Bank of Tanzania has a RESERVE of $5 Billion.

[Ubumuntu]

Hiyo part ya pili, inayosema ili kuleta maendeleo, hiyo umeiingiza mwenyewe katikati ya mjadala. Swali original nilishacopy na kukuonyesha, labda tu unataka kuyeyusha..

Mzee, sijui ni nini ambacho hajakielewa licha ya mimi kukielezea mara kadhaa sasa. Huu mjadala wewe umeuingilia kati. Swali langu la msingi sikulielekeza kwako, nilimuuliza mtu aliyekuja na hoja kama ya Juma Nkamia. Hapo ndipo hilo la kuleta maendeleo, lilipotokea. Ni nini usichoelewa hapa?

Na nimekueleza kabisa, niliuliza na kujadili hili kwa ku-reflect mjadala ulioanzishwa na Nkamia, ambaye ali-cite Rwanda ya Kagame kama mfano wa Rais aliyejiongezea muda akiwa madarakani ili atimize ajenda zake za maendeleo.

Erdogan amejiongezea muda akiwa madarakani. There are two components.

1. Muda (time)

Hii inamaanisha uwepo wako madarakani continuously even if you have to create a façade for sometime ili kufkia lengo hilo. Unaweza pia ku-step out for a minute na baadae kuingia tena as long as bado upo hai..

Ninachokiongelea mimi ni hilo la kujiongezea muda continuously. Ndiyo maana hoja yako ya Erdogan naikataa. Yeye hakujiongezea muda ili aendelee kuwa PM. Alibadili Katiba na kufanya urais uwe na nguvu zaidi ya uPM, kisha akagombea urais na waturuki wakamchagua kwa ridhaa yao.

2. Madaraka (power)

Constitutionally or not. Nyerere alipoendelea kuwa mwenyekiti wa CCM ilimaanisha nini? Ilimaanisha kuwa bado ni powerful na hajamwachia Mwinyi urais totally na angeweza kumuondo kama angezingua.

Putin alikuwa Waziri mkuu under Medvedev, just to buy time na kujiongezea muda constitutionally. Just to get a flimsy legal basis - ambazo sidhani kama mtu kama wewe unaziamini, let alone use them for arguments - for his power grab. He was still the most powerful na Erdogan is still the most powerful. Who cares about the Turkish PM? Nani anamjua? You really think Erdogan has stepped down? Au Putin aliachia madaraka?.

Hapa ni kama low-key unakubaliana na hoja yangu. Kwamba msingi wa mtu kutaka kuendelea kuwa madarakani (continuously or not) ni power mongering. Na siyo ati ili atimize ajenda zake za maendeleo. Hili ndilo nisilokubaliana na hoja ya Nkamia. That's why nikauliza nilivyouliza: nchi iliyoendelea kwa kiongozi kujiongezea muda ili atimize ajenda za maendeleo. You clearly say kwamba Erdogan is after madaraka. This is what Magufuli is up for pia.

Yaani kama unaamini hayo, basi utakuwa unaamini kwenye shadow laws kama zilizomuweka Nkurunzinza madarakani, au Museveni. They are just some legal manipulations..

Siamini katika hayo, ndiyo maana sikubaliana na hoja ya mtu kuongezewa muda ili alete maendeleo. Anaongezewa muda ili aendelee kuwa na madaraka tu; ambayo aidha yatampa nguvu za kumlinda dhidi ya maovu aliyoyafanya, au nguvu za kuendelea kufanya maovu zaidi.

It's that combination of power and time that dignifies my arguments and mystifies yours. Nikuelewe?
Hell no.

Sihitaji unielewe. Kunielewa ni chaguo lako. Hunielewe, usinielewe doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Tony254]

Hoja yako haikuwa kuhusu Oligarchs, ulitumia oligarchs ku - cement hoja ya income inequality. There are measures of income inequality na bado Russia ina-perform better. Nadhani hoja ya Russia kuwa non. OECD kwa hiyo kuwa nchi ya hovyo umeiacha kwa sababu haina maana, it's bogus, bologna!


Marekani ina best HDI than England, France, Sweden, Finland, Belgium,Luxembourg, Austria, New Zealand, Italy, Spain. Na unapozungumzia owning a car, unazidi ku-prove jinsi usivyoelewa. marekani, owning a car is like owning a an underwear. Matter of fact there are shoes that waay expensive than cars. I'm going through my 16th car (I only own one, don't get it twisted). Everybody in my town over the age of 16 has a car.

Marekani, living in projects is a sign of poverty. Europe is full of projects, almost 80% lives in flats, while in US house ownership is a standard. Ili kwenda best Universities marekani inabidi uwe na akili, and you will be straight. There are thousands of Europeans, and I mean thousands of them studying in State Universities (vya serikali) in US. Most State universities in US outdo a lot of Universities in Europe.

Sijui ulipoishi ila States kama huna pesa ya Shule unapewa grant, automatically, low interest Student loans na scholarship zipo bwerere kama nondo zinapanda. A lot of Americans have college degrees and their level of Innovation is beyond compare.
EU is crap!

E.U is not crap my brother. Currently, i am living in an E.U country. Ndio, Marekani imeendelea kushinda E.U lakini hio haimaanishi uongee na madharau kiasi hicho. Remember we all are black nigers na Wamarekani na Europeans, they look at us like pieces of sh*t ust because of our black skin. Hata kama una Phd, hio ni useless na mzungu atakuona ukiwa chini yake hata kama hajawahi kanyaga shule. So don't forget, you are an African Imigrant and Tanzania is your country, just like Kenya is mine. Marekani au Europe ni kwa wenyewe hata kama una citizenship ya huko. You will never belong, and i am speaking from experience. East or west home is best. Kwa hivyo comparing Marekani na Europe, na ni nchi za wenyewe, sioni kama ni jambo la busara. Anyway, it's just my opinion, and my opinion doesn,t matter, so don't worry about it.

 

[Kobello]

E.U is not crap my brother. Currently, i am living in an E.U country. Ndio, Marekani imeendelea kushinda E.U lakini hio haimaanishi uongee na madharau kiasi hicho. Remember we all are black nigers na Wamarekani na Europeans, they look at us like pieces of sh*t ust because of our black skin. Hata kama una Phd, hio ni useless na mzungu atakuona ukiwa chini yake hata kama hajawahi kanyaga shule. So don't forget, you are an African Imigrant and Tanzania is your country, just like Kenya is mine. Marekani au Europe ni kwa wenyewe hata kama una citizenship ya huko. You will never belong, and i am speaking from experience. East or west home is best. Kwa hivyo comparing Marekani na Europe, na ni nchi za wenyewe, sioni kama ni jambo la busara. Anyway, it's just my opinion, and my opinion doesn,t matter, so don't worry about it.

No I'm not. My opinion stands.

 

[Oii]

Kwa hiyo mzee, Magufuli ni dictator siyo? Naona low-key acceptance. Unasema Magufuli anafanana na Assad, Ghadaffi na Mubaraka!! Kwa hiyo hizi nchi ulizozitaja zimeendelea? Ebu ziangalie kwenye Human Deveopment Index zipo nafasi gani.

Singapore unaitaja bila kuelewa ni namna gani ilivyofika hapa. Unajua kwenye 1960s-1970s tu ilikuwa maskini kama Tanzania? Yew alikuwa visionary: alizingatia zaidi economic growth, alivuta sana expats ili walete world class manpower, aliweka transparency katika mfumo wa ukusanyaji na matumizi ya kodi, alizingatia ufanisi na ubora katika utendaji serikalini, aliweka mfumo imara sana wa kisheria na alizingatia sana sheria, aliwekeza kwenye mfumo bora kabisa wa public education (ndiyo maana hadi leo Nanyang Technological University (NTU) na National University of Singapore (NUS) ni moja ya vyuo bora kabisa duniani: NTU ni cha 11 kwa ubora duniani na NUS ni cha 15). Na human capital ndiyo ilikuwa one of the main drivers of the 'Singapore miracle'. Yew aliwekeza kweli kweli kwenye elimu; na alifanya kila namna kuhakikisha ana-retain talented citizens. NUT iliongoza kwenye technological innovations zilizo-drive manufacturing industries. Pia Yew hakuwa na mzaha kabisa na rushwa, ndiyo maana aliacha mahakama (na mfumo wa haki) ziwe huru na wazi ili zidili vyema na wala rushwa bila kuingiliwa na serikali. Na hadi leo Singapore bado inategemea sana foreign high-calibre workers na business people, thanks to Yew. Singapore siku zote ina rank highly kwenye suala la mazingira bora ya kufanya kazi na biashara, thanks to Yew. Na hadi leo hawana mzaha na rushwa hata kidogo.

Sasa unataka kumfananisha Yew na huyu kituko wetu? He isn't visionary; he is intellectually inept; he lacks even substance in his normal talks. Hakuna hata moja ambalo Yew alifanya kwa Singapore, this charlies of ours analifanya.



Kwamba Merkel ni dictator ama kajiongezea muda? None of the two ni sahahi. Kwa sababu Katiba ya Ujerumani haina term limit kwenye nafasi ya the Chancellor. So, Merkel can vie for chancellorship as many times as she can.

Unamtaja Xi, mtu ambaye ndiyo kwanza Katiba imebadilishwa. Lakini kama nilivyosema awali, China wameshaendelea hata kabla ya badiliko la presidential term limit. Na kama ni mfuatiliaji wa siasa za China, badiliko hilo halihusiana hata kidogo na narrative ya kupata muda wa kuleta maendeleo. Linahusu zaidi internal na regional power struggles, jiongeze kidogo iki upate kuelewa.



Magufuli ana manufaa gani? Zaidi ya ufisadi (alioanza kufanya toka akiwa waziri; na anaoendelea kuufanya sasa kwa kuweka mambo yahusuyo fedha za umma, mikataba, tenda n.k., gizani), uroho mbaya (kutamka wazi kwamba anataka wananchi waliomchagua waishi kama mashetani), ujinga (ni intellectually inept), upambaji wa rushwa (siyo upambanaji, ref. Mnyeti, na biashara ya kununua wapinzani na wasanii) n.k.

The charlie has been part of corrupt CCM governments for 20+ years. He did nothing special or extraordinary to differentiate himself from the rest of CCM crooks. In fact, kama nilivyosema, he was (still is) himself very corrupt (ref. CAG reports on Dar Ferry, government houses, road construction contracts) na mwenye maamuzi ya kukurupuka yaliyoitia serikali hasara (ref. Furahisha petrol station, na 'samaki wa Magufuli' saga).

Kama manufaa, anayo kwa CCM na posse yake tu.

You're full of shit, can't waste me time enlightening you, because the insults you've spewed on Magufuli tells what kind of a maniac hater towards him, you're. Jiandae na his landslide win in 2020, so you can go hang your shitty self

 

[Ubumuntu]

You're full of shit, can't waste me time enlightening you, because the insults you've spewed on Magufuli tells what kind of a maniac hater towards him, you're. Jiandae na his landslide win in 2020, so you can go hang your shitty self

You, enlightening me?!? What a joke!!!

It doesn't mean shit to me whether he wins or not. To me, he is still and will always be a crook, and intellectually inept sadistic charlie. Yeah, he will go down the history as a cuckoo who was ruled Tanzania.

Vipi vumbi na jua huko? Endelea kupauka kwa kujifanya pro-********, wakati yeye na posse wake wanakula kuku kwa mrija.

 

[Oii]

You, enlightening me?!? What a joke!!!

It doesn't mean shit to me whether he wins or not. To me, he is still and will always be a crook, and intellectually inept sadistic charlie. Yeah, he will go down the history as a cuckoo who was ruled Tanzania.

Vipi vumbi na jua huko? Endelea kupauka kwa kujifanya pro-********, wakati yeye na posse wake wanakula kuku kwa mrija.

Eti nakula vumbi, as if u know me. Sadistic shitty people like you, mnajulikanaga na vikauli mavi mnavyoongea, uzuri mpo kila mahali, y'all need enlightenment. Yesu, Mungu, mtume Mohamed wanachukiwa, sembuse tingatinga, your hate changes nothing.
Majority watu kama nyinyi, lazima reforms zake zimewagusa na kuwaumiza.
2020 ndio utajua haters mpo finyu, fvck 2020. Shuhudia 26042018

 

[Ubumuntu]

Eti nakula vumbi, as if u know me. Sadistic shitty people like you, mnajulikanaga na vikauli mavi mnavyoongea, uzuri mpo kila mahali, y'all need enlightenment. Yesu, Mungu, mtume Mohamed wanachukiwa, sembuse tingatinga, your hate changes nothing.
Majority watu kama nyinyi, lazima reforms zake zimewagusa na kuwaumiza.
2020 ndio utajua haters mpo finyu, fvck 2020. Shuhudia 26042018

Kujua mtu mla vumbi siyo lazima nikujue in person. Ninakuja kupitia maandishi yako, DUH!!!

Reforms hizi za kufanya mambo gizani (kujitoa OGP), za kutotii katiba na sheria (kufanya matumizi ya pesa bila idhini ya Bunge, kutofuata amri ya Mahakama n.k.) na za kuua uchumi wa nchi kwa ghiliba zake na uroho wa korosho wake, hakika kila aliye timamu atazichukia. Okay, zinaweza zikawa hazikugusi wewe, pengine kazi yako ni ku-wipe his tail end. Lakini zinawagusa na kuwaumiza majority, ambao hawana kwenye genge la kifisadi na kiuaji la ********.

Najua, wewe kama programmed robot, huwezi kuelewa niliyokwambia. I'm thus not expecting you kunielewa, let alone kukubali kwamba Magufuli is a phony.

 

[Kobello]

bu nitajie nchi moja tu, ambayo kiongozi kakaa madarakani kwa muda mrefu (kwa kubadili katiba na kujiongezea muda) na nchi hiyo imeendelea?

Hii ni post yako ya kwanza kabisa kwenye huu uzi. Na ndiyo focus ya jibu langu.
Hayo mambo ya Nkamia, Rwanda na ili alete maendeleo ni muendelezo wa miyeyusho.
But I know you've learnt something. I can tell.

 

[Ubumuntu]

Hii ni post yako ya kwanza kabisa kwenye huu uzi. Na ndiyo focus ya jibu langu.
Hayo mambo ya Nkamia, Rwanda na ili alete maendeleo ni muendelezo wa miyeyusho..

Kwa sababu wewe ni kichwa ngumu, ndiyo maana umefikiro hivyo.

Nimesema wazi kabisa uliponiuliza basis na fundamentals za swali langu. Ni broader picture ya mjadala wa Magufuli kuongezewa muda.

But I know you've learnt something. I can tell.

Of course, it is obvious nimejifunza ulivyo kichwa ngumu, kuelewa.

Kwa sababu hata jibu lako la Erdogan halijajibu swali langu la msingi, na nimeshaeleza ni kivipi hujajibu.

 

[Kobello]

Of course, it is obvious nimejifunza ulivyo kichwa ngumu, kuelewa.

Kwa sababu hata jibu lako la Erdogan halijajibu swali langu la msingi, na nimeshaeleza ni kivipi hujajibu.

Wewe sasa ni kichwa panzi. Lini Erdogan aliacha kuwa kiongozi (labda nitumie neon mtawala) wa Uturuki? Unaongea kama dogo wa form six HGL eti Head of State/government. Think practically.
The dude has been leading Turkey since 2003. Everything political has and is still centered on him and political forecasters have him leading till 2029.

Wewe unaanza kunipa blah blah za Prime Minister/President. There's a point in life, theories become impractical. Erdogan has never been ceremonial, ever.

 

[Tony254]

Wewe sasa ni kichwa panzi. Lini Erdogan aliacha kuwa kiongozi (labda nitumie neon mtawala) wa Uturuki? Unaongea kama dogo wa form six HGL eti Head of State/government. Think practically.
The dude has been leading Turkey since 2003. Everything political has and is still centered on him and political forecasters have him leading till 2029.

Wewe unaanza kunipa blah blah za Prime Minister/President. There's a point in life, theories become impractical. Erdogan has never been ceremonial, ever.

Kwa sababu wewe ni kichwa ngumu, ndiyo maana umefikiro hivyo.

Nimesema wazi kabisa uliponiuliza basis na fundamentals za swali langu. Ni broader picture ya mjadala wa Magufuli kuongezewa muda.



Of course, it is obvious nimejifunza ulivyo kichwa ngumu, kuelewa.

Kwa sababu hata jibu lako la Erdogan halijajibu swali langu la msingi, na nimeshaeleza ni kivipi hujajibu.

Guyz get a room please.

 

[Tony254]

Guyz get a room please.

Anyway just kidding. You guyz are brothers from the same country. You should respect each other.

 

[Ubumuntu]

Wewe sasa ni kichwa panzi. Lini Erdogan aliacha kuwa kiongozi (labda nitumie neon mtawala) wa Uturuki? Unaongea kama dogo wa form six HGL eti Head of State/government. Think practically.
The dude has been leading Turkey since 2003. Everything political has and is still centered on him and political forecasters have him leading till 2029.

Wewe unaanza kunipa blah blah za Prime Minister/President. There's a point in life, theories become impractical. Erdogan has never been ceremonial, ever.

Sawa, kichwa ngumu.

 

[Kobello]

Sawa, kichwa ngumu.

Aisee.