Barrick na Tanzania waunda Kampuni ya ubia iitwayo Twiga Minerals na Serikali itamiliki asilimia 16

[Geza Ulole]

16% chunk kwa turnover ya company kubwa kama Barrick ni lots of money, millions of dollars hizo.

the three minings are valued at $3.5-4 bln!

 

[Naton Jr]

the three minings are valued at $3.5-4 bln!

Can we have their annual collective net income so that we can get the actual amount of 16%?

 

[babayao255]

Good job.

 

[Ng'wanamangilingili]

Udhembe walifanya watangulizi wake wakina Ben , wangekomaa mwanzo safari hii ingepanda hadi40% ,

Haiwezekani 40% kiongozi

 

[Geza Ulole]

Can we have their annual collective net income so that we can get the actual amount of 16%?

You can derive from yearly production before a concentrates ban by GoT.

Barrick Gold Corporation - Home

www.acaciamining.com

Barrick Gold Corporation - Home

www.acaciamining.com

Barrick Gold Corporation - Home

www.acaciamining.com

My rough estimates r from the amount paid to other shareholders ($1.2 bln) who controled 36% of Acacia mining n Barrickgold had to buy them out before dissolving Acacia mining!

 

[Naton Jr]

You can derive from yearly production before a concentrates ban by GoT.

Barrick Gold Corporation - Home

www.acaciamining.com

Barrick Gold Corporation - Home

www.acaciamining.com

Barrick Gold Corporation - Home

www.acaciamining.com

My rough estimates r from the amount paid to other shareholders ($1.2 bln) who controled 36% of Acacia mining n Barrickgold had to buy them out before dissolving Acacia mining!

All that plus economic benefits from taxes, royalties, clearing fees in a 50/50 manner, this sounds like we are going to double all of the current earnings from the sector. If not to triple the figure

 

[HIMARS]

Watanzania wengi wanajua kiingeleza ila hawajui kilichoandikwa kiingeleza.
The devil is in the details.
Tunafurahia 50-50 wakati 50 yao inachukua kodi na tozo zote pamoja na hisa zao 16pc. Hivyo mataka taka mengine yatakuwa 34pc hapo tumeweka CTax, CSR, SL, SDL etc

 

[HIMARS]

Tumeambiwa tunachotaka kujua. Ila wao wanajua ukweli zaidi. Unawaona wale jamaa wajinga?
Concentrate inasafirishwa nje kuanzia kesho

[emoji375]16% free carried shares
[emoji375]All company's transactions in Tanzania
[emoji375]Company HQ in Mwanza
[emoji375]50/50 economics benefits
[emoji375]Maximum government inclusiveness inside company
[emoji375]All experts from Tanzania
[emoji375]Dropping of all lawsuits against Tanzania
[emoji375]Concentrates export under new terms
[emoji375] Other 10s of new benefits

Simply Tanzania won

 

[RAYAN THE DON]

Kwenye negotiations kuna give and take. Kwa kutambua kuwa tulikuwa kwenye disadvantaged position kufanya mazungumzo ilibidi serikali kutafuta bargaining chip oli barrick walazimike kurudi mezani ($190 bln tax slap).

Kupata free carried interests/shares kutoka 4% mpaka 16% siyo hatua ndogo. Kumbuka kwa mikataba tunayoingia, barrick ndiyo "wamiliki halisi" wa madini hayo.

Kuhusu control ya 50/50 sharin of economic benefits, serikali imehakikisha makubaliano yanafanya chief wa expenses za kampuni mpya anakuwa mtanzania. Hspo issue ya endapo atakuwa bribed ni nyingine.

Pia miamala yote lazima ifanyike kwenye benki za Tz na HQ ikiwa Rock City. Kila mwisho wa mwaka kuna review ya ku-check hiyo 50/50 thing.

Hata kama haitakuwa "perfect" 50/50, kimsingi ni kuwa hatua iliyopigwa ni kubwa na bro Magu anastahili pongezi.

Mwenzake way back 2016 mikataba mingi ilipokuwa inaisha ambalo ilikuwa fursa adhimu kuweka new terms, alichoweza ni kupandisha mrahaba from 3 to 4%!

4% to 16% unaona ni hatua kubwa sana? Kivipi ni hatua kubwa?

Madini ni yenu mnanyanyaswa then unajisifia kwamba ni hatua kubwa hiyo.

Kwanini Tanzania asimiliki asilimia 50 ya hisa na 50 zingine apewe Barrick?
Suala kusema kwamba hamna capital or teknolojia hizo ni lame arguments na ni ugonjwa mbaya sana kwenu nyie maana bila kujiongeza mtazidi kuonewa tu.
Tanzania ina migodi mingi ila bado umasikini unawasumbua sana.

Kwanini msibinafsishe hata migodi miwili tu kwa masharti kwamba wawape mashines za kila aina za kuchiba na kuchakata madini hapa hapa Tanzania?

 

[Naton Jr]

Tumeambiwa tunachotaka kujua. Ila wao wanajua ukweli zaidi. Unawaona wale jamaa wajinga?
Concentrate inasafirishwa nje kuanzia kesho

The final agreements have been submitted to the Tanzanian Attorney General for review and legalization.

Taarifa inasema mpaka AG aweke sahihi nafikiri itakua ni siku maalum huenda ikafanyikia ikulu, hizo Concentrates hazitoondoka kama awali lazima zitakua valued accordingly

Magu alipiga ban ya concentrates sababu yalikua yakichukuliwa kama takataka ndio maana ya ile billions of escaped taxes, kwa hiyo kama awamu hii wamekubaliana concentrate ziondoke maana yake ni kwa utaratibu mpya.

 

[Naton Jr]

Tusisahau pia haya makinikia yalikua yakiweka bandari yetu busy, fikiria containers 300 kwa mwezi, madereva wangapi wanapata ajira?

Lakini kama makinikia yatakuwa yakitoka huku madini ndani yake yameshalipiwa tozo zote hakuna shida

 

[magu2016]

Ukienda kwenye jukwa la siasa kuna Watanzania wenye ufahamu wa ndani wa mambo ya madini, wamefanya analysis kali sana na kuiponda hii, yaani sio kwamba hawakua wakipata chochote, ila ukipiga mahesabu ya walichokua wakipata dhidi ya watakachopata kwa sasa utaona hayo makelele yote hayakua na umuhimu.
Huko kwenye jukwaa la siasa watu wanatiana ngeu, yaani wanadadavua balaa.

Hao ni wanasiasa umeshasema kwahiyo wanachodadavua siyo uhalisia

 

[Hassan r rwitita]

Wazungu wanatuokota kupiti akina kabudi yaani unasifia 16% sikiona vizuri nilpongeza nikajua ni 46% kumbe 16% bado bado!

 

[Tony254]

4% to 16% unaona ni hatua kubwa sana? Kivipi ni hatua kubwa?

Madini ni yenu mnanyanyaswa then unajisifia kwamba ni hatua kubwa hiyo.

Kwanini Tanzania asimiliki asilimia 50 ya hisa na 50 zingine apewe Barrick?
Suala kusema kwamba hamna capital or teknolojia hizo ni lame arguments na ni ugonjwa mbaya sana kwenu nyie maana bila kujiongeza mtazidi kuonewa tu.
Tanzania ina migodi mingi ila bado umasikini unawasumbua sana.

Kwanini msibinafsishe hata migodi miwili tu kwa masharti kwamba wawape mashines za kila aina za kuchiba na kuchakata madini hapa hapa Tanzania?

Unafikiria kama watu milioni moja

 

[ng'adi lawi]

Nini maana ya ubia kama anayelipa kodi zote ni mmoja?

Ubia maana yake ni mgawanyo wa faida baada ya kodi yaani gawio. Fahamu kuwa kampuni ni kama mtu anayejitegemea. Wenye hisa wanaweka pesa kwake ili azizalishe kwa hiyo hata serikali ikinunua hisa ni lzm iweke pesa. Hapo itaweka 16% ya jumla ya mtaji watakaokubaliana na kutakuwa mjumbe wa serikali kwenye bodi ya hiyo kampuni. Kampuni ikipata faida na kulipa kodi zote albaki inagawanywa serikali 16% na Barrick 84%. Mrabaha ni sehemu ya mauzo kuwe na faida hapana. Kuhusu gawio ni kwamba hakuna mwekezaji ambaye atawekeza bila kupata faida. Sheria tra ni miaka mitatu hasara wanakadiria faida ili wapate kodi na lzm ilipwe.

 

[Yamakagashi]

Hamna mnyama mwingine, Twiga kila siku anazingua kwenye bombardier

 

[Yamakagashi]

Hizo 16% ya hisa ni class gani?

Sheria mpya ya madini ndiyo imezingatiwa. Asilimia 16 ni hisa na bado watalipa asilimia 6 ya mauzo kama mrabaha na kodi ya mapato asilimia 30 ya faida baada ya gharama zote( net profit).

 

[Mwanamageuko]

Mbona Serikali ina % ndogo sana kweli safari ya kunufaika na madini TZ bado ndefu

Tuliambiwa 50% kwa 50% kama hawataki waende maana sisi ndio wenye mali!!! (Wakashangilia wakiamini na kila mtu atapata Noah yake)
Mwisho wa siku 16% (tunaaminishwa tutakula miaka 50 kuliko...) waacheni washangilie tu kwa maana hakuna namna tena...

 

[Mwanamageuko]

Ongezea na 1% inspection fee (kama madini watayasafrisha nje). Kwa ujumla
1. Royalities = 6%
2. Corporate tax 30%
3. Inspction fee 1%
TOTAL CONTRIBUTION = 37%. Ambapo ktk ubia GOT inachangia "LAND" wakt wao watachangia " TECHNOLOGY na MACHINE/TOOLS.

Tusijisahaulishe kwamba na huyo mbia mwenye 16% makato hayo yanamhusu... maana shareholder hugawana faida na hasara

 

[Gulwa]

Tumeambiwa kuwa serikali inamiliki hisa 16 na mabeberu watamiliki hisa 84 lakini wakasema faida itakuwa 50/50! Kama ni hivyo kwa nini na hisa zisiwe 50/50? Nahisi kuna kitu hakiko wazi naomba kama kuna mtu mwenye ufafanuzi wa hili anisaidie