Chimbuko na Upotofu wa kanisa la Waadventista Wasabato

Huyo Paulo ndo mpotoshaji Mkubwa namna alivyoingia Kwa Kuua Wanafunzi wa Yesu Wote. Halafu akasema nimekutana Yesu kanipa Utume, yaani Uue wanafunzi wake halafu akupe Utume?
 
...ndio maana sometime huwa nawaza kuingia kanisani popote, iwe rc, sabato, walokole n.k but imani yangu itaniponya, haya wale wa papa kuoana jinsia moja, wale wa kutumia sarafu moja dunia nzima, na wasabato sio wote wapo upande wa mungu, hasa wakubwa
 
Huwa mnajadili mambo ya kipuuzi sana sasa hata tukiuliza huyo yesu sijui mungu ni nani hamtupi majibu. Halafu kutwa mnajadili mara ala yuko sawa mara yesu ndio mungu mara yehova, mara omba utapewa, mara utapewa anachotaka mara utachomwa moto mara ooh mbinguni ndio makazi yetu kiufupi hata ninye wahusika hamjui hata mmachokiabudu.
 
Mpuuzi ni wewe husiyejua hata unalouuliza? Swali lako ni lipi?
 
Mpuuzi ni wewe husiyejua hata unalouuliza? Swali lako ni lipi?
Wewe hapo umeona swali gani?
Mimi nachosemea ni kwamba mmekuwa wapuuzi kujadili upuuzi yaani mmekuwa mapuzi empire,
Kwasababu mnachoabudu ni upuuzi, mnachosema ni upuuzi mnachojadili ni upuuzi,
 
Wewe hapo umeona swali gani?
Mimi nachosemea ni kwamba mmekuwa wapuuzi kujadili upuuzi yaani mmekuwa mapuzi empire,
Kwasababu mnachoabudu ni upuuzi, mnachosema ni upuuzi mnachojadili ni upuuzi,
Unachofanya nini? Wewe pia si unajadili? Kuna upuuzi zaidi ya huuu wa kuamini Mohammad ni mtume,, na wakati hata Yeye hajui hatima yake Siku ya kihama????
 

Hiyo ni link ya critics wa egw.

Wanatoa taarifa muhimu, kuhusu baadhi ya visions za egw, hususan za huko mwanzoni.

Alikuwa anasema anaona vision, kumbe alikuwa anatoa maoni yake, kutokana na uelewa wake, wa jinsi alivyojifunza kuhusu jambo fulani.

Ila hawa critics, kuna mahali pengine wanaharibu, kwa kukataa mafundisho ya kweli ya kibiblia (kama sabato ya siku ya saba). Ingawa kuna mahali pengine wanapatia, kwa kuunga mkono mafundisho ya kweli ya kibiblia (kama Utatu Mtakatifu).

Hawa critics pia inaonekana walikuwa ni opportunists.

Mapungufu ya mafundisho ya kanisa la sda ni haya:

1) Shetani na malaika zake hawa kuanguka kabla ya wiki ya uumbaji. Kwa sababu malaika wote (including Lucifer, ambae baadae ali muasi Mungu) waliumbwa siku ya pili ya wiki ya uumbaji.

2) Hakuna viumbe wengine kama binadamu kwenye sayari nyingine (kama sda wengi wanavyo fundisha).

3) "The Day of Atonement" ni tofauti na "the Day of Judgment". New tastement fulfilment of the Day of Atonement inaanza baada ya kufufuka na kupaa kwa Bwana Yesu, na inaisha at the end of probation period (karibia kabisa na ujio wake wapili).

Sanctuary linalokuwa cleansed in 1844, ni kanisa huku duniani. Mafundisho ya kweli (including the 10 commandments, and the seventh day sabbath) yanarudi kanisani, na mafundisho ya uongo yanaondolewa.

4) Wabatize kwa staili waliyoitumia mitume wa Yesu, mtu ana inama kidogo kwa mbele, huku amesimama, huku akidumbukia kabisa kwenye maji. Wasibatize kwa staili ya mtu kalala kwa mgongo, wana mshika na kumdumbukiza kwenye maji.

5) Wasi wapinge sda wenzao, wanao sema kwamba Yesu alizaliwa during the Feast of Tabernacles. Kwa sababu kiukweli Yesu alizaliwa during the Feast of Tabernacles.

6) Wakubali kwamba hawa hodhi ukanisa wa kweli, na kwamba endapo kuna wasabato wanaofuata biblia ambao sio sda, wasabato hao hawana tatizo.

7) Waumini wa sda wawe pia na tabia nzuri kwenye maisha yao.

8) Baadhi ya mafundisho ya mama Ellen White ni maoni yake, na sio vitu alivyo viona kwenye maono (visions). Kwa hiyo baadhi ya mafundisho yake yanaweza yasiwe sahihi. Of course mama Ellen White yuko sahihi kwenye mafundisho yake mengi.

9) Ni vizuri wakristo weusi wakajua prophesies mbali mbali za kwenye Biblia, zinazo ongelea kuhusu injili kuja Afrika. Wakristo weusi, tu avoid a white/Eurocentric view of the bible, na tuwe na a true view of the Bible, which is a biblical centric view of the bible. Wakristo weusi tujaribu pia kuwa na makanisa huru yanayojitegemea (tushirikiane na watu wengine, lakini tusiwe tegemezi kwa watu wengine).

Sda wako sahihi kabisa kabisa kabisa kwamba sabato ni siku ya saba (Jumamosi), na kwamba Bwana Yesu Kristo hakubadilisha siku ya sabato. Na kwamba mpinga Kristo ndiye aliebadilisha siku ya sabato kutoka siku ya saba kwenda siku ya kwanza ya wiki.

Moral of the story ni: Mkristo yeyote anatakiwa kusikiliza mafundisho yanayoendana na biblia, usisikilize mafundisho ambayo hayafuati mafundisho ya biblia (hata kama ni mafundisho ya dhehebu lako).

So injili ya kweli, ni kwamba Utatu Mtakatifu upo, amri 10 zipo (hazikubadilishwa), sabato ni siku ya saba (Jumamosi), tufuate mafundisho ya Bwana Yesu Kristo kama Biblia inavyosema, na Biblia ni kitabu kitakatifu cha YAHWEH (Mungu wa Biblia). Ukristo ndio dini ya ukweli, dini nyingine zote ni za uongo.

Any way tuendelee na shughuli zetu za maisha hadi siku ya mwisho ya dunia, wakati huo huo tukiendelea kumkumbuka Bwana Yesu Kristo hadi siku hiyo atakapo rudi.

 
Andiko lako ni refu wengi hawatalisoma lote.
Mimi ni m adventista msabato. Bahati nzuri nilikulia Rc kabla ya kuamini kuwa M sda. Hoja moja na kujibu japo niko safari sijatulia ili kukupa rejea nyingi.
HOJA ya PATAKATIFU na kuingia kwa YESU.
Huenda huelewi na hivyo ukubali kujifunza au hutaki kujifunza au kwa makysudi umechogua kypotosha japo unaelewa. Sasa vyovyote nitakuomba utulie ufuatilie kile nasema.
Ili kuifikia hoja hii lazima ujue wokovu wa mwanadamu mwenye dhambi unapatikanaje?
1. WOKOVU NI kwa Imani juu ya Yesu. Haipo juhudi ya mtu bali mimi na wewe kazi yetu ni KUAMINI kuwa Mungu ametuokoa.

"
8 Kwa maana mmeokolewa kwa neema, kwa njia ya imani; ambayo hiyo haikutokana na nafsi zenu, ni kipawa cha Mungu;
Waefeso 2:8
Jambo lingine uelewe kuwa mpango wa wokovu ni kwa wote kama dhambi ilivyo universal, kila kabila , lugha na jamaa, hakuna cha myahudi upekee wala myunani au muadrika wote tunaokolewa kwamfumo mmoja. Dhambi imetupata wote kupitia mfumo au chanzo kimojakadhalika na wokovu una mfumo mmoja. Mungu hana kanuni tofauti kwamba huyu ataangaliwa kwa vigezo hivi na yule kile, hakuna uongo wa kusema kila umma una kitabu chake la sivyo Mungu atakabiliana na kuonesha hawa umewapa kanuni ngumu.

29 Au je! Mungu ni Mungu wa Wayahudi tu? Siye Mungu wa Mataifa pia? Naam, ni Mungu wa Mataifa pia;
Warumi 3:29
Tena asema hivi
19 Kwa sababu kama kwa kuasi kwake mtu mmoja watu wengi waliingizwa katika hali ya wenye dhambi, kadhalika kwa kutii kwake mmoja watu wengi wameingizwa katika hali ya wenye haki.
Warumi 5:19
3 Uelewa Yesu KAFARA YA DHAMBI na pia ni KUHANI MKUU
Hapa ndio wengi hupotea uelewa kabisa sio wewe tu ulieandika ulimwengu wa kidini wakiwemo WAKRISTO. Yesu alipokuja hapa duniani alikuka kuwa kafara au Mwanakonddoo wa kuchinjwa kwa ajili ya dhambi.
Kile Mungu alikifundusha Mwenyewe kwa taifa la Israeli ndio namna au mpango wa KUOKOA kila mwanadamu katika sayari hii. Kabla Yesu hajaja kila mdhambi aliingia katika ile hema ya nje namnyama kwa ajili ya dhambi aliyoitenda angeweka mikono yake juu ya mnyama na kuungama dhambi zake kisha angemchinja huyo mnyama na damu yake ingechukuliwa na KUHANI na kuingia nayo patakatifu pa kwanza . Hapa unaona vitu hivi
Mdhambi> Mwanakondoo wa kuchinjwa(damu)> Kuhani

Imeandikwa hivi
2 Naye ataweka mkono wake kichwani mwake huyo aliyemtoa, na kumchinja mlangoni pa hema ya kukutania; na wana wa Haruni, hao makuhani, watainyunyiza damu yake katika madhabahu pande zote.
Mambo ya Walawi 3:2
Lakini mpango huu wa Hema iliyojengwa ni mfano tu qa mbinguni ni nakala ya mambo halisi. Hii maana yake ni kuwa mwanakondoo aliyechinjwa na damu yake kuchukuluwa na Kuhani ni YESU
Kwa mdhambi kuweka mikono yake juu ya mnyamawa kuchinja alikuwa anahamisha adhabu yake ya kifo(maana mshahara wa dhambi ni mauti) kutoka kwake na mnyama yule aluchukua adhabu yake na kuuawa.
29 Siku ya pili yake amwona Yesu anakuja kwake, akasema, Tazama, Mwana-kondoo wa Mungu, aichukuaye dhambi ya ulimwengu!
Yohana 1:29
Mpango wa Wokovu wa Mungu hauishii kwenye damu tu ni HUDUMA YA KUHANI. Hapo kuna huduma 2
1. Kuhani kila siku kuuingiana kunyunyiza damu katika madhabahu na Patakatifu pa Kwanza.
2. KUHANI MKUU kuingia PATAKATIFU PA PATAKATIFU chumba cha 2 mara moja kwa Mwaka. Nijikite hii ya chumba cha pili. Kumbuka swala hapa si vyumbo tu ni HUDUMA ndio maana chumba cha pili sio Makuhani wote waliingia bali Kuhani Mkuu. Chumba cha pili kihusiana na HUKUMU na dhambi kwa ishara Kuiondoka toka Patakatifu na Makao(Kambi) yote ya Israeli na kila ambaye dhambi haikutubiwa alikufa

Haruni peke yake aliyekuwa Kuhani mkuu au Kuhani mkuu aliyechaguliwa aliingia Patakatifu pa patakafu kwa huduma ya Upatanisho na kiisha toka huweka mikono yake juu ya mbuzi aliyehai au mbuzi wa azazeli .
Narudia hii ni HUDUMA ya mwisho wa mpango wa Wokovu dhambi LAZIMA iondolewa na Shetani Pekee yake Mwanzilishi wake ITAWEKWA JUU YAKE naye atatengwa au KUKATILIWA MBALI ili isiwepo kwa wanadamu wala mwanzilishi wake tena.
Yesu ndiye KUHANI MKUU
"
14 Basi, iwapo tunaye kuhani mkuu aliyeingia katika mbingu, Yesu, Mwana wa Mungu, na tuyashike sana maungamo yetu.
Waebrania 4:14
Hapa na biblia yote imemuita Yesu kama KUHANI MKUU, kumbuka nilikiacha kipengele cha kuhani wa kawaida ambaye kila siku alihudumu kwa zamu yake kama Zakaria baba yake Yohana mbatizaji hawa walikuwa hawaingii patakatifu pa patakatifu palipo na Kiti cha rehema.
Wasabato wanapofundisha kuingia PATAKATIFU PA PATAKATIFU hawafundishi vyumba wanafundisha huduma ya Mwisho kwa MPANGO wa WOKOVU kuwa karibu tena si mbali Yesu atatoka katika HUDUMA hiyo kama kuhani, Mpatanishi na Muombezi. Na kiisha toka Anakuja kama Mfalme na Mhukumu wa Ulimwengu wote

Huenda swali la msingi ni kuuliza je hii huduma ya Mwisho baada ya kuwa Kafara ya dhambi hapa duniani na kwenda Mbinguni kama Kuhani Mkuu aliianza lini? Je Yesu alipopaa tu baada ya siku arobaini ya kufufuka kwake, je ni huo mwaka 1844 je ni Mwaka 2000? Biblia inayo majibu.
Nakazia. Yesu ameingia kwa HUDUMA YA MWISHO iliyokuwa ikifanyika mara moja kwa mwaka mwezi wa sqba wa kiyahudi kwa mfano nao walioamini juu ya kafara na kutubu walikuwa wanaamini juu ya Kafara ya Yesu anayekuja. Huduma ya Mwisho inaisha kwa kurudi Bwana, nayo iko karibu sana, biblia inatoaviashiria vya kkujua iko karibu sana, JIANDAE.
IKIWA UANATAKA KIJUA ILIANZA LINI reply comment hii ikiuliza kile unataka uje.
Barikiwa mtoa uzi na wasomaji wote. Sisi sote ni watoto wa Mungu chini ya mpango mmoja wa Wokovu
 
Hiyo llink hana jambo lisilojibika tena haina kitu nimepitia article zake ni hoja nyepesi mfano Maoni ni nini? Ni kitu halisi picha au ? Kuhusu Soari kuwa haikuangamizwa ukishuka tu f 30 ya Mw 19, utajiuliza kwanini aliogopa na kukimbilia mlima?
Halafu wanatumia sometime Wikipedia, scientific facts kuthibitisha mambo ya Mungu. Completely wrong.
Nikpongeze kuona ni watu wa fursa na ushauri wasabato kuishi maisha ya utakatifu
 
Yesu ni Mungu? Kwanini haijui siku ya Mwisho. Ikiwa Mungu anajua mwanzo na mwisho?
 
Hakuna mwisho wa Dunia,acheni kupotoshana,,MUNGU aliumba Dunia kwa ajili ikaliwe na watu angalikuwa na lengo watu waishi mbinguni ,asingaliifanya Dunia,,acheni upotoshaj
 
The 1844 AD date, as the end of the 2,300 years mentioned in the book of Daniel is a wrong date.

The accurate date (of the end of the 2,300 years) is 1798 AD.

And whatever the accurate date is, 'unto 2,300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed', means, after 2,300 days, have passed, the church in the earth shall then be cleansed from the errors of the little horn that polluted the sanctuary of strength (that polluted the church).

The beginning dates of the 70 weeks prophecy (490 years prophecy) and the 2,300 days prophecy (2,300 years prophecy), mentioned in the book of Daniel, are not the same, they are different.

The years, 2,300, 1335, 1,290 and 1,260, all end on 1798 AD. But they all begin on different years.


503 BC + 2300 + 1 (as there is no 0 BC or 0 AD) = 1798 AD

Unto 2,300 years, then shall the sanctuary be cleansed (the church in earth shall be cleansed from the pollutions of the little horn).

The 2,300 days (2,300 years) prophecy (of the book of daniel) begins at 503 BC, this is 16 years after the decree of Darius in 519 BC. This is also 34 years after the decree of Cyrus in 537 BC.

503 BC is also 12 years after the Jews finished building the temple in 515 BC.

503 BC is also 499 years before the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ was born in 4 BC.

The 2,300 years begins in 503 BC and ends in 1798 AD.

In 503 BC, Darius (via his cousin Artaphernes, who was the Persian empire's governor of Ionia) sent 200 ships to attack Naxos. He cooperates with Aristagoras, the Melesian, the governor of Meletus.

In 502 BC, Aristagoras the Melesian, rebels against Darius.

According to Ussher's "The Annals of the World", this is the beginning of the conflict between the Persians and the Greeks, that eventually led to the destruction of the Persian empire.


Daniel's 70 week prophecy (490 year prophecy) starts at 457 BC, with the decree of king Artaxerxes to Ezra. And ends in 34 AD, with the stoning of Stephen.

The 2,300 years end in
1798 AD. After 1798 AD, the church in the earth shall be cleansed from the pollutions of the little horn.

The little horn which polluted the sanctuary of strength, meaning it polluted the church in the earth, and thought to change the times and the laws, and took away the perpetual covenant, and set up the abomination that maketh desolate.

The church in the earth shall be cleansed from the religious errors of the papacy. It shall also be clear to the church in the earth that the seventh day is the legitimate sabbath day, and not the first day of the week.

And that the 10 commandments were not changed even in the new testament era. The seventh day starts from sunset Friday and ends at sunset Saturday. Sunday is not the sabbath day.

Also the papal states were abolished (by the French empire of Napoleon) in 1809 AD, and the temporal power of the pope was abolished in 1809 AD.

433 AD + 30 + 1335 = 1798 AD

463 AD + 1335 = 1798 AD

433 AD, Sixtus III was pope. He supported the decision of the first council of Ephesus (which ended in July 431). The council declared that 'the virgin Mary is the mother of God'.

After 30 years

463 AD, Hilarius was pope, he continued the policy of his successor pope Leo I, of enhancing the primacy of the bishop of Rome within the church.

When Leo I was pope, he claimed to be the bishop of the universal church, that is the bishop of the entire church in the world, the primacy of the bishop of rome within the church is enhanced).

508 AD + 30 years = 538 AD

538 AD + 1260 years = 1798 AD

The 1335 years start at 463 AD and ends in 1798 AD.

1335 may reflect redemption. The redemption money was 1365 shekels (Numbers 3:49-51).

433 AD is 1365 years before 1798 AD.


1365 years are not directly mentioned in the book of Daniel, but they show that there will be redemption after they have ended. 1365 shekels was the redemption money in the book of numbers. 30 + 1335 = 1365. 1335 days (1335 years) are directly mentioned in the book of Daniel.



475/476 AD (the collapse of the Western Roman empire into 10 kingdoms, 10 horns).

33 years later

508 AD (Symmachus was pope, the primacy of the papacy in temporal affairs enhanced, Clovis' baptism, Clovis defeats Alarac).

30 years later

538 AD (Vigilius was pope, begins the 1,260 years of papal supremacy).

1,260 years later

1798 ad (the 1,260 years of papal supremacy end, with the capture of the pope, by the French general Berthier, the papacy receives a deadly wound).


The papal wound starts to heal consistently from 1929, until today.

Thus the 1844 AD date, as the end of the 2,300 years mentioned in the book of Daniel is a wrong date.

The accurate date (of the end of the 2,300 years) may be 1798 AD.

And, 'unto 2,300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed', means, after 2,300 years have passed, the church in the earth shall then be cleansed from the errors of the little horn that polluted the sanctuary of strength (that is, that polluted the church).

It did not mean the end of the world.

It did not mean the beginning of the 'investigative judgment'.

And it did not mean the Lord Jesus Christ moving into the most holy place in heaven.

The Lord Jesus Christ moved into the most holy place in heaven, after his ressurection and ascension, in 31 AD. AND NOT IN 1844 AD.
 

The 1844 AD date, as the end of the 2,300 years mentioned in the book of Daniel is a wrong date.

The accurate date (of the end of the 2,300 years) is 1798 AD.

And whatever the accurate date is, 'unto 2,300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed', means, after 2,300 days, have passed, the church in the earth shall then be cleansed from the errors of the little horn that polluted the sanctuary of strength (that polluted the church).

The beginning dates of the 70 weeks prophecy (490 years prophecy) and the 2,300 days prophecy (2,300 years prophecy), mentioned in the book of Daniel, are not the same, they are different.

The years, 2,300, 1335, 1,290 and 1,260, all end on 1798 AD. But they all begin on different years.


503 BC + 2300 + 1 (as there is no 0 BC or 0 AD) = 1798 AD

Unto 2,300 years, then shall the sanctuary be cleansed (the church in earth shall be cleansed from the pollutions of the little horn).

The 2,300 days (2,300 years) prophecy (of the book of daniel) begins at 503 BC, this is 16 years after the decree of Darius in 519 BC. This is also 34 years after the decree of Cyrus in 537 BC.

503 BC is also 12 years after the Jews finished building the temple in 515 BC.

503 BC is also 499 years before the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ was born in 4 BC.

The 2,300 years begins in 503 BC and ends in 1798 AD.

In 503 BC, Darius (via his cousin Artaphernes, who was the Persian empire's governor of Ionia) sent 200 ships to attack Naxos. He cooperates with Aristagoras, the Melesian, the governor of Meletus.

In 502 BC, Aristagoras the Melesian, rebels against Darius.

According to Ussher's "The Annals of the World", this is the beginning of the conflict between the Persians and the Greeks, that eventually led to the destruction of the Persian empire.


Daniel's 70 week prophecy (490 year prophecy) starts at 457 BC, with the decree of king Artaxerxes to Ezra. And ends in 34 AD, with the stoning of Stephen.

The 2,300 years end in
1798 AD. After 1798 AD, the church in the earth shall be cleansed from the pollutions of the little horn.

The little horn which polluted the sanctuary of strength, meaning it polluted the church in the earth, and thought to change the times and the laws, and took away the perpetual covenant, and set up the abomination that maketh desolate.

The church in the earth shall be cleansed from the religious errors of the papacy. It shall also be clear to the church in the earth that the seventh day is the legitimate sabbath day, and not the first day of the week.

And that the 10 commandments were not changed even in the new testament era. The seventh day starts from sunset Friday and ends at sunset Saturday. Sunday is not the sabbath day.

Also the papal states were abolished (by the French empire of Napoleon) in 1809 AD, and the temporal power of the pope was abolished in 1809 AD.

433 AD + 30 + 1335 = 1798 AD

463 AD + 1335 = 1798 AD

433 AD, Sixtus III was pope. He supported the decision of the first council of Ephesus (which ended in July 431). The council declared that 'the virgin Mary is the mother of God'.

After 30 years

463 AD, Hilarius was pope, he continued the policy of his successor pope Leo I, of enhancing the primacy of the bishop of Rome within the church.

When Leo I was pope, he claimed to be the bishop of the universal church, that is the bishop of the entire church in the world, the primacy of the bishop of rome within the church is enhanced).

508 AD + 30 years = 538 AD

538 AD + 1260 years = 1798 AD

The 1335 years start at 463 AD and ends in 1798 AD.

1335 may reflect redemption. The redemption money was 1365 shekels (Numbers 3:49-51).

433 AD is 1365 years before 1798 AD.


1365 years are not directly mentioned in the book of Daniel, but they show that there will be redemption after they have ended. 1365 shekels was the redemption money in the book of numbers. 30 + 1335 = 1365. 1335 days (1335 years) are directly mentioned in the book of Daniel.



475/476 AD (the collapse of the Western Roman empire into 10 kingdoms, 10 horns).

33 years later

508 AD (Symmachus was pope, the primacy of the papacy in temporal affairs enhanced, Clovis' baptism, Clovis defeats Alarac).

30 years later

538 AD (Vigilius was pope, begins the 1,260 years of papal supremacy).

1,260 years later

1798 ad (the 1,260 years of papal supremacy end, with the capture of the pope, by the French general Berthier, the papacy receives a deadly wound).


The papal wound starts to heal consistently from 1929, until today.

Thus the 1844 AD date, as the end of the 2,300 years mentioned in the book of Daniel is a wrong date.

The accurate date (of the end of the 2,300 years) is 1798 AD.

And, 'unto 2,300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed', means, after 2,300 years have passed, the church in the earth shall then be cleansed from the errors of the little horn that polluted the sanctuary of strength (that is, that polluted the church).

It does not mean the end of the world.

It does not mean the beginning of the 'investigative judgment'.

And it does not mean the Lord Jesus Christ moving into the most holy place in heaven.

The Lord Jesus Christ moved into the most holy place in heaven, after his ressurection and ascension, in 31 AD. AND NOT IN 1844 AD.
 

Karibu katika familia ya wasabato kwan sabato iliumbwa na Mungu mwenyewe wala hakuna muasisi na hii ilifanyika mara baada ya kuumba mbingu na nchi kwa siku sita na siku ya saba BWANA alistarehe akaifanya sabato soma kitabu cha mwanzo kwa marejeo sahihi.
 
nashukuru wewe inaonekana unachukua muda wako kujifunza. wengine tunaburuzwa na misimamo hata hatujifunzi kuona biblia inasemaje
Angalau kanisa la wasabato msimamo wao ni kuwa mafundisho yao ni kutokana na biblia tu ,hivo kama kuna kitu kinafundishwa nje ya biblia hata mumuumini wa kawaida atauliza hiyo imeandikwa wapi. pia kuna challenges za kutafsiri baadhi ya vifungu
kujiona kwamba sasa wamefika mbinguni , hilo nalo ni kosa. kwani biblia inasema atakayevumilia hadi mwisho ndiye atakaye okoka
 
KWAHIYO MKUU tunaruhusiwa kuzini kuua na kuiba? au inakuwaje
 
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