Complete heart transplant; rethink your faith!

Complete heart transplant; rethink your faith!

REALITY said:
embu fikiri kabla ya kuandika Eiyer is more smart than that mangopickle brain of yours

unajua maana ya MUNGU?
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sijui maana ya maneno kwa lugha uliyotumia ila sitaki pia kujua maana zake lakini kama ni mazuri hebu mwambie haya mzazi wako wa kike.
 
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KALYOVATIPI said:
sijui maana ya maneno kwa lugha uliyotumia ila sitaki pia kujua maana zake lakini kama ni mazuri hebu mwambie haya mzazi wako wa kike.
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kwa hiyo kumbe wewe ni mmama? Aisee pole sana mama yetu ndio mambo ya mjadala hayo...
 
Mkuu wa chuo said:
kwa hiyo kumbe wewe ni mmama? Aisee pole sana mama yetu ndio mambo ya mjadala hayo...
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kaka pia kuniita mama sio tusi au kejeli. Namaaanisha uwepo wa mamako sio matusi wala sio tusi kwako kwahiyo usimuite mtu mama ukategemea labda unamdharau au unamtukana.
 
KALYOVATIPI said:
kaka pia kuniita mama sio tusi au kejeli. Namaaanisha uwepo wa mamako sio matusi wala sio tusi kwako kwahiyo usimuite mtu mama ukategemea labda unamdharau au unamtukana.
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hivi unaelewa mantiki iliyopo!? we umemwambia REALITY hivi
KALYOVATIPI said:
sijui maana ya maneno kwa lugha uliyotumia ila sitaki pia kujua maana zake lakini kama ni mazuri hebu mwambie haya mzazi wako wa kike.
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hapo nilipopigia mstari, mi nikajua wewe kama mzazi wa kike umekwazika sana na yale maneno ukajiuliza inamaana haya maneno aliyonipa mimi mzazi wa kike anaweza akamwambia pia mzazi wake wa kike!?

ndio maana nikakupa pole, sasa naona umemind unaona mi nakukejeli kumbe mimi nimekupa pole kutokana na hayo maelezo yako...
 
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Mkuu wa chuo said:
hivi unaelewa mantiki iliyopo!? we umemwambia REALITY hivi

hapo nilipopigia mstari, mi nikajua wewe kama mzazi wa kike umekwazika sana na yale maneno ukajiuliza inamaana haya maneno aliyonipa mimi mzazi wa kike anaweza akamwambia pia mzazi wake wa kike!?

ndio maana nikakupa pole, sasa naona umemind unaona mi nakukejeli kumbe mimi nimekupa pole kutokana na hayo maelezo yako...
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ukumaanisha ulichoandika sasa lakini tuyaache haya jamaa bado ajaleta ushahidi?
 
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KALYOVATIPI said:
unashindwa kucheza kwenye mada kuu unaingiza vitu ambavyo havipo uwezi ukamtolea mtu mfano wa kejeli eti unakuwa kama watu flan wanaoffanya vitu flan mkuu free ideas anataka umpe ushahidi juu ya uwepo wa Mungu unarukaruka unajaza seva tu mwisho nawe unajifanya kumuuliza eti kwa nn unataka kumjua Mungu? point za kushindwa kushuhudia uwepo wa Mungu wako nakujutia kwakuwa pia huna uhakika saana na kile unachokiamini. subhuhanaah allah.
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Kila la kheri na unakoelekea kila ukisali!
 
A type of God who cares about sinn!,a god who care about what i Free ideas do!.Such a god who created us with his love but planing to burn us!.Hii aina gani ya mungu huyu,""Ninachojua mimi,kama kuna mungu basi sio huyo mnaemtambulisha nyie,mungu wa Waislamu,wakristo,ma-budha,Hindu na kadhalika.""
Kama kuna mungu hakuna anayemjua na hakuna anayeweza kumuelezea! Na hawezi kamwe kuwa na sifa hizi mnazompa kila siku hapa.Hawezi kuwa mungu,Huyu mnaekesha kumuelezea humu ambaye sifa zake hazina tofauti na watu alowaumba.

Mungu ambaye ameshindwa kabisa kufanya watu waelewane na wawe kitu kimoja.Mungu ambaye anataka kusifiwa kwa kazi aliyoifanya!.Mungu anaeagiza binadamu wawaadhibu kwa kuwaua wale wasio mkubali na kumuabudu!.

Mungu asiyetaka kujidhihirisha kwa watu wake ili kila mmoja amwamini na kumshuhudia kwa macho yake.Mungu aliyeamua kujidhihirisha kwa watu binafsi huku akitegemea ujumbe ufike mahala pote ulimwenguni tena pasipo njia ya maana ya kufikisha ujumbe huo,bali kutembea kwa miguu umbali mrefu kumtangaza.Aisee hii balaa
 
KALYOVATIPI said:
hebu onesha mchango wako wamaana hapa?
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Take your time to read, this thread didn't start from post no 311. That might help you to at least know what and why some things are said and have been said. You might answer my arguments on post 222 if you like.

A good point made here is "fury has taken over your control" ...where we see violation of decent standards by your posts, afflicting and trying to put faults on others. Your first post is simply a result of irritation (unnecessarily) in this case, constantly spouts inaccuracies, profanity and downright lies followed by insults on your other posts. Was it not for the need to respond to your nonsense on in this serious debate?, I was forced to as always when anyone with childish mind put Jesus on their line of hit back strategy.

By-the-way the topic is "we don't need God we got Docs and surgeons" so to say. Pay attention.
 
Free ideas said:
Kabla hujaniomba mimi ushahidi ni vyema wewe ukatoa ushahidi kwanza kwamba yupo.
Nakupa mfano mdogo,tukiwa tumekaa valandani mi na wewe kisha ukanambia kwamba,Unajua Free ideas hapa tulipo tuko watu watatu!.Mi nikasema sio kwel tupo wawili tu!,Halafu ukaanza kuniomba ushahidi kwamba nithibitishe kama tuko wawili.Mi ntakushangaa!.We unatakiwa uthibitishe kwamba kwel tuko watatu ili nami niamini kwamba tuko watatu tofauti na hapo tupobwawili na hilo liko wazi.
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tatizo lako unamchukulia mungu kama figure ambaye anawekwa kwenye framework,

thibitisha kama MUNGU
Anahesabika maana omnipresent yupo kila mahali

wewe ni wsiwasi unakusumbua kama huamini yupo jua umefumbwa two times,one mentally two intelluctually

hivi kama mi naona plate no, ni yellow,paka anaona nyeupe ile ni rangi gani??
 
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Free ideas said:
Kabla hujaniomba mimi ushahidi ni vyema wewe ukatoa ushahidi kwanza kwamba yupo.
Nakupa mfano mdogo,tukiwa tumekaa valandani mi na wewe kisha ukanambia kwamba,Unajua Free ideas hapa tulipo tuko watu watatu!.Mi nikasema sio kwel tupo wawili tu!,Halafu ukaanza kuniomba ushahidi kwamba nithibitishe kama tuko wawili.Mi ntakushangaa!.We unatakiwa uthibitishe kwamba kwel tuko watatu ili nami niamini kwamba tuko watatu tofauti na hapo tupobwawili na hilo liko wazi.
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tatizo lako unamchukulia MUNGU kama figure ambaye anawekwa kwenye framework,

thibitisha kama MUNGU
Anahesabika maana ni omnipresent yupo kila mahali

wewe ni wasiwasi unakusumbua kama huamini yupo jua umefumbwa two times,one mentally two intelluctually

hivi kama mi naona plate no, ni yellow,paka anaona nyeupe ile ni rangi gani??....

afu unavyoandika unataka uthibitisho utajuaje ndo wenyewe ilhali hujui ni nini??
 
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Free ideas said:
Mungu ni UOGA
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Good start young man. You are on progress.

Here is some verses to reflect what you are starting to understand.

Genesis
22:12 "Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son."

Exodus
1:21 And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families of their own.
14:31 And when the Israelites saw the great power the Lord displayed against the Egyptians, the people feared the Lord and put their trust in him and in Moses his servant.
20:18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance and said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die."
20:20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning."

Leviticus
19:14 "'Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind, but fear your God. I am the Lord.
25:17 Do not take advantage of each other, but fear your God. I am the Lord your God.

Joshua
4:23,24 For the Lord your God dried up the Jordan before you until you had crossed over. The Lord your God did to the Jordan just what he had done to the Red Sea when he dried it up before us until we had crossed over. He did this so that all the peoples of the earth might know that the hand of the Lord is powerful and so that you might always fear the Lord your God."
24:14 "Now fear the Lord and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your forefathers worshiped beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the Lord.

1Samuel
12:14,15 If you fear the Lord and serve and obey him and do not rebel against his commands, and if both you and the king who reigns over you follow the Lord your God--good! But if you do not obey the Lord, and if you rebel against his commands, his hand will be against you, as it was against your fathers.
12:24 But be sure to fear the Lord and serve him faithfully with all your heart; consider what great things he has done for you.

2Samuel
23:3-4 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me: 'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,
23:4 he is like the light of morning at sunrise on a cloudless morning, like the brightness after rain that brings the grass from the earth.'

1Chronicles
16:25-26 For great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord made the heavens.

2Chronicles
17:9,10 They taught throughout Judah, taking with them the Book of the Law of the Lord; they went around to all the towns of Judah and taught the people. The fear of the Lord fell on all the kingdoms of the lands surrounding Judah, so that they did not make war with Jehoshaphat.
20:29 The fear of God came upon all the kingdoms of the countries when they heard how the Lord had fought against the enemies of Israel.

Nehemiah
5:9 So I continued, "What you are doing is not right. Shouldn't you walk in the fear of our God to avoid the reproach of our Gentile enemies?

Job
1:1 In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil.
1:8-9 Then the Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil." "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied.
2:3 Then the Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason."
23:13-15 "But he stands alone, and who can oppose him? He does whatever he pleases. He carries out his decree against me, and many such plans he still has in store. That is why I am terrified before him; when I think of all this, I fear him.

28:28 And he said to man, 'The fear of the Lord--that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding.'"
 
Ishmael said:
Ngoja nikufumbue macho kidogo:

1. Mgonjwa "a" wa Saratani ya ubongo, katibiwa na Doctor "q" akapona Saratani.
2. Mgonjwa "b" wa Saratani ya ubongo, katibiwa na Doctor "q" akafa kwasababu ya Saratani ya ubongo.
3. Kama dawa ndio inaponya Saratani, KWANINI MGONJWA "b" hakupona baada ya kutibiwa na Doctor "q"?
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we unafikili mungu ndo kamponya kama ni hivyo alishindwaje kuwaponya wote, au aliyekufa muda wake ulifika, kuna hithibati yoyote, na aliyepona kwanini atibiwe ndio hapone unafikili asingetibiwa angepona kwa kuwa muda wake wa kufa bado, angalia hapo
 
Njopino said:
we unafikili mungu ndo kamponya kama ni hivyo alishindwaje kuwaponya wote, au aliyekufa muda wake ulifika, kuna hithibati yoyote, na aliyepona kwanini atibiwe ndio hapone unafikili asingetibiwa angepona kwa kuwa muda wake wa kufa bado, angalia hapo
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Pole sana kwa mshtuko ambao umekufanya ushindwe elewe nini nilikuwa nasema.

1. Dawa haiponyi Magonjwa
1(a). Unaenda Hospitali kutibiwa
1(b). Daktari anakutibu kwa kutumia dawa, etc


2. Mungu ndiye anaye ponya Magonjwa.
2(a). Mungu ndie Mponyaji.
3(b). Ukienda Hospitali, Daktari anakutibu halafu Mungu ndie anaponya.


4. Ukimwomba Mungu bila ya kwenda Hospitali kama alivyo elekeza kwenye James 5:15, Mark 16:18, etc
4(a). Mungu atakuponya.
4(b). Ugonjwa utakutoka na utakuwa huru.


5. Hivyo basi kwenda Hospital is okay and Biblical kwasabau Mungu ndie anagawa Elimu zote na yeye ndie Mponyaji.
5(a) Elimu kaanzisha Mungu
5(b) Usiiache ELIMU

MUNGU NDIE ANAYE PONYA MAGONJWA
 
1. Dawa haiponyi Magonjwa
1(a). Unaenda Hospitali kutibiwa
1(b). Daktari anakutibu kwa kutumia dawa, etc


2. Mungu ndiye anaye ponya Magonjwa.
2(a). Mungu ndie Mponyaji.
3(b). Ukienda Hospitali, Daktari anakutibu halafu Mungu ndie anaponya.


4. Ukimwomba Mungu bila ya kwenda Hospitali kama alivyo elekeza kwenye James 5:15, Mark 16:18, etc
4(a). Mungu atakuponya.
4(b). Ugonjwa utakutoka na utakuwa huru.


5. Hivyo basi kwenda Hospital is okay and Biblical kwasabau Mungu ndie anagawa Elimu zote na yeye ndie Mponyaji.
5(a) Elimu kaanzisha Mungu
5(b) Usiiache ELIMU

MUNGU NDIE ANAYE PONYA MAGONJWA[/QUOTE]

Nimekuelewa sana mkuu ila ungepitia post zaidi ungenielewa nilichokusudia, daktari anatibu na mungu anaponya~ kama wagonjwa wote walitibiwa, mmoja akaponywa mwengine akafa, whats wrong on that @ Mungu alishindwa kuponya baada ya daktari kutibu
@ Mungu alishindwa kuponya baada ya daktari kushindwa kutibu,
 
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