MaxShimba
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Backward eveolution
Allah is supporting Charles Darwin in a diabolic allahic reverse evolution.
5:60 Then say: "Should I inform you [People of the Book] of those, who will have even worse recompense from Allah than the transgressors? They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under His wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine; who worshipped taghut [the devil or idols]; those are the people who are in a far worse plight and who have turned farthest away from the Right Way." (Maududi)
Since Allah is full of love, he has decided to change/turned the Jews into apes and swine for generally disbelieving in Allahs revelations. That is an islamic evolution. Going backward.
Ni muhimu kutofautisha imani(creation) na sayansi(evolution).
Watu wa Israel walijikuta wapo utumwani Misri, Musa aliwaambia kwamba wao ni taifa teule hivyo katika kuwaaminisha kwamba wao ni taifa teule kwa kiasi kikubwa 'alitunga' sehemu kubwa ya vitabu vya 'pentateuch' (mwanzo,kutoka,walawi,hesabu,kumbukumbu ya torah) vinavyoonesha historia yao kabla ya utumwa wa misri. Kwa mfano stori ya creation inatuonesha kwamba sisi hatuko hapa duniani by accident, bali ni kwa mpango wa Mungu. Kwa hiyo wale waIsrael wa muda ule hapakuwa na haja ya kuwa na stori kuonesha uumbaji wa watu kutoka races mbalimbali na wao mfano; waafrika wabantu, waaborigini, waamerindia na watu wa race nyinginezo. Kwa hiyo mazingira ya muda ule yaliruhusu watu kuamini hivyo.
Kwa mazingira ya sasa hivi mtu kuamini kwamba dunia imeanza miaka 6000 iliyopita ni kazi. Kuamini dunia imeanza miaka 6000 ni kwamba kuamini kwamba; hydrocarbons zimetengenezwa ndani ya muda huo, dinasoria wameishi miaka hiyo, zinjathropus ameishi katika miaka hiyo, carbon-14 test ni uwongo, uranium haikutengenzwa miaka bilioni 2-3 iliyopita bali ndani ya miaka 6000, nadharia nyingi za fizikia kuhusiana na ulimwengu ni za uwongo kwa mfano nadharia ya ulimwengu kutanuka kutoka katikati n.k.
Katika historia Galileo aliingia katika matatizo na Papa (Urban viii) kwa sababu alisema dunia sio centre ya mfumo wa jua bali dunia inalizunguka jua. Lakini leo hii hamna kiongozi wa dini anaweza akasimama akasema dunia ndiyo centre ya mfumo wa jua au dunia iko flat na sio duara kwa sababu maendeleo katika sayansi yamepingana na biblia
Na huko tunakoelekea nadharia ya creation itaachwa kushabikiwa na viongozi wa dini kwani hata sasa ni aghalabu kusikia wakiizungumzia.
historia..inasema Binaadam wanatokana na watu wawili Adam Na Hawa....waliishi miaka mingi iliyopita....na ushahidi wa mazingira upo ya kuwapo kwao duniani....mfano sehemu walizoshukia na walipo kutania baada ya kushushwa.
lakini historia inasema hawa hawakua mayahudi...bali walikua ni Wafrika...yaani weusi maji yakunde.... tusidanganywe na zile sinema kuonesha Adam alikua mzungu ama myahudi....ushahidi mpaka sasa unaonesha binaadamu wa mwanzo aliishi Tanzania..hakuna ushahidi mwengine mpaka sasa
lakini jee haya makabila tofauti..yaani machina, wafrica, wazungu , waarabu , wahindi, aboriginies, na wengineo walikujaje wakati baba zao na mama zao ni kutoka tumbo moja? na mbali ya hilo....kuna zaidi ya lugha alfu moja (1000).
jee hizi zilikujaje? wakati sote tunatoka kwa Adam Na hAWA?
sababu nyingi zimetajwa nyingi ni kuhama hama kwa watu kutoka makaazi yao asili kutawanyika duniani ambako walikutana na matatizo ya hali ya hewa , chakula na ukosefu wa aina fulani za madini na vitamins ikasababisha watu kubadilika kuwa katika makabila tofauti ....ingawa hii kidogo haina mshiko kwani unaweza kubadilika rangi ..lakin nywele na macho yetu vipi yamekuwa tofauti ? macho ya kichina , green eyes na meusi !!!
ukweli hili ni suala gumu ambalo vitabu vya dini halikuweka sawa..labda kwa sababu halikutokea kuulizwa wakati huo na kupatiwa jawabu kutoka wahay au ufunuo
lakini mie uchunguzi wangu wa karibu na utafiti kidogo ni kuwa ukweli upo Juu ya ADAM NA HAWA na mtakumbuka baada ya ile dhambi walofanya kutokana na ushawishi wa ibilisi...walishushwa duniani kukaa humu na kuzaana kwa muda maalum ambao Muumba pekee ndie amejua makadirio yake
ADAM NA HAWA walishushwa pamoja na ibilisi ambaye ni malaika muasi kuja duniani...na huyu alichukua ahadi .....kuwapoteza vizazi vyao.....na pia inaaminika MUNGU pia ameumba Majini kama viumbe wengine
yaani kuna Malaika . Binaadamu na Majini..sasa kuna ushahidi wa binadamu kuoa au kuolewa na majini...na inasemekana wakati waa Nabii Suleiman alifuga majini ..na majini yale yalijenga mji wake kwani walimuogopa sana....alipokufa...hivyo utaona kuna uhusiano wa karibu kati ya majini na binaadam
kutokana na uingiliano huu majini yalingiliana na binadamu ndio maana kukapatikana kizazi kipya tofauti duniani races nyingi zimechanganya na majini....na majini wapo makabila tofauti na wanaongea lugha tofauti.....na wao ndo chanzo cha makabila tofauti...na kwa kiasi kikubwa wazungu wana genes kubwa zaidi ya majini ndio maana wapo watundu sana , wanapenda kumwaga damu sana na ni watafutaji sana...na wapiganaji sana.....na wavumbuzi ....akili zao ni kutokana na genes nyingi za kijini
Nimeupenda huu uchambuzi mkuu..
Unaleta tija na kukaribia kutoa utata kidogo! Na nimependa zaidi jinsi ulivyoelezea MUSSA alivyotunga stori kuhusu hao waisrael!!
Lakini kama stori imetungwa, ukweli upo wapi??
Ni muhimu kutofautisha imani(creation) na sayansi(evolution).
Watu wa Israel walijikuta wapo utumwani Misri, Musa aliwaambia kwamba wao ni taifa teule hivyo katika kuwaaminisha kwamba wao ni taifa teule kwa kiasi kikubwa 'alitunga' sehemu kubwa ya vitabu vya 'pentateuch' (mwanzo,kutoka,walawi,hesabu,kumbukumbu ya torah) vinavyoonesha historia yao kabla ya utumwa wa misri. Kwa mfano stori ya creation inatuonesha kwamba sisi hatuko hapa duniani by accident, bali ni kwa mpango wa Mungu. Kwa hiyo wale waIsrael wa muda ule hapakuwa na haja ya kuwa na stori kuonesha uumbaji wa watu kutoka races mbalimbali na wao mfano; waafrika wabantu, waaborigini, waamerindia na watu wa race nyinginezo. Kwa hiyo mazingira ya muda ule yaliruhusu watu kuamini hivyo.
Kwa mazingira ya sasa hivi mtu kuamini kwamba dunia imeanza miaka 6000 iliyopita ni kazi. Kuamini dunia imeanza miaka 6000 ni kwamba kuamini kwamba; hydrocarbons zimetengenezwa ndani ya muda huo, dinasoria wameishi miaka hiyo, zinjathropus ameishi katika miaka hiyo, carbon-14 test ni uwongo, uranium haikutengenzwa miaka bilioni 2-3 iliyopita bali ndani ya miaka 6000, nadharia nyingi za fizikia kuhusiana na ulimwengu ni za uwongo kwa mfano nadharia ya ulimwengu kutanuka kutoka katikati n.k.
Katika historia Galileo aliingia katika matatizo na Papa (Urban viii) kwa sababu alisema dunia sio centre ya mfumo wa jua bali dunia inalizunguka jua. Lakini leo hii hamna kiongozi wa dini anaweza akasimama akasema dunia ndiyo centre ya mfumo wa jua au dunia iko flat na sio duara kwa sababu maendeleo katika sayansi yamepingana na biblia
Na huko tunakoelekea nadharia ya creation itaachwa kushabikiwa na viongozi wa dini kwani hata sasa ni aghalabu kusikia wakiizungumzia.
Aghalabu-maranyingi.nadra-mara chache!
Lakini uandishi wa biblia tukumbuke umeegemea sana kwa taifa la israel. Ukisoma mwanza hadi mwisho na hadi hata yesu alivyokuja na jinsi ya utawala wa warumi baadae. Lakini kama nilivyosema mwanzo.. Uumbaji upo kwa taifa moja la israel tu nao ndo wanasadiki palikuwa hakuna kitu juu ya chini bali giza juu ya vilindi vya maji.. Kwa lugha nyepesi ni kwamba hapakuwa na israel kabla.. Na creation ya israel ikaanzia hapo na biblia ikaanzia hapo. Swali la msingi ni... Hii tofauti ya 'races' hapa duniani inatokea wapi.. Where exactly does deep dim skinned people,the yellow (asians) the red and so forth come from???
mayahudi/wayahudi ndio walioanzisha fasihi ya kiyahudi (jewish literature), je watu wa rangi zingine hawana dini na miungu yao?
Thread hii haijakanusha uwepo wa hilo jina jipya la kutumaini .. Hii thread inaafikiana na yote yaelezwayo katka biblia ila tu nikujua tu uumbaji na evolution zote zilikuwepo.. Kwa mfano naamini pale kitabu cha mwanzo kinaposema 'natumfanye mtu kwa mfano wetu.. ' Hapa moja kwa moja naamini kwamba si kutengeneza au kuumba mtu kama mungu la hasha, bali ni kutengeneza au kumuumba mtu asiye na dhambi ili mataifa mengine yawezekuishi na kufata mfano wa taifa jipya
"... and lets create a man on our image, so he can stand for and monitor all the things we have made..." its the most thrilling statement in the bible showing about the completion of CREATION on what the bible and other religious book call, the creation of the earth. indeed it is,in one way or the other very convincing that the first man ever on the earth was created and lived in the Eden Garden which is believed to be somewhere in the middle east.
As one continues to enjoy and reading this creation story in the bible, we see how that small population of human race began to grow big. As the Adam and his wife Eve were blessed to have sons and daughter (though in their culture girls were less considered unless there was a significant role they do play). the most amazing thing in the story is when the woman was deceived by the snake, and the two sinned by disobeying the God and punishment was death to all of them without forgetting how man would live his life before he dies, and a woman pains in giving birth and so forth.
Apart from that the act of the older brother to kill his young brother brings something new to the world of creation, the death.. Adam witness the meaning of death, what happens when some dies and as a punishment God sent the older brother away from the small community but he MARKED the brother on his fore head so as PEOPLE from where he will be fled SHOULD NOT KILL HIM. this is the most interesting yet confusing part in the whole creation story as told by bible and other religious book.
I might be having low profiling about the facts of creation of the earth and the human race on the earth, if at all the creation was the first to all human race and the bible from the very beginning tells us how Adam and his family lived with exclusion of other societies. then here here were conclusions
- why should the older brother, as we are told in the bible, asked God to protect him so as people should not kill him as he was chased of the family?
- I do believe in CREATION and there was a creation on human but the creation didn't base on the entire human races on the earth surface, However the only human race created on the earth was the Israelite. and from the Israelite is where other human races should live and follow the example to.
- THE STORY OF EVOLUTION of earth still holds its truth as the world just appeared due to the explosion of hydrogen clouds though the theory does not answer at all if people do evolve and developed from the apes why it takes long for the now apes to turn into humans
- on the joint above, (2) it might be that the human race's ancestors were and are of differnt species as from the apes and that species will no longer be existed as it has evolved
- the story of creation and the evolution theory are sometimes intersect somehow although depends on how one approaches it.
- The whole story of CREATION based and reflects on culture of the jews and israelites ONLY because if otherwise, the creation story fails to explain as where does other human races like africans, indians , red indians and the far east Asians as chines and Japanese come from.
Nachoelewa Israel imekuja kuteuliwa baadaye sana baada ya gharika kama baraka za baba yao Ibrahimu//, isaka na Jacob (isarel)
kwa Imani aliyoonyesha ya kumtii mungu kipindi kile cha Sodoma na Ghomora wakati ambao mataifa walifanya maasi na kutambika kwa kuua watoto wao. pAZIA La hekalulikapasuka ndipo mataifa mlipopata kuwa na kibali sawa na waliomkataa YESU mpakaleo israel.;
Allah is supporting Charles Darwin in a diabolic allahic reverse evolution.
5:60 Then say: "Should I inform you [People of the Book] of those, who will have even worse recompense from Allah than the transgressors? They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under His wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine; who worshipped taghut [the devil or idols]; those are the people who are in a far worse plight and who have turned farthest away from the Right Way." (Maududi)
Since Allah is full of love, he has decided to change/turned the Jews into apes and swine for generally disbelieving in Allahs revelations. That is an islamic evolution. Going backward.
Bogus replyTHE VERY PEOPLE WHO WAS CURSED BY ALLAH IS LIKE THESE ONES! WHO KILL AND PUNISHED INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR NO LEGITIMATE REASONS! !
On the Evil of Biblical Law
Ezekiel-20:25-26I
also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts-
the sacrifice of eve
Bogus reply
[h=3]Sura Al-Nahl 16:28[/h]THIS IS BIBLE MISS!
On the Evil of Biblical Law!!
THAT IS YOUR BIBLE ! PATHETIC EVIL RELIGION!!
[h=3]Sura Al-Baqara 2:177[/h]THIS IS PATHETIC EVIL RELIGION!!
MaxShimba anauliza
najiuliza 'Haram' maana yake nini!!][/COLOR]
.kwa nini nielekeze macho yangu sehemu moja?[/COLOR][/INDENT]
1. HARAM ni ILE SHUGHULI YA PADRI KUOA MWANAMME MWENZAKE !! NA KANISA LIKA KAA KIMYA NA NYIE KUPIGA VIGEREGERE!
2.NA WEWE UNAPOINGIA KWENYE HIZO NYUMBA ZENU ZA IBADA BASI UNATAKIWA UELEKEZE MACHO YAKO KWENYE MAKALIO YAKO!
LA SIKU UKIJISAHAU! UNAWEZA SHTUKIA MUCHUNGWAJI ANAENDESHA FARASI NYUMA YAKO!!
wana laana wale!! Yaani ni SODOMI na TIGO ndio biashara kwenda mbele!!
Teh teh teh teh teh!
Halafu utasema mimi mbaya! Wakati vyombo vya habari dunia nzima vinasema hivyo!
Hizo zimekuwa nyumba za ibadaaa??
Au magereza ya KEKO na SEGEREA!!
Yaani sehemu kama hizo kweli ukizirai bahati mbaya si umeondolewa wewe!?!
Sura Al-Baqara 2:177
Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah ...
Yaani:
Haki (mbele za Mungu) haitokani na mtu kugeukia mashariki au magharibi. Mtu mwenye haki ni yule anayemwamini Allah ...
LAKINI QURAN HIYO HIYO INASEMA:
Sura Al-Baqara 2:144
Indeed, we see you look repetedly towards heaven. We will make you turn towards a qiblah that will please you. So turn your face towards the sacred Mosque (qiblah). Wherever you are, turn your faces to it.
Yaani:
Tumekuona unavyoelekeza macho yako mbinguni tena na tena. Tutawafanya muigeukie qiblah itakayowafurahisha. Hivyo, geuzeni nyuso zenu kuelekea msikiti mtakatifu [japo quran zingine zinasema towards al-Masjid al-Haram najiuliza 'Haram' maana yake nini!!]
Maswali:
1. Kama aliyesema aya hizi mbili ni yuleyule; na ni Mungu wa mbinguni, inakuwaje zinapingana?2. Kama zimetoka kwa Mungu wa mbinguni, si jambo la ajabu kuona kwamba hapendi watu waelekeze macho yake kule aliko badala yake waelekeze kwingineko?
3. Kama wewe tunayekuabudu uko juu, kwa nini hautaki tuelekeza macho yetu huko? Huu si mkanganyiko?
4. Na kama wewe ni Mungu uliye mahali KOTE, kwa nini nielekeze macho yangu sehemu moja?
Sura Al-Nisa 4:135
Believers, conduct yourselves with justice.
Yaani,
Enyi mlioamini, enendeni kwa njia ya haki.
Hapa Allah anazungumzia juu ya haki.
LAKINI ALLAH HUYO HUYO ANASEMA:
Sura Al-Nisa 4:129
In no way you can treat your wives in a just manner even though you may wish to do that...
Yaani:
Haiwezekani kamwe kwa ninyi kuwatendea haki wake zenu hata kama mngependa kufanya hivyo ...
Maswali:
1. Aya hizi zinafanana au zinapingana?2. Kama hazipingani ni kwa vipi?