So basically.
This self appointed "ExpertBroker" starts theorizing about why should investors stop to build apartments in the "provinces".
Being the ever market pragmatists,I am telling this ExpertBroker "theorizing does not have the authority of the actual forces of the market, let investors be informed by the market".
And his retort is simply "stop theorizing". Forgetting with selective amnesia that he is the one theorizing.
This is the gist of the thread so far, minus the sometimes distracting details, if you don't have the time to go through all the posts.
Who are the giant real estate investors to rely on, au unataka nilete mifano ya Marekani na Ulaya ndio nitakukuna vizuri! Tunaongelea Tanzania mkuu!
I am sorry that you wrongly got me wrong Brother, have time to revisit my thread! Acha kasumba ya kusoma juujuuu ili ukimbilie kuongeza idadi ya comments na posts! Ni wapi nimesema watu wasijenge apartments mikoani?
Penye RED, Nilijua hilo ndilo linakukwaza na bora umelitolea ufafanuzi kuonesha ni kwa vipi unakwazika! Lakini JF inatoa option ya kubadili jina, unaweza jiita lolote na wewe, au lako la Kiranga uliitwa ndio ukalitumia?
Penye BLUE, hapa ndio nahisi kuna kutoelewana!
Mimi sijasema watu wasiangalie market reaction,
labda wewe unajaribu ku-argue academically!
Nimefanya research ya hii kitu hadi naleta huu mjadala hapa Jamvini na ndio maana nikatoa mifano ya mikoa, kama hutaki siwezi kukulazimisha ukubaliane na research yangu!
Na ndio maana nilimwambia ZeMarcopolo kwamba kama apartment cost of construction per square metre iko chini, iweje PSPF kule Shinyanga haikujenga apartments, PPF Kule Kiseke Mwanza haikujenga apartments, NSSF Kule Kinyerezi haikujenga apartments, TBA kule Boko haikujenga apartments au Mutual Developers kule Kigamboni haikujenga apartments?
I am sorry that you wrongly got me wrong
Brother,
have time to revisit my thread!
Acha kasumba ya kusoma juujuuu ili ukimbilie kuongeza idadi ya comments na posts! Ni wapi nimesema watu wasijenge apartments mikoani?
I wrongly got you wrong? Is that like a negative times negative equals positive type of thing that would make my wrongly getting you wrongly getting you right or something other negative plus negative equals a deeper negative thing where the wrongs compound?
What exactly did I get wrong?
Do not flatter yourself.You do not have the mental capacity to suggest that you could roll with my distant poor cousin, and you want to call me your brother? In which sense? By which association? By which pedigree?
Au unafikiri kila mtu mjamaa jamaa tu anayehusudu undugu wa kirahisi rahisi na central planning ya kuonewa gele na mabakia ya Czarist chekist na Gestapo? Complete with a business building expression censorship that will take Andy Chande back to his coming of age days at Avalon?
Hivyo apartment tu mnaanza kupiga kelele, akija Shehe wa kiarabu mwenye hela zake za kuchezea anataka kujenga skyscraper lenye umbo la mnazi Mbeya ili aingie tu kwenye vitabu vya dunia kama mtu mwenye pesa na kuamua kuzichezea anavyotaka utafanya nini?
Your thinking stinks of collectivism as some have already observed above, why should I revisit this stink which is a past phase of our economy?
I might as well revisit the need for "ugawaji" and "foleni za maduka ya kaya ya CCM kununua sukari kwa daftari". That is the opposite of a market economy I am upholding here.Granted the market I advocated for is regulated by codes.
Niambie niliposoma juujuu ni wapi na nilichokosa kukielewa kwa kusoma juu juu ni kipi.
Ama sivyo, ukishindwa kuniambia hiki, wewe utakuwa ndiye unayeangalia mambo juu ju.
Nime kwambia kwamba kati yangu nawe, wewe ndiye unaye theorize bila msingi.
Hujajibu hoja bado, unarukaruka kwa viroja tu.
Naona umeanza kukimbia hoja zako kidogo kidogo!
Zimeshakuwa za moto...
Una kipaji cha kutoka kwenye hoja na kwenda kwenye viroja bila mpangilio.
You inferiority complex is conspicuosly glaring to be pointed out. Confident people who are comfortable in their own skin do not tout themselves.
Nitashangaa kama guluguja anaweza kuelewa Hegelian dialectic.
Hujasema waangalie market reaction, hata baada ya mimi ku point out kwamba this is a central compass. Unataka vitu vingine kama utamaduni vi dictate future trends.
Mimi nasisitiza the market forces on the ground kuliko kingine chochote, how is that academic?
Kwa thread hii tu, mpaka hapa, hata kama hutudanganyi na umefanya research kweli, research yako ishakuwa disqualified kwa sababu huna ubongo wa kufanya research ya kueleweka.
Umeshindwa kujibu majibu ya washashi wawili watatu tu JF, ndo utafanya research gani ya maana?
Haya makampuni ndiyo beacons of pragmatism katika real estate in the world siyo?
Si hawahawa ndo walimkopesha Sumaye mamilioni bila collateral kukawa na scandal?
Ndo unataka tuwafanye hawa role models ya businesspeople siyo?
Unaelewa kwamba watu washafunguka macho na wanaangalia Real Estate kwa mtazamo wa trends za dunia zaidi kuliko hicho kijiji ulichojifunika under a rock in?
Kwahiyo zikiwa giant maana yake ndio maamuzi wanayofanya ni sahihi?
U giant wake umetokana na nini? Huo u giant unaouzungimzia is not a result of good investment decisions ila umetokana na makato ya pension za wafanyakazi. Ingekuwa haya ni makampuni yaliyoanza kwa kuchukua mkopo somewhere na yameulipa huo mkopo bila shida na yameweza kujenga majumba, tungeona ni mashujaa lakini haya yamechukua hela za wafanyakazi na baada ya miaka 15-20 ndio tutaweza kuona kama yameinvest vizuri pesa za wafanyakazi pale yatakapoweza kulipa pension za watu bila mushkeli. Nakushauri upitie ile thread inayojadili jinsi mashirika haya mahesabu yake yalivyokaa vibaya.
Ni wapi nimesema watu wasijenge apartments mikoani?
Naona umeanza kukimbia hoja zako kidogo kidogo!
Zimeshakuwa za moto...
Sijakimbia hoja, wewe kwa ufinyu wa uelewa wako ndio hukuilewa theme ya hioja yangu, anyway ni kwa sababu sielewi kiwangu cha uelewa wako nashindwa kuendelea kubishana na wewe!
Soma kwanza heading ya thread yako ili uone jinsi ulivyoanza kukimbia kivuli chako mwenyewe...
Ukweli ni kwamba, hata kama watu wa hizo nchi ni Waarabu, nchi zao ziko barani Afrika pia na ndiyo maana hata kwenye muungano wa nchi za Afrika zina uanachama. Afrika nayo iko diverse. Siyo ya watu weusi tu.
Tunisia ilipata uhuru wake tarehe 20 mwezi Machi 1956. Na Jamhuri ya Sudan ilipata uhuru wake tarehe 1 mwezi wa Kwanza 1956 na AU inalitambua hilo kama waonyeshavyo kwenye tovuti yao hapa.
Kwa ni core business core business ya hizo parastatal ni real estate? Real estate ni ki-portion tu mzee, we wa wapi? Na unataka nitolee mfano upi kama hao waliopo ndio giant investors, unataka mifanmo ya marekani na Ulaya bado tu wakati tunaongelea Tanzania?
Dont judge a book by its cover, kumbe ulibase kwenye heading? Basi soma na content!
Hapo ndipo kunapokuja tofauti za ki-definition
Wakati wewe unachulia "Africa as a continent," wengine wanaangalia viashiria vingi zaidi katika maelezo yao
Misri ndio ya kwanza kupata uhuru kwa nchi zilizopo geographically Afrika, lakini miaka michache mbeleni ikaungana na kina Jordan kuanzisha Arab League
Libya na Sudan zimejiunga na Arab League kabla ya Ghana kupata uhuru
Morocco na Tunisia zilikuwa kwenye mchakato wa kujiunga wakati Ghana inapigania uhuru wake
Kiufupi ni kwamba jiografia pekee haimaanishi kikubwa sana katika identification ya nchi
Ndio maana kuna wanaoamua kuzitaja nchi hizo kama Mashariki ya Kati (geographically), au nchi za Kiarabu
Ili kuyasema maneno ya Mzungu ulietuletea clip yake bila ya kuwa offensive, siku hizi ndio kuna wanaotumia Kusini mwa Jangwa la Sahara
Besides, hatuna uhakika ulichoelezwa na mwalimu wako. Si hasha uliambiwa na caveats kibao, wewe ukanasa "ya kwanza Afrika" tu
Vyovyote vile mtu atakavyoamua kuchukulia, ukweli ni kwamba Ghana haikuwa nchi ya kwanza barani Afrika kupata uhuru kutoka kwa utawala kikoloni. Huo ndiyo ukweli.
Kama tunazungumzia tu uhuru kutoka utawala wa kikoloni basi hata Misri siyo ya kwanza barani Afrika. Ya kwanza ni Afrika Kusini mwaka 1910.
Inaweza isimaanishe, lakini ukweli ni ukweli tu. Kusema Ghana ni ya kwanza barani Afrika si sahihi.
Mashariki ya Kati geographically? Hapana, geographically zipo Afrika.
Ewaa, hapo sasa naweza kukubali lakini pia lazima caveat ya Afrika Kusini nayo ielezwe.
Hapana, sikunasa hicho tu. Nilisikia vyema kabisa na nikarudi nyumbani kuuliza. Nilipouliza ndo nikapewa mavitabu nisome. Niliposoma ndo nikajua kumbe Ghana siyo nchi ya kwanza kupata uhuru Afrika.
Apparently sio vyovyote vile.
Inategemea na definition utayotumia
Unahesabu ya mwaka 1910!
Na ule uhuru kutoka Uingereza mwaka 1934 unachukuliaje?
Kwa mujibu wako wewe tu, unaetizama mambo kwa a single parameter
Sasa pale ukisikia Misri ipo Mashariki ya Kati, huwa inakusudiwa kitamaduni au kifizikia, kama si kijiografia?
Kwani haielezwi?
Msema pweke hakosi,
It's your word against your teacher's ambae hayupo hapa
Kwa hiyo, utuwie radhi, tukiacha kumeza maneno yako kama yalivyo
Mimi sijaambiwa kuwa Ghana ndio nchi ya kwanza Afrika kupata Uhuru