Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Standard Gauge Railway - Why the arithmetic does not add up

Cosmas Ronno
Tue 18th Apr 2017 02:23:22pm

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The Standard Gauge Railway
There is an air of excitement and expectation at the prospect of a new era of transportation with the launch of the Mombasa-Nairobi Standard Gauge Railway.

Like every foreign initiated mega-project imposed on an African nation the SGR has been shrouded in mystery and intrigue right from the start. Matters have not been helped by our collective quintessential ignorance and amnesia in as much as we all thought the SGR was going to be a high-speed rail that would allow a train to zip from Nairobi to Mombasa at the never-heard-of-before speeds of up to 400 km/h.

Well, the government has officially denied ever having promised such a service thereby deflating the euphoria of many. Instead the SGR will (at least initially) be powered by diesel-driven Class DF8B locomotives which have the same specifications as its predecessors, the French SNCF Class BB 67400 through to Class BB 75000 that operate on the non-high speed sector of the French rail network (called Intercités). These locomotives have top speeds of 140 km/h (BB 67400) while DF8B and BB75000 operate at a more moderate 120 km/h but with more horsepower.

Kenya Railways and other agencies that speak ebulliently for the government tell us that travel times for Mombasa to Nairobi will be drastically reduced. But is this really true? Let’s look at the facts. The high speed SNCF TGV train from Paris’ Gare de Lyon station takes on average between 5h 54min and 6h 06min to Toulouse’s Matabiau station a distance of 677 km. There are two main stops on this route (Limoges and Montauban) which together with several minor ones can be skipped by non-stop trains. Nevertheless one has to change trains at least once on this high speed line.

However the slower Class BB67400 diesel locomotive will most likely stop at every station on the route and may take up to 11 hours to complete the Paris-Toulouse link. Most such services are overnight sleeper trains. Now the recent dry run orchestrated by the contractor (China Roads and Rail) allegedly took 4 hours (actually 6 hours as the train stopped at Mtito Andei for 2 hours).

This is of course pure PR as it makes no technical sense. To start with, the train was not pulling a full load and secondly there was no complication of other trains using the same line. And don't forget the train was going downhill doing a hell for leather sprint with no danger of being sued for any possible accidents. When the actual live event comes on-stream things are going to be much more complicated with signalling, sidings, uphill-downhill changes in speed, braking, and stoppages adding at least another three hours to the journey. So folks, forget the 4-hours-to Mombasa myth, and start preparing for the more realistic 7 to 8 hours instead.

A longer than expected travel time is not the only reality of the passenger SGR. The fare to Mombasa will present the real shocker! As advertised by the contractor and promoters the service will consist of 1st and 2nd Class coaches only. The former will be patronised by corporate clients, rich tourists, the political class (who will pass the fares to the taxpayer anyway) and upper income earners. The latter will accommodate economy class tourists and upper middle income Kenyans. The working class and the unemployed will have to rely on the ‘Old Faithful’ namely, buses, matatus and private cars. Maybe this should be a signal to the financially struggling Kenya Railways to revive the 115 year old ‘Lunatic Express’ a.k.a. the Meter Gauge British-Built Kenya-Uganda Railways and not be tempted by some overenthusiastic government Think Tank into selling the steel rails as scrap to some Indian steel manufacturing mogul!

With the exploding population of the political class (thousands of MCAs and County Government minions heading for sun and sand filled pleasure weekends at Nyali, Diani and Watamu beaches) the passenger side of SGR will definitely make handsome profits. The haulage side of business is, however, unlikely to even takeoff.

Let us face it; the existing rail network is completely moribund due to lack of business. Yes it is slow and hence no prospective passenger will give it a second thought. But what about cargo? How come the only wagons I see at Eldoret all belong to Uganda Railways? Some commentators argue that rail cargo is too slow. Really? I have talked to some transit trailer drivers who tell me it can take up 24 hours to drive from Nairobi to Eldoret. The Kampala train moves from Nairobi to Malaba in about 15 hours. Why are hauliers not placing their cargo on the ‘faster’ trains? The answer is that cartels representing privateers have over the years invested on trailers at the expense of the government owned rail system. Most of the privateers were at one time very high ranking politicians and civil servants. These transport businesses have not only expanded exponentially but have also passed onto sons and daughters who see absolutely no reason to divest from trucks in favour of some so called SGR rail.

I regard myself a self appointed futurist and can prophesy (for free) that unless a real good incentive for transfer of cargo business to the SGR is provided by government, the cargo side of the new rail system is dead before it even starts. The only option I see is for the transport tycoons to be allowed to buy into the SGR and become part-owners with government. Of course this will draw fire from ordinary citizens and the usual activists, but if legislation is put in place to ease the process then the SGR might start making sense and, I might add, some money.

Standard Gauge Railway - Why the arithmetic does not add up
 
East Africa: Tanzania Starts Construction of Railway Line Link to Uganda
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Photo: Daily Monitor
Map of the Tanzania's rail line.
By Frederic Musisi
Kampala — Tanzania has started building the 300km Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) from the Indian Ocean port of Dar es Salaam to Morogoro, which line is expected to be extended to Port Mwanza on Lake Victoria to link Uganda.

This development will put the spotlight on plans which should have seen Uganda either renovating the run-down Port Bell in Luzira or starting work on the proposed Greenfield Bukasa Port in Kirinya, Wakiso District.


The Bukasa option has been estimated to cost Shs486 billion ($180 million) and if linked with the railway line from Tanzania, would become a part of both the Southern and Central transport corridors, respectively.

Construction of the multi-billion railway line was launched on Wednesday by Tanzanian president John Pombe Magufuli. In attendance, on behalf of Uganda, was the Charge d'Affaires at Uganda's High Commission, Mr Oscar Edule, who is currently holding forte, pending new High Commissioner Richard Kabonero's assuming office.

"Our main focus is to improve the infrastructure sector, something which will in turn improve other sectors," Mr Magufuli remarked at the ceremony held at Pugu Railway Station in Dar-es-Salaam.

The electric railway has been designed to support a maximum speed of 160km/h for passenger trains and 120km/h for freight. It is expected to be complete within 30 months.




Dar es Salaam is Tanzania's principal port with a rated capacity of 4.1 million down weight tonnage (dwt) dry cargo and six million dwt bulk liquid cargo.



Uganda is still struggling with similar ambitions, and is locked in talks to convince China's Exim Bank to release $2.3 billion (Shs8 trillion) for construction of a 273km SGR line running from Malaba to Kampala. The tender for construction was awarded to China Harbour Engineering Corporation (CHEC) in 2014. Works were expected to last 42 months.

During his visit to Tanzania in February, President Museveni was told by Tanzanian authorities of their plans to construct the SGR, a revelation which technocrats in Uganda's ministries of Finance and Works interpreted as an attempt by Tanzania to sway him as happened in the case of $3.4 billion crude export pipeline project.

Tanzania is constructing its SGR at a much lower cost at $5 million (Shs17b) per kilometre compared to Uganda's $8.4 million (about Shs30 billion) per km.


Beijing, which has for months been very guarded on financing the railway from Nairobi to Kampala and has been shuttling back and forth with economic calculations, boxed Uganda and Kenya into a tight corner, forcing them to agree, guarantee and ensure timely construction of the connecting routes for the railway to run seamlessly from Mombasa to Kampala.

On the Kenyan side--the line (120km) running from Nairobi to Naivasha in Kenya is expected to cost$1.7 billion (Shs6 trillion), from Naivasha to Kisumu port (266km), the cost estimate stands at $3.6 bilion (Shs13 trillion), while the 107km line connecting to Malaba on the Uganda-Kenya border will cost $1.7 billion (Shs6 trillion).

After completion of the Malaba-Kampala line (the eastern route), Uganda had planned to embark on the western route from Kampala to Ntungamo near the border with Rwanda, and then on to the northern route from Tororo to Packwach near the border with South Sudan.

The entire SGR project in Uganda is expected to cost $12.8 billion (Shs46 trillion) making it the most expensive infrastructure project in Uganda's history
hahah,man u are really funny.yaani 180 km of Sgr which you haven't built is giving u orgasm.
 
hahah,man u are really funny.yaani 180 km of Sgr which you haven't built is giving u orgasm.
the funny thing is in comparison to that 470 km of Kenya's, twice the distance of that true electrified 300km of Dar-Morogoro track costs less! As a matter of fact Kenya's museum track cost over three times the price of Tanzania's and yet unelectrified and a Chinese loan!
 
the funny thing is less than twice of true 300km of Dar-Morogoro track costs over three times the price in Kenya and yet unelectrified and a Chinese loan!

Quality, we are satisfied, so you don't worry! Then you will learn economics on loans later!
 
the funny thing is less than twice of true 300km of Dar-Morogoro track costs over three times the price in Kenya and yet unelectrified and a Chinese loan!
The cost of Dar is hardly even twice per km than Kenya's
Anyway, you spent your own money on the first phase of SGR... Good for you! We took a loan to build it, then we spent our money on Lamu port, by the time you guys finish your SGR we would hallalready be using ours and we will have Lapsset port, while your bagamoyo project would still be a piece of paper used to wrap meat at the butchers

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kwani watu hawana magari huko? Na kama Nyerere, Kikwete, Mkapa, Kilombero n at all yana pedestrian sections, where do get that largest in East news central Africa?
 
The cost of Dar is hardly even twice per km than Kenya's
Anyway, you spent your own money on the first phase of SGR... Good for you! We took a loan to build it, then we spent our money on Lamu port, by the time you guys finish your SGR we would hallalready be using ours and we will have Lapsset port, while your bagamoyo project would still be a piece of paper used to wrap meat at the butchers

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Lamu port inajengwa haraka-haraka not for economic purpose, is to keep hold sehemu ya bahari ambayo Wasomali wanaitaka. Kenya wanted to build a case ya kusema it will serve Ethiopians, but the Ethiopians wamekimbilia Djibouti na sasa Tanzanian.
 
Lamu port inajengwa haraka-haraka not for economic purpose, is to keep hold sehemu ya bahari ambayo Wasomali wanaitaka. Kenya wanted to build a case ya kusema it will serve Ethiopians, but the Ethiopians wamekimbilia Djibouti na sasa Tanzanian.
Hee! eti haraka haraka not for economic purpose.... You've just made that one up din't you? The lamu port , pale ilipo tayari imechelewa, ifaa kuanzishwa 2013-2014.....

ha, mazee nyi watu, mkishika kitu hamuachilii, eti na sasa tanzanian.... I will advice you, enda ukatafute development blue print ya ethiopia, alafu ndo ujifanye unajua mengi kuhusu mipango yao... Kama bado northern Tanzania inachukua baadhi ya mizigo yao kutoka bandari ya Mombasa, unafikiri mtashinda Kenya ambayo iko karibu zaidi kwa ku supply mizigo to ethiopia????

Anyway, since the isiolo-Moyale road completion, malori kutoka bandari ya mombasa yameongezeka kusafirisha mizigo to southern ethiopia ambako wako na plantations na factories..pia kutoka ethiopia, malori yanayoleta pusle yameanza kuja Kenya...

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Upande wa Ethiopia....... Angalia malori kwa mlolongo hapo mengine yanaleta mizigo, mengine yanarudi Kenya

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Upande wa Kenya---- Malori na macontena kutoka Mombasa, mengine kutoka Nairobi yanapeleka mizigo Kusini mwa Ethiopia ambako bado hawaja jenga reli.... hizi ni picha za 2017!
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One stop Border post yenyewe imemalizwa tu hivi majuzi Upande wa kenya
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Kumbua Lamu iko karibu zaidi na Ethiopia kushinda hata Mombasa
 

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Lamu port inajengwa haraka-haraka not for economic purpose, is to keep hold sehemu ya bahari ambayo Wasomali wanaitaka. Kenya wanted to build a case ya kusema it will serve Ethiopians, but the Ethiopians wamekimbilia Djibouti na sasa Tanzanian.

Hiyo ni mambo ya Tanzania, tukijenga Thika road wanakimbia kujenga Nyerere bridge,tukijenga SGR wanataka SGR,

My Friend Kenya has Vision 2030, and everything is planned for. The LAPPSET is part of Vision 2030, SGR is part of Vision 2030, generation of power including the nuclear power station is under the vision 2030, Konza is vision 2030

Just like how unplanned your city is, just as chaotic as your city is, that is how your national planning is, you do because others are doing, you run to Ethiopia and Uganda with fitna, thinking Kenya is developing looking at the neighbors.

My friend, Kenya is a planning country not like our neighbor to the south, you!!

Everything in line with guidelines

Pillars

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kwani watu hawana magari huko? Na kama Nyerere, Kikwete, Mkapa, Kilombero n at all yana pedestrian sections, where do get that largest in East news central Africa?
Ulitaka uone gari wapi na hiyo ni station inajengwa
 
Hee! eti haraka haraka not for economic purpose.... You've just made that one up din't you? The lamu port , pale ilipo tayari imechelewa, ifaa kuanzishwa 2013-2014.....

ha, mazee nyi watu, mkishika kitu hamuachilii, eti na sasa tanzanian.... I will advice you, enda ukatafute development blue print ya ethiopia, alafu ndo ujifanye unajua mengi kuhusu mipango yao... Kama bado northern Tanzania inachukua baadhi ya mizigo yao kutoka bandari ya Mombasa, unafikiri mtashinda Kenya ambayo iko karibu zaidi kwa ku supply mizigo to ethiopia????

Anyway, since the isiolo-Moyale road completion, malori kutoka bandari ya mombasa yameongezeka kusafirisha mizigo to southern ethiopia ambako wako na plantations na factories..pia kutoka ethiopia, malori yanayoleta pusle yameanza kuja Kenya...

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Upande wa Ethiopia....... Angalia malori kwa mlolongo hapo mengine yanaleta mizigo, mengine yanarudi Kenya

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Upande wa Kenya---- Malori na macontena kutoka Mombasa, mengine kutoka Nairobi yanapeleka mizigo Kusini mwa Ethiopia ambako bado hawaja jenga reli.... hizi ni picha za 2017!
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Kumbua Lamu iko karibu zaidi na Ethiopia kushinda hata Mombasa
Sasa hili Pupple Povu la nini wakati tunakuambia ukweli. Mwenye hekima anasikiliaza kwanza kabla ya kukurupuka. You forgot the mention about Ethiopia invading Kenya to reclaim her own territory which is in the hands of Kenya thanks to Mkoloni. You can build your port, setup border post, serve them champagne. But Ethiopia will be the one to choose who serves there interest well. At the moment, Tanzanian and Djibouti are standing and ready to serve.
 
Sasa hili Pupple Povu la nini wakati tunakuambia ukweli. Mwenye hekima anasikiliaza kwanza kabla ya kukurupuka. You forgot the mention about Ethiopia invading Kenya to reclaim her own territory which is in the hands of Kenya thanks to Mkoloni. You can build your port, setup border post, serve them champagne. But Ethiopia will be the one to choose who serves there interest well. At the moment, Tanzanian and Djibouti are standing and ready to serve.
Eer, Ethiopia abandoned its claim of any disputed territory with Kenya long time ago, the contendion of Ilemi triangle on the most north-west part of Kenya is between Kenya and S.Sudan.....
At the moment, Djibouti serves most of Ethiopian cargo with Kenya serving the rest through Mombasa.... Uganda too exports some products to Ethiopia through Kenya.... While Tanzania has been duped to give part of its port for ethiopian owned ship to conduct transnational business for some constant annual fee

Oh and BTW, that border post is part of a jointly funded plan to turn the ethiopian and kenyan side of the border into an industrial zone in order to end drought born conflict between pastoralist... Both kenya and Ethiopia will contribute about $200million to set up jointly run factories at the border

Here are the two leaders in moyale launching the program...

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Hiyo ni mambo ya Tanzania, tukijenga Thika road wanakimbia kujenga Nyerere bridge,tukijenga SGR wanataka SGR,

My Friend Kenya has Vision 2030, and everything is planned for. The LAPPSET is part of Vision 2030, SGR is part of Vision 2030, generation of power including the nuclear power station is under the vision 2030, Konza is vision 2030

Just like how unplanned your city is, just as chaotic as your city is, that is how your national planning is, you do because others are doing, you run to Ethiopia and Uganda with fitna, thinking Kenya is developing looking at the neighbors.

My friend, Kenya is a planning country not like our neighbor to the south, you!!

Everything in line with guidelines

Pillars

new-engineering-opportunities-in-kenya-in-line-with-vision-2030-1-638.jpg
Dream za matope, the day utaweza kupunguza current account deficit to the meaningful level, hapo ndio utaongea kuhusu vision 2030. At the moment you've to borrow to pay wages, borrow to service your debts, your borrowing to pay for your expensive luxury goods which Kenyan's have grown huge appetite.

What lazy way of thinking that Tanzania is waiting to see what Kenya is doing and then copy the idea. Kumbuka, Tanzania is a country with huge natural resources, huge population, huge land, huge land border and huge sea border, our priorities won't be the same to Kenya. If we are thinking developing our diamond industry or Tanzanite or gold nickel, what will Kenya be thinking about. Or if we chooses to divided land according to our population what will Kenya be doing. Our tourism, gas, uranium, iron ore, electrifying trains etc etc. ....will all those things been copied from Kenya ????? Think again, you can do better that that cheap shot.
 
Dream za matope, the day utaweza kupunguza current account deficit to the meaningful level, hapo ndio utaongea kuhusu vision 2030. At the moment you've to borrow to pay wages, borrow to service your debts, your borrowing to pay for your expensive luxury goods which Kenyan's have grown huge appetite.

What lazy way of thinking that Tanzania is waiting to see what Kenya is doing and then copy the idea. Kumbuka, Tanzania is a country with huge natural resources, huge population, huge land, huge land border and huge sea border, our priorities won't be the same to Kenya. If we are thinking developing our diamond industry or Tanzanite or gold nickel, what will Kenya be thinking about. Or if we chooses to divided land according to our population what will Kenya be doing. Our tourism, gas, uranium, iron ore, electrifying trains etc etc. ....will all those things been copied from Kenya ????? Think again, you can do better that that cheap shot.
What has kept you from thinking since independence? High population, land, resources, coastline, but GDP still below Kenya, Still in LDC and struggling to build the first flyover in a crowded unplanned city!! What a pity!!!
 
What has kept you from thinking since independence? High population, land, resources, coastline, but GDP still below Kenya, Still in LDC and struggling to build the first flyover in a crowded unplanned city!! What a pity!!!
sema kulala!
 
What has kept you from thinking since independence? High population, land, resources, coastline, but GDP still below Kenya, Still in LDC and struggling to build the first flyover in a crowded unplanned city!! What a pity!!!
Its nice to school a youngsters once in awhile, let me tell you ....Tanzania had a priority to build a nation while Kenya wanted to build a country (mash up all the tribes to come up with a country). We didn't want to misuse our resource without knowing that it will benefit each and everyone of us. Now is the time, we have a nation, we have a common language, we are less tribal, fighting corruption like never before. On the other hand, Kenya which started its journey high gear soon after independence, has little to show comparing to South Korea or Singapore or even little Hongkong. In fact, Kenya is building SGR today, the heath care system is as same as the one in Tanzania or Uganda, corruption hata hutaki tuanza kuiongea.
 
Its nice to school a youngsters once in awhile, let me tell you ....Tanzania had a priority to build a nation while Kenya wanted to build a country (mash up all the tribes to come up with a country). We didn't want to misuse our resource without knowing that it will benefit each and everyone of us. Now is the time, we have a nation, we have a common language, we are less tribal, fighting corruption like never before. On the other hand, Kenya which started its journey high gear soon after independence, has little to show comparing to South Korea or Singapore or even little Hongkong. In fact, Kenya is building SGR today, the heath care system is as same as the one in Tanzania or Uganda, corruption hata hutaki tuanza kuiongea.
wacha mbegu. vuta bhangi. while at it, jua kwamba tribalism sio kitu ya kutenganisha waKenya... otherwise Moi ruled this country for 24yrs na hakukuwa na ukabila.
Tanzanians Know More About Kenya while the vice versa is False endeleeni na Ujamaa
 
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