homologies: refers to the similarities in structure: actual bones!
Embryology: An embryo is an unborn (or unhatched) animal or human young in its earliest phases. Embryos of many different kinds of animals: mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, etc. look very similar and it is often difficult to tell them apart.
Observable evidence: Evidence by example:
Embryology
You are A TIME WAISTER!
I am asking you this, you are telling me that!.
I will repeat one more time. And thats it.
All scientists accepted that The BING BANG ITSELF" Has a PERFECT SYSTEAM TO CAUSE THAT GIANT EXPLOSION".
Now Who or What put or make that system into that Object which Exploded and we became who we are today? ?
No more garbage this time, just the simple Answer will do.
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Mungu katika kitabu chake cha biblia amewaambia watu waishike sana elimu.
Katika kitabu chake cha Kuran amewaambia watu waitafute elimu hata ikibidi mpaka China.
Elimu ni pamoja na kudadidisi na kuchunguza.
Mungu hahitaji tu watu "washibe imani"kama ulivyosema, bali anawataka wautafute ufalme wa Mungu, kuutafuta ufalme wake ni lazima umjue, umchunguze, udadisi ili ujue anataka nini, yukoje, anataka watu wamuabudu kwa namna gani, yeye ni Mungu wa namna gani, ana tabia zipi, n.k, n.k!!
Kwa hiyo hata bila ya kunukuu maandiko matakatifu, kwa kutumia akili yako ya kawaida tu, unaweza kujua kuwa Mungu anataka watu wamjue!
Ukisoma kijitabu cha kanisa katoliki kinachoitwa KATEKISIMU YETU, kuna swali maarufu linauliza; Mungu ametuleta dunia tufanye nini?
Jibu lake ni; Ametuleta duniani tumjue na tumtumikie.....
Kwa hiyo huwezi kumtumikia Mungu bila kwanza kumjua, tunamjuaje?, ni kwa njia ya kumchunguza, na kudadisi.
Mtu asiyedadisi na kuchunguza kuhusu Mungu, anaweza kujikuta akifanya mambo yaliyokinyume na maagizo yake, akidhani ndio kumtumikia Mungu. Au anaweza kujikuta akiabudu kitu ambacho si Mungu, yeye akidhani ni Mungu kwa uvivu wake tu wa kudadisi na kuchunguza, Mungu hawezi kupendezeshwa na mtu wa aina hiyo!!
Katika kitabu chake cha Kuran amewaambia watu waitafute elimu hata ikibidi mpaka China.
Elimu ni pamoja na kudadidisi na kuchunguza.
Mungu hahitaji tu watu "washibe imani"kama ulivyosema, bali anawataka wautafute ufalme wa Mungu, kuutafuta ufalme wake ni lazima umjue, umchunguze, udadisi ili ujue anataka nini, yukoje, anataka watu wamuabudu kwa namna gani, yeye ni Mungu wa namna gani, ana tabia zipi, n.k, n.k!!
Kwa hiyo hata bila ya kunukuu maandiko matakatifu, kwa kutumia akili yako ya kawaida tu, unaweza kujua kuwa Mungu anataka watu wamjue!
Ukisoma kijitabu cha kanisa katoliki kinachoitwa KATEKISIMU YETU, kuna swali maarufu linauliza; Mungu ametuleta dunia tufanye nini?
Jibu lake ni; Ametuleta duniani tumjue na tumtumikie.....
Kwa hiyo huwezi kumtumikia Mungu bila kwanza kumjua, tunamjuaje?, ni kwa njia ya kumchunguza, na kudadisi.
Mtu asiyedadisi na kuchunguza kuhusu Mungu, anaweza kujikuta akifanya mambo yaliyokinyume na maagizo yake, akidhani ndio kumtumikia Mungu. Au anaweza kujikuta akiabudu kitu ambacho si Mungu, yeye akidhani ni Mungu kwa uvivu wake tu wa kudadisi na kuchunguza, Mungu hawezi kupendezeshwa na mtu wa aina hiyo!!
THE BIG SHOW
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Maneno yako meeengi na mengine matamu sana.
nilichokipinga mimi kwako ni kule kusema "MUNGU ANAWACHUKIA wanao amini BILA KUCHUNGUZA!
Hio nakwambia kabisa SIO KWELI. Na NI UONGO WA WAZI KABISA.
Huwezi kukuta kwenye biblia wala Quraan ikasema kitu hicho.
Ispokuwa NI VIZURI KUSOMA NA KUIFAHAMU IMANI YAKO na Maamrisho ya MUNGU.
LKN HAKUNA ulazima wa KUMCHUNGUZA MUNGU. unaweza kuamini tu bila kuchunguza.
Mbona unapoambiwa na doctor kuwa una kaswende hautaki kuchunguza zaidi? Unaweza kumuamini doctor kwa kukwambia alichunguza.
Vipi unashindwa kuamini mitume wa MUNGU na Vitabu vyake?
Kama wewe unataka kuchunguza kwanini usiwachunguze HAO WALIOKWAMBIA KUWA MUNGU YUPO!? Unaenda kuchunguza huyo MUNGU?
Ndio maana wengi mnagonga ukuta na kufa bila taarifa.
Amini MUNGU MMOJA.
Soma MAAMRISHO YAKE na MAKATAZO YAKE.
Fanya ibada zako, ishi maisha yako Usubiri KUFA.
Huwenda MUNGU akakulipa zawadi ya uzima wa milele na pepo yake tukufu.
Sio kumsingizia MUNGU UONGO km wale wanaosema MARIA NI mke wa Mungu, na Yesu ni mwanae.
Mnfsssssssss!
Wabaya sana.
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Kama umeona mimi ni mgalatia hakika wewe utakuwa muabudu lile Sanamu la Mungu Mwezi ambalo ndio Allah nafahamu Muslim wakisikia neno hilo hupatwa na majonzi na husda kwa sababu Allah ni idol na sanamu lake lilitengenezwa kwa mikono na udongo na malighafi zingine...
Naposema Alikuwepo ni kwa sababu yeye mwenyewe alisema akimuambia Nabii Mussa kuwa Yeye ni YHWH Lord God Mungu wa Miungu yote alikuwepo na ataendelea kuwepo yeye ni Alfa na Omega yaani Mwanzo na Mwisho ni Mungu muumbaji wa kila kitu... yeye husema tu na kitu kinatokea...katika kazi zake za Uumbaji na Dunia na vitu vyote vilivyomo aliviumba kwa Siku sita tu... na Ya Saba alipumzika na kustarehe na hiyo siku alisema idumishwe milele...
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Kwe he he he he!
Si ndio nikasema nyie wagalatia mnapenda kutumia kwaya hata kwenye nyuzi km hizi.
Hapa panataka elimu kaka!
Sio mipasho na rusha roho.
Sasa hebu jaribu kuwaeleza hao ma Atheists hizo habari za YHWH ambae ALISEMA eti alipoumba akaamua kustarehe wakati hivyo alivyo viumba HAVINA STAREHE!
Ama kweli nyie wachungaji ni vioja tu!
Ngoja wale walioanzisha huu uzi waje. Labda watataka kujua zaidi kuhusu huyu YHWH ambae baadae akabatizwa na kuitwa YESU.
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hapa sasa you have a FACT ,animals understand the nature and knows the truth but they are speechless.
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