Benki ya Exim ya China kuichukua bandari ya Mombasa endapo Kenya itashindwa kurejesha mkopo iliochukua ili kujenga reli ya kisasa (SGR)

[Magonjwa Mtambuka]

Hebu sahihisha kizungu ugoko wewe MTU! Ongea hoja si kupropagate hutaniweza! Mmoja ya makubwa ya wasiojitambua ni wewe na mob yako!

Hoja yangu ni mzungu ni a million afadhali kuliko huyo mvimba macho mfano ni SFO unabisha nini sasa? Za rada hazikurudi? Na madeni yanu kusamehewa?

Kama niliyoandika hapo ni uongo leta ukweli wako sasa, that is a live reference hebu bisha kwa reference yako sio kulandia huku huna reference except ya Walter Rodney! Poor you

Arguing with you is wasting my time here. There is a plethora of writings and vivid examples out there showing how Europeans continue to plunder hitherto the wealth and resources of Africa. As far as I am concerned there is no difference between the Chinese and Europeans when it comes to exploiting the African continent.

 

[Kasimba G]

Arguing with you is wasting my time here. There is a plethora of writings and vivid examples out there showing how Europeans continue to plunder hitherto African wealth and resources. As far as I am concerned there is no difference between the Chinese and Europeans when it comes to exploiting the African continent.

I didn't deny but better the devil you know than the angel you don't know, Europeans are far better than these other fellows that was my argument!

 

[kmbwembwe]

Benki ya Exim ya China huenda ikaichukua Bandari ya Mombasa, endapo #Kenya itashindwa kurejesha mkopo iliochukua ili kujenga reli ya kisasa (SGR). Kenya ilikopa TZS trilioni 7.2 kwa ajili ya reli hiyo mwaka 2013.

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Chinese may take over Mombasa port: Ouko

The Daily Nation
SUMMARY

• The government borrowed the billions to construct the Mombasa-Nairobi standard gauge railway (SGR), against opposition that it could become a white elephant.
• A report by Auditor-General Edward Ouko states that the payment agreement substantively means that the revenue of the Kenya Ports Authority would be used to clear the debt.
• The auditor notes that the agreement is biased since any non-performance or dispute with the bank would be referred to arbitration in China, “whose fairness is resolving the disagreement may not be guaranteed”.
• Ouko accuses the KPA management of not disclosing the guarantee documents in its financial statements.

Kenya could lose the port of Mombasa to the Chinese government if Kenya Railways Corporation (KRC) defaults in the payment of Sh227 billion owed to Exim Bank of China.

The government borrowed the billions to construct the Mombasa-Nairobi standard gauge railway (SGR), against opposition that the project by China Roads and Bridges Corporation (CRBC), a Chinese State-owned company, could become a white elephant. The country's sovereignty is now at stake.

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Ndio ile kukopa harusi kulipa matanga. Mumejengewa reli lipeni sio kuleta ngebengebe. Mlidhani mnapewa bure. Mbona nchi za magharabi hua wanatoa masharti magumu kuliko hayo. China sio malaika eti wagawe pesa tu.

 

[Magonjwa Mtambuka]

I didn't deny but better the devil you know than the angel you don't know, Europeans are far better than these other fellows that was my argument!

Well, it was the Europeans ("the devil we know") who colonized and brutalized Africa. Have they suddenly turned to be our angels and saviours? Africans should know better.

 

[Kasimba G]

Well, it was the Europeans ("the devil we know") who colonized and brutalized Africa. Africans should know better.

Mark my word, these other fellows agenda is to colonize Africa again, if you poses a perfect charisma you won't doubt that! God forbid!! They sound sweet but their inner core slot is bitter!

 

[Taavid]

Yaani mikataba 17 iliyoandikwa kichina ilisainiwa kwa nusu saa

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[Magonjwa Mtambuka]

Mark my word, these other fellows agenda is to colonize Africa again, if you poses a perfect charisma you won't doubt that! God forbid!! They sound sweet but their inner core slot is bitter!

All have the same nefarious and heinous agenda. I insist:- there is no difference between the two. Africans must be on the watch.

 

[Kasimba G]

All have the same nefarious and heinous agenda. I insist:- there is no difference between the two. Africans must be on the watch.

But making reference to SFO versa vee Ladar I would lather give the Europeans a benefit of a doubt! I'm Trying to think on current issues of our brethren, look Zambia, Gambia, Ethiopia and now Kenya issues sound sweet traumatic!!! My conclusion better those who colonizes us then than these new fellows!!

And by the way do you know they like our meat??? Don't go alone when you are invited, make sure you are escorted by a tyrant muscular never beaten chat!

 

[Magonjwa Mtambuka]

But making reference to SFO versa vee Ladar I would lather give the Europeans a benefit of a doubt! I'm Trying to think on current issues of our brethren, look Zambia, Gambia, Ethiopia and now Kenya issues sound sweet traumatic!!! My conclusion better those who colonizes us then than these new fellows!!

And by the way do you know they like our meat??? Don't go alone when you are invited, make sure you are escorted by a tyrant muscular never beaten chat!

It is fallacious, if not spurious, to think Europeans are anything better than the Chinese. For Africans who have endured the ills of colonialism and slavery to turn around and embrace the same Europeans as their guardian angels is bizzare, to say the least.

 

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Hayo ndo manufaa ya mikopo isiyo na masharti.
Mtu mwenye nia njema lazima akuulize itarudishaje mkopo? Mfano benki hawawezi kukupa mkopo bila kuangalia financial statement yako.

Wale wakopeshaji wa mtaani akijua una nyumba au gari anakupa pesa tena kwa muda mfupi huku akikuandikisha mkataba wa kwamba umemuuzia, nia ya wakopeshaji wa mtaani si kukusaidia bali kuchukua mali zako. Na mkopo wa kichina ndo ulivyo

Ukienda kukopa kama zuzu,kwamba mchina ni rafiki wa kweli,kwamba wao siyo beberu UMELIWA

 

[infinix]

Kama hii habari ina ukweli basi Tanzania tutaathirika sana maana itakuwa vigumu bandari yetu kushindana na wachina

Tena tulivyo na akili mbovuu!
Hata tusome vipi,mikataba yetu inazidi kuwa ya hovyo kupindukia.
Tukasema tuna mawaziri maprofesa,..kumbe ndio hao kina profeserio rrabbish

 

[Escrowseal1]

Wawachukue pamoja na raia

Hapo ndipo waafrika wanatia adabu

 

[Uchira 1]

hakuna urafiki wa kweli kati ya chui na simba kamwe

 

[Richard irakunda]

Unafikiri china ya leo ni ile ya enzi ya mwalimu eeehhh shubaaaamit mikopo ya china ya miaka hii kulipa lazma na tena ndo ina masharti ya kinyonyaji kupindukia.China ujamaa umebaki kwenye museum kwa sasa ni mabepari kuliko mabepari wenyewe wanaijua pesa hatareee hawacheki na kima!

kwa tanzania sidhani labda wajilipe kwa siri mkuu

kumbuka kichwa ngumu wa kusaini EPA ni tz ambapo analinda utajiri wake na mda huohuo analinda biashara ya china africa

kama tz akisaini EPA unadhani nn kitatokea kwa china?

kuna bidhaa ata moja ya china inayoweza kusimama na bidhaa ya ujerumani?

tafuta majengo ya kijerumani mfano stesheni ya kigoma uone ubora wake

 

[KalamuTena]

China hajawahi kuwa rafiki kwa mataifa ya Afrika

Aliwahi. Alipotujengea TAZARA tukashindwa kuiendesha sisi wenyewe.
Aliwahi, mChina wa wakati huo alitusaidia katika mapambano ya kulikomboa bara letu.

Tuwazungumzie hawa waChina wa leo.

Lakini hata wao mimi siwalaumu sana maanake hata wakitugonga wanafanya hivyo kwa upuuzi wetu wenyewe.

Nalaumu sisi wenyewe tusiopenda kubadilika. Tunabaki kuwa kama watoto tuuu miaka nenda miaka rudi! Ni vipi hatuwezi sisi wenyewe kujua zuri au baya mpaka tuambiwe na wengine?

Ni vipi tukubali kuingia kwenye mikataba tunayojua haina faida kwetu? Haya ndiyo maswali tunayotakiwa kuwauliza viongozi wetu na sisi wenyewe. Tuache kuhamishia lawama kila mara kwa wengine. Tunajionyesha kuwa kama mazuzu vile.

 

[Turnkey]

Reli ya TAZARA ilijengwa na nani? Kiwanda cha urafiki?

Au wewe una akili kuliko Nyerere?

Reli ya Tazara imepita Selou kwa sehemu kubwa ...waliuwa Tembo kibao...Tembo walikuwepo zaidi ya laki tatu sasa hivi aibu

 

[The Mongolian Savage]

Source?
Hatuwezi kuthibitisha kwa vimaneno vichache hivyo hebu jazia nyama

Tulia wewee

 

[Onjwaria]

Sasa wakitunyang'anya ziwa letu victoria si ndiyo wavuvi wetu watakuwa wametiwa umasikini?

kwa sasa mvuvi yupi tajiri au umesahau rula

 

[Onjwaria]

Alisha kwambia kuwa gesi imeshachukuliwa na wakubwa

Tukymbushane gesi wale wanaoitwa mabeberu walijitahidi sana bungeni kutetea hadi kina Mnyika wakatolewa nje. Sasa hivi eti gesi ya wakubwa, kumbe ccm inatetea wakubwa halafu hasara ikishapatikana wale waliopinga na kuutetea uzalendo wanaitwa mabeberu. Yaani kwa kifupi sisikiii tena Kinyerezi 1, 2 wala 3.

 

[mwanza]

Hata sisi hii mikopo itatuumbua tu

Hii miradi mbali na kuongeza deni la Taifa,ukweli ni kwamba hailipi na zaidi ni mzigo tu kwa hizi serikali zetu.

Hii miradi ingeachiwa private sector au serikali ingekuwa na hisa kidogo lakini sio kumiliki hii miradi kwa asilimia 100.

Niwaambie tu,SGR na ATCL ni mizigo tutakayoibeba kwa kodi zetu.

Tumekuwa mateka wa fahari ya macho na kupuuza uhalisia-mtu mmoja kwa kutumia cheo na madaraka yake kawafanya watu mazuzu wasione mbele.

Watu wanashangilia na kusifu wakati mikataba inafanywa siri na wala hawajiulizi!!

Kujenga miundombinu ni kazi ya serikali dunia nzima, sgr wapi utapata mwekezaji ? Ndege ya taifa duniani kote kila nchi INA shirika lake na ni wajibu ili kuuza Utalii au tukubali watalii wapitie kwa wenzetu.
JPM inabidi tumpongeze kwa sababu hata sisi Wachina walishatuingiza mkenge kwenye sgr na bandari ya Bagamoyo, ni JPM aliyepangua akasema tutajenga kwa pesa yetu, kiukweli wengi hatumuelewa sasa ndio akili zimeamka tumeelewa kwa nini alifutilia mbali mikopo ya Wachina.
Lakini najua kwa sababu ya unafikiri wa watz na siasa uchwara za kipuuzi wengi hatuwezi kumpongeza kwa hilo ila ukweli ndio huo JPM katuokoa kutoka makucha ya Wachina